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Title: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own actions.
Post by: Jim on 01 06, 11, 12:41:55:AM
 
Why was the governor of Punjab, Pakistan assassinated?
This 2 1/2 minute audio explains why.
   
http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Audio/PrimitiveMuslims.htm (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Audio/PrimitiveMuslims.htm)

The rest:
http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Audio/PrimitiveMuslims2.htm (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Audio/PrimitiveMuslims2.htm)

   

   
Sorry, but unless Muslims currently living in America are several generations removed from old world teachings I firmly believe they will all fall back into their "native" instincts, just as a supposedly tamed lion or cougar will ultimately revert back to old instincts without warning unless they too are far far removed (generations) from old habitats.   

I don't like feeling this way about other humans, but it will take an awful lot to convince me otherwise.
   
   


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: Jtopp on 01 06, 11, 12:59:36:AM
Too many Muslims are too afraid of their own "cultist fanatics" If they speak out they are killed, their families are killed the women raped and in general abused. These fanatics blow themselves up anywhere with no regard to innocent children or anyone. People must understand that if a person holds no value in their LIVES....and are willing to KILL THEMSELVES...then they will kill anyone and everyone. They are the most dangerous of all humans that walk the earth, wild animals behave better than the human animal that carry no value of their own lives...thus no value to others.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: takncarabizniz on 01 06, 11, 03:01:21:AM
Assimilate or die...
 
 


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: D2D on 01 06, 11, 03:56:25:AM
Islamofascism must be fought where ever it rears its ugly head!


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 01 06, 11, 07:07:50:AM
you know, during D-Day, thousands upon thousands of American soldiers being transported from the ships to the shore knew they were about to die.  They knew that the Germans had entrenched machine gun nests, they knew the beach was mined and they knew that barbed wire was laid out to slow them down and make it easier for them to get picked off before they could make cover.....does that make them sub-human, unfeeling zombies who did not know right from wrong?  god, listen to yourselves.  the same kind of de-humanification that we did to nazis and the japanese in world war 2, and who were obviously more of a threat and actually way more barbaric than the 50,000 muslims today who actually support al qaeda out of about a billion and a half muslims worldwide.  do you think all germans and japanese are actually savages and will revert to their genocidal practices if we allow them among us or even allow them to live in their own countries?  don't look now but your bigotry and prejudice is showing...big time....


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: August West on 01 06, 11, 07:24:34:AM
A crazed Zionist killed his own president years ago for trying to make peace.                                                                                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Yitzhak_Rabin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Yitzhak_Rabin)   


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 01 06, 11, 07:33:45:AM
remember the Crusades?  remember that crazed religious zealot that shot and killed an unarmed doctor in his church while his wife sang in the church choir?  remember the crazy ass Articles of Secession that the dumbfuck racist southern traitor states wrote about why they had to commit treason against the United States and the Constitution and how much of it was based on their religious beliefs and reading of the Bible that made them claim living among blacks was sinful and they had to be slaves or God would be pissed off?  what a bunch of bigoted hateful people inhabit this board, especially when it comes to muslims, to blacks, to gays, and to foreigners in general. 


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: Baretta19 on 01 06, 11, 07:51:35:AM
way more barbaric than the 50,000 muslims today who actually support al qaeda out of about a billion and a half muslims worldwide
 
 
Care to site your source, I have heard everything from .5% to 40%, you seem to have a source that has been able to determine how many terrorist we face


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: mudslinger on 01 06, 11, 07:52:11:AM
I have been preaching against Muslims and their religious beliefs for years , I can remember when people on these boards were afraid to even say the word Muslim. It is an evil religion and there are hundreds of Millions of potential terrorists that believe in this religion which in my opinion is not a religion at all but a political Ideology. Religion has been used as an excuse to justify injustice for centuries.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 01 06, 11, 08:03:28:AM
One of the greatest tragedies is what Islam and Muslims have done and do to the peoples of Africa.

Jihads that were obvious attempts at eradication of Christians, Hindus, and Jews have been recorded since the early days of Islam.  The Qur'an calls repeatedly for jihad, or holy war, against unbelievers, calling Jews and Christians apes and pigs.


Muslims, including clerics and leaders have used Islamic ideas, concepts, texts, and themes to justify violence, especially against non-Muslims.

Most of the religious justification of violence against nonbelievers (Dar ul Kufr) by the promoters of jihad is based on the Quranic “sword verses.”

Muslim societies have also been prone to fighting wars amongst themselves starting with the first generation of Muslims, including civil war between followers of a faction who included Muhammad's wife Aisha bint Abu Bakr, and followers of an opposing faction led by Muhammad's cousin Ali ibn Abi Talib, known as the battle of Bassorah. Differences between Muslims also resulted in the murder of three of the first four Caliphs at the hands of other Muslims.

