Oregon Patriots Now Treasonous Dogs!

[Truman62]

LaVoy Finicum, a 54-year-old Arizona rancher and one of the group’s leaders, says the siege will continue until the federal government cedes control of the 187,000-acre refuge to Harney County.

“It needs to be very clear that these buildings will never, ever return to the federal government,” says Finicum.

Looks like treason, sounds like treason, MUST be treason. 
If not for the buildings, relics and records, I would say just make it a bomb crater.
No fuss, no muss, just death penalty.

How are you Right Wing Extremists gonna feel about this when they start shooting at Federal FBI agents?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/these-buildings-will-never-ever-return-to-the-federal-government/2016/01/16/101cb8f2-bbe4-11e5-829c-26ffb874a18d_story.html

[Jim]

 
The government is not allowed to own property. Which part of that don't you understand. 
The only property they can own is 10 square miles inside DC, and whatever it takes for a military base and shipping bases. And that building is not a military base. Nor is all the acreage the government has stolen over the past 80 years.

[Local5th]

Wanting land turned over to states isn't treason.

[Byteryder]

Are you suggesting these people be outright killed, sans Constitutional considerations.?  Seems the violent hating criminal element in this drama is now uncovered.  Do you recognize him DAVIK?

[Bob Huntress]

It is a sad world we live in where a rancher is the badguy and Planned Parenthood is considered the good guys.

[jst-the-fax]

Davik,
You and your neocommunist dem party are the true treasonists of this nation

[Truman62]

At yet THAT is what you guys would want for treasonous dogs.

Implied Powers Jim.  If NOT legal then someone, sometime would have sued to US Supreme Court.
Unless you know of a case and are not telling.

Supreme Court is FINAL authority of what is, or is not, Constitutional.
You and your right wing extremist cohort are NOT legal authorities.
Thus your OPINIONS mean nothing.

[Jim]

 
 
Well, at least you admit to know its part of the Constitution you are supporting the government in disobeying..

[Byteryder]

At yet THAT is what you guys would want for treasonous dogs.

Implied Powers Jim.  If NOT legal then someone, sometime would have sued to US Supreme Court.
Unless you know of a case and are not telling.

Supreme Court is FINAL authority of what is, or is not, Constitutional.
You and your right wing extremist cohort are NOT legal authorities.
Thus your OPINIONS mean nothing.

The Constitution is the original authority.  The USSC is the arbiter of conflict.  The Congress, via the Amendment process and then the States via Ratification and thus the People of the States are the FINAL Authority


In between the Constitution and the People, everything is just opinion.  The Constitution and the People it speaks for are the ONLY entities of Authority in the game.


Wake up you demented little twat.  Understand what you were given when the constitution was Ratified.

[Jw2]

oh jim....oh poor jim...poor, poor jim

just because you repeat a right wing lie, or repeat the lie often, does not make your lie the truth.




The government is not allowed to own property.    Is a lie, and jim knows it.




The United States Constitution, through the Property Clause, specifically gives the government the power to own land.
Over time, the Supreme Court has ruled that not only does the government own the land, but it enjoys broad rights in deciding what happens on that land.
"The Property Clause gives Congress authority over federal property generally, and the Supreme Court has described Congress’ power to legislate under this Clause as ‘without limitation,’ " the researcher wrote.
The Heritage Foundation, a conservative think-tank and activist organization in Washington, D.C., says much the same thing on its online guide to the Constitution. It provides the key text from Article IV of the Constitution.
"The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States."
The constitutional basis of federal land ownership is not subject to any serious debate among scholars, and hasn’t been for a very long time. Just more bullchit from the radical anti-american right wing terrorists.
I'm certain jim isn't a terrorist.  He just ignorantly takes their political position.

[Truman62]

Good point JW.

BTW - If the Government cannot own land, how did it sell all the "Western land" back in the day?
How did it give away the land in the Homestead Act?

What say you Jim?

[gwboolean]

Whatever makes Jim believe that the United States Government cannot own land.  The government damn sure can own land and all Americans know that.  So where are you from Jim?

I like Bob's lament on how sad the world is when a poor rancher (treasonous, criminal thief, terrorist) is a bad guy.

Bite I have no problem with these terrorists and thugs, not to mention traitors, were to be terminated.  In fact I would cheer if that happened.