DC Federal Court Ruled Carrying Guns In Public A 2nd amendment Right

[chuck_curtis]

How many bodies will it take?

How much are human rights worth?  Many brave men have died for them.

[1965hawks]

A well regulated militia, being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

____Amendment II, US Constitution



To: local5th, chuck_curtis, anchoragedan, duke_john, kensanIV, sine-qua-non, and pacifica

 Point out exactly where the Second Amendment affords the right of civilians to own or possess firearms, or to carry arms--concealed or openly.



 

[Local5th]

It came from the same place as separation of church and state hawk.

In this instance it was the SC that ruled it was an individual right.

[wvit1001]

they've also ruled that gun regulations are perfectly constitutional.    owning and carrying a gun is not an absolute right.

[chuck_curtis]

Point out exactly where the Second Amendment affords the right of civilians to own or possess firearms, or to carry arms--concealed or openly.

That's not the place to look for it, or find it.   It is found in the same place the right to breath, live, smile, frown, etc is found.

[warrenpees]

If there's an Injun uprising, THEN you fatfuck rednecks can bring out your guns... if you are "well-regulated".

[1965hawks]

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
__Amendment II, US Constitution


1965hawks: "Point out exactly where the Second Amendment affords the right of civilians to own or possess firearms for their private use, or to carry arms--either openly or concealed."

local5th: "It came from the same place as separation of Church and State, 1965hawks"

You're talking out your ass again, local5th. The Second Amendment has absolutely nothing to do with the Separation of Church and State.

chuck_curtis: "That's not the place to look for it, or find it."

You're absolutely correct, chuck_curtis! That's because, contrary to Scalia's judicial activism that gave us the unprecedented and illogical US Supreme Court opinion in District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), the Second Amendment has absolutely nothing to do with private ownership and use of firearms--even for self-defense-- or civilians carrying firearms, whether they are carried concealed or openly.

[Local5th]

You're talking out your ass again, local5th. The Second Amendment has absolutely nothing to do with the Separation of Church and State.

No they are not the same thing. But both came from an interruption of the constitution.

Damn you are dense.

[wvit1001]

there's nothing to interpret about the church thing chuck.   The Constitution is clear on that.

[Local5th]

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
__Amendment II, US Constitution

The subject of this sentence is “right,” namely, “the right of the people to keep and bear arms.”  The predicate (the action the subject is taking) is “shall not be infringed.”  “A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state” is a nominative absolute.  It has a noun, but no verb.  Grammatically speaking, it has no bearing on the meaning of the rest of the sentence.

https://selfeducatedconservative.wordpress.com/2nd-amendment/

[Local5th]

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
__Amendment II, US Constitution

A parallel sentence to illustrate this relationship: “The weather being especially fine that day, Henry elected to leave home without an umbrella.” Who is the subject of this sentence? The weather? The day? No, of course not. This is a sentence about someone named Henry (whom I just decided at random is a woman) and her choice to keep her umbrella home, AND NOTHING ELSE. The part about the weather being nice? That explains why she made her decision, AND NOTHING ELSE.


Same thing with the militia clause. It explains why the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, AND NOTHING ELSE.

https://www.nolanchart.com/article10507-the-bill-of-rights-and-teaching-it-wrong-html

[duke_john]

hawkiepoo doesn't understand English well, Local.  Your explanation was quite thorough, an should resolve any problems he has.  Don't expect a "thank you" from him, though.