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D2D
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« Reply #240 on: 01 08, 16, 01:29:03:PM » Reply

Actually, it is fully supported by factual evidence and testimony by law abiding gun owners about their use of firearms for self defense as stated above!

Law abiding gun owners save a minimum of 392,500 lives annually!

Disproving your claim guns only take lives!

Proving guns are not a public health problem but a contributor to good public health!

An average minimum of 1075 lives are saved by law abiding gun owners every day!

Fact: Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times –
    more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds.(243) Of these instances, 15.7% of the people using firearms defensively
    stated that they "almost certainly" saved their lives by doing so.
Firearms are used 60 times more often to protect lives than to take lives.

(243) Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Kleck and Gertz, Fall 1995
http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6853&context=jclc

Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by
criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about
300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15941-cdc-study-ordered-by-obama-contradicts-white-house-anti-gun-narrative
http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#g24a

1965hawks would sacrifice a minimum of 392,500 lives annually to ban guns!

Remember, gun bans/gun control only effects the law abiding!

Criminals will always be armed!

If liberals had their way the law abiding would be completely defenseless against the criminal element!
1965hawks
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« Reply #241 on: 01 08, 16, 01:48:47:PM » Reply

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15941-cdc-study-ordered-by-obama-contradicts-white-house-anti-gun-narrative
http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#g24a

D2D, there's nothing in the CDC study ordered by President Obama that even remotely supports Kleck and Gertz's bogus estimates. Their "studies" and "reseach" on defensive gun use have been shown to be defective. Remember?
1965hawks would sacrifice a minimum of 392,500 lives annually to ban guns! Remember, gun bans/gun control only effects the law abiding! Criminals will always be armed! If liberals had their way the law abiding would be completely defenseless against the criminal element!

And nothing in the repeated claptrap you posted above refutes my argument.

D2D, I've given you your chance to prove that guns don't kill. Not surprisingly, you've failed to that; and, truth is, you never will. So all you're doing now is arguing for the sake of arguing. It's way past time for your idiot ass to take a seat, shut the fuck up, and stop making a damn fool of yourself--like you always do in this forum.

"There’s a certain number that gun fanatics just love. Well, actually there are several numbers they love, but there’s one in particular that they lustfully salivate over: 2.5 million. That’s the putative number of defensive gun uses (DGUs) that occur in the United States every single year."

http://propagandaprofessor.net/tag/dr-kleck/
D2D
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« Reply #242 on: 01 08, 16, 01:49:33:PM » Reply

Actually, it is fully supported by factual evidence and testimony by law abiding gun owners about their use of firearms for self defense as stated above!

Law abiding gun owners save a minimum of 392,500 lives annually!

Disproving your claim guns only take lives!

Proving guns are not a public health problem but a contributor to good public health!

An average minimum of 1075 lives are saved by law abiding gun owners every day!

Fact: Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times –
    more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds.(243) Of these instances, 15.7% of the people using firearms defensively
    stated that they "almost certainly" saved their lives by doing so.
Firearms are used 60 times more often to protect lives than to take lives.

(243) Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Kleck and Gertz, Fall 1995
http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6853&context=jclc

Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by
criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about
300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15941-cdc-study-ordered-by-obama-contradicts-white-house-anti-gun-narrative
http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#g24a

1965hawks would sacrifice a minimum of 392,500 lives annually to ban guns!

Remember, gun bans/gun control only effects the law abiding!

Criminals will always be armed!

If liberals had their way the law abiding would be completely defenseless against the criminal element!
1965hawks
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Posts: 26393


« Reply #243 on: 01 09, 16, 04:45:20:PM » Reply

Actually, it is fully supported by factual evidence and testimony by law abiding gun owners about their use of firearms for self defense as stated above!Law abiding gun owners save a minimum of 392,500 lives annually!


Disproving your claim guns only take lives!Proving guns are not a public health problem but a contributor to good public health!


An average minimum of 1075 lives are saved by law abiding gun owners every day!Fact: Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times –   more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds.(243) Of these instances, 15.7% of the people using firearms defensively   stated that they "almost certainly" saved their lives by doing so.Firearms are used 60 times more often to protect lives than to take lives.


(243) Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Kleck and Gertz, Fall 1995http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6853&context=jclc


Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15941-cdc-study-ordered-by-obama-contradicts-white-house-anti-gun-narrativehttp://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#g24a

REFUTED and DEBUNKED !
D2D
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« Reply #244 on: 01 09, 16, 08:34:18:PM » Reply

 
REFUTED and DEBUNKED !

Only in your imagination!

Actually, it is fully supported by factual evidence and testimony by law abiding gun owners about their use of firearms for self defense as stated above!

Law abiding gun owners save a minimum of 392,500 lives annually!

Disproving your claim guns only take lives!

Proving guns are not a public health problem but a contributor to good public health!

An average minimum of 1075 lives are saved by law abiding gun owners every day!

Fact: Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times –
    more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds.(243) Of these instances, 15.7% of the people using firearms defensively
    stated that they "almost certainly" saved their lives by doing so.
Firearms are used 60 times more often to protect lives than to take lives.

(243) Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Kleck and Gertz, Fall 1995
http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6853&context=jclc

Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by
criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about
300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15941-cdc-study-ordered-by-obama-contradicts-white-house-anti-gun-narrative
http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#g24a

1965hawks would sacrifice a minimum of 392,500 lives annually to ban guns!

