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dont-blameme
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« Reply #12 on: 03 29, 16, 08:19:45:AM » Reply

 You hawks sound like the uneducated hate fill negro that hates anything and everything connected to America, by the way now we also know you're an Islamic nut job to boot.
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« Reply #13 on: 03 29, 16, 08:27:51:AM » Reply

if you foolish morons knew anything about the separation of church and state as specified in the Constitution, you would know hawks is right, if you also had an IQ and could read above a 4th grade level.  what you dumbfucks want is for this country to be more like muslim countries, you assholes.  try to think. 


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« Reply #14 on: 03 29, 16, 08:46:08:AM » Reply

As everyone with even a modicum of understanding of the Constitution knows, the term “separation of church and state” appears nowhere in the Constitution.   The metaphor of a “wall of separation” comes from a letter President Thomas Jefferson penned to a group of Baptists in Danbury, Connecticut—a dozen years after the Constitution and Bill of Rights were ratified. The phrase is not mentioned in the Constitution’s text or in any of the debates leading to its ratification.

What the Constitution’s First Amendment does say is that government shall make no law “respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” It is well to attend to the actual words of the Constitution.

Nowhere is this more important than with the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment: forbidding an official establishment of religion is something quite different from the much looser, imprecise term “separation of church and state.” The Constitution only forbids government sponsorship and compulsion of religious exercise by individual citizens. It does not require hermetic “separation”—implying exclusion—of religion and religious persons from public affairs of state.

The Supreme Court has abandoned entirely the misleading metaphor “separation of church and state.”


http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2010/10/1920/


James Madison, 1789-JUN-7 "The Civil Rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, nor on any pretext infringed. No state shall violate the equal rights of conscience."
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« Reply #15 on: 03 29, 16, 11:08:24:AM » Reply

the actual separation of church and state is clearly, unambiguously CLEARLY STATED IN THE CONSTITUTION, ALONG WITH OTHER STATEMENTS MADE BY THE FOUNDERS WHERE THEY CLEARLY SAID SO AS WELL.  these guys actually did know how to write.  if they wanted the state to be inferior to the whelms of some religion or another, and not clearly superior to any religious views, they could have clearly stated so.  just like you clownish oafs claim you want to be strict originalists, in real life you do not.  have someone you trust who has gotten his college degree in Remedial English read this...then explain it to you using diagrams, cartoons and a series of grunts and clicks, since you apparently cannot grasp basic English. 

The First Amendment-

Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


if the founding fathers had not wanted to separate religion from government, they would never have written THE FIRST AMENDMENT...DUH...
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« Reply #16 on: 03 29, 16, 11:11:17:AM » Reply

no matter how the right tries

their religious beliefs stay out of the mainstream
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« Reply #17 on: 03 29, 16, 11:37:36:AM » Reply

just lazy, gullible sheep dog herd mentality exhibited by teabaggers who actually believe the Founding Fathers did not really want our country to be secular....read these comments, most of them written BEFORE THE CONSTITUTION WAS RATIFIED....if you can. 


The 1796 Treaty with Tripoli states that the United States was "not in any sense founded on the Christian religion". This was not an idle statement meant to satisfy muslims-- they believed it and meant it. This treaty was written under the presidency of George Washington and signed under the presidency of John Adams.
   
from James Madison- the Chief Architect of the Constitution (all written before the Constitution was ratified)-

"It may not be easy, in every possible case, to trace the line of separation between the rights of religion and the Civil authority with such distinctness as to avoid collisions and doubts on unessential points.  The tendency to unsurpastion on one side or the other, or to a corrupting coalition or alliance between them, will be best guarded agst. by an entire abstinence of the Gov't from interfence in any way whatsoever, beyond the necessity of preserving public order, and protecting each sect agst. trespasses on its legal rights by others." 1784 James Madison
         
"What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society?  In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people.  Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries.  A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not."       - 1785


"Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation.  During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial.  What has been its fruits?  More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."    - 1785


John Adams  The second president of the United States was John Adams, lawyer and diplomat. Adams' public career lasted more than 35 years. He was second only to George Washington in making a place for the young United States among the nations of the world. In his devotion to the country he was second to none
Excerpted from Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia Deluxe, Copyright © 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997 The Learning Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

