Jesus did not come to bring salvation and peace

[Me_Beavis_U]

 

If someone was crucified in the manner of the Romans, death need not be faked.  It was the real thing, a painful death.

Were you there Charley??

[Jim]

 
I recall in grade school our history books claimed christians and slaves were sometimes killed by pouring melted lead down their throats, not to mention the "sport" of seeing how long a christian or slave could outrun a hungry lion.
 
But that was a time when our history books were not afraid to reveal what was likely the true history of the world.
 
 

[Me_Beavis_U]

You mean like the Old Testament?

[duke_john]

Beavis, do you seriously believe that Roman crucifixion was a quick, painless and temporary punishment?

If you think so, you have some serious studying to do.

[Me_Beavis_U]

Doesn't matter what I think. You or I were not there, nor did we see what happened. It was written about 100 years later, edited 600 after that. I think that he was not what you believe, that is all. I don't believe your God is any more viable than a Sun God.

[D2D]

If true what is your purpose?

[Me_Beavis_U]

After all that is written here, that is all you question. How sad D2. My purpose is to learn, What is YOURS?



duke.

Crucifixion through the hands will not support the weight of the body. All Christian Crosses have him crucified through the hands. If they got that Wrong. Well I question everything about the story.

[duke_john]

True Roman crucifixion was nailing (sometimes rope binding) through the wrists and upper instep, not the palms.  The person was unable to slouch or stand on a small platform.  It was agonizing.

And, I agree that the common depiction of nailing through the palms is incorrect.

[Me_Beavis_U]

When I grew up there was Purgatory, No meat on Friday, and Idolatry in the faith.

Now Purgatory is no more and eating Fish on Friday is Good for your health but meat is not forbidden, well two out of three isn't bad.

The more you bother to learn the more there is to question.

[D2D]

After all that is written here, that is all you question. How sad D2. My purpose is to learn, What is YOURS?

To what end?
 
According to Atheism your born and you die with nothing before and nothing after!
 
What is the point?
 
What is your purpose?
 
According to Atheism the universe is all happenstance!
 
 

[Me_Beavis_U]

Good For THEM. Maybe they understand the word "INFINITY" and what happens in an "INFINITE" amount of Time in 11 dimensions and 3 dimensional time. This goes way over my head of course like Chaos Theory , but it is an example of the difficulty grasping what is right in front of us, without the problems caused by trying to Grasp what is not.

 Ask yourself why the Vatican has a List of Forbidden Books that Christians are forbidden to read?

[duke_john]

The Index Librorum Prohibitorum ("List of Prohibited Books") became obsolete in 1966 and is no longer considered a mandate not to read certain writings.