Violence by Muslims is not limited to non-Muslims. According to Islamic scholar Khaleel Mohammed, throughout the world, Muslim intellectuals are punished for criticizing various aspects of traditional and contemporary Islam, citing the case of Muhammad Said al-Ashmawy, who is being held in Egypt under house arrest for his own protection; Abdel Karim Soroush who was beaten in Iran for raising the voice of inquiry, and Mahmoud Tahawho was killed in Sudan.

Rifat Hassan, Fatima Mernissi, Abdallah an-Na'im, Mohammed Arkoun, and Amina Wadud were all vilified by the imams for asking Muslims to use their intellect.


Despite some tolerance in the early days every so often when the Muslim population felt that the Jews are too comfortable and have some power, a massacre has been unleashed. Many times, under Muslim rule, they were not even allowed a life of inferior status.  Christians suffered similarly but at least they had the opportunity of finding help in Christian lands.

Khaybar Massacre 628, in Saudi Arabia of the Qurayza Jews, the term, the idea of 'Khaybar' has been used by Muslims when calling to kill, to annihilate Jews(genocide.)

Some of the known forced conversions of Jews to Islam were in Fez Morocco: in 1165, 1275, 1465, and 1790-92.  The Fez massacre of 1033, The Fez 1146 massacre reaching 100,000 and inMarrakesch120,000, the 1576 and 1577 deportations of Safed Jews to Cyprus, the 1660 massacre of those Jews still settled in Safed.

Islamic calls include: "Rise up and kill the Jews; they are indeed The bitterest enemies who reject Muhammad. Rise up and kill the Jews, as they were killed at Khaybar beneath the sword of Muhammad. Rise up and kill the Jews and all of those Who fight for them."


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 01 06, 11, 08:05:38:AM
looks like i was wrong...not 50,000 active supporters...5,000...here ya go.

Facts about Al Qaeda:
Total number of Al Qaeda members worldwide unknown, estimated at about 5,000 in a world populations of 6,700,000,000.
Total number of countries controlled by Al Qaeda = none
Total number of countries where Al Qaeda operates in the open = none
Total number of governments that openly supports Al Qaeda = none
Total number of military equipment of Al Qaeda, planes = none, tanks = none, ships = none, satellites = none, drone aircraft = none, and so on and so forth
Total number of Al Qaeda living in the open – none they are all in hiding and being hunted.
Total number of Al Qaeda attacks in America in the last 8 years = none


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: mudslinger on 01 06, 11, 08:06:54:AM
The question is what do you do about 1.5 billion Muslim mental cases in this world, and that doesn't even count Liberals.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: mudslinger on 01 06, 11, 08:20:02:AM
Ho daddy you are so full of shit you should give yourself an enema.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 01 06, 11, 08:22:57:AM
Still getting your "facts" from youtube and unnamed sources on hubpages, Hooty?   (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: mudslinger on 01 06, 11, 08:26:34:AM
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Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 09:03:43:AM
A crazed Zionist killed his own president years ago for trying to make peace.

And a crazed Muslim killed his President for that very same peace accord. And killed the sure fire next President of the US in 1968. And, and, and, and, and....

You list all the WORLDWIDE terrorist acts by Jews in the past 40 years, and I'll list the ones by Muzzies. Deal? You first.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 09:04:47:AM
remember the Crusades?

You dumbass. I give a shit less about 1000 years ago. We're talking about NOW.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 09:07:42:AM
way more barbaric than the 50,000 muslims today who actually support al qaeda out of about a billion and a half muslims worldwide



Most estimates of muzzies that are 'radical' ones, is 10%. That would be more like 120 million, out of 1,2 billion.Read the fu**ing paper. They commit at least one terrorist attack per day, every day, 365 days a year.

Muslims ARE WMD.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 01 06, 11, 09:18:14:AM
120 million?  are you out of your mind?  the highest estimate of al qaeda in afghanistan is about 300...where do you think 150 million al qaeda would be hiding out?  god, try to at least pretend you have a clue what you are talking about....


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: mudslinger on 01 06, 11, 09:19:21:AM
I don't mind Islam as long as Muslims keep killing other Muslims, or as long as they stay in their own country, but when they start threatening the western world they are going to get their asses kicked and bad. That is if we can wake up the cowards in the west.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: Baretta19 on 01 06, 11, 09:23:27:AM
120 million?  are you out of your mind?  the highest estimate of al qaeda in afghanistan is about 300...where do you think 150 million al qaeda would be hiding out?  god, try to at least pretend you have a clue what you are talking about....
 
