Everyone needs to know what their children are learning in school.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO4ntxy4dPY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO4ntxy4dPY)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGpDUTeNKoM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGpDUTeNKoM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAz-K3X2xVU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAz-K3X2xVU)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYoKGBYf_YQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYoKGBYf_YQ)

 

What they can learn on the web


http://www.archive.org/details/Michael_Badnarik

 I pick the web(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/smileys/YahooIM/6.gif) 

For those who still had any doubts about who this site is really by and for.

If you doubt what this site is really about let me clear it up for you, it is for Patriotic Americans who care about their country and family, that is why you won't find too many progressives on it.

all schools are different.  are you saying schools in texas teach the same stuff they teach in a more normal state?  or in any southern state so far behind the rest of the country because their education system is so dominated by brain dead christian fundamentalists?  why do you think the southern states lag so far behind other states in most educational statistics?

why do you post shit by Glenn "Tiny Tears" Beck?  He is an idiot.  Seriously, he is a conspiracy theory clown. He is even dumber and less informed than Rush Slimebaugh or Sarah Palin.  and what's with all that freaking crying?

Someone like you ho, who voted for Obama has no right to call anyone an idiot.

the country is doing much better.  you are just too ignorant to realize it.  look at the stock market today vs then.  look at the GDP today vs. then.  we are moving forward, and on course for a return to a clinton-like economy in another year or so.  nobody said fixing all the huge problems left by bush would be easy or take less than a year or two.....you just need to settle down, and try not to put too much pressure on that brain cell.

This country will do better with or without Obama, it is the American people that deserve all the credit, Obama is just a roadblock that gets in the way, but not for long, American ingenuity will bust through that roadblock.

are you sure this site isn't an arm of the Limbaugh Letter?

No actually it is the heart of the limbaugh letter, Obama needs the arms to get around all the problems he has created.

I would like one of you liberals to post one lie Beck has told......just one...?
 
This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone has it all figured
out.

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of
entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to
limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the
necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate
willing to have such a man for their president.

The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a
mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should
not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their
prince.

The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a
fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those
who made him their president."
 
So one of you liberals post that lie you say he tells or I submit you are the liars..

Admittedly I didn`t open the links because Beck makes me nauseous but I`ve certainly noticed how the conservatives like to substitute the word education with the word indoctrination. If these Khmer Rouger`s had their way they would round up all of the educators and scientists and do something terrible to them.

For you August West since you don't know the difference between indoctrination and Education. INDOCTRINATION- to instruct in a doctrine, principle, ideology, etc., esp. to imbue with a specific partisan or biased belief or point of view

This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone has it all figured
out.

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of
entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to
limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the
necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate
willing to have such a man for their president.

The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a
mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should
not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their
prince.

The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a
fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those
who made him their president."



Bullseye....(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/smileys/YahooIM/40.gif)

west proved he was indoctrinated and not educated.....he only spouts the party line like the borgs who feed it to him...
 
 
I'm still waiting for you liberals to post that lie Beck has been telling...
 
but it seems west doesn't watch Beck but he knows the man is a liar..typical liberal liar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWi182CMJY8

I didn't know that anything in our schools had changed since BO took over...The last Progressive in the WH pushed a Socialistic Educational Program run from DC by the Federal Govt called No Child Left Behind.

Sorry, I don't have time today to see all the videos... but I will mention something about our children...
 
they should be taught more about life.... after the reading, writing and math....comes life experiences... that would challenge the minds of most to persue what they really need...
 
but anyway I continue to pay taxes in order to keep those little ones in school during the day while the parents who have a job can work...and the little ones won't be running around getting into trouble like we know their minds takes them when over a long period of time it becomes idle....
 
 

No Child Left Behind.


 That was Ted Kennedy's Bill wasn't it????

 And wasn't it a Bipartisan effort????

 And it received accolades didn't it????


 What is your point???

Somebody hurry and fix wiki...they're blaming Bush for No Child Left Behind!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Child_Left_Behind_Act

I made my point in my original post...That it is a Progressive act and it runs our schools from DC.

I guess that is only wrong when dems do it.

What...It's not Progressive if a Republican does it?

Wiki is not accepted by colleges,,,, don't try and hand it off here!!!


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/bill-clinton-bl.html

 Not saying that Bush was not a progressive,,, he was.

This year, families are being served by various private-school-choice initiatives in 15 states and the District of Columbia. The parents of more than 190,000 school children are making use of scholarships and vouchers to send their children to private schools -- made possible by corporate and individual tax credits for tuition and for donations that fund scholarships.

In addition to private-school-choice options, millions of children are also taking advantage of other school-choice policies, such as public-school choice, charter schools, virtual education, and homeschooling. Despite the proliferation of school-choice options, nearly three-quarters of American children remain in government-assigned public schools, too many of which fail to provide a real education or even basic safety.

While many American families are now able to send their children to safer, better schools, Congress and state legislators should enact policies to ensure that every family has this opportunity.








As of August 2009,

Eight states -- Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Maine, Ohio, Utah, Vermont, Wisconsin -- and the District of Columbia provide taxpayer-funded scholarships that allow children to attend private elementary and secondary schools of their parents' choice;

Seven states--Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Indi­ana, Iowa, Pennsylvania, and Rhode Island--offer education tax credits to encourage busi­nesses and individuals to make donations to organizations that provide tuition scholarships to students to attend private school;

Four states--Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, and Min­nesota--offer tax deductions or credits for edu­cation-related expenses, including private-school tuition;
In all, 15 states and Washington, D.C., currently have policies that support private school choice;

Forty states and the District of Columbia have charter school laws, which allow for the creation of charter schools -- public schools that are free from many of the regulations imposed on traditional public schools, but are held accountable to the same achievement measures as their traditional counterparts. This allows charter schools to be more flexible -- and innovative -- than traditional public schools.


The Benefits of School Choice

A growing body of research on school choice has emerged, thanks to the proliferation of school-choice programs across the country. Researchers have studied the impact of school-choice policies on students, families, and school systems, and have found that such programs increase academic achievement, student safety, and parental involvement. In addition, school-choice policies have a positive impact on school systems by increasing efficiency through competition, and by saving taxpayer resources.




more @



http://www.heritage.org/Research/Education/bg2332.cfm

I didn't know Ted Kennedy signed that bill into law...


GWB introduced the bill. Signed it when Congress voted for it.

Not my fault that Bush teamed up with the likes of Ted Kennedy.