"As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation.  But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?"    -letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816
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« Reply #18 on: 03 29, 16, 11:38:51:AM » Reply

"The priesthood have, in all ancient nations, nearly monopolized learning.  And ever since the Reformation, when or where has existed a Protestant or dissenting sect who would tolerate A FREE INQUIRY?  The blackest billingsgate, the most ungentlemanly insolence, the most yahooish brutality, is patiently endured, countenanced, propagated, and applauded.  But touch a solemn truth in collision with a dogma of a sect, though capable of the clearest proof, and you will find you have disturbed a nest, and the hornets will swarm about your eyes and hand, and fly into your face and eyes."
                  - letter to John Taylor

               
"The question before the human race is, whether the God of Nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?"
             

"Can a free government possibly exist with the Roman Catholic religion?"    -letter to Thomas Jefferson

"God is an essence that we know nothing of.  Until this awful blasphemy is got rid of, there will never be any liberal science in the world."
          
". . . Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind."
         
"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there  were no religion in it."

Thomas Jefferson:

The most famous ‘out of context’ religious quote of Thomas Jefferson is to be found in the Jefferson Memorial in Washington D.C. Around the rotunda of the Jefferson Memorial, in large gold letters, is the quote: “I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD, ETERNAL HOSTILITY AGAINST EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN.” The quote was taken, completely out of context from a letter that Jefferson wrote to Dr. Benjamin Rush September 23, 1800. The quote put in its original context says just the opposite of the pious sentiment it is made to say. In his letter to Dr. Rush Jefferson is talking about the Christian clergy who were working against his being elected President by saying Jefferson was an infidel. The complete quote says: “The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their (the Christian clergy) hopes, and they believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” So we see that in his letter Jefferson is saying that the “tyranny over the mind of man” that he is opposed to are the schemes of the Christian clergy, and the god he is referring to is the god of Deism, not the god of the Christians.
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« Reply #19 on: 03 29, 16, 12:24:35:PM » Reply

As everyone with even a modicum of understanding of the Constitution knows, the term “separation of church and state” appears nowhere in the Constitution.   The metaphor of a “wall of separation” comes from a letter President Thomas Jefferson penned to a group of Baptists in Danbury, Connecticut—a dozen years after the Constitution and Bill of Rights were ratified. The phrase is not mentioned in the Constitution’s text or in any of the debates leading to its ratification.

What the Constitution’s First Amendment does say is that government shall make no law “respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” It is well to attend to the actual words of the Constitution.

Nowhere is this more important than with the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment: forbidding an official establishment of religion is something quite different from the much looser, imprecise term “separation of church and state.” The Constitution only forbids government sponsorship and compulsion of religious exercise by individual citizens. It does not require hermetic “separation”—implying exclusion—of religion and religious persons from public affairs of state.

The Supreme Court has abandoned entirely the misleading metaphor “separation of church and state.”


http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2010/10/1920/
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« Reply #20 on: 03 29, 16, 12:59:37:PM » Reply

Boy, some people need to take a chill pill...
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« Reply #21 on: 03 29, 16, 02:15:27:PM » Reply

The White House has a Easter Egg hunt. In rural areas churches are used to vote. And government pays churches to sponsor illegals and refugees.

You separation of church and state people are selective as hell when it comes to doing your job.


                                                                                                                                       
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« Reply #22 on: 03 29, 16, 02:17:50:PM » Reply

Watch out everyone...the volcano known as snott_free will blow soon...

The unhinging has begun.

Scott, if the Muslims were that offended, I would think they would just not go...
scott_free
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« Reply #23 on: 03 29, 16, 02:54:02:PM » Reply

i already said that, stupid.  can you folks even read?  it is illegal for a public school to promote any religious observance but only even the most clueless teabaggers believe the Easter bunny is a religious symbol!!  like the ones arguing stupid ass points like jerkwater who believes we do not live in a secular nation governed by laws, not by goofy religious interpretations of any certain or group of religions.  what a fucking idiot. 
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