I guess we've forgotten about Viet Nam where the enemy stood right in front of you and you had no idea he/she was the enemy until they cut loose with an AK-47 or RPG or tossed the grenade.
 
Frankly the number of "terrorist" or "Al Queda" is nothing more than a WAG (Wild Ass Guess) as in the VN days, Assume they are the enemy until you prove otherwise, Hiding in pain sight comes to mind


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: 2whyme on 01 06, 11, 09:24:13:AM
120 million?  are you out of your mind?  the highest estimate of al qaeda in afghanistan is about 300...where do you think 150 million al qaeda would be hiding out?  god, try to at least pretend you have a clue what you are talking about....

Try for some reading comprehension, but I know that is difficult with your limited education.  Let me help you here, keno said:
Quote
Most estimates of muzzies that are 'radical' ones, is 10%. That would be more like 120 million, out of 1,2 billion

Note that keno didn't say al qaeda, or Afghanistan.  He referred to the entire muslim population of the world.

If you would read for comprehension, instead of leaping to the spin and deflect mode, you wouldn't appear to be such an uneducated twit.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 09:25:49:AM
120 million?  are you out of your mind?  the highest estimate of al qaeda in afghanistan is about 300

I'm not talking about the Yankees, hosemouth. I'm talking about all of professional baseball. There are hundreds of different groups of froth mouthed muzzie terrorists. That they don't call themselves 'al-qaeda' makes no difference.

Start by doing some reading up on the Muslim Brotherhood, and go from there.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 09:27:22:AM
Note that keno didn't say al qaeda, or Afghanistan.  He referred to the entire muslim population of the world.

If you would read for comprehension, instead of leaping to the spin and deflect mode, you wouldn't appear to be such an uneducated twit.

It was lost on hoser.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 01 06, 11, 10:12:16:AM
I guess we've forgotten about Viet Nam where the enemy stood right in front of you and you had no idea he/she was the enemy until they cut loose with an AK-47 or RPG or tossed the grenade.
 
Frankly the number of "terrorist" or "Al Queda" is nothing more than a WAG (Wild Ass Guess) as in the VN days, Assume they are the enemy until you prove otherwise, Hiding in pain sight comes to mind.

 
 
Bingo!!  A damn good reminder...(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: August West on 01 06, 11, 10:23:09:AM
Be it Vietnam,Israel,Iraq,etc. the root cause of terrorism is occupation.                                                                           http://cpost.uchicago.edu/ctf_book.php (http://cpost.uchicago.edu/ctf_book.php)                              


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: 2whyme on 01 06, 11, 10:25:54:AM
 
Be it Vietnam,Israel,Iraq,etc. the root cause of terrorism is occupation.                                                                           http://cpost.uchicago.edu/ctf_book.php (http://cpost.uchicago.edu/ctf_book.php)                              

Interesting thought, care to tell me who was being occupied by whom that caused 9/11?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 10:32:46:AM
Be it Vietnam,Israel,Iraq,etc. the root cause of terrorism is occupation.   
 
LOL. That, of course, is why Muzzies kill hundreds of thousands of their fellow countrymen, because they are 'occupiers'. And why African black Christians are being wiped out, and taken into slavery, by Arab Muslims, because those evil Africans invaded Arab countries. That's why Muzzies kill folks in the Philipines. And Thailand. And Australia. And Spain. And Fwance.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 10:34:38:AM
U of Chicago? Did Bill Ayers write that? You know him, right? A terrorist.
 
Americans 'occupied' America, and Billy the Terrorist didn't like that.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 01 06, 11, 10:40:31:AM
the root cause of terrorism is occupation.                     
 
No, the root cause of (Islamic) terrorism goes back to the terrorist Mohammed, the Quran and Islam in general.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: NathanBForrest on 01 06, 11, 10:44:50:AM
Contrary to popular progressive loon belief it is the muzzies not the KKK that we need to worry about !!


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: August West on 01 06, 11, 10:48:56:AM


Interesting thought, care to tell me who was being occupied by whom that caused 9/11?
It could be our unwavering support of the Israeli occupiers. They didn`t fly planes into skyscrapers in Japan,Canada,Australia,Sweden,etc. You do a study of 2,200 terror attacks and get back to me with your results.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 01 06, 11, 10:52:30:AM
Care to explain why Europe is under attack by Islamic terrorists as well as Africa, etc?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: NathanBForrest on 01 06, 11, 11:01:09:AM
Care to explain why Europe is under attack by Islamic terrorists as well as Africa, etc?
 