Nothing wrong with Wiki when used as a place to start a discussion...since when is ABC credible?

ABC is an acceptale source on campus?

So what other Bush action do you approve of,,, or was your post to prove how unsuccessful Progressive programs are???

 Joining Social Security and Medicare.

Republicans are just as Progressive as the Dems are if not more so and that they were the ones who first used this Idealogy at the Federal level.

This sudden rejection of Progressivism is a departure from what the GOP has strived for since TRoosvelts 'Square Deal'...

google beck lies, dumbass.  why do you need anybody to help you find something so freaking easy to find?  google it. or just admit beck is a delusional wimpy crybaby twit.  i dare you to prove he has said anything true.  and who gives a shit what some dope in the czech republic says?  we have enough dopes here in this country that don't have a clue about how much better obama is than bush, why import another dumbass to give his dumbshit opinion?

This sudden rejection of Progressivism is a departure from what the GOP has strived for since TRoosvelts 'Square Deal'...


 TA DA!!!!!!!  Even though not an answer to my question and a bit deflective. But I took note.

 Welcome to the Tea Party,,, Independent thinkers. FOUNDERS KEEPERS.

 With forum like this and shows like BECK showing the destructive history of the progressives like Hitler,,, and the mass audience now paying attention to the internet, It is easy to see the new disdain for the trash that pollute the WH and their supporters.

Lets see , one lie??  which to chose?


On the July 20 edition of his Fox News show, Glenn Beck falsely claimed that the government spent $1.4 million of economic stimulus funds "to repair a door" at Dyess Air Force Base, located near Abilene* (http://mediamatters.org/research/200907210005#correction), Texas, adding, "Wow, what happened to that door? That's a lot of repairing, you know. Can we buy a new one, and cheaper? I don't know what building 5112 is, but it better fly, drop bombs, or have 1.4 million doors." Introducing the segment, Beck stated: "Now, you can go right online and see how they're just peeing your money away." In fact, the repaired doors on Building 5112 were actually hangar doors, and they did not cost $1.4 million to repair.
Beck's claim that the government spent $1.4 million to "repair a door" echoes a headlinepostedon July 20 on the Drudge Report, which stated: "RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $1,444,100 FOR 'REPAIR DOOR BLDG 5112'... (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.recovery.gov%2F%3Fq%3Dcontent%2Fcontracts-recipient-summary%26id%3D57-FA466106D0006%26primeid%3D1400)"
In fact, under the "View all project descriptions (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.recovery.gov%2F%3Fq%3Dcontent%2Fcontracts-recipient-summary%26id%3D57-FA466106D0006%26mode%3Ddetails%26primeid%3D1400%23transactions)" link on the page to which the Drudge Report linked, Recovery.gov actually states that the government awarded AFCO Technologies nearly $1.2 million to replace gas mains on the base, and $246,100 to repair doors in Building 5112. A Department of Defense document (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.defenselink.mil%2FRECOVERY%2Fpdfs%2FTexas.pdf%23page%3D8) listing American Recovery and Reinvestment Act projects in Texas states that the doors that were repaired in Building 5112 are "hangar doors." Moreover, a May 5 press release (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dyess.af.mil%2Fnews%2Fstory.asp%3Fid%3D123147798) from the Dyess Air Force Base stated that the money awarded for the gas main project "may have saved eight jobs" and that the base could "now possibly hire two more employees."

Some organizations, including the Heritage Foundation, have criticized the bill. They argue that, "NCLB testing policies have inadvertently weakened state-level testing and academic transparency." Heritage supports returning more control with regards to education policy to the states. The group supports an alternative bill, the A-Plus Act, which was introduced by Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) and Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) during the 110th Congress with the goal of providing more flexibility to the states.

 What party did Theodore Roosevelt belong to? Republican In 1912 he
bolted the party and ran as a Progressive.

In the "Know Your Czars" segment of his August 26 radio show, GlennBeck singled out Office of Management and Budget director Peter Orszagas his latest example of an Obama administration "czar" -- officials hehas previously complained are "advising our president" but "don't gothrough a confirmation process" and "don't answer to the legislativebranch." However, Orszag, whom Beck called "our budget czar," "theproud Enron of czars" and said is "handy with a calculator," wasunanimously confirmed by the Senate in January.

the Heritage Foundation is a right wing bullshit "think" tank paid for by wealthy right wingers like the ones who paid off the Swift Boat Liars for Bush...who cares what they say?  why not just post what Carrot Top thinks?  he is imminently more qualified than anybody getting paid off by right wing loons.

GRIO,,, Beck is not the president or the topic of the post. And you have no links, STFU.

http://obamalies.net/

even bush says he can use the internets to use the googles.  and you are saying you are so hopelessly stupid you cannot, dabozo?  that is embarrassing to admit gomer bush can do something you can't do.  google it, dumbass.  it would take less time to list every truth beck has told than to list every lie. 

http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2010/02/president-obama-cuts-funding-for-successful-educational-programs/ (http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2010/02/president-obama-cuts-funding-for-successful-educational-programs/)
 President Obama Cuts Funding For Successful Educational Programs

The Bush Administration's original blueprint for NCLB included some valuable reform principles, such as reducing bureaucracy, promoting state flexibility, and expanding parental choice in education. How­ever, those valuable reform ideas were either watered down or eliminated during the legislative process on Capitol Hill in 2001. The bill that emerged from Congress greatly expanded federal power in education while doing little to eliminate bureaucracy, restore state and local control of edu­cation, or empower parents.


One of the four pillars of the White House's original No Child Left Behind proposal was to reduce bureau­cracy and increase flexibility: "Additional flexibility will be provided to states and school districts, and flexible funding will be increased at the local level."  The proposal called for a charter state option to allow states and districts with quality accountability systems to enter into performance agreements with the U.S. Secretary of Education. Under these agreements, states would be freed from categorical program requirements and could use funding on new state-directed initiatives.

However, this proposal to improve state-level autonomy and flexibility was not included in the No Child Left Behind Act that emerged from Congress.   

Similar versions of the A-PLUS Act in the Senate and House of Representa­tives would fundamentally reform the relationship between the states and the federal government in K–12 education. Both versions would restore state and local control in education while maintaining the focus on improving academic achievement by protecting state-level academic standards and testing.


A-PLUS would allow states to consolidate programs under the "performance agreement" or "declaration of intent." This would enable state leaders to identify and eliminate in­effective programs. Policymakers have already identified a number of ineffective or unnecessary education programs in the U.S. Department of Education. A-PLUS would give states the oppor­tunity to end these programs and redirect re­sources toward others that show greater promise.

