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Bob Huntress
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« Reply #84 on: 09 04, 15, 05:52:08:AM » Reply

"I thought you republican/tea party/traitor types were really B-I-G on sticking to the letter of the law... "
 
 
Perhaps you might want to share the letter of that law you feel she violated. Contempt of Court means she violated a judges order not a law. The judge, not a law allows gay marriage.
wmdn_bs
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Bob


« Reply #85 on: 09 04, 15, 06:37:32:AM » Reply

Learned Constitutional Scholars carefully selected for their Ideological leanings...  Give us a break WD

Really? the majority of them are conservatives. The difference is that you like to cherry pick the issues you would like them to support. The constitution doesn't work that way. It was written for everyone Byte.
wmdn_bs
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« Reply #86 on: 09 04, 15, 07:05:18:AM » Reply

"I thought you republican/tea party/traitor types were really B-I-G on sticking to the letter of the law... "


Perhaps you might want to share the letter of that law you feel she violated. Contempt of Court means she violated a judges order not a law. The judge, not a law allows gay marriage.

It is law Bob. You and I don't get to choose which SCOTUS rulings are law and whaich ones aren't. Ms. Davis can sit in jail until she is voted out of office or decides to follow the law, or at least allow her deputy clerks to follow the law. Five of them have indicated they will do so beginning this morning.
Bob Huntress
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« Reply #87 on: 09 04, 15, 09:25:23:AM » Reply

Wmdn, judges make judgements, while laws are made by lawmakers, which btw is why we call them lawmakers. Perhaps the word "Legislature" confusses you. If you remember "Lawmakers", it might clear the matter up.
justincase
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« Reply #88 on: 09 04, 15, 09:25:29:AM » Reply

It is her choice to remain in jail. She can leave whenever she wants...



Judge Bunning approved a proposal by the plaintiffs' attorneys to allow the clerk to be released if she agreed not to interfere with her deputies issuing licenses for gay couples.

 Davis turned down the compromise, saying through her attorney that she "would not make any representation" that she would allow marriage licenses to be issued. She remains in custody.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/couple-suing-kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-over-marriage-licenses-plans-n421402
sweetwater5s9
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« Reply #89 on: 09 04, 15, 10:32:49:AM » Reply

She cited her beliefs as an Apostolic Christian that a marriage can only be between a man and a woman.

The Apostolic Christian Church (ACC) is a religious body in the United States, Canada, Mexico, and Japan.

Members are disciplined because of sin and not, as commonly misconceived, because of adherence to traditions. Traditions within the Apostolic Christian Church help encourage believers in their commitment to serving the Lord, help to knit generations together, and provide close harmony among the various congregations.

Members seek to obey the Bible, which they hold to be the infallible Word of God.
wmdn_bs
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Bob


« Reply #90 on: 09 04, 15, 11:15:57:AM » Reply

Wmdn, judges make judgements, while laws are made by lawmakers, which btw is why we call them lawmakers. Perhaps the word "Legislature" confusses you. If you remember "Lawmakers", it might clear the matter up.

 Bob, Supreme Court Justices interpret the constitutionality of law. That is exactly what they did. The found the bans unconstitutional. They determine constitutionality for everyone, not just white straight people, or just Christians, or Jews, or blacks, or gays, or latinos, or any other isolated group. All people.
sweetwater5s9
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« Reply #91 on: 09 04, 15, 11:36:15:AM » Reply

When the 14th Amendment passed in 1868, it was intended to give former slaves equal protection and voting rights under the law; it was not meant to protect women. In fact, it specified equality for male slaves, female slaves were excluded as were all women, regardless of race.

A year after the 14th amendment’s passage, Myra Bradwell tried to apply it to women’s rights. Bradwell, who graduated law school with honors and had passed the bar, challenged the Supreme Court of Illinois’ decision prohibiting her from practicing law in the state.

The case went to the United States Supreme Court with Myra Bradwell arguing that Illinois violated the Fourteenth Amendment’s equal protection provision. The Supreme Court saw otherwise, ruling that the amendment did not require states to open the legal profession to women. One justice wrote: “The paramount destiny and mission of women are to fulfill the noble and benign offices of wife and mother.”

There was wide political support for protecting the freed slaves, but not for giving women the right to vote.

Most of those who had argued for women's rights before and during the war had also allied themselves strongly with the movement to abolish slavery, linking the two causes on the basis of natural rights. But now, by the insertion of the word "male" into the amendment, the Constitution would no longer be technically gender-blind, but would actively "disfranchise" women.

The amendment that would guarantee them the right to vote—the 19th—would not become law until 1920.


The myth that the 14th Amendment was for "all"...

The Reconstruction Amendments are the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth amendments and were passed for blacks only.


http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/23652
wmdn_bs
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« Reply #92 on: 09 04, 15, 11:41:43:AM » Reply

I've read the 14th amendment, I don't recall it specifically saying it ws written for blacks only.
1965hawks
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« Reply #93 on: 09 04, 15, 02:11:25:PM » Reply

WWV10MHZ: What Fed Law, exactly, did she violate?

You're ignoring the issue and, instead, attacking a straw man, WWV10MHZ. Kim Davis didn't go to gaol for violating a federal law, she was incarcerated for contempt of court, her willful disobeying a court order--a very serious offense.

http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=325

She upheld Kentucky Law exactly as she pledged.

And what Kentucky law would that be, WWV10MHZ? You certainly can't be referring to a state law that forbids same-sex marriages. The US Supreme Court ruled those laws unconstitutional. Remember?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2015/06/26/supreme-court-rules-same-sex-marriage-is-a-constitutional-right/

No, WWV10MHZ. Contemnor Davis didn't uphold the law; she was in contempt of it. And, as punishment for her contempt, the right's fraudulent heroine and phony martyr, Kim Davis, was sent to the skookum house for an indefinite period.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/09/03/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-jailed-for-contempt




Dan
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« Reply #94 on: 09 04, 15, 02:21:04:PM » Reply

So the problem is with Judge Bunning and his persecution of Christians.
1965hawks
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« Reply #95 on: 09 04, 15, 02:36:04:PM » Reply

sweetwater5s9: The myth that the 14th Amendment was for "all"...[sic] The Reconstruction Amendments are the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth amendments [sic] and were passed for blacks only.


According to the misinformed sweetwater5s9, it's a myth that the 14th Amendment was meant for all persons under the jurisdiction of the US Constitution. In addition to that, her preposterous assertion would have us believe the Reconstruction Amendments--the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments--apply only to blacks, and not to all other persons in the United States of America.
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