Cost of border wall vs. illegal immigration!

[Truman62]

Yes, sensors under the wall, barbed wire, dogs, search lights, guard towers, machine guns and TANKS!

But keep it really, really cheap...

[wvit1001]

duke you should read the report before proceeding in ignorance.


To download a free PDF of The Economic and Fiscal Consequences of Immigration, please log in with your existing MyNAP account, create a free MyNAP account, or download as a guest.

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[D2D]

If Democrats cannot win on the facts they change definitions to make it look like the facts back them up!

Wvit, it still isn't the 1960s we have far better technology!

Are you saying illegals are so heavily armed that we need tanks?

If so, thing are far worse than I thought on our Southern border!

Immigration implies legal immigration not illegal immigration!

The fact the "report" makes no such distinction proves it isn't based on science but politics!

[wvit1001]

I thought you wanted to discuss the NAS report d2.   Now you're back to just making stuff up again.

[D2D]

You are more than welcome to prove me wrong but your link never makes any distinction between legal and illegal immigration!

Without that distinction any report is useless!

It pollutes and skews the facts!

[duke_john]

^^^^ See above ^^^^^

[wvit1001]

the report discusses immigration, both legal and illegal d2.  you should read it.

here's a part of the description of immigrants and their characteristics -


Annual flows of lawful permanent residents have increased. During the 1980s, just
under 600,000 immigrants were admitted legally (received green cards) each year;
after the 1990 Immigration Act took effect, legal admissions increased to just under
800,000 per year; since 2001, legal admissions have averaged just over 1 million per
year.

Estimates of the number of unauthorized immigrants in the United States roughly
doubled from about 5.7 million in 1995 to about 11.1 million in 2014. Gross inflows,
which had reached more than 800,000 annually by the first 5 years of the 21st century,
decreased dramatically after 2007; partly as a result, the unauthorized immigrant
population shrank by about 1 million over the next 2 years. Since 2009, the
unauthorized immigrant population has remained essentially constant, with 300,000-
400,000 new unauthorized immigrants arriving each year and about the same number
leaving.


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[wvit1001]

d2, you started this thread off with a description of the report from CIS, you seemed to like them telling you what the actual report said.   And yet you don't want to read the actual report for yourself, in fact now you've taken to arguing that it's not relevant.

you are now arguing against the very report you championed at the start of this thread.

do you see how illogical you are d2?

[D2D]

The use of the term "unauthorized immigrant" is a clear indication the "report" was created for and by Democrats!

That makes it entirely suspect at best!

[wvit1001]

so now you don't like the report?

[duke_john]

If it was anyone else, I'd say wvit just doesn't get it.  Considering it's wvit, he's just lying. 

[D2D]

Any report using politically correct language is biased!