Both versions of the A-PLUS Act would protect state-level testing, academic transpar­ency, and accountability to the public. As noted, the current No Child Left Behind testing require­ments have created a troublesome incentive for states to lower state standards to avoid federal sanctions. The A-PLUS Act would allow states to maintain state-level testing and information reporting to parents and the public. It also would ensure that states maintain transparency for results while allowing for greater state flexibility to design a testing system that serves local needs.

Giving states greater free­dom to control funding and establish education policies would foster an education reform envi­ronment that is conducive to innovation, experi­mentation, and improvement. Many of the most promising education reforms have been imple­mented at the state level and have spread across the country with innovative states leading the way. The proliferation of charter schools, school vouchers, and education tax credits is one exam­ple of the innovative education reform ideas that have spread through federalism. The develop­ment and proliferation of state standards and testing policies in the 1990s is another. Allowing states to exercise greater control over education funds and to establish policies could well facili­tate new improvements and innovations throughout the country

Both versions of the A-PLUS Act would change the course of federal education pol­icy, which since 1965 has followed a path of greater federal control of education, the proliferation of bureaucracy, higher administrative costs, and new federal programs.
Rather than continuing to expand the federal government's role in education, the A-PLUS Act would return authority to the state level by allowing states to opt out of No Child Left Behind. States and local policymakers would have greater ability to use federal education funds on local priorities. States could end ineffective or inefficient federal programs and target resources toward more pressing needs. Fewer resources would be consumed by adminis­trative costs and the level of bureaucracy needed to comply with existing federal rules and regulations. States, rather than the federal government, would direct state standards and assessments and maintain transparency for results through public reporting.

After more than four decades of unsuccessful federal intervention, it is time for Congress to con­sider a new approach. Returning greater authority to the states would empower parents, local school leaders, state policymakers, and governors to take responsibility for local schools and implement reforms to strengthen public education.

Dan Lips is Education Analyst in the Domestic Policy Studies Department

DaBoz...TR was our first Progressive President...read this...


http://www.policyalmanac.org/crime/archive/fbi.shtml

teddy was progressive before progressive was cool!!  he even tried to get universal health care passed...a true visionary, although he was a bit of a warmonger....

Why read it when I posted the same thing

A "Progressive movement" is difficult to define; it is more accurately thought of as an umbrella label, under which a variety of reform groups and liberally-minded individuals gathered. So any discussion of "Progressivism" should begin with the meaning of "Liberalism" at the beginning of the Twentieth Century.

Robert M. "Fightin' Bob" LaFollette (1855-1925)--Progressive Era political leader who served as US Congressman 1885-1891, governor of Wisconsin from 1900-1905 and U.S. Senator 1905-1925. In 1924 he ran as an independent Progressive candidate for President, polling nearly 6 million votes out of some 30 million cast, but won only Wisconsin's electoral votes.

The enthusiasm so characteristic of the Progressive Movement inspired a generation of reformers, who eventually began to transfer their domestic ideals of efficiency, morality, and positive government to a world view. As the US stepped onto the world stage in the early twentieth century, the influence of the domestic Progressive movement on foreign policy was very significant.



Definition of Liberalism:

Government should be more active
Social problems are susceptible to government legislation and action
Throw money at the problem




"Definition" of Progressivism:

Progressives themselves were never a unified group seeking a single objective or a single set of objectives. They had many different, even contradictory goals, including:
End to "white slavery" (prostitution and the sweat shops)
Prohibition
"Americanization" of immigrants
Immigration restriction legislation
Anti-trust legislation
Rate regulation of private utilities
Full government ownership of private utilities
Women's suffrage
End to child labor
Destruction of urban political machines
"Taylorism"
Political reform



Types of Progressive Reform


There were four basic types of Progressive reform, and each reform corresponded to a key word, repeated time and again in the rhetoric of Progressives:
Economic--"Monopoly"

Structural and Political--"Efficiency"

Social--"Democracy"

Moral--"Purity"


http://us.history.wisc.edu/hist102/textonly/lectur11/lectur11.html

interesting post, backwater...did you just add "throw money at the problem?"  the cut and paste seemed well-written and unbiased, except for that traditional complaint.  do you think it is honest to throw in your own comments inside another cut and paste that did not make that comment?

grio....maybe you could post the transcript where Beck actually said that about the door repair, somehow I don't believe it was said quiet that way...
 
and btw, since you had a hard time deciding which lie to post what about picking another one just for the record...
 
obumba has told more lies than can be posted here but you never call that trash a liar...why is that, can you spell hypocrite....that also is spelled...liberal

Hooty, the link is there and you will find your issue stated in verbatim by the education dept.

now it's your turn to post these so-called lies.  obama has made some inaccurate statements, usually quoting some other source, and if you want to call them lies, go for it.  but compared to beck?  not even close.  like I said, google beck lies....google obama lies....throw out 5 of the most obviously partisan hits, and read or at least scan the rest on the front page....it is clear to see beck lies like a rug.  obama lies only occasionally and only about rather mundane statistics and projections.   

You didn't post the same thing DaBoz...I didn't see it at least.

You said TR ran as a Progressive after he bolted...he didn't, he was a declared Progressive in 1892.  http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/life/bullmoose.htm



The GOP has ruled by the full force Federal Govts will and power since Lincoln. It was always the Dems who were for States Rights which is a Conservative position.

If America can't be discribed as a "Progressive Nation" what other words would best discribe it?


If we turn away from Progressivism what is it that we will turn too? What is the exact name of the Idealogy that would replace it ot is the opposite of Progressivism?


We all know we're not really Capitialists, Right?... I hope!

Progressive movements are NOT hard to define at all...unless you're STUPID and don't understand this Idealogy.


...where do you get this crap SW?

dems were for state's rights until FDR came along, anyway.  but especially when de-segregation started happening, thanks to democrats nationally, the southern states decided they would rather fight than switch.  and that is when the genesis of the southern takeover started for the GOP....they took the more conservative, more racist view that states should be able to decide for themselves to decide if black people were truly equal or not, just like they insist now that states should be able to decide if gays are entitled to equal rights or not.  like civil rights for blacks, and women, which most republicans today concede, if pressed, one day the GOP will concede that gay people have equal rights, too, under the law.  just like with all "progressive" ideas and programs, like social security, medicare, medicaid, civil rights, the GOP will eventually quit fighting progress and end up embracing it decades later, like even the Tea Baggers expressed with their goofy signs about "Keep Government Out of Medicare."  Eventually, republicans will be on board with universal health care and try to deny they ever fought it with all their heart....

http://us.history.wisc.edu/hist102/textonly/lectur11/lectur11.html

For Infun...

