Justice Department Sues North Carolina Over Its Anti-Transgender Law

[sine-qua-non]

Except that race and perversion/mental condition are two different things!

[wvit1001]

discrimination isn't though.

[Dan]

sounds just like the arguments you heard from our racist daddies when integration was the topic.

So you think there shouldn't be separate bathrooms for men and women?  Men and women should have to share bathrooms?  Why do you take that position, Vit?  Don't you believe in modesty and privacy?

[sine-qua-non]

Discrimination is not it either!

[Dan]

Vit is saying transgenderism is not the issue at all.  He's saying men should be allowed to use whatever bathroom they want.  And if you object to men using women's bathrooms, you're a bigot.

I wonder if black people agree with Wvit's equating their struggle against racism to perverted men's struggle to get into the women's toilet?

[wvit1001]

I don't see any problem with transgender people using whatever bathroom the feel comfortable with.  We already had laws concerning assault, peeping, lewd conduct, etc.

[Dan]

I don't see any problem with transgender people using whatever bathroom the feel comfortable with.

How do you prove you're transgendered and not just some pervert?  There's no way to enforce it , so you would have to open it to everyone.  Men would have to be allowed to use the women's room.

We already had laws concerning assault, peeping, lewd conduct, etc.

I'm not concerned about that.  My concern is privacy and modesty.  Why should women have to endure this invasion into their privacy?  What about THEIR feelings?

Wvit,

Do you support eliminating sex signs on bathroom/ locker room doors?  That is anyone can use whatever bathroom/ locker room they like?  Is the women's club "Curves" discriminating against men and should be forced to allow men to join, and share the locker rooms with the female members?

[wvit1001]

transgender people have been using whatever bathroom they felt comfortable with up to now and I haven't heard any complaints about privacy.

[Dan]

transgender people have been using whatever bathroom they felt comfortable with up to now and I haven't heard any complaints about privacy.

It has nothing to do with transgendered people.

You're arguing that all people (tranny or not) should be allowed to use whatever bathroom they like.  Do you really support that?  You really think normal men should be allowed to use the ladies' room?  You really think all sex signs should be removed from bathroom/ locker room doors?

Let's get down the core issue here.  Get focused!

[wvit1001]

are you now planning on using the ladies room dan?  "normal" people will just continue to do what they've always done.

[JigSaw-II]

If a transgender male uses the Ladies room, he/she will have to use a stall. (ladies room only have stalls)  And if a transgender female uses the men room she/he will also have to use the stall. ( kind of hard for a she/he to sit on a urinal )  So what difference does it make which restroom they use?  They will have their privacy.  Until a transgender start molesting others, it's a non-issue...

[Dan]

are you now planning on using the ladies room dan?

Isn't it interesting that Wvit is squirming so hard to avoid answering the core question?  Why do you think he is afraid to answer?

Wvit is arguing that there shouldn't be a women's room or a men's room.  He argues that we should all share, that there should be no discrimination based on sex.

That is what he is arguing, but he is too ashamed to admit it.