The LIE has ended. WMDs was not a Lie.

[caserio1]

wtf does that mean?

[dont-blameme]

And the Japanese never attacked  Pearl Harbor and Nazi Germany didn't bomb England or try to take over all of Europe did they casshole!

[scott_free]

yeah, lying local, there was an unprovoked attack on our ships in international waters by the north Vietnamese.  was it trumped up and used as an excuse to get political and popular support for a huge escalation of the war started by Ike in 1956?  hell, yes.  but it did happen, and the support for the huge escalation was favored more by republicans than democrats in congress!!  and LISTEN, LIAR...the whole reason Hillary and Kerry and others voted for the resolution was to force Iraq to live up to the cease fire and TAKE AWAY ANY BUSH EXCUSE TO INVADE IRAQ, YOU IDIOT. AND IT WORKED!!!  A MONTH LATER BLIX WAS ALLOWED BACK IN WITH COMPLETE ACCESS AND BEGAN PROVING THERE WAS NO THREAT FROM IRAQ FROM ANY IMAGINARY WMDS...IT SHOULD HAVE WORKED, BUT BUSH WOULD NOT TAKE NO WMDS FOR AN ANSWER, ASSHOLE, AND INVADED ANYWAY ON LIES THEY DID EXIST.... goddamn.  how do you know so little about this and yet are so fucking willing to show your ignorance?

[dont-blameme]

That was the one you dodged right hoboyscott! Did you go to Canada or Prison hoboy?

[Local5th]

Truman was the first to support the Vietnam war short round.

[gwboolean]

Love all these stories and justifications, but the FACTS have been clear for over 13 years now.  The Bush administration lied to us and started, lost and left America with 2 wars.  We were all there and saw everything that occurred and it was clearly established what the Bush administration did.  Jim's attempt at rewriting history will have to wait until everyone is dead.
As for Hillary voting for the war, so the hell what?  She later stated that she had made a mistake in doing so.  So how does her vote somehow make a lie not a lie?

[Local5th]

the whole reason Hillary and Kerry and others voted for the resolution was to force Iraq to live up to the cease fire and TAKE AWAY ANY BUSH EXCUSE TO INVADE IRAQ, YOU IDIOT. AND IT WORKED!!!

Yup. It worked. Bush invaded and the Republicans could be blamed for their own mini "Vietnam" war.

[sweetwater5s9]

I posted it EVEN slower for you this time, hooty...


Former Sen. and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is the only candidate for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination who supported the invasion of Iraq.

If then-Sen. Clinton's desire was simply to push Saddam into complying with the inspection process, she wouldn't have voted against the substitute Levin amendment, which would have also granted President Bush authority to use force, but only if Iraq defied subsequent UN demands regarding the inspections process.

Clinton made clear that the United States should invade Iraq anyway.

Indeed, she asserted that even though Saddam was in full compliance with the UN Security Council, he nevertheless needed to resign as president, leave the country, and allow U.S. troops to occupy the country.

The president gave Saddam Hussein one last chance to avoid war, Clinton said in a statement, and the world hopes that Saddam Hussein will finally hear this ultimatum, understand the severity of those words, and act accordingly.

When Saddam refused to resign and the Bush administration launched the invasion, Clinton went on record calling for unequivocal support for Bush's firm leadership and decisive action as part of the ongoing Global War on Terrorism. She insisted that Iraq was somehow still in material breach of the relevant United Nations resolutions and, despite the fact that weapons inspectors had produced evidence to the contrary, claimed the invasion was necessary to neutralize Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

The Democrats controlled the Senate at the time of the war authorization.

As late as February 2007, Clinton herself refused to admit that her vote for the war resolution was a mistake.

The 2016 Democratic presidential campaign is coming down to a race between Hillary Clinton, who supported the Bush Doctrine and its call for invading countries that are no threat to us regardless of the consequences, and Bernie Sanders, who supported the broad consensus of Middle East scholars and others familiar with the region who recognized that such an invasion would be disastrous.




https://consortiumnews.com/2016/01/30/hillary-clintons-iraq-war-albatross/

[sweetwater5s9]

Former Sen. and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is the only candidate for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination who supported the invasion of Iraq.

If then-Sen. Clinton's desire was simply to push Saddam into complying with the inspection process, she wouldn't have voted against the substitute Levin amendment, which would have also granted President Bush authority to use force, but only if Iraq defied subsequent UN demands regarding the inspections process.

Clinton made clear that the United States should invade Iraq anyway.




https://consortiumnews.com/2016/01/30/hillary-clintons-iraq-war-albatross/

[scott_free]

your Levin amendment link did not work for me.  I have already proven Hillary never voted for the Iraq war.  period. because the resolution authorizing force did not even pertain to Iraq, and once the inspectors back in, it was moot anyway!!  how can you keep arguing about that dead horse, asshole?  and yeah, WHEN OUR TROOPS HAD ALREADY BEEN COMMITTED TO THE INVASION, WERE IN HARM'S WAY, WERE IN COMBAT, SHE SIGNED A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THEM...GOOD!!  EVERYBODY SHOULD SHUT UP AND CLOSE RANKS WHEN THE OUTCOME IS UNCERTAIN, OUR TROOPS HAVE BEEN COMMITTED, EVEN IF IT IS IN A LYING CAUSE.  there will be time to point out the lies and call for our troops to come home later after the fog of war has lifted and we have time to access the situation. 

[duke_john]

horseshit duddy is a fucking liar, but we knew that already.

"Hillary Clinton voted to authorize George W. Bush to go to war in Iraq. As a result of that war, tens of thousands of Americans and Iraqis died needlessly, trillions of dollars were added to the debt, and the Middle East was destabilized in a way that led to the rise of ISIS, the Syrian Civil War, and the European refugee crisis now threatening to unravel the European Union...."

More at

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/hillarys-pro-iraq-war-vot_b_9112232.html

[sweetwater5s9]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/01/war-opponents-dispute-cli_n_84485.html


War opponents say Sen. Hillary Clinton is misleading in her explanation about why she voted in 2003 against a bill that would have stalled America's invasion of Iraq.

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Clinton: Still Falsifying on Iraq War Vote

http://www.accuracy.org/release/clinton-still-falsifying-on-iraq-war-vote/

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Key Reasons to Vote against Hillary Clinton: War and Levin Amendment

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/02/28/465602/-Key-Reasons-to-Vote-against-Hillary-Clinton-War-and-Levin-Amendment