 
Inaccurate statements are what obammy says, not lies.  Really nice spin and deflect.  An who cares what Beck says he is an enterntainer, obammy is the resident of the white house.  Tell me, jimmiboi, is it an inaccurate statement, a mistake, or to use the non pc term a lie?

HD

The Dems are the Equality Police. They were Conservative on Equality and States Rights before they were Liberal on Equality and States Rights.

The GOP didn't take on states rights until the Conservative Dems jumped ship and all became republicans. Mid-60's to 73...those who stayed in the Dem party like George Wallace did became what is known as Reagan dems. Wallace and other Dem Govs didn't like it when IKE sent in federal troops to administer federal will over his state.

FDR was Liberal because he took Progressive ideas and expanded (Square Deal to New Deal) them while taking their Socially Conservative ideals like Prohibition and Liberalized them. Attacheing new law that the federal govt (FBI, ATF and so on) was in charge of dispensing justice.

So let's see.  Beck quoted another source and you called it a lie.  President Bush quoted other sources about Iraq and you call it lies.

But BHO supposedly quoted "other sources" and you call that "inaccurate statements".  BHO said that if we rushed and passed the Porkulus Bill, unemployment would not go over 8%.  A lie or an "inaccurate statement"?  BHO said abortion funding is not in the HealthScare bill.  A lie or an "inaccurate statement"?

Hack!

bush had 3 months of update, on the ground, expert information about wmds in iraq provided by blix and his team of experts AND STILL SAID HE KNEW BEYOND A DOUBT HUSSEIN POSSESSED SOME OF THE MOST DANGEROUS WEAPONS ON THE PLANET....that is a lie, moron.  he did not know that, as the post invasion inspections, along with the pre-invasion inspections clearly showed.  when you say you know something beyond a doubt, so much that you are wlling to start an unnecessary invasion and occupation over it, and you are proven wrong, that makes you not only a goddamn liar, but a freaking war criminal.  i said obama made some inaccurate statements, if you want to call them a lie, go for it.  call it what you want...compared to lying about why we have to invade another country, no big deal what you call it, dumbass.

It is in the interest of politicians, government functionaries, and those who plead for special favors from the state to make people think that freedom just doesn’t work. Their efforts at controlling and expropriating people are made far easier if the population is largely composed of people who are predisposed to think that government does a good job of identifying and solving problems; to think that they shouldn’t question, but just obey. For that reason, since time out of mind, governments have subjected the common people to a blizzard of misinformation calculated to make them servile. This mind-conditioning begins at an early age.

Those of us who know that freedom works and that government — always rooted in coercion — makes life worse for people when it departs from its proper functions of defending life, liberty, and property have a long, hard task ahead of us. We need to disabuse people of the idea that government is their friend and savior.

What bothered the colonists to the point of armed revolt were the mercantilist policies of the British government — policies that denied individuals their freedom to produce and trade as they wished.  Once the capitalist-inspired revolution had been won, the people established a government with limited powers.

The Founders wanted a strictly limited role for government because “they were aware of the mischief the state could perpetrate if property and contract rights were not reasonably secure.” But there were also men who wanted a powerful, mercantilistic government — men such as Alexander Hamilton — and they immediately went about subverting the Constitution’s small-government plan in order to have a state that could “get things done.”

Two of the key subjects are the Civil War and the Great Depression. Regarding the Civil War, the real cause of that terrible conflict was the mercantilistic tax and trade policies of the North, instituted to assist political entrepreneurs.   The high tariffs on imported goods were mainly paid by Southerners, and the revenues were then spent on wasteful subsidies and “internal improvement” projects in the North. Following the war, the mercantilist state reigned supreme and squandered vast amounts of wealth on railroad subsidies.

The Great Depression receives the most extensive treatment in the book.  Thomas J. DiLorenzo, professor of economics in the Sellinger School of Business and Management at Loyola College in Maryland, patiently refutes the prevalent myths that some vague “failure of capitalism” was the cause of the economic collapse, that President Hoover let matters go from bad to worse because he was a dogmatic believer in laissez faire, and that FDR’s New Deal policies managed to jump-start the economy and get the country out of the Depression. The historical falsehoods that cause so many to steer clear of capitalism and embrace Big Government fall like bowling pins in these pages.

At the end of the book, the author discusses one of the contemporary attacks on capitalism, namely that it is responsible for the various energy crises we have suffered over the last few decades. He demonstrates that the villain in those “crises” has always been government interference with the smooth functioning of the free market, not the market itself.

The title of the book’s concluding chapter sums everything up: “The Never-Ending War on Capitalism.” DiLorenzo points to numerous laws Congress has passed that whittle away at our freedom and impede capitalism, but that is just the most obvious front in the war. There is also the intellectual front, where he observes that universities have a strong bias against economic freedom — American college students are far more likely, for instance, to hear about how wonderful Canada’s universal health-care system is than they are to hear about the terrible costs of that system. And there is the legal front, where people now routinely sue companies for their own foolish misuse or overuse of products. In the war, capitalism has been in retreat.

Who ought to read How Capitalism Saved America? I strongly recommend the book, first, to all free-market advocates who want to sharpen their argumentative abilities. Where I’d most like to see the book read, however, is on college campuses. Every year, many schools have summer reading assignments for incoming freshmen and it is regrettable that the books chosen are often anti-capitalist screeds such as Fast Food Nation, by Eric Schlosser, or Nickel and Dimed, by Barbara Ehrenreich. I would be delighted to see DiLorenzo’s book chosen as the required summer book at campuses across the nation. It would spark endless debate and undoubtedly get a substantial number of students hooked on the study of freedom.

George C. Leef is the director of the Pope Center for Higher Education Policy

no, the real reason for the Civil War was slavery.  only idiots believe that revisionist history crap.  try googling the different southern states declarations of secession and read for yourself how they all blamed the north for trying to stop slavery and force the inhuman black race on their god-fearing white communities, or some such racist crap.  god, what revisionists these conservatives be.....

Absolute lie.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/feb/14/iraq.unitednations1 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/feb/14/iraq.unitednations1)

that source confirms what I said, dumbass.  can you read, much?

