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sweetwater5s9
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« Reply #36 on: 03 28, 15, 01:37:32:PM » Reply

Jasper Kirkby and his 62 co-authors from 17 institutes in Europe and the U.S. announced that the sun indeed has a significant influence on our planet’s temperature.

In other words, the big influence exists, yet hasn’t been factored into climate models.

It has exposed a cosmic blunder of judgment.
chuck_curtis
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Let's go Brandon!


« Reply #37 on: 03 28, 15, 02:12:55:PM » Reply

At his point, expect nothing from the MSM.   It no longer even dares to interview "deniers" after it has staked its entire reputation (what little is left of it) on the establishment's schtick.  The LA times won't print "denier" editorials, and the Washington Examiner won't interview "deniers".  In the view of the MSM, presenting both sides on the climate issue is a false balance.   So don't look for balance in the MSM.  You won't find it.   Turn it off.   It's useless.



wvit1001
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« Reply #38 on: 03 28, 15, 03:22:11:PM » Reply

Many climate "skeptics" have claimed that CLOUD at CERN has “proven that cosmic rays drive climate change”, or something to that effect.

Unfortunately for “skeptics” (and if we don’t reign in greenhouse emissions, everyone else), it’s not true. While cosmic rays may have some influence on cloud formation, they are not responsible for the present, human-driven climatic change or alleged changes in the geologic past.


It is completely accepted in mainstream science that galactic cosmic rays (GCRs) might be able to influence the nucleation process of potential
cloud condensation nuclei (CCN), and that it’s conceivable that this could influence cloud behavior at some level. As the IPCC AR4 noted,


"By altering the population of CCN and hence microphysical cloud properties (droplet number and concentration), cosmic rays may also induce processes analogous to the indirect effect of tropospheric aerosols. The presence of ions, such as produced by cosmic rays, is recognised as influencing several microphysical mechanisms (Harrison and Carslaw, 2003).
Aerosols may nucleate preferentially on atmospheric cluster ions. In the case of low gas-phase sulphuric acid concentrations, ion-induced nucleation may dominate over binary sulphuric acid-water nucleation."


While a plausible mechanism exists, real world verifications are necessarily difficult to undertake. The CLOUD project at CERN is seeking to do exactly that. The “skeptic” and right wing blogospheres are abuzz because Jasper Kirkby, et al. have just published the first results in Nature (Kirkby 2011).
More recently, in May 2013 Kirkby reiterated this point.


"At the present time we can not say whether cosmic rays affect the climate"

While the CLOUD results provide some confirmation of the potential mechanism by which GCRs might induce cloud nucleation, they in no way demonstrate that GCRs do significantly promote cloud formation in the real world, let alone support the myth that GCRs drive significant climatic change.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/cern-cloud-proves-cosmic-rays-causing-global-warming-intermediate.htm
sweetwater5s9
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« Reply #39 on: 03 28, 15, 03:29:37:PM » Reply

Kirkby and his 62 co-authors from 17 institutes in Europe and the U.S. announced that the sun indeed has a significant influence on our planet’s temperature.

It has exposed a cosmic blunder of judgment with MMGW models.
wvit1001
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« Reply #40 on: 03 28, 15, 03:31:57:PM » Reply

the sun has the major influence over the temperature of our planet.  but the sun is very very stable in terms of energy output and the very small variations that do occur aren't a real influence on our climate.
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« Reply #41 on: 03 28, 15, 03:43:38:PM » Reply

Even small changes in solar activity can impact Earth's climate in significant and surprisingly complex ways, researchers say.

   The sun is a constant star when compared with many others in the galaxy. Some stars pulsate dramatically, varying wildly in size and brightness and even exploding. In comparison, the sun varies in the amount of light it emits by only 0.1 percent over the course of a relatively stable 11-year-long pattern known as the solar cycle.

   Still, "the light reaching the top of the Earth's atmosphere provides about 2,500 times as much energy as the total of all other sources combined," solar physicist Greg Kopp at the University of Colorado told SPACE.com. As such, even 0.1 percent of the amount of light the sun emits exceeds all other energy sources the Earth's atmosphere sees combined, such as the radioactivity naturally emitted from Earth's core, Kopp explained.



To learn more about how such tiny variations in solar energy might impact terrestrial climate, the National Research Council (NRC) convened dozens of experts in many fields, such as plasma physics, solar activity, atmospheric chemistry, fluid dynamics and energetic particle physics.


http://www.space.com/19280-solar-activity-earth-climate.html


In addition, climate scientist Gerald Meehl at the National Center for Atmospheric Research and his colleagues suggest that solar variability is leaving a definite imprint on climate, especially in the Pacific Ocean.


[Sun's Wrath: Worst Solar Storms Ever]
wvit1001
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« Reply #42 on: 03 28, 15, 04:13:02:PM » Reply

only problem is sweaty, none of what you posted is true.
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