Remember, gun bans/gun control only effects the law abiding!

Criminals will always be armed!

If liberals had their way the law abiding would be completely defenseless against the criminal element!
1965hawks
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Posts: 26393


« Reply #245 on: 01 11, 16, 11:35:40:AM » Reply

D2D: Only in your imagination[.] Actually, it is fully supported by blah blah blah....

It's your debunked ass that's imagining things, DUMB2DOOFAS. Guns kill people and your continually citing Kleck and Gertz's discredited studies and research will never change that fact, and neither will your misquoting the CDC report. You lost this debate a long time ago, DUMBO2DUMBASS. It's way past time for your DIPSHIT2DUMMY ass to take a seat and shut the fuck up! 
D2D
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« Reply #246 on: 01 11, 16, 09:36:27:PM » Reply

Only in your imagination!

Actually, it is fully supported by factual evidence and testimony by law abiding gun owners about their use of firearms for self defense as stated above!

Law abiding gun owners save a minimum of 392,500 lives annually!

Disproving your claim guns only take lives!

Proving guns are not a public health problem but a contributor to good public health!

An average minimum of 1075 lives are saved by law abiding gun owners every day!

Fact: Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times –
    more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds.(243) Of these instances, 15.7% of the people using firearms defensively
    stated that they "almost certainly" saved their lives by doing so.
Firearms are used 60 times more often to protect lives than to take lives.

(243) Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Kleck and Gertz, Fall 1995
http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6853&context=jclc

Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by
criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about
300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15941-cdc-study-ordered-by-obama-contradicts-white-house-anti-gun-narrative
http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#g24a

1965hawks would sacrifice a minimum of 392,500 lives annually to ban guns!

Remember, gun bans/gun control only effects the law abiding!

Criminals will always be armed!

If liberals had their way the law abiding would be completely defenseless against the criminal element!
wmdn_bs
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own."
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Bob


« Reply #247 on: 01 12, 16, 07:11:07:AM » Reply

Nobody has been killed by a gun. The topic's subject line is absolutely correct. People have been killed WITH a gun. There are many reasons for that, and lack of restrictions on gun ownership is not one of them. Far too many people actually. Many people have been killed WITH hammers, baseball bats, screwdrivers, scissors, rocks, automobiles, and many other tools, but there is no call from either political party to further restrict ownership of any of those. Why not?
Byteryder
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ante omnia armari


« Reply #248 on: 01 12, 16, 07:28:08:PM » Reply


1965hawks
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« Reply #249 on: 01 14, 16, 02:56:42:PM » Reply

wmdn_BS: Nobody has been killed by a gun.

Your logical fallacy: Denying a valid conclusion--Despite evidence to the contrary, you cling obstinately to an illogical contention that denies the lethality of firearms, and continue to deny that firearms--legally defined as deadly weapons per se-- do, in fact, kill.


The topic's subject line is absolutely correct.

No, wmdn_BS. If truth be told, this thread's topic is rather idiotic, to say the least.

People have been killed with a gun.


When someone uses a firearm to shoot a person dead, what causes that person's death, wmdn_BS? What does a coroner (or a medical examiner) record on the decedent's death certificate as the cause of death? What does he or she attribute the decedent's death to--the shooter or the weapon, wmdn_BS? Yes. People are killed daily in the US by people using firearms as weapons; and, of course, those weapons cause those deaths.  Truth is, wmdn_BS, guns kill, the inane and illogical denials of you and your supporters notwithstanding.

 
D2D
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« Reply #250 on: 01 14, 16, 03:05:08:PM » Reply

Law abiding gun owners save a minimum of 392,500 lives annually!

Disproving your claim guns only take lives!

Proving guns are not a public health problem but a contributor to good public health!

An average minimum of 1075 lives are saved by law abiding gun owners every day!

Fact: Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times –
    more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds.(243) Of these instances, 15.7% of the people using firearms defensively
    stated that they "almost certainly" saved their lives by doing so.
Firearms are used 60 times more often to protect lives than to take lives.

(243) Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Kleck and Gertz, Fall 1995
http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6853&context=jclc

Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by
criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about
300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15941-cdc-study-ordered-by-obama-contradicts-white-house-anti-gun-narrative
http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#g24a

1965hawks would sacrifice a minimum of 392,500 lives annually to ban guns!

Remember, gun bans/gun control only effects the law abiding!

Criminals will always be armed!

If liberals had their way the law abiding would be completely defenseless against the criminal element!
1965hawks
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Posts: 26393


« Reply #251 on: 01 14, 16, 03:28:17:PM » Reply

   
: 1965hawks would sacrifice a minimum of 392,500 lives annually to ban guns!

Evidently, DUMB2DOOFAS would rather continue posting a debunked claim in the hope that reposting it over and over again will somehow make it true. 

Remember, gun bans/gun control only effects the law abiding!

All the rational discussants in this forum will always remember the catastrophic effect that mind-altering substances have on you when your DUMB ass posts your imbecilic claptrap on this message board, DELUSIONAL2DEMENTED. 

Criminals will always be armed!

And, unfortunately for you--and the rest of us in this forum, you will always remain a turd-brained imbecile, DUMBFUCK2DIPSHIT.

If liberals had their way the law abiding would be completely defenseless against the criminal element!

D2D, if I had my way, your bat-shit crazy ass would had been in a padded cell a long time ago, you lying little moron.
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