Gang banger with long criminal record arrested in death of 11 yr. old!

[hoosier_daddy]

chicago is not in a red state and they recently did loosen their gun laws, stupid.  about a year ago.  not too long ago jerkwater started a thread about how wonderful this new gun law was for chicago and that it would bring down the murder rate, even though today it is still about half of what it was when geezer reagan was president....

Homicides in Chicago by year

    1928: 399

    1965: 395

    1974: 970

    1980: 863

1981: 877
1982: 668
1983: 729
1984: 741  REAGAN YEARS MUCH HIGHER
1985: 666   HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF GUNS IN HOMES
1986: 744
1987: 691
1988: 660

   1989: 742

   1990: 851

   1991: 927

   1992: 943

   1993: 855

   1994: 796

   1997: 761

   1998: 704

   1999: 643

   2000: 633

   2001: 667

   2004: 453

   2007: 448

   2008: 513

   2009: 459
   2010: 436
   2011: 435  OBAMA YEARS MUCH LESS THAN DUMBFUCK GEEZER REAGAN'S
   2012: 506   LESS PERCENTAGE OF GUNS IN HOMES
   2013: 415

[D2D]

Hoosier, as I have previously noted you are lying!

Gun ownership has only increased in this country!

Chicago is a city you ass!

They recently "loosened" their gun laws under court order as their ban was wholly unconstitutional!

They still have effectively banned all gun ownership by law abiding citizens!

Chicago has been run by democrats for decades!

Democrats have created the misery Chicago is currently suffering!

[dont-blameme]

Auggiepoo have you ever given thought that they may have excess to some of those guns that went to Mexico, through the black market? You do know the meaning of black market don't you auggiepoo, so

you won't be confused it's not about race.

[sweetwater5s9]

Who helps these gang bangers get guns?



Any serious effort to reduce gun violence in Chicago, especially homicides, needs to directly include voices of the shooters and illegal gun carriers, themselves. They are seldom included in serious discussions for solutions although they have special insights and are the main agents for change.




Why carry Illegal guns?


   -“It is better to be judged by 12 than carried by eight to the cemetery...The catching comes before the hanging, and the catching may never happen:”  W.A., former mob member turned rehab worker, Black male, age 60.
   -“Better have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.” O.L., former gang member turned college student and businessman, Hispanic, age 32.


   -“Some people carry their gun to the bathroom in case someone breaks in while they are there.” T.K., drug dealer and student, White male, age 22.
   -“Fear for your life, gang affiliation, drug dealing. I carried a gun because I was selling drugs; needed to protect my drugs. Things happen and people get killed. In the game, you never trust nobody,” T.J., former gang member and drug dealer, served over 15 years, Black male, age 52.

   -“The dusties [age 60-70] carry because they scared... to be robbed by younger people, younger people carry because they scared they will be hurt by other young people.” W.A., former mob member turned rehab worker, Black male, age 60.
   -“The older generation failed us. There is a war out there. It's life or death; kill or get killed; no body wants to die.”  R.P., former hit man with one bullet still in leg, Black male, age 21.

   - “Turf battle: you cross over and kill one of us, we kill one of you. Whoever gets caught in the crossfire, is a casualty.” D.O., recently served four years for drug dealing, Black male, age 25.
   -“We women in certain situations certainly have a gun, because of fear.” A.R., former gang member turned City employee, Black female, age 45.
   -"Living where I'm at, and walking down the street, and seeing what I see, for me to have no gun, that would be crazy:” D.I. former gang member and drug dealer, served over 18 years for murder, Black male, age 37.
   -“You are taught to go out and have a gun, you are not taught to go out and call the police, and call 911." R.D., street hustler and burglary still healing from gunshot wound to chest, Black male, age 25.


   - “Preachers sold out the community, politicians sold us out, police too corrupt. It is every male for himself to protect family: M.P., former drug dealer and hit male, Army veteran, turned youth advocate, Black male, age 32.


Where do the guns come from?


   -“Mobs supply the pistols to protect their supplies. They say, 'Don't let people come and take our merch [merchandise]. This is what you protect it with,' and they give you a gun to protect the CDs [drugs].”W.A., former mob member turned rehab worker, Black male, age 60.
   -“Pawn shops, crackheads, people that break into other people's houses.” T.B., active burglar, gang member, Hispanic male, age 23.
   -“Mainly guns get taken from White people neighborhoods. They have lots of guns in the shoe box under they bed, in their cabinets, dresser near they beds, over the fireplace.”  D.I. former gang member and drug dealer, served over 18 years for murder, Black male, age 37.
   -"Police who are still gang bangers; they take guns off other gang members, and give them to you.” R.P., former hit man with 1 bullet still in leg, Black male, age 21.
   -“Army, Navy, Marines—veterans who are still gang bangers. They have gun cards; they may be homeless or not, in a tight financial situation. Bam--they gone go ahead and let you get a gun and go do what you gonna do.” M.P., former drug dealer and hitman, Army veteran, turned youth advocate, Black male, age 32.
   -“Some people who use drugs have guns they don't need, so they sell them.... to buy drugs. T.L., former street prostitute turned social worker, White female, age 38.
   -“Outside of Chicago; any place without long waits for permit. We got <a href="<a">maley from Mississippi.” T.J., former gang member and drug dealer, served over 15 years, Black male, age 52.

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[hoosier_daddy]

black market!  racist!

hey, jerkwater...why not crow some more about how chicago loosening up their gun laws has helped end the murders....how long ago did that happen? do you still have a link to that source?

[sweetwater5s9]

Still a racist and still ignorant as usual for you, hooty.

[D2D]

[hoosier_daddy]

yeah...so?  that proves the right wingers crying about chicago all the time are easily led morons. 

[D2D]

It proves Chicago's violent crime rate is double to triple the national rate!

Liberalism coddles criminals while abusing the law abiding!

[sweetwater5s9]

Where do Chicago criminal's guns come from?


   -“Mobs supply the pistols to protect their supplies. They say, 'Don't let people come and take our merch [merchandise]. This is what you protect it with,' and they give you a gun to protect the CDs [drugs].”W.A., former mob member turned rehab worker, Black male, age 60.

   -“Pawn shops, crackheads, people that break into other people's houses.” T.B., active burglar, gang member, Hispanic male, age 23.

   -“Mainly guns get taken from White people neighborhoods. They have lots of guns in the shoe box under they bed, in their cabinets,
dresser near they beds, over the fireplace.”  D.I. former gang member and drug dealer, served over 18 years for murder, Black male, age 37.


   -"Police who are still gang bangers; they take guns off other gang members, and give them to you.” R.P., former hit man with 1 bullet still in leg, Black male, age 21.
   -“Army, Navy, Marines—veterans who are still gang bangers. They have gun cards; they may be homeless or not, in a tight financial situation. Bam--they gone go ahead and let you get a gun and go do what you gonna do.” M.P., former drug dealer and hitman, Army veteran, turned youth advocate, Black male, age 32.


   -“Some people who use drugs have guns they don't need, so they sell them.... to buy drugs. T.L., former street prostitute turned social worker, White female, age 38.

   -“Outside of Chicago.  We got maley from Mississippi.” T.J., former gang member and drug dealer, served over 15 years, Black male, age 52.

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[Dan]

i wonder how many of the ...

Red Herring.

[jst-the-fax]

Who was it that posted a joke (yesterday) that a black women in Chicago received a $1500 check from Crime Stoppers after receiving an abortion?