Yes - our Founders WERE about freedom FROM religion

[captain_kook]

All of the founders, including Jefferson, did not want any one sect of Christianity to become our state religion as with England at that time.   The founders believed and were right that all sects of Christianity should be equal in the US government
 
 
WRONG
 
 
Jefferson despised organized "Christianity" for its hypocrisy
 
He certainly did NOT want any sect of "Christianity" to control our futures.
 
 
 
That's why he worked for FREEDOM FROM THE CHURCH


and for COMPLETE SEPARATION of Church from State
 

[D2D]

Wrong Jefferson attended services at the capitol!

[sine-qua-non]

kooky doesn't surprise me that he falls for the PBS progressive version of a Godless America.

The history channel's  'America, Who We  Are' is just about as bad from leaving out the critical seminal

parts but advancing the non consequential parts, thus being dishonest.

They've really gone down the tubes since Nancy Dubac became CEO. She has turned it into a bunch of

reality crap that has very little, if anything to do with actual history. Many of the posters on THC board call

it 'The Trailer Park Channel" because that seems to be THC's targeted audience. Nancy Dubac is the same

person who ruined A&E.

[captain_kook]

So that visit to a church negated all of Jefferson's opposition to a state church, D2D?

NO

[13]

This might upset those Beckistanis who think Beckistani versions of history are "better" than the truth...

Americans are taught that the fact that we have religious freedom in America is due to colonial resistance to British and European oppression of various sects and that that was why we wound up with the First Amendment.

We're also told that Americans rallied to revolt only against British oppression.

But the TRUTH is that the revolution was LARGELY a reaction and resistance to religious oppression IN THE COLONIES established BY THE COLONIAL GOVERNMENTS.

For example:

Virginia mandated membership in a STATE RELIGION and took steps like rounding up and imprisoning offenders [like the Baptists] to enforce it. Not only that - the State churches were all funded by TAXES collected from farmers by armed tax collectors.

Virginia was not alone:

Congregationalists and Anglicans who, before 1776, had received public financial support, called their state benefactors "nursing fathers" (Isaiah 49:23). After independence they urged the state governments, as "nursing fathers," to continue succoring them.

Knowing that in the egalitarian, post-independence era, the public would no longer permit single denominations to monopolize state support, legislators devised "general assessment schemes." Religious taxes were laid on all citizens, each of whom was given the option of designating his share to the church of his choice. Such laws took effect in Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New Hampshire and were passed but not implemented in Maryland and Georgia.

After a general assessment scheme was defeated in Virginia, an incongruous coalition of Baptists and theological liberals united to sunder state from church. However, the outcome in Virginia of the state-church debate did not, it should be remembered, represent the views of the majority of American states that wrestled with this issue in the 1780s.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel05.html


Thomas Jefferson took on the Baptist's case and won passage in the Virginia legislature REPEAL of all state-support and funding for any individual sect and guaranteeed that NOBODY COULD BE FORCED TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY RELIGION.

THAT became the basis as well for the First Amendment to the Constitution.

NOT - as right-wingrrrr revisionists claim - to create a Christian nation - FAR FROM IT.


Watch the new PBS documentary "God in America" for more of the real history of religious freedom in America:

trailer:
http://video.pbs.org/video/1493303211/


Part 1:
http://video.pbs.org/video/1610726967/

Part 2:
http://video.pbs.org/video/1610731418/

parts 3 and 4 will be broadcast soon

Thanks for the good info, cap'n, and the heads up for the further PBS broadcasts.

Fascinating how the bunch of immoral idiots in here scream an holler about their right to practice religion, isn't it?

What religion, is my question?

What religion do the RWFs of aeslops practice?

It sure ain't Christianity, that's for sure.

[D2D]

He didn't visit a church but attended services on government property in the Capitol!

[captain_kook]

Wow D2D
 
that has deep significance
 
in your shallow mind

[D2D]

If as you say he was for freedom "from" religion, he would have opposed any church services held on public property!

[captain_kook]

hey nitwit D2Duh
 
by that time there was no longer state funding and support for any particluar sect
 
 
he had won his fight against mandatory participation in and public funding for a state religion

[sweetwater5s9]

All of the founders, including Jefferson, did not want any one sect of Christianity to become our state religion as with England at that time.   The founders believed and were right that all sects of Christianity should be equal in the US government

 
WRONG

 
 
Sorry, you are wrong and trying to rewrite Constitutional intent..., Liberals do that with their faux, "living document" theory...

[lluke47]

liberals are perverts and stupid, they'll believe anything that is against a decent society that religion promotes..
 
Our FF's believed God was the the only one who could make us a great nation just as our constitution was written to do...liberal perverts hate that and smear it with their vile lies..

[captain_kook]

sorry Sweetie


your revisionist Beckistani history is ridiculously inaccurate