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daw_jr
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« on: 08 17, 10, 03:09:02:PM » Reply

To fight to protect our constitution. Isn't that what sarah palin says all the time. "She's fighting to protect our constitution." Yeah, by having a reality show.

So, they're good enough to offer their lives, but the constitution isn't really meant for them. Uncle Sam was "just kidding".

Marine Corps' First Islamic Prayer Center Dedicated

By Samantha L. Quigley
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, June 7, 2006 – Calling freedom of religion a principal right in "a nation of people from all races and creeds who believe in liberty and freedom," Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England helped the Marine Corps dedicated its first Islamic prayer center here yesterday.

England offered his congratulations to the Corps and the leadership of Quantico and the chaplain corps for seeing the need for the center, and working to establish it.

The Navy has two Islamic facilities; however, neither is a dedicated facility similar to the one at Quantico, a Defense Department official said. The Air Force has similar centers at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio and Ramstein Air Base, Germany, according to Air Force public affairs officials. Army information was not available.

Quantico is considered the crossroads of the Marine Corps. The prayer center will help educate many about the Islamic faith while it serves the Islamic community here, England said. Quantico is host to a mixture of U.S. and foreign servicemembers, as well as civilians, Gen. Michael Hagee, commandant of the Marine Corps, said.

"This Islamic prayer center, the first of its kind in the Marine Corps, is really an extension or our ethos, (the) ethos that we take care of one another," Hagee said. "It is going to provide our Muslim Marines and their families, Muslim Department of Defense civilians and Muslim international military personnel serving with us a proper place for religious services."

Spiritual devotion is an important component of the profession of arms, as well as important element in quality of life, Hagee said. He added that events like the dedication of the prayer center strengthen the ties that bind.

"I believe that we all share some very important basic values; the respect for human life, the respect for truth and the respect for personal property," he said.

Rear Adm. Louis Iasiello, chief of Navy chaplains, lent his support to the establishment of the center with a story of Marines and local Iraqi leaders who had gathered in a train terminal south of Baghdad. A Navy chaplain offered a prayer that, "Betrayed neither himself, nor his country, nor his God," Iasiello said. In fact, the prayer served as an icon of religious respect that united the two groups.

"Today ... religious respect takes the form of a center, an Islamic center established to afford those of the Muslim faith the opportunity to pray and worship God in a manner that honors and respects their religious heritage," he said.

Twenty-four of the 426 Muslim Marines currently serving are stationed at Quantico. This center is a welcome haven for them, Lance Cpl. Mehreena Ahmad said.

"There haven't been a lot of centers to pray at, but this one's solely dedicated to us," she said. "So, we're just happy that we have a place."
Staff Sgt. Madyun Shahid echoed her sentiment. "The Marine Corps is recognizing diversity in the Marine Corps, and I'm just happy to have a place ... to go worship."

The prayer center, which was established in an existing structure on the base, is only temporary until an extension to the existing Marine Memorial Chapel is complete. Ground-breaking for the extension is scheduled for fall, and completion is expected in 2008.

Before touring the center with Hagee and Navy Lt. Saiful Islam, Headquarters and Service Battalion chaplain, England acknowledged the long history of Muslim servicemembers defending the United States.

"Their service continues a long and noble tradition," England said. "Muslim-Americans served in the ships of our Navy and in the U.S. Army in World War I, World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Somalia, Grenada, Panama and the 1991 Gulf War."

Some of those veterans of past conflicts were present for the dedication. England acknowledged Army Sgt. Nazeem Abdul Hakeem who fought on the beaches of Normandy in World War II, Air Force Sgt. Gath Noor Kas-Heef, who served during the Korean War, and Army Maj. Christopher Bell who served at Cam Ron Bay in Vietnam.

Also present was Army Sgt. 1st Class Mujaheed Muhammed, who was a Korean War prisoner of war. Captured by Communist forces while assigned to the 15th Infantry's reconnaissance patrol, he was held from 1952 through 1954.

"Your example of service continues today with the thousands of Muslim Americans in uniform," England said, recognizing the more than 4,000 Muslims who serve. "These men and women represent the best of our nation." http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=16101
caserio1
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« Reply #1 on: 08 17, 10, 03:12:10:PM » Reply

the right ain't interested in facts   they have glenn beck
julianne
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« Reply #2 on: 08 17, 10, 03:16:06:PM » Reply

As I just posted on the thread about all faiths having died on 9/11....
 
 
What's next on the agenda of those who express so much disdain for Muslims........digging up the graves of the Muslims who are buried at the hallowed ground in Arlington National Cemetary who died in service to this great country and throwing their bodies in garbage dumps?
willam
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« Reply #3 on: 08 17, 10, 03:28:21:PM » Reply

Daw - this ain't about what you are trying to suggest. But if you WANT to go there about Muslims in the U.S. Military try talking honestly and openly about Major Hassan and HIS own reign of terror and mass murder inside a military installment just recently. Against active duty U.S. Military. And of our own U.S. miltary surreally tolerating his open existence and hatred for his country - because they were passively disinterested in outting him. Under the Command of President Obama - during war time.  Try going there if you want to make some kind of point or not.
 