Sweet this piece of ilovejim , augustwest aka bronxnigger is a fundamentalist jihadi . Do you need more of an explanation ?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: August West on 01 06, 11, 11:03:08:AM
I couldn`t tell you sweet. I haven`t studied the 2200 attacks that the authors of this study have and nowhere do they make the claim that religious fanatacism plays no role. Did you see that?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: Baretta19 on 01 06, 11, 11:05:31:AM
Be it Vietnam,Israel,Iraq,etc. the root cause of terrorism is occupation.
 
Bullshit spoken by ignorant fool,


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 01 06, 11, 11:07:22:AM
Islamic terrorism in Europe, Africa, Russia, China, the Middle East and most of the globe have what in common?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: August West on 01 06, 11, 11:12:31:AM
Be it Vietnam,Israel,Iraq,etc. the root cause of terrorism is occupation.

Bullshit spoken by ignorant fool,
Ignorant fools. That`s what those researchers with PHD`s are. Good one Baretta. Attack the messenger when the subject is too complex for ya.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 01 06, 11, 11:16:11:AM
Islamic terrorism in Europe, Africa, Russia, China, the Middle East and most of the globe have what in common?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: August West on 01 06, 11, 11:22:35:AM
Who do you hate more...muslims or educators?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: derhund on 01 06, 11, 11:32:54:AM
For Cripes sake!!!  Listen to all these Libs coming to the defense of Muslim Terrorists and Assasins!!  Libs truly have brain damage and need to be
   sent to re-education camps!!
 


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 11:41:55:AM
It could be our unwavering support of the Israeli occupiers.

LOL. Israel was formed with the blessing of your beloved UN. The land that was supposed to go to the Jews, according to the Balfour Gareement, included all of Israel, and the so called West Bank. The Arab homeland was to be what is now Jordan. But, since the Brits decided to give the Arab land to the Hashemites, in return for their help in WWI, they had to carve the Jewish land up, and give half of it to the 'palestinians'.

But, be that as it may, the Jews were willing to accept that carving up, and declared the State of Israel, in 1948. Immediately, the Arabs of several different countries attacked, with the intention of wiping out the Jews. As usual, they were incompetent, and Israel kicked their collective ass. Badly. However, Jordan also benefitted rom the war, in that they seized the West Bank, and East Jerusalem. And they ran that part of the ME, until later wars, started by Arabs, led to them getting their asses kicked, and Israel taking the land back.

Even then, Israel offered Arafat 97% of all that the so called palestinians asked for. What did it get Israel? The intifada.

In short, peace is not what the Arabs want. They want to wipe out the Jews. Period. And the Arab world uses them to carry out their propaganda against Israel, knowing there are enough useful idiots in the world, like you, auggie, to repeat their lies as truth.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 01 06, 11, 12:07:30:PM
by what right did jews living all over europe have any claim to any of what is now israel?  where palestinians were living?  that is where the argument kinda breaks down.  as far as my comment about 300 al qaeda in afghanistan...according to bush and now obama, the reason we have 150,000 soldiers in afghanistan is to contain al qaeda....that this is the hotbed of the al qaeda movement...and we are talking about 300 of them...get it, dumbasses?  and don't tell me there are 120 million al qaeda hiding out in pakistan.  120 million al qaeda is a ridiculous number.  50,000 is way too much.  and the only validity in referring to vietnam is that it was a stupid fucking senseless discretionary war, too, just like iraq and now just like afghanistan....


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: 2whyme on 01 06, 11, 12:22:22:PM
 
by what right did jews living all over europe have any claim to any of what is now israel?  where palestinians were living?  that is where the argument kinda breaks down.  as far as my comment about 300 al qaeda in afghanistan...according to bush and now obama, the reason we have 150,000 soldiers in afghanistan is to contain al qaeda....that this is the hotbed of the al qaeda movement...and we are talking about 300 of them...get it, dumbasses?  and don't tell me there are 120 million al qaeda hiding out in pakistan.  120 million al qaeda is a ridiculous number.  50,000 is way too much.  and the only validity in referring to vietnam is that it was a stupid fucking senseless discretionary war, too, just like iraq and now just like afghanistan....

You have a serious reading comprehension problem.  Keno said :
Quote
Israel was formed with the blessing of your beloved UN

Is that statement incorrect?  I don't believe so, so that explains why Jews from all over Europe have any claim.....

Further, you refuse to admit you messed up about the 120 million al qaeda in Pakistan, you reading comprehension changed individual.  Kena said that 10% of the Muslim population was in the radical group, he said nothing about where they were located.  The location is just your usual inane spin and deflect.  Get an education and then come back.

 


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 01 06, 11, 12:41:43:PM
i don't care what the UN says...jews living in europe have no claim to where other people were living.  and anybody that believes there are 120 million al qaeda members have no real education.  it is a farcical, made up number with no basis in reality. 


