Muslims turn down Governors offer of another location.

[mudslinger]

They feel the closer to ground Zero the bigger the tribute to the 19 Muslims that died there.   Mosque Leaders Rebuff N.Y. Gov's Offer to Mediate Mosque Controversy

[lakitss]

I read today that a greek orthodox church that was leveled on 9-11 will not be rebuilt. Some have been trying for years to replace it.
Can't have that but a brand new symbol of Islamic supremacy is surely to get built.
 
Fuck New York's mayor and anyone who supports this poke in the eye.

[captain_kook]

I read today that a greek orthodox church that was leveled on 9-11 will not be rebuilt.
 
you read a LIE
 
of course you believe it

[wmdn_bs]

I read today that a greek orthodox church that was leveled on 9-11 will not be rebuilt.

you read a LIE

of course you believe it

I second that. There is no doubt another lie is being thrown out by the right. The inference that the proposed Mosque is to be built ON the site of the 9/11 attack is a lie. If the church was ON the site, it should not be rebuilt there either. If it was located off the site, and it complies with state and local building codes, of course I agree it should be allowed.

[captain_kook]

The Church itself hasn't exactly helped with their situation:

Published: March 18, 2009
NY Times
 
 
The fate of the church, a narrow whitewashed building that was crushed in the attack on the World Trade Center, was supposed to have been settled eight months ago, with a tentative agreement in which the church would swap its land for a grander church building on a larger parcel nearby, with a $20 million subsidy from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. This would have allowed work to begin at the south end of the site.
 
But the two sides never came to final terms. After months of negotiations, the Port Authority, which is overseeing reconstruction at ground zero, ended its talks with the church on Monday, saying that the church had sought increasingly costly concessions.
 
 
Complaints, of course, abound on both sides.
 
 
The authority now says that St. Nicholas is free to rebuild the church on its own parcel at 155 Cedar Street, just east of West Street. The authority will, in turn, use eminent domain to get control of the land beneath that parcel so it can move ahead with building foundation walls and a bomb-screening center for trucks, buses and cars entering the area.
 
 
“We made an extraordinarily generous offer to resolve this issue and spent eight months trying to finalize that offer, and the church wanted even more on top of that,” said Stephen Sigmund, a spokesman for the Port Authority. “They have now given us no choice but to move on to ensure the site is not delayed. The church continues to have the right to rebuild at their original site, and we will pay fair market value for the underground space beneath that building.”
 
 
 
 
Last July, the Port Authority and the Greek Orthodox Church announced a tentative plan to rebuild the church just east of its original site, at Liberty and Greenwich Streets. The authority agreed to provide the church with land for a 24,000-square-foot house of worship, far larger than the original, and $20 million. Since the church would be built in a park over the bomb-screening center, the authority also agreed to pay up to $40 million for a blast-proof platform and foundation.
 
 
In recent negotiations, the authority cut the size of the church slightly and told church officials that its dome could not rise higher than the trade center memorial.
 
 
The church, in turn, wanted the right to review plans for both the garage with the bomb-screening center and the park, something the authority was unwilling to provide. More important, authority officials said, the church wanted the $20 million up front, rather than in stages. Officials said they feared that the church, which has raised about $2 million for its new building, would come back to the authority for more.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/19/nyregion/19church.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

[captain_kook]

the latest:
 

August 13, 2010

Mayor Bloomberg: Deal To Rebuild Greek Orthodox Church Near Ground Zero May Be Near »
By Celeste Katz

A caller to Mayor Bloomberg's weekly radio appearance with WOR's John Gambling posed a question NY-1 congressional hopeful George Demos has been pushing for weeks: "Good morning. I'd like to know why nothing has been done to rebuild St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church down at Ground Zero."
 
 
Republican Demos is a former Securities and Exchange Commission attorney who hopes to take on incumbent Democratic Rep. Tim Bishop.
 
 
He has set himself somewhat apart from the cacophony of objections to the proposed Park51 mosque and Islamic center by bringing up the issue of the church, which was crushed by the falling South Tower on Sept. 11.
 
 
Demos has blamed the Port Authority for the slow pace of the reconstruction.
 
 
Said Bloomberg in answer to this morning's caller:
 
"It's been a bone of contention [between] the church and the Port Authority. And I've gotten involved mainly because the archbishop lives directly across the street from me, and he comes out with his staff and we chit-chat. He doesn't come over to borrow a cup of coffee, but that's okay. And I think they're very close [to] working with the Port Authority to find a location down there.
 
There was one, I think the church wanted it, but it didn't fit in with the Port Authority plans because it would have interfered with other things, but there will be a new church built down there. And Chris Ward, the executive director of the Port Authority, I know is working with the Greek Orthodox Church to try to find some ways to get this done."
 
Demos, who has largely been written about less than his GOP rivals, Chris Cox and Randy Altschuler, has gotten some media coverage out of the issue -- although not all of it has been positive.
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[lluke47]

The post wasn't about the Greek Church you loons, it is about the in your face muslim terrorist supporting trash...that you liberals support but not 46% of democrates who do not support the building of this hate teaching building for the terrorist..
 
In Nov this year you loons are going to suffer a great defeat....people, even 46% of the democrates are going to vote against you loons who give aid and comfort to our enemies...
 
Those mosque remind me of port-a-lets..

[captain_kook]

luke don't you read threads before you post in them?

[captain_kook]

There are roughly 38,000 Muslims living in lower Manhattan.
 
Why should they accept an offer - which Patterson really can't deliver on - to relocate AWAY from their congregation?
 
 
 

[garfield51]

If you look at google earth the proposed building ( not a mosque ) is wanted to be built  several blocks from ground zero. Also another  orthodox  church ( one of the oldest in the USA) is still standing near ground zero. The same for a catholic church. This is right wing Sarah dada bs at it's best! And this was on the today show with Mat lauder who also showed it on google earth!

[lluke47]

This is JMHO but I believe the terrorist and their liberal friends who want to build this mosque have two choices, either move it to someplace else or it will not be built...
 
This is not a constitutional issue to Americans, it is about respect for those that died in the cowardly attack by cowards who pretend to be people...
 
Are you liberals too dense to understand that...?

[captain_kook]

you STUPID FUCK
 
this COMMUNITY CENTER has nothing to do with 9-11
 
NOTHING