Otherwise don't go there. My ancestors were German and were active in fighting AGAINST Germany in World War II - and were Christian to boot - going full bore against Hitler and any Christian following him that were intent on harming Europe's Jewish population simply and solely because they were Jewish. 
 
Don't go there, dude....
julianne
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« Reply #4 on: 08 17, 10, 03:33:37:PM » Reply

http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=jN5C6lCm8ic
 
 
 
This is the picture that Colin Powell spoke about in that video.......
 
 
 
daw_jr
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« Reply #5 on: 08 17, 10, 03:35:14:PM » Reply

What's next on the agenda of those who express so much disdain for Muslims........digging up the graves of the Muslims who are buried at the hallowed ground in Arlington National Cemetary who died in service to this great country and throwing their bodies in garbage dumps?

Julianne, I have NO doubt there are some twisted people who would probably do just that and have not one iota of guilt doing it.

I say this a lot "They think God loves them best", but what else could possibly give people the feeling that they can express their intolerance so loudly and proudly and think there is some reason that excuses their need, desire, want, necessity to show intolerance. In their minds, it's OK.

They feel no guilt because they think they're right. And what makes them feel they're right in their exclusion, other than to feel they're superior.
julianne
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« Reply #6 on: 08 17, 10, 04:12:47:PM » Reply

Daw,
 
The bottom line is that "American" Muslims did not attack this country on 9/11 and they do not deserve to be used as scapegoats for political gain or fodder for bigots like many of the extreme far right wingers on this board.
daw_jr
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« Reply #7 on: 08 17, 10, 04:18:09:PM » Reply

because they were passively disinterested in outting him. Under the Command of President Obama - during war time.  Try going there if you want to make some kind of point or not.

io, you're completely misinformed and, as usual, you're full of it. But I'm certain little things like facts won't stop you from continuing to repeat this fallacy because it fits so nicely in your warped mind of trying to destroy President Obama by any means necessary, even if it involves telling lies to do it.


The investigation was done in December, 2008 and dismissed.



Last December, the surveillance of Anwar al-Awlaki, a radical Yemeni-American cleric accused by the U.S. of having ties to al-Qaeda, revealed that he had received between 10 and 20 e-mails from Hasan. But the fact that a U.S. military officer was communicating with a Yemen-based cleric who openly supports jihadist causes did not prompt the bureau to open an investigation into Hasan's activities.
(See pictures of the Fort Hood memorial service.)


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1937574,00.html#ixzz0wtcHAJbu
daw_jr
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« Reply #8 on: 08 17, 10, 04:24:46:PM » Reply

Julianne, I honestly believe that if limbaugh or beck said the US Postal service was infiltrated by Muslims, within one week, without any factual informattion at all, these people would be refusing to accept their mail.

I honestly believe these people are 1. so eager to find the worst in people, especially if it's not white, anglo/saxon, protestrant or straight people

2. are so easily duped.

And I also believe that if republicans couldn't sell fear, they'd never control any part of the federal government again.
julianne
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« Reply #9 on: 08 17, 10, 05:16:28:PM » Reply

9/11 Families Group Announces Support for Islamic Cultural Center in Lower Manhattan

 
New York – Today, September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, a nationwide group founded by family members of those killed on 9/11 issued the following statement, which may be attributed to their spokesperson, Donna Marsh O’Connor:
 
September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows strongly supports efforts to bring an Islamic Cultural Center to lower Manhattan, near the Ground Zero site. We believe that welcoming the Center, which is intended to promote interfaith tolerance and respect, is consistent with fundamental American values of freedom and justice for all.
 
We believe, too, that this building will serve as an emblem for the rest of the world that Americans stand against violence, intolerance and overt acts of racism and that we recognize that the evil acts of a few must never damn the innocent.
 
To arrange an interview with a member of September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, please contact David Lerner or Shonna Carter, Riptide Communications, 212-260-5000 (dlerner@riptideonline.com or shonnac@riptideonline.com ).
 
 
http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/article.php?id=977
willam
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« Reply #10 on: 08 17, 10, 05:37:42:PM » Reply

Daw, I honestly believe you are refusing to respond to my suggestion Major Hassan - loyal Muslim that he was in high rank in our active duty military. And very real treasonous terrorist in an officer's uniform that he turned out to be - who mass murdered Amercan active duty while calling out to his religion as justification for doing so.
 
And until we honestly talk about how wrong it is for ANY Muslim to kill others in the name of their religion (which they are very really capable of doing) or to complicitly try to revise history to cover up the terrorist action of others under Obama's administion a mosque/"community center" constructed in New York City is the least of our nation's worries.
 
But then you probably think Major Hassan had a right to do what he did to his fellow active duty military soldiers inside our country. As he pleased.
 
Separate out the cream from the fat, dude. You cannot justify all of them - and it is high time - just as the Christians were required to do post WWII to call HATE and terrorism and genocide what it is. An wrongful agendas of terrorism against innocents, too.
 
Sheez. You dems/dums are sumthun else.
caserio1
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« Reply #11 on: 08 17, 10, 05:57:09:PM » Reply

maybe she would answer you if you made sense
 
why do you even suggest this hassan guy is anybody here's hero ?
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