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: 2whyme on 01 06, 11, 12:46:19:PM
 
i don't care what the UN says...jews living in europe have no claim to where other people were living.  and anybody that believes there are 120 million al qaeda members have no real education.  it is a farcical, made up number with no basis in reality. 

You really won't give up your spin for the muslims,  other than you, no one has said there are 120 million al quaeda members.  Give it up, before you more idiotic than you normally do.

I doubt that anyone cares what you think about UN actions, if you don't like it take it up with the UN.  I am sure that they are as concerned about what you think as we are.  You are, truly, an uneducated little twit.  You just cannot take it when someone, in fact several someones, have pointed out your lack of reading comprehension.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 01:27:25:PM
 don't care what the UN says...jews living in europe have no claim to where other people were living.
 
They have no right to emigrate to a Jewish homeland, where they can't be rounded up and put in ovens again? Is that what you are saying? Then I'm sure you agree that the hundreds of thousands of muzzies that immigrate to the US have no right to, and should get their asses back to where they belong.
 
Some 800,000 Jews came to Israel from Arab nations, where they were kicked out, after the founding of the Jewish state. Why don't the Arabs assimilate the equl number of 'palestinians' into their lands, like Israel did for the Jews? Why do some 1.4 million Arabs live in Israel, but the 'palestinians' want no Jews whatsoever living in the West Bank and Gaza?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: Byteryder on 01 06, 11, 01:33:36:PM
 
Quote
by what right did jews living all over europe have any claim to any of what is now israel?  where Palestinians were living?

By what right do the Palestinians have any claim?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: whaler23 on 01 06, 11, 01:40:22:PM
so will everyone on this tread who issists the muzzies are worthless killing machines, and dont deserve the space on the planet that they occupy, riddle me this ? ... ANYONE?


why in the fucking hell did you support this country spending $12 billion dollars a month in Iraq just so AKBAR COULD HAVE A PURPLE THUMB?

why in the hell would you care if Saddam killed 100 thousand muslims, or 100 million muslims ? Based on your standards and comments YOU SHOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM A FUCKING AWARD NOT HUNG HIM.

day in, day out its a constant NUKE THE MUZZIE BASTARDS on one thread, and fight to the death to save them from evil bad men on the next.

all of you morons are so fucked up its not funny, which makes it TOTALLY FUNNY!!!


LMAO.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 01:47:53:PM
why in the fucking hell did you support this country spending $12 billion dollars a month in Iraq just so AKBAR COULD HAVE A PURPLE THUMB?

We were helping him kill muzzies. I think you are a muzzie. Put him on the list.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: Byteryder on 01 06, 11, 01:50:43:PM
Actually, whaler, nuking the Iraqis and Afghans is the preferable course.  It just isnt acceptable.... yet.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: whaler23 on 01 06, 11, 01:54:13:PM
We were helping him kill muzzies. I think you are a muzzie. Put him on the list.
bullshit ... the third excuse down the list was to liberate the repressed people under the evil dictatorship

wmd's didnt work out
saddam being connected to 9 11 didn pan out

so it came down to playing big brother and saving grace to the third world pukes youm seem to dispise


and every one of you mental midgets not only bought it ... all the while strepping on your hypocritical lil dicks ... and for 8 YEARS no less.


hahahahahahahahaha


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 01:56:02:PM
Thedamn Insane's involvement in the OKC bombing was enough to justify overthrowing him. Not to mention all the many violations of the cease fire agreement from the Gulf War that allowed him to remain in power.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: whaler23 on 01 06, 11, 01:58:39:PM
Thedamn Insane's involvement in the OKC bombing was enough to justify overthrowing him. Not to mention all the many violations of the cease fire agreement from the Gulf War that allowed him to remain in power.
 
 
quit fucking deflecting
 
 
you either want them all dead or youre willing to sacrifice american soldiers lives to protect them from an evil dictator
 
 
which is it you pissy lil hypocrit?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 01:59:07:PM
wmd's didnt work out


LOL. They are in Syria and Lebanon. Hell man, we had video of all the trucks lined up at the Syrian border, and Iraq moving the military in to oversee the border crossing. As well as the former chief of the Iraqi AF, saying they were moved to Syria. That's why Bush should never have let the left hold up the invasion. Never trust communists.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 02:02:04:PM
quit fucking deflecting
 
 
you either want them all dead or youre willing to sacrifice american soldiers lives to protect them from an evil dictator
 
 
which is it you pissy lil hypocrit?
 
I answer your question, and you call it deflecting.
 
I never said I want them all dead. I want the West to stop allowing them to emigrate. And I want to go after the terrorists.
 
