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willam
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« Reply #12 on: 08 17, 10, 02:09:19:PM » Reply

Kook - I will take that as a mutually lucid acknowledgement that you and I -  who truly do not have to rely on our President or the internet to form an opinion on any of this as we both LIVED through 9/11 - understand and appreciate it all.
 
I am hopeful that a constructive and real conversation will commence out of this within the Muslim population - especially all peaceful Muslims - as to where to go from here. 
As a mosque/morphed into a "community center" was the last thing needed or required on sacred ground surrounding ground zero.
 
But then they knew so - intellectually. As does President Obama. Revisionist historians like Obama just expect to take the very real lessons learned at Auschwitz and spit on them - all. Apparently.
 
Too bad most especially for better deserving Muslims caught in the middle of all of this politicized crapola. But then one can always hope persons of Muslim following stand up to those withing their faith polluting it right now and begin that honest conversation - one mosque at a time - that is perhaps long overdue.
As all Christians in Europe all of those years during WWII should have been doing too. Post WWII too.
 
Capt - to deny that Catholics and Protestants worked the train lines heading into Auschwitz, worked the ovens that cremated Jews during World War II solely because those persons were Jewish, is blasphemy on your part. They did. We all know so. And we need to learn from all of that - and respect the truth in all of it.
 
And never repeat any of it. And do the same in very real respect, reverence and homage to those terroristically targetted and cruelly killed on 9/11 at ground zero in our country by persons of a different faith and religious persuasion. Forever.
 
 
captain_kook
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« Reply #13 on: 08 17, 10, 02:13:17:PM » Reply

I am hopeful that a constructive and real conversation will commence out of this within the Muslim population - especially all peaceful Muslims - as to where to go from here. 

 
In the 1930s a lot of European Jews who saw fascists and white supremacists taking political power had the same kinds of conversations.
 
 
willam
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« Reply #14 on: 08 17, 10, 02:43:50:PM » Reply

Capt. if you were attempting to lower yourself and justify cruel genocide by one targetted religious group by another, I guess you did so p-  in your own mind only. Without explaining, of course, how it was Jewish children, the disabled, the mentally infirm, the elderly, all who believed in Judaism (including Christians who attempted to stand up to those Christians who CHOSE to align themselves with evil intending Adolph Hitler) were a convenient and cruel targettted group by Nazi followers who were practicing Christians and Catholics.
 
Wow. That's all one can say in response to your comment.
 
You revisionist progressives will go to any length. I now fully believe so...wow.
captain_kook
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« Reply #15 on: 08 17, 10, 03:24:29:PM » Reply

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julianne
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« Reply #16 on: 08 17, 10, 05:14:46:PM » Reply

9/11 Families Group Announces Support for Islamic Cultural Center in Lower Manhattan
 
 
New York – Today, September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, a nationwide group founded by family members of those killed on 9/11 issued the following statement, which may be attributed to their spokesperson, Donna Marsh O’Connor:
September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows strongly supports efforts to bring an Islamic Cultural Center to lower Manhattan, near the Ground Zero site. We believe that welcoming the Center, which is intended to promote interfaith tolerance and respect, is consistent with fundamental American values of freedom and justice for all.
We believe, too, that this building will serve as an emblem for the rest of the world that Americans stand against violence, intolerance and overt acts of racism and that we recognize that the evil acts of a few must never damn the innocent.
To arrange an interview with a member of September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, please contact David Lerner or Shonna Carter, Riptide Communications, 212-260-5000 (dlerner@riptideonline.com or shonnac@riptideonline.com ).
 
 
http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/article.php?id=977
 
willam
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« Reply #17 on: 08 17, 10, 06:52:15:PM » Reply

And the point of this link is what exactly? They don't represent all Americans or all Muslims. So what's the point?
 
Come on, progressives. You have got to be kidding with the (form a organization and call it something and that justifies a twisted agenda) raionale for allowing something to occur - as a "community center" where bouncing balls of peace only and always are served up. Or proposed to be served up.
 
Goodness.... couldn't all Muslims in this country just get together and issue a declaration against terrorism overseas, domestically, under any reason or rationale - and quit dumping on the U.S. as any form of bad guy?
 
Enough already. It's a stupid is as stupid does BAD idea - under any name or organizations proposed support. BAD.
 
Time for progressive revisionists to tell Obama as much. Stupid president of ours.
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