You did not even read it.

no, the real reason for the Civil War was slavery.


Hardly.  It wasn't even an issue for Lincoln with the South until 1862.   

It's still a Progressive educational system we have and the Republicans hold responsability for allowing the federal govt to rule our local schools from DC.

I expect this crap from dems...they are up front and straight forward about this stuff. They tellus whatthey are going to do with the power of the federal govt. It's not a big secret nor do they deny it.

The GOP keeps wavering from one Progressive issue to the next. 1st they are and then they're not.

It's not hard to determine what is Progresive no matter what SW posts in his C&P's...it's the Federal Govt sticking it's nose in the states biz and our personal lives running everything from DC.

Abortion and marriage are Progressive issues and both sides want a progressive solution at the Federal level.

No one in any Party wants a Capitalistic solution talked about. Not even Ron Paul!

yeah, i read it.  he confirmed what i wrote, liar.  and yes, backwater, the civil war was primarily about slavery.  read something, like the Articles of Secession from each freaking traitorous rebel state....for instance.  my god.  you guys will believe anything...


and for little tommy, from hans blix in 2004-

Asked whether President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair had misled the public, Blix noted that he'd never accused Bush or Blair of acting in "bad faith" but said he believed they were too inclined "to buy evidence that was not strong."
When asked whether he believed the attack had broken international law, he said, "Yes, I cannot see a legal case under international law."

The 75-year-old Blix, an international lawyer from Sweden who formerly headed the International Atomic Energy Agency, was in charge of the resurrected U.N. inspection effort in Iraq for 3 1/2 months in 2003 until it was aborted by the U.S.-led attack. He agreed with the nations on the Security Council that more time should have been given to inspections.

At the same time, Blix also believes Saddam Hussein would not have accepted inspections without the prewar military buildup and the Congressional Resolution that authorized force if he did not allow the inspectors back in, he told CNN producer Christiane Amanpour in an interview Wednesday watched by a sold-out audience of 2,000 at UC Berkeley's Zellerbach Hall. His appearance was part of a three- day UC Berkeley conference on how the American press covered the war and the rationale for the invasion.

His newly released memoir, "Disarming Iraq," faults a monumental failure of intelligence and a distortion of inspection findings by the U.S. and British leadership. He says the pre-emptive strike against Iraq by Bush without the Security Council's approval damaged the credibility of the nations that launched the attack and diminished U.N. authority.

You guys are all off center on the history of the CW...IMO


It's the politics of it that needs to be examined...it wasn't fought to free slaves.

Warrenpees, if you are that bothered by what happens on this site, why are you here?

no, it was fought because the south wanted to maintain slavery, and they knew the prevailing opinion of the non-slave states was gathering momentum and it was just a matter of time before slavery would be found illegal, like it had in all the rest of the civilized world by that time.  get it?  once again, we were lagging behind the rest of the modern world in accepting something so easy to understand- slavery is wrong, always.  no exceptions.   

Where is joys board ?

google runboards.  go there, then look for polymath.  polymath on runboard is joy's board.  almost the opposite of here.  more liberals, less conservatives, more middle of the roaders.

The Civil War was fought over the Constitutionality of Succession...The Dems felt they could just scab out of our Union and Lincoln said no and forced them to stay in the union with the full force of the federal govt behind him.

Hooty, Infun:

Feel free to post about the hypocrisy of the Union fighting a war to free the slaves while they did not free their own slaves.

Let's not forget that the United States Congress passed the Corwin amendment to preserve slavery in March 1861.  And did so without any votes from the seven seceded states.  In Abraham Lincoln's inaugural address he wanted the measure to be made "express and irrevocable."

that is not the reason the south seceded, it is a reason why the north fought to keep them in the Union.   

the civil war would not have started if the south had not seceded...right?  the main reason for the south seceding was slavery, or the end of it, because the north, and even some reasonable people in the south, were beginning to adopt the popular world view, that slavery was morally wrong and should be abolished.  or, at the very least, not allowed to spread to other incoming states.....

Lets also not forget that in his 1860 inaugural address, Lincoln  said: "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."

Sorta makes Lincoln a liar doesn't it?   He had no intention of personally freeing the slaves in 1860. Nowhere can any historian find that Lincoln had a secret mission to free all the slaves in 1860. Nowhere. The republican party held anti-slavery as part of the platform, so that party had intended to politically fight institutional slavery. But that had nothing to do with the Emancipation Proclamation in 1862-63.


Wars are always about domininion, power, and wealth...never about 'slavery' or any other moral issue.

SW...I don't have a problem not putting spin on the facts of our history.

you are missing the point...the south started the war!!  they seceded...it doesn't matter what lincoln said or didn't say, he didn't start the war.  why did they secede?  primarily, first and foremost, because of slavery.

HD...


http://www.factasy.com/civil_war/2008/02/25/was_war_fought_over_slavery

I find it ironic that a thread about education has turned to this...lol

Daboz, first I'm am truly sorry you have no idea how fsearch ofr anything on your own, but I will help.  second, the FREE SPEECH you seem to think is under attack, is indeed under attack, by YOU!  I have every right to my opinion as you do and while we don't have to agree, I respect you right to say and believe as you wish. Maybe you need to stop telling others who disagree with YOU to STFU!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RNkDTOjOb0&feature=related

have you read my posts?  the south started the war, not the north.  i have already said the north decided that the south did not have the right to secede from the Union.  especially since the south started the actual conflict by the raid at fort sumter. so to know the reason for the war, you have to know the reason why the south seceded, which caused the war, okay?  and the south seceded primarily because they felt the institution of slavery was being threatened....read the secessionist articles from the traitor states and it couldn't be more clear what their reason was....

