Assault rifle and or Assault Weapons, which is which depends on

[wvit1001]

I've got one of those shotguns HK.  Not the short barreled one but the regular hunting shotgun.  I'd hate to see the pile of squirrels and rabbits that gun has gotten.

[1965hawks]

Local5th: The M-16 is not a military rifle, never has been. The military uses the the AR 15. [sic]


Wrong again, Local5th! The M16 rifle, officially designated Rifle, Caliber 5.56 mm, M16, is a United States military adaptation of the ArmaLite AR-15 rifle.  The M-16 is and always has been a military rifle. (What do you think the M stands for, Local5th?) And by the way, the M-16 has now been mostly replaced by the M-4, a shorter and lighter version of the M-16.

[D2D]

 

Local5th: The M-16 is not a military rifle, never has been. The military uses the the AR 15. [sic]


Wrong again, Local5th! The M16 rifle, officially designated Rifle, Caliber 5.56 mm, M16, is a United States military adaptation of the ArmaLite AR-15 rifle.  The M-16 is and always has been a military rifle. (What do you think the M stands for, Local5th?) And by the way, the M-16 has now been mostly replaced by the M-4, a shorter and lighter version of the M-16.

Wow, 1965hawks gets it right for once!

Still doesn't alter the fact that assault rifles/weapons are by definition selective fire not strictly semi-automatic!

[HK91-762mm]

We are arguing about What gun is legal or not when we need to study the fact the Gun is the AGENDA !

As Per the Democrap play book party platform ==>


On Guns, the Contrast between Party Platforms is Stark!!!




With both the Republican National Convention (RNC) and the Democratic National Convention (DNC) now behind us, the gap between the Democratic and Republican party line on guns has become even more stark. A brief comparison of the party platforms illustrates the divide.
Republicans continue to believe government should “acknowledge, support, and defend the law-abiding citizen’s God-given right of self-defense,” but Democrats couldn’t disagree more. Democratic National Committee member Bonnie Schaefer embodied the new Democratic line on Second Amendment issues when she said, “I really don’t personally think anyone should have a gun..


 

• We will expand and strengthen background checks and close dangerous loopholes in our current laws;
• Repeal the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) to revoke the dangerous legal immunity protections gun makers and sellers now enjoy;
• Keep weapons of war—such as assault weapons and large capacity ammunition magazines (LCAM’s)—off our streets;
• We will fight back against attempts to make it harder for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to revoke federal licenses from law breaking gun dealers,
• Ensure guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists, intimate partner abusers, other violent criminals, and those with severe mental health issues;
• There is insufficient research on effective gun prevention policies, which is why the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention must have the resources it needs to study gun violence as a public health issue..

Republican ->

 

• We uphold the right of individuals to keep and bear arms, a right which antedated the Constitution and was solemnly confirmed by the Second Amendment.
• We acknowledge, support, and defend the law-abiding citizen’s God-given right of self-defense.
• We call for the protection of such fundamental individual rights recognized in the Supreme Court’s decisions in District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago affirming that right, and we recognize the individual responsibility to safely use and store firearms. This also includes the right to obtain and store ammunition without registration.
• We support the fundamental right to self-defense wherever a law-abiding citizen has a legal right to be, and we support federal legislation that would expand the exercise of that right by allowing those with state-issued carry permits to carry firearms in any state that issues such permits to its own residents. Gun ownership is responsible citizenship, enabling Americans to defend their homes and communities.
• We condemn frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers and oppose federal licensing or registration of law-abiding gun owners.
• We oppose legislation that is intended to restrict our Second Amendment rights by limiting the capacity of clips or magazines or otherwise restoring the ill-considered Clinton gun ban.
• We condemn the reckless actions associated with the operation known as “Fast and Furious,” conducted by the Department of Justice, which resulted in the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent and others on both sides of the border. We applaud the Members of the U.S. House of Representatives in holding the current Administration’s Attorney General in contempt of Congress for his refusal to cooperate with their investigation into that debacle.
• We oppose the improper collection of firearms sales information in the four southern border states, which was imposed without congressional authority.

[Local5th]

Wrong again, Local5th! The M16 rifle, officially designated Rifle, Caliber 5.56 mm, M16, is a United States military adaptation of the ArmaLite AR-15 rifle.  The M-16 is and always has been a military rifle. (What do you think the M stands for, Local5th?) And by the way, the M-16 has now been mostly replaced by the M-4, a shorter and lighter version of the M-16.

I stand corrected. M defines a military rifle.


A selective-fire rifle chambered for a cartridge of intermediate power defines a military assault rifle too.

[HK91-762mm]

AR -15's have been around since 1964 and Only since the late 80's have libtards tried to take away our right to own scary looking guns !!

  No wonder we got fed up and went out and voted !!  For TRUMP !!!  I Know I did --And we defeated the BAD WOMAN !

[1965hawks]

"Opponents of a ban on the kinds of military-style weapons often used in spree killings – most recently in San Bernardino – often say that denying civilians the right to own such guns would violate their Second Amendment rights."

https://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/12/11/justice-scalias-gun-control-argument/?_r=0

[caserio1]

what a shallow discussion

what to call a gun

right wingers have very little of importance in their very dull lives

[1965hawks]

To: HK91-762mm

in re: Reply #14

Whenever those who can't deal with the challenge to their cherished and stubbornly-held beliefs about the Secondnd Amendment feel "out of ammo," the dreary and predictable tactic is to go to some pro-gun site, where they can conveniently cut & paste the same debunked list of so-called Founders' Quotes that are copied from site to site, from the NRA on down, but with nary any attempt to determine which are real quotes, which are accurate quotes, which quotes are taken out of context, and quotes which even mean what they think they mean.


Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences [sic] and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."

Attributed to George Washington, first President of the United States

But according to the Mt. Vernon library, the "liberty's teeth" quote does not show up in any of Washington's writing, nor does any closely related quote." Wikiquote notes that even pro-gun sites recognize the quote as a whole is "palpably bogus" as well.

To be continued.

[1965hawks]

To: HK91-762mm, Local5t, D2D, Local5th, Baretta19, and don't-blameme

in re: Assault Rifles and Doctors

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/sanity-from-the-courts-on-gun-control-in-a-time-of-trump

[1965hawks]

: I stand corrected. M defines a military rifle, and a selective-fire [sic] rifle, chambered for a cartridge of intermediate power, defines a military assault rifle too.

That's not exactly true, Local5th A rifle equipped with a select-fire switch, which is not the only definition of an assault rifle. An assault rifle is defined as being either an automatic or semiautomatic weapon. A rifle that's not equipped with a select-fire switch and incapable of automatic fire does not prevent it from being defined as an assault rifle. Yes. You stand corrected. Now sit down and shut the fuck up!

[Local5th]

An assault rifle is defined as being either an automatic or semiautomatic weapon.

Yes. An assault rifle can be either or.