LOL...coming from a lily livered coward like you.....I got your hypocrit hanging from yer old lady's jaws.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: whaler23 on 01 06, 11, 02:04:33:PM
LOL. They are in Syria and Lebanon



BBBAAAAWWWAAAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



what a fucking bunch of bullshit .. and the Iraqi Air Force was buried in the desert ... ALL 1 of them (that had been stripped for 20 years before it was buried)


anyone else care to make an idiot out of themselves with a salvo of what could be or could have been.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 02:14:07:PM
what a fucking bunch of bullshit .. and the Iraqi Air Force was buried in the desert ... ALL 1 of them (that had been stripped for 20 years before it was buried)


anyone else care to make an idiot out of themselves with a salvo of what could be or could have been.
 
 
Yeah, it wasn't on the democraticunderground site, or huffpuff, or moveon, or PMSNBC, so it can't be true. Nobody said anything about the Iraqi Air Force. Learn to comprehend what you read, you dumbshit.
 
The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.
The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591454042/qid=1138293088/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-9365920-2992826?n=507846&s=books&v=glance)," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.
 
Saddam Hussein moved his chemical weapons to Syria six weeks before the war started, Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom says.
The assertion comes as President Bush said yesterday that much of the intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction was incorrect.
The Israeli officer, Lieutenant General Moshe Yaalon, asserted that Saddam spirited his chemical weapons out of the country on the eve of the war. "He transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria," General Yaalon told The New York Sun over dinner in New York on Tuesday night. "No one went to Syria to find it."
 
In April 2005, Inspector Charles Duelfer, who leads the Iraq Survey Group, said that there was "sufficiently credible" evidence to indicate that WMD had been moved to Syria (http://washingtontimes.com/national/20050427-121915-1667r.htm).
 
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=27846&sugexp=cgsisas&xhr=t&q=wmd+moved+to+syria&cp=8&pf=p&sclient=psy&aq=0&aqi=&aql=f&oq=wmd+moved+&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=7b989c6c17f79c85 (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=27846&sugexp=cgsisas&xhr=t&q=wmd+moved+to+syria&cp=8&pf=p&sclient=psy&aq=0&aqi=&aql=f&oq=wmd+moved+&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=7b989c6c17f79c85)


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: wvit1001 on 01 06, 11, 02:21:03:PM
He knows how to sell a book to conservonuts, even though he doesn't actually have knowledge himself he says that his friends told him all about it -
 
 
 
 
Georges Sada appeared the following day on Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, where he discussed his book and reported that other pilots told him that Hussein had ordered them to fly portions of the WMD stockpiles to Damascus in Syria just prior to the 2003 Invasion of Iraq.
 
Well, I want to make it clear, very clear to everybody in the world that we had the weapon of mass destruction in Iraq, and the regime used them against our Iraqi people...I know it because I have got the captains of the Iraqi airway that were my friends, and they told me these weapons of mass destruction had been moved to Syria. Iraq had some projects for nuclear weapons but it was destroyed in 1981. (When asked if there was any chance there were nuclear weapons or on their way to nuclear weapons when USA invaded, he said): Not in Iraq.
 


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: wvit1001 on 01 06, 11, 02:25:47:PM
Everyone knew that Saddam had chemical weapons at one time.  Cheney and his buddies had given them to him with Bush Sr.'s blessing -
 
 
(http://www.injusticebusters.com/index.htg/00001/saddam_Rumsfeld.jpg)
 
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_Q5GZe2kqdmg/Rsh7bhnbBDI/AAAAAAAAACM/KSyeVvCRXUc/s400/cheney_baghdad_dick.jpg)
 
 


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 02:36:28:PM
Everyone knew that Saddam had chemical weapons at one time.  Cheney and his buddies had given them to him with Bush Sr.'s blessing -
 

 
You really should do more research.
 