Here ya go luke:

                     
On the July 20 edition of his Fox News show, Glenn Beck falsely claimed that the government spent $1.4 million of economic stimulus funds "to repair a door" at Dyess Air Force Base, located near Abilene* (http://mediamatters.org/research/200907210005#correction), Texas, adding, "Wow, what happened to that door? That's a lot of repairing, you know. Can we buy a new one, and cheaper? I don't know what building 5112 is, but it better fly, drop bombs, or have 1.4 million doors." Introducing the segment, Beck stated: "Now, you can go right online and see how they're just peeing your money away." In fact, the repaired doors on Building 5112 were actually hangar doors, and they did not cost $1.4 million to repair.
Beck's claim that the government spent $1.4 million to "repair a door" echoes a headline posted (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drudgereportarchives.com%2Fdata%2F2009%2F07%2F20%2F20090720_183122.htm) on July 20 on the Drudge Report, which stated: "RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $1,444,100 FOR 'REPAIR DOOR BLDG 5112'... (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.recovery.gov%2F%3Fq%3Dcontent%2Fcontracts-recipient-summary%26id%3D57-FA466106D0006%26primeid%3D1400)"
In fact, under the "View all project descriptions (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.recovery.gov%2F%3Fq%3Dcontent%2Fcontracts-recipient-summary%26id%3D57-FA466106D0006%26mode%3Ddetails%26primeid%3D1400%23transactions)" link on the page to which the Drudge Report linked, Recovery.gov actually states that the government awarded AFCO Technologies nearly $1.2 million to replace gas mains on the base, and $246,100 to repair doors in Building 5112. A Department of Defense document (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.defenselink.mil%2FRECOVERY%2Fpdfs%2FTexas.pdf%23page%3D8) listing American Recovery and Reinvestment Act projects in Texas states that the doors that were repaired in Building 5112 are "hangar doors." Moreover, a May 5 press release (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dyess.af.mil%2Fnews%2Fstory.asp%3Fid%3D123147798) from the Dyess Air Force Base stated that the money awarded for the gas main project "may have saved eight jobs" and that the base could "now possibly hire two more employees."
During the segment, Beck -- again echoing the Drudge Report -- also stated that the government "spent $1.1 million on 2-pound frozen ham," and "more than $1.5 million ... for some mozzarella cheese." However, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack issued a statement (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usda.gov%2Fwps%2Fportal%2F%2521ut%2Fp%2F_s.7_0_A%2F7_0_1OB%3Fcontentidonly%3Dtrue%26contentid%3D2009%2F07%2F0322.xml) on July 20 stating that the "references to '2 pound frozen ham sliced' are to the sizes of the packaging. Press reports suggesting that the Recovery Act spent $1.191 million to buy '2 pounds of ham' are wrong." Vilsack added: "In fact, the contract in question purchased 760,000 pounds of ham for $1.191 million, at a cost of approximately $1.50 per pound."
Vilsack also stated that "the U.S. Department of Agriculture has made $100 million available to the states for The Emergency Food Assistance Program (TEFAP), which acquires food that is distributed to local organizations that assist the needy -- including food banks, food pantries, and soup kitchens."
From the July 20 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:
 


And in San Antonio, Texas, Dyess Air Force Base -- $1.4 million to repair a door at Building 5112. Wow, what happened to that door? That's a lot of repairing, you know. Can we buy a new one, and cheaper? I don't know what building 5112 is, but it better fly, drop bombs, or have 1.4 million doors.
But, maybe it's OK. Maybe we can go ahead and spend all this money, you know, on ham and cheese sandwiches. According to the -- by the way, does anybody know why we're spending all that money on the ham? Are we trying to reassemble a pig? I'm not sure what the Department of Agriculture would need all of that ham for, but maybe it's another luau at the White House.
                   

HD...

Don't read what the south was saying read what the republicans were saying...they wanted to do away with the Plantation Styled System of business...it was sucking money out of the rest of the country.

Republicanism is about business not people.

THis is how Ho always does things.

Lincoln was all about deport blacks and achieving a white America with his colonization plan according to many black scholars and even Malcom X.

Even the editor at Ebony magazine - Lerone Bennett, who in the 1960s produced three pioneering and important works of African-American history, details Lincoln's altruism in Forced Into Glory: Abraham Lincoln's White Dream.

That may have influenced Lincoln but it was the economic factor that drove Lincoln to invade the South.

the south would never have seceded without slavery as the primary motivation and cause de guerre.  the north would never have attacked the south just to stop some sort of plantation style of business, whatever that means.  slavery was the main cause for the civil war.  period.

For Luke, just one more lie you asked for,  then I am outside to finish yard work.  Ya'll have fun!

1/22/09 Glenn Beck lies about Obama’s swearing in by saying, “Ichecked. We have never had a president sworn into office without aBible.” The problem here is in 1901 Teddy Roosevelt did not use abible, Lyndon Johnson used a Catholic missal aboard Air Force One afterKennedy’s assassination, and John Quincy Adams used a constitutionallaw book instead of the bible. In fact, reading up on the history ofthe Presidential oath reveals Beck a liar. First clip is Beck’s rantand the second link is on the history of the oath.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/22/glen… (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/22/glenn-beck-bible/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_off… (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_office_of_the_President_of_the_United_States)

lincoln did not START THE WAR, GOOFUS.  he tried mightily to avert it. 

griob...what was the year Glenn Beck "supposely said that"

Not sure I believe it yet much less the source...

Was Bush still the president..?   LOL

Nothing he has said About obumba was a lie, who cares about the doors, the lies were said to be about obumba who is a blatant liar...

OK HD...whatever you say.

The ho said...yeah, i read it.  he confirmed what i wrote, liar.  and yes, backwater, the civil war was primarily about slavery.  read something, like the Articles of Secession from each freaking traitorous rebel state....for instance.  my god.  you guys will believe anything...


Only 6% of the South owned slaves ho, what were the other 94% fighting for...?
The north was more of a slave owning place than the Confederacy, again you lie..

Long live the union occupied Confederate States of America and Jefferson Davis God rest his soul..

why do you post shit by Glenn "Tiny Tears" Beck?
 
 
Because he's changed, his focus has changed, his demeanor has changed, his goal has changed, his tone has changed.  He is no longer a (D) or (R), he's pissed at both, he blames both equally, this is why cpac was upset with him, and beside, are you kidding me,  when was the last time you've had this great of a content to bicker ratio?
 
 BTW: Watch the first one: "Is it worth saving."   
 
 
 
 
 

I admit he does sometime criticize repubs and conservatives.  but that is all he ever does- criticize.  he is a certifiable loon.  his weird conspiracy theories, especially concerning obama, show how delusional he is.  calling obama a racist shows how out of touch with reality he is.  his confusing socialism with communism all the time shows how ignorant he is.  and he cries too much.  put it all together and you have a smug, egocentric, crybaby dumbass. 

Beck is now a Populist.

I find it ironic that a thread about education has turned to this...lol



Education is sorely needed about Abe...

Lincoln's main interest was not in opposing slavery but in advancing mercantilism, inflationism, and government spending: the "American system" of Henry Clay.

