Here's an opinion

Quote from: emilyB on 01 12, 19, 09:24:57:PM

Sometimes you just have to laugh at how crazy things have got!

Let me axe you trump voters and wall devotees and crisis believes a "quorstion:"

Trump has been president for 2 years with a repub congress. No crisis. No shutdowns. Data shows there were less border detentions the latest year than since the 70's...but when the midterms came up, and it was clear democrats were going to take back the House, THEN that is when the crisis talk started. the invasion talk. the we have to send troops to the border or they will slit our throats talk. the blaming congress for not sending him any wall funding bills. all this hysterical, untrue, gutless, bigoted bullshit designed to gin up his gutless, bigoted base began in earnest- especially since the democrats did take the House....despite Trump's promise Mexico would pay...so many times. Despite Trump's telling Schumer and Pelosi, in front of Fox Channel and everybody, that he would take the blame for the shutdown. He would NEVER blame the democrats!!

you trump voters could give a shit. you don't care if he lies. you don't care if he plays you like a fool. you don't care if he invents "crisis" after "crisis" to deflect from real news about real important stuff like him making deals with Russia in order to get elected..going back all the way to Trump and his team insisting on a change to the GOP Platform after he took over that gutless corrupt party-

One of the questions raised over the course of this year's presidential race is about how a President Trump would deal with Russian president Vladimir Putin.

One reason to wonder: the Republican Party platform's new language on policy towards Ukraine.

When Republican Party leaders drafted the platform prior to their convention in Cleveland last month, they had relatively little input from the campaign of then-presumptive nominee Donald Trump on most issues — except when it came to a future Republican administration's stance on Ukraine.

It started when platform committee member Diana Denman tried to insert language calling for the U.S. to provide lethal defensive weapons to the Ukrainian government, which is fighting a separatist insurrection backed by Russia. Denman says she had no idea she was "going into a fire fight," calling it "an interesting exchange, to say the least."

Denman is a long time GOP activist from Texas. When she presented her proposal during a platform subcommittee meeting last month, "two gentleman," whom Denman said were part of the Trump campaign, came over, looked at the language, and asked that it be set aside for further review.

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She says after further discussion the pair "had to make some calls and clear it." She says they found the language was still too strong.

The Trump campaign convinced the platform committee to change Denman's proposal. It went from calling on the U.S. to provide Ukraine "lethal defensive weapons" to the more benign phrase "appropriate assistance."

It's more than semantics. Many Republicans have been demanding the Obama administration provide a more robust response to Russia's incursions in Ukraine.

Denman "was steam rolled," said Melinda Haring of the Atlantic Council, a Washington, DC, think tank, who believes the language the Trump campaign approved is weaker. And she says "it's anyone's guess" what Trump would do regarding Ukraine and Russia, and that perhaps he might not even back "appropriate assistance."

Still, that comment raised eyebrows, especially combined with his campaign chairman Paul Manafort's past work for deposed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, a Putin ally. (and news that Mantafort gave Trump Campaign internal voter related data for the 2016 election to a known Russian agent WHILE CAMPAIGN MANAGER FOR TRUMP)

Another GOP delegate on the platform committee, Rachel Hoff, is a national security analyst with the American Action Forum and believe the final platform language signals that a Trump administration would refuse to send lethal defensive weapons to Ukraine.

"This puts Trump out of step certainly with Republican leadership but I would also say mainstream conservative foreign policy or national security opinion," Hoff said.

Republicans in Congress have approved providing arms to the Ukrainian government but the White House has resisted, saying that it would only encourage more bloodshed.

https://www.npr.org/2016/08/06/488876597/how-the-trump-campaign-weakened-the-republican-platform-on-aid-to-ukraine