In the early 1970s, Saddam Hussein ordered the creation of a clandestine nuclear weapons (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Nuclear_weapon) program.
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As part of Project 922 (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/w/index.php?title=Project_922&action=edit&redlink=1), German firms such as Karl Kobe helped build Iraqi chemical weapons facilities such as laboratories, bunkers, an administrative building, and first production buildings in the early 1980s under the cover of a pesticide plant. Other German firms sent 1,027 tons of precursors of mustard gas (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Mustard_gas), sarin (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Sarin), tabun (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Tabun_(nerve_agent)), and tear gasses (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Tear_gas) in all. This work allowed Iraq to produce 150 tons of mustard agent and 60 tons of Tabun (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Tabun_(nerve_agent)) in 1983 and 1984 respectively, continuing throughout the decade. Five other German firms supplied equipment to manufacture botulin (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Botulin) toxin and mycotoxin (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Mycotoxin) for germ warfare. In 1988, German engineers presented centrifuge (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Centrifuge) data that helped Iraq expand its nuclear weapons program. Laboratory equipment and other information was provided, involving many German engineers. All told, 52% of Iraq's international chemical weapon equipment was of German origin. The State Establishment for Pesticide Production (SEPP) ordered culture media and incubators from Germany's Water Engineering Trading.
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France built Iraq's Osirak (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Osirak) nuclear reactor in the late 1970s. Israel (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Israel) claimed that Iraq was nearing production of nuclear weapons, and destroyed (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Operation_Opera) the French-built reactor in 1981. Later, a French company built a turnkey (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Turnkey) factory which helped make nuclear fuel. France also provided glass-lined reactors, tanks, vessels, and columns used for the production of chemical weapons. Around 21% of Iraq’s international chemical weapon equipment was of French origin. Strains of dual-use biological material also helped advance Iraq’s biological warfare program.
Italy gave Iraq plutonium extraction facilities that advanced Iraq’s nuclear weapon program along with 75,000 shells and rockets designed for chemical weapons. Between 1979 and 1982 Italy gave depleted, natural, and low-enriched uranium. Swiss companies aided in Iraq’s nuclear weapons development in the form of specialized presses, milling machines, grinding machines, electrical discharge machines, and equipment for processing uranium to nuclear weapon grade. Brazil (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Brazil) secretly aided the Iraqi nuclear weapon program by supplying natural uranium dioxide between 1981 and 1982 without notifying the IAEA. About 100 tons of mustard gas also came from Brazil.
The United States exported support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war|over $500 million worth of dual use exports (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Exports) to Iraq that were approved by the Commerce department. Among them were advanced computers, some of which were used in Iraq's nuclear program.
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Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 02:38:26:PM
In the late 80s, the British government secretly gave the arms company Matrix Churchill (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Matrix_Churchill) permission to supply parts for Saddam Hussein's weapons program, while British Industry supplied Gerald Bull (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Gerald_Bull) as he developed the Iraqi supergun (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Iraqi_supergun). In March 1990, a case of nuclear triggers bound for Iraq, were seized at Heathrow Airport (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Heathrow_Airport). The Scott Report (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Scott_Report) uncovered much of the secrecy that had surrounded the Arms-to-Iraq (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/wiki/Arms-to-Iraq) affair when it became known.
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Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: wvit1001 on 01 06, 11, 02:46:55:PM
 A letter from the Centers For Disease Control and Prevention, which I
shall submit for the Record, shows very clearly that the United States
is, in fact, preparing to reap what it has sewn. A letter written in
1995 by former CDC Director David Satcher to former Senator Donald W.
Riegle, Jr., points out that the U.S. Government provided nearly two
dozen viral and bacterial samples to Iraqi scientists in 1985--samples
that included the plague, botulism, and anthrax, among other deadly
diseases.
  According to the letter from Dr. Satcher to former Senator Donald
Riegle, many of the materials were hand carried by an Iraqi scientist
to Iraq after he had spent 3 months training in the CDC laboratory.
 
 
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_cr/s092002.html (http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_cr/s092002.html)


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 02:49:58:PM
That was listed in my two previous posts. It was a pittance to what other nations gave them.  And Iraq claimed it was for medical research. Just like they claimed their reactor was for peaceful energy purposes. Of course, they wouldn't have needed nuclear triggers, if that were the case, would they?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: whaler23 on 01 06, 11, 02:50:57:PM
The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.
The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591454042/qid=1138293088/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-9365920-2992826?n=507846&s=books&v=glance)," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.



well sport, there ya go ! More of the pissy hypocrisy ozzes out of the seams of your lil skull ...


worthless muzzies, kill em all, but thake their word for the truth BEFORE we 86 em ... gee, if youre on board with what a muzzie has to say, then you must be a muzzie or at least a muzzie sympathizer ... lol

which one is it kenosada ?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: wvit1001 on 01 06, 11, 03:10:48:PM
So someone who is trying to sell a book and has no actual first hand knowledge that something happened but says he heard it from a friend rates high on your list of trusted people?
 
Why does that not surprise me? 


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 03:12:48:PM
worthless muzzies, kill em all, but thake their word for the truth BEFORE we 86 em ... gee, if youre on board with what a muzzie has to say, then you must be a muzzie or at least a muzzie sympathizer ... lol

which one is it kenosada ?
 
 
 
Again, you misrepresent what I've posted. Nothing new.
 
whalemouth.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 03:14:26:PM
So someone who is trying to sell a book and has no actual first hand knowledge that something happened but says he heard it from a friend rates high on your list of trusted people?
 