The high tariff pushed by Northern industries, at the expense of Southern agriculture, was the main cause of the sectional conflict. Further, Lincoln's goal in preventing Southern secession was the consolidation of federal power and the collection of revenue, not the elimination of slavery.

Lincoln as an Illinois legislator, Congressman, and political leader before the Civil War opposed the abolitionists, supported enforcement of the fugitive slave law, favored colonizing blacks outside the United States, and explicitly endorsed the state's laws barring blacks from voting, serving on juries, holding office, and intermarrying with whites.

As president, Lincoln initially allowed the border states – slave states that remained within the Union – to dictate his policy toward slavery, and refused to free and arm the slaves.   

Abolitionists like Wendell Phillips and Radical Republicans in Congress in 1862, pushed through the Second Confiscation Act, freeing slaves of owners who supported the Confederacy.

The Emancipation Proclamation, Bennett did not free a single slave, since it applied only to areas outside Union control.

Black Laws of pre-Civil War Illinois, land of Lincoln, not only denied blacks basic civil and political rights, but required any black entering the state to post a bond of $1,000.

Previous scholars downplay or ignore Lincoln's commitment to colonizing blacks outside the country, a position he inherited from his political hero, Henry Clay, and advocated publicly for almost his entire political career. This was no passing fancy – Lincoln mentioned the idea in numerous prewar speeches, two state of the Union addresses, several cabinet meetings, and in a notorious meeting with black leaders at the White House.

Lincoln was hardly the era's only colonizationist – virtually every major political leader of the early republic, including Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Andrew Jackson, and John Marshall, supported the idea.

Thus, writers on the Civil War era are almost certain to quote Lincoln's allusion to the “monstrous injustice” of slavery in his Peoria speech of 1854, but not the passage in the same speech asserting that he would prefer to send the slaves, once freed, “to Liberia – to their own native land” (a term he used even though some blacks' ancestors had been in North America longer than Lincoln's). They cite his message to Congress of December 1862 with its eloquent passage about the “fiery trial” through which the nation was passing, but rarely note that in the same speech, Lincoln not only affirmed, “I strongly support colonization,” but for the first time used the ominous word “deportation.”


How many school children have and will miss this education?

a crazed populist.  he doesn't know anything.  he just makes stuff up out of thin air.  he can't even spell OLIGARCHY.  it is like watching Carrot Top, and believing he has a clue about anything.  he is a dumbass.   

are you sure this site isn't an arm of the Limbaugh Letter?
 
 
That's almost funny Sadie. Do you not know how to use the option of posting your own video? The only difference is, as owner, I get the option of making the post stick on top.
 
You have your own board (as I understand it). I'm sure you have privileges others don't as well. Am I right?
 
It's 99% freedom of speech here. Try giving that at your board or at joys.
 
 

that is bullshit, backwater.  lincoln did not want the civil war, it was forced upon him by the secession of the traitorous southern states.  and all this colonization, mercantilism bullshit.  my god, what revisionism. 

i am almost 100% positive that sadie is not the same sadie as on joy's board....

Damn, sorry, I didn't mean to ruin a thread.

No Hooty they come from Lincoln's own speeches and writings.

Because he's changed, his focus has changed, his demeanor has changed, his goal has changed, his tone has changed.  He is no longer a (D) or (R), he's pissed at both, he blames both equally, this is why cpac was upset with him, and beside, are you kidding me,  when was the last time you've had this great of a content to bicker ratio?

BTW: Watch the first one: "Is it worth saving."



So are our children and our Country! Many parents have pulled their kids out of the public school system if they can afford to do so, or have added a 2nd job to be able to do so. charter schools have also come on the horizon, why do you think home schooling became such a big not only commitment but many chose that over sending there children to the public school?

The school system that was to educate has turn to indoctrinate and because we paid little to no attention to what was going (on other than the parents that actually would sit and work with their kids at home on homework or attend student conferences)...we have many young people that have been indoctrinated and their idea is what is Uncle Sam going to do for me today.

a crazed populist.  he doesn't know anything.  he just makes stuff up out of thin air

You could say the samething about that black in the WH...

The South used the constitution to succeed from the union, how is that traitorous..?

Beck has no control over any government function, but peope a lot worse, as you say, than him do, and that is the problem you liberals fail to see...you ones wearing the obumba blinders and the ones with your head up his ass are the worst enemy America has..

where does it say that states can secede? 

that black in the white house?  what does his color have to do with it? racist much, dickhead?  you racist pigs are the threats to this country, you ignorant clown. 

Yeah, that black in the WH, what's racist about that, isn't obumba a black...?  Now I guess you're going to say he isn't black...maybe  in your world he's just a colored..
 
btw, I knew you didn't have a clue about the Constitution, you liberals hate it..

if states can secede, can counties secede from states if they don't like a state law?  can cities secede from counties if they don't like a county law? can individuals secede from cities if they don't like a city law?  where does it stop, moron?  and what about the normal people in those racist states that wanted to remain in the union?  what about their rights to be an american first?  you seriously do not know what the hell you are talking about....

why describe him by his skin color, dickhead, if that is not what you judge him by, you ignorant asshole?

I judge him by his ability ho daddy, of which he has none.

the country is much better off than when he took office...if only bush could say the country was better off than when he took office from clinton.  when obama starts a war on lies, tortures prisoners and authorizes warrantless wiretaps, then you got something to bitch about, airhead.  until then, not so much.

if states can secede

They could volutarialy from the time of Washingtn to Lincoln who destroyed the founder's voluntary confederation of states to the Union.

I wouldn't call almost 20% unemployment, failed policies, dropping in the polls faster than any President in history, the very real likely hood of losing both Houses of Congress, etc, much to brag about ho daddy. Chairman Obama has only made things worse.

Actually Obama is as bad if not worse than the white Jimmy Carter. Carter was an embarrassment to most Americans regardless of their color....Obama is also.

ho diddy spewed, again........why describe him by his skin color, dickhead, if that is not what you judge him by, you ignorant asshole?
 
If I didn't know his skin color I would have still said he acted like one...you filthy mouth worm
 
 

Hooty,

Although the new Constitution made major changes to the Articles of Confederation, some provisions were simply reworded. Article II of the original document specified that states have all the rights and sovereignty that are not expressly forbidden by the Articles of Confederation. This is basically the same language that is used in Amendment X which clarifies earlier Constitutional references to state sovereignty. None of the language in either the Articles of Confederation or the Constitution forbids states to secede.

