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chuck_curtis
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« on: 02 22, 18, 09:43:12:PM » Reply

A number of top-ranking Democrats have oft-repeated a claim that the United States has far more mass shootings than in other Western countries.
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But according to a study on mass shootings around the globe, the United States ranks 11th on a list of countries which lead the world in mass shootings per capita.

The study, led by economist John Lott at the Crime Research Prevention Center, is based on data from 2009 to 2015.

So where does the United States actually stand? Here is the list of the 18 countries with the highest rate of deaths from public mass shootings per million people:

Norway: 1.888
Serbia: 0.381
France: 0.347
Macedonia: 0.337
Albania: 0.206
Slovakia: 0.185
Switzerland: 0.142
Finland: 0.132
Belgium: 0.128
Czech Republic: 0.123
United States: 0.089
Austria: 0.068
The Netherlands: 0. 051
Canada: 0.032
England: 0.027
Germany: 0.023
Russia: 0.012
Italy: 0.009

https://www.theepochtimes.com/claims-of-united-states-being-the-worst-country-for-mass-shootings-are-wrong-study-shows_2447429.html
Truman62
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MAGA Policies bring Misery and Death to America!


« Reply #1 on: 02 22, 18, 09:45:25:PM » Reply

Norway had that ONE horrific monster kill those kids and a few adults at the island/school.

50 or so died on that, which is the ONLY reason Norway is up there.

If not for that, Norway probably wouldn't show up...
gwboolean
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« Reply #2 on: 02 22, 18, 10:11:52:PM » Reply

Comrade Chuckles is like all of our other Soviet bots in that he uses misleading numbers to paint a completely false picture.  He is the perfect Apparatchik. 
wvit1001
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« Reply #3 on: 02 22, 18, 10:18:21:PM » Reply

When adjusted for population, the United States ranks in the upper half of their list of 11 countries, ranking higher than Australia, Canada, China, England, France, Germany and Mexico. The United States did rank lower than three countries -- Norway, Finland and Switzerland -- but they have populations so small that one or two mass-casualty events can produce a relatively high per capita rate.
chuck_curtis
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Let's go Brandon!


« Reply #4 on: 02 22, 18, 10:38:22:PM » Reply

Question is:  why do your leaders spew bullchit instead of telling us the facts?
gwboolean
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« Reply #5 on: 02 22, 18, 11:17:57:PM » Reply

They told the facts.  You, however didn't.  You used numbers to paint a completely false picture Comrade Chuckles.  A frequent occurrence with you Soviet bots. 
lluke47
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« Reply #6 on: 02 23, 18, 12:03:39:AM » Reply

It should be looked at by race. Wonder what that would look like..?  LOL
chuck_curtis
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Let's go Brandon!


« Reply #7 on: 02 23, 18, 12:21:44:AM » Reply

What's more interesting and informative is comparing their severity of gun control laws.
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« Reply #8 on: 02 23, 18, 04:18:31:AM » Reply

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Japan doesn't have any mass shootings.  They don't allow their citizens to have any guns.


How's that grab you.






BAN ALL GUNS.
August West
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« Reply #9 on: 02 23, 18, 05:03:47:AM » Reply

We`re number one and no one else even comes close.
  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-u-s-averages-nearly-one-mass-shooting-per-day-so-far-in-2017/
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« Reply #10 on: 02 23, 18, 05:44:11:AM » Reply

john lott is a right wing liar and bullshit statistician.  He actually wrote a book called "More guns, less crime."  Even a right winger should instinctively know how stupid that is. He cherry picks data, and picks years and groups of years that back up his agenda- to help the NRA lie about how goddamn out of control gun violence is in this country compared to others.  For instance, this report by this lying asshole, even though the article came out two days ago, covered the years 2009-2015-  why?  I would bet because if he didn't go back that far, it wouldn't show a lot of mass shooting deaths that occurred years ago in countries that he lyingly ranks higher, and if he does go back to 2015, it does not cover the many, many mass shooting deaths we have had since 2015.  One report that counts a mass shooting as 3 deaths, not including the shooter, since 2015, includes 2016, where there were 71 killed, including 49 shot to death in the Florida disco.  In 2017, 112 shot to death, including 58 in the Las Vegas shooting,  and more than 17 killed so far this year, as that was the body count in the recent school shooting. He also did not explain what he counts as a "mass shooting." My bet is he looked at the numbers and chose a minimum number that would be best to try and show his bias.  He gets paid mainly by right wing gun nuts and gun nut defenders to spew this bullshit, and his books are dumbfuck inaccurate gun nut friendly bullshit designed to be sold to stupid, gullible gun nuts.  He is a paid tool of the NRA, like almost all republican politicians, and a lying bag of shit. 




Mass shootings in the US: there have been 1,624 in 1,870 days
No other developed nation comes close to the rate of US gun violence. Americans own an estimated 265m guns, more than one gun for every adult.

Data from the Gun Violence Archive reveals there is a mass shooting – defined as four or more people shot in one incident, not including the shooter – nine out of every 10 days on average

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/02/america-mass-shootings-gun-violence


Inside the Mind of America's Favorite Gun Researcher - Pacific Standard
https://psmag.com/magazine/inside-the-mind-of-americas-favorite-gun-researcher
John Lott is a one-man pro-gun research machine whose work has been cited nearly 200 times by the National Rifle Association. The problem? Many of his peers have major misgivings about his methods.

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby's Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies ...
https://www.armedwithreason.com/shooting-down-the-gun-lobbys-favorite-academic-...
Dec 1, 2014 - John Lott's strategy, then, is the academic equivalent of “security through obscurity.” In response to criticism, Lott simply papers over his mistakes with even more perilously complex models and tendentious data analysis. This technique allows Lott to preordain a certain conclusion as truth (e.g. “More Guns, Less Crime...

More guns, less crime? Not exactly. - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/.../more-guns-less-crime-not-exactly/
Jul 29, 2014 - The theory has largely been fueled by a deeply contested 1997 paper by economists John Lott and David Mustard, who concluded that "concealed handguns are the most cost-effective method of reducing crime thus far analyzed by economists." If states without concealed-carry laws had them back in 1992, ..
chuck_curtis
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Let's go Brandon!


« Reply #11 on: 02 23, 18, 08:55:34:AM » Reply

So when it comes to facts, even youse find the "facts' youse want to find and only those.   We get it.  It's not about facts.  It's all about agenda.
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