Why does that not surprise me? 

 
Look at the google search I provided. 89,000 sites.  But you really aren't interested in anything that doesn't fit your agenda, are ya?
 
Why does that not surprise me?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: whaler23 on 01 06, 11, 03:17:03:PM
we cant trust a muzzie death machine, yes we can, no we cant, yes we can ..........


the argument continues in the simplistic minds of the kenosada's on the board
 
 
kenosada, just stfu and but your muzzie pals book (if you havent already) ... LOL


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: whaler23 on 01 06, 11, 03:24:11:PM
well, I googled
 
"keno is an idiot"
 
 
and got 1,180,000 responses in .24 seconds ...
 
 
kenosada wins!
 
lamo.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 03:26:59:PM
Hey whalemouth. Fuck you.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: keno on 01 06, 11, 03:28:44:PM
This is true...LOL
 
Google whalemouth is an asshole
 
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=whalemouth+is+an+asshole&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=7b989c6c17f79c85 (http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=whalemouth+is+an+asshole&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=7b989c6c17f79c85)


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: Byteryder on 01 06, 11, 03:30:56:PM
Geeeez, vit.  You fellers just cant get out of the past , can ya?


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: whaler23 on 01 06, 11, 03:34:08:PM
you bet Im an asshole, never said I wasnt. But nobody can understand why you continue to deny youre an idiot.

nonetheless, with over 1 million responses to keno is an idiot, vs 1180 to whalemouth is an asshole ...


youre the BIG winner, idiot.


snick


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: Jim on 01 06, 11, 04:01:03:PM
 
Quote
why in the fucking hell did you support this country spending $12 billion dollars a month in Iraq just so AKBAR COULD HAVE A PURPLE THUMB?

why in the hell would you care if Saddam killed 100 thousand muslims, or 100 million muslims ? Based on your standards and comments YOU SHOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM A FUCKING AWARD NOT HUNG HIM.

day in, day out its a constant NUKE THE MUZZIE BASTARDS on one thread, and fight to the death to save them from evil bad men on the next.

For me personally, I will revert back to the first post in which I mentioned the Lion and the Cougar.  I would not trust being alone with any of those at all.  I don't hate them. I just don't trust them. In their natural habitat they probably live just fine amongst the other Lions and Cougars.
 
But just because I don't trust them and would not want one in my own backyard does not mean that I would not come to their defense if I heard they were being exterminated, or unjustly murdered.
 
It is called being "Humane." 
 
I personally do not need to like someone or some thing to know when that person or thing is in need of help or protection.  If that's hypocritical, then so-be-it. It would appear most Americans happen to be that way. Stepping one further I would claim most "people" are hypocritically humane.  I say "most" because some are not, and we know who they are, don't we.  In fact, I would lay odds that "Americans" are more likely to come to the aid of someone, or thing,  long before any other nation or group. Some of those Americans may indeed be of the Muslim faith. Some of them. But as a group, and especially as a nation, I would lay odds on Americans arriving in aid long before it ever occured to anyone else. Especially a Muslim Nation. If it occured at all.
 
 
 
 
 


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: flgirl on 01 06, 11, 04:12:16:PM
Keno, hooty keeps bringing up the crusades because he is trying to convince everyone that the Jews were the bad guys when all along the muslims were the ones that started the wars with them, just as they are doing today with the Jews and Christians.  They have been starting wars ever since the years beginning in the 500's.  You must know who their god is by the way they have been acting ever since the beginning.  Our God is not the  god who  comes up with the evil things they do to other peoples.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: whaler23 on 01 06, 11, 04:43:01:PM
It is called being "Humane
 
really? how interesting ...
 
and there was Rowanda ... where no defense was offered dispite the inhumane killing of millions, not thousands.
 
 
gee, who knew.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: Jim on 01 06, 11, 05:10:56:PM

It wasn't Millions, it was 800,000.   That's still too many people to die senselessly. However;
You would have to ask Bill Clinton why he refused to act on Rwanda. He later regretted that non-action.
 
 
 
 
 
 


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: whaler23 on 01 06, 11, 05:25:27:PM
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September 9th 2004, United States Secretary of State Colin Powell said the Darfur conflict was genocide, and called it the worst humanitarian crisis of the 21st century. This is the first time the Untied States has ever declared genocide while the genocide was still happening.
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pardon me, I spelled Darfur incorrectly.


Title: Re: Muslims are becoming totally indefensible through their own action
Post by: Baretta19 on 01 06, 11, 06:49:15:PM
Frankly I was waiting for that religion of peace and love to step in and help out in Darfur, evidently we waited to long