Notice that Ho (may I call you Ho?) is always the only one that knows everything and EVERYONE else is just an ignorant $%^@

Thus the need to stop indoctrinating our children in schools as many end up like Hooty.

Boy are you right on that sweet!

yeah but...I'm still not aware of anything that BO has done to GWB's No Child Left Behind act.

Isn't the Progressive Educational System we have now is the one that GWB built...

I was a product of indoctrination also but have researched for what was not taught.  I am happy I have done so on a variety of issues since my youth...   (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/cool.gif)

Thank God for Glenn Beck, he's starting to shed some light on the darkness of our liberal indoctrination schools.. what a mess the schools are after the loons of liberalism took over and thanks to that ignorant butthole jima carter for starting a federal school board of more loons and criminals who steal the education system blind...

In New Orleans 2 million dollars a year was unaccounted for every year until they found the administrators were stealing it through payroll checks..I'm sure this is going on in every major city in America..

This incompetence and stealing started long before Bush...about the 60's I would say..

Isn't the Progressive Educational System we have now is the one that GWB built...

I thought so also. The foundation to our education system however was corrupted decades ago and I have no idea where that started or who initiated the changes, but it seemed to go down hill after the courts ruled no prayer in schools so that goes back to Madalyn Murray O'Hara. Interesting how she and her family (save for one son that converted to Christianity) died. Most people are not murdered, that is all my thoughts are on her after years in the spot light.

When God is kicked out, Satan takes his place, and that's who the liberals have invited into their lives..

Isn't the Progressive Educational System we have now is the one that GWB built...


No, that was LBJ's biggest F'up of all time...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_education

This is the man who started it...not LBJ


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Wayland_Parker

We know exactly what our son is taught. He is home schooled.

You can't blame everything on Bush, he was only one man...but you can lay the blame for our  poor education system at the feet of the atheist liberal, the aclu demons and the one parent homes..

This is the man who started it...not LBJ

LBJ was part of modern progressivism and like moder liberals you cannot equate them to the past.   It would be the same as comparing classical liberalism with todays liberals.

Being one who partakes of the kool-aid isn't cool, Luke. Even if you're recipe calls for part measure of holy water.

and with such authority! You are just too smart for me!  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/smileys/YahooIM/24.gif)

Being one who partakes of the kool-aid isn't cool, Luke. Even if you're recipe calls for part measure of holy water.
 
 
My ebonics translater is broken, mind interpreting this...
 
Before you do though, let me ask a question...do you believe our education system is great, good, poor or gone to hell in a handbasket...?

I think our education system is good. The problem is our teachers are inundated with problem children from right wing inbred(especially in the southern states) element of society who lack the mental capacity to keep up with normal kids. This is like throwing sand into a finely tuned engine. Just brings thing to a grinding halt and makes the system look bad.

Infun,

Perhaps you would like to clarify the difference between classical liberalism and modern liberals as well as paleo-progressives and the moder progressive movement?  With authority of course...  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/smiley.gif)

If you cannot, I understand....

Nailed it...  Southerners forced blacks to mate to produce large specimens without regard to relationship. Southerners, I guess it just come natural for them.

When you start answering my questions I'll answer yours...deal?


BTW....I do know the answer to this! (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/smileys/YahooIM/11.gif)

One of the big flops in our school system was that somewhere along the line someone decided that children had to feel good about themselves and failure was not an option. No one worked on the wrong answers instead they dwelled on the answers that were correct...thus no one learned a thing! Poor Johnny and Suzie came from disadvantaged homes and the added pressure to preform in school was just too much. When these kids really screwed up it the 'system" that they came out of that failed them not the kids themselves. Unless our children are taught right from wrong and that failure is also an opportunity to learn and grow and get the correct answers in life they ain'ta gonna make it!
 
A level of excellence must be set and for all to attempt to reach it...only a few will actually achieve that, but many will find themselves doing better in life and living if there is a goal to reach.

Infun,

Since you cannot, I understand....

(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/cool.gif)

The notion of equality in our schools is ridiculous...everyone shouldn't have to learn all the same things.

Those with both kinds of special needs have to be handled differently than the hoi polli.

So I can safely assume by another dodge you don't want to answer my question about my question...lol

The problem with the schools is and has been that they teach WHAT to learn instead of HOW to learn. and that's what the Progressives want.  And while I went to school in the 60's, I went to small country schools where they still taught you how to learn.

People like the cornfed inbred wehungdung just wants to degrade the South but it is the liberals in the South who are the stupid people in our schools and drag down everyone else...these cornfed inbred people like him have been fed the rainbow stew and drank the kool-aid so long they are clueless to say the least...

I see several Liberals are mocking test scores in the southern -Christian conservitive states - The reason is ovious to those who actually check out why this is --!

ITS BECAUSE  THE VAST MAJORITY OF BLACKS IN AMERICA LIVE IN THE POOR TEST STATES!!!!

Check this map-It shows where the black live in the USA and you can plainly see the states where most live --Misisippi has the most and as a result has the worst test score in The USA.

It sounds like Hodaddy is up to his old schite again even though I have wacked him up side the head several times with theis fact....



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hoo, I don't know where you got the eronious idea that the northern schools are better.  Look at Gore and obama.  Such stupid grads from northern schools.  Keep lying to yourself.  You deserve it.

Now settle down Luke. You semi-illiterate southern hillbillys have contributed to society. you know it was southern rednecks that invented the toothbrush. Anyone else would have called it the teethbrush.

Why did africans sell there own people?

Why are most ignorant of these ongoing truths?




West Africa slavery still widespread - BBC


Human rights organisations say more than 40,000 people are still in slavery in Niger alone.

Most live in conditions little changed over centuries, forced to look after animals or domestic work such as cooking and cleaning without pay.

Born into an established slave caste, they inherit a status from their mothers that it is almost impossible to shake off.

Romana Cacchioli, Africa Programme Coordinator for Anti-Slavery International, says this form of slavery began centuries ago.


Hadijatou Mani was sold by her Berber, Tuareg family to a master from the Hausa community.

She says he bought her for the equivalent of about $500 (£315).

"My master has four wives. We, the slaves, were doing all the housework like cooking, fetching water and firewood and working on farms," she told the BBC.

"I was beaten so many times I would run to my family. Then, after a day or two, I would be brought back."

Ilguilas Weila, head of the local human rights group Timidria said his group had estimated that in 2002 about 8% of the population in six of Niger's eight regions were living in slavery.

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http://www.pbs.org/wonders/Episodes/Epi3/slave_2.htm