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« on: 06 07, 13, 10:20:04:AM » Reply

From the Archives: NSA Surveillance Seven Years
Earlier
By: Meena Ganesan
 
 
 
Under a top-secret court order issued using a
provision of the Patriot Act, the United States
government has been collecting phone records of
millions of American Verizon customers for at
least seven years, since 2006, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the
chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee,
said Thursday.
 
 
 
Feinstein's defense that the order was "lawful"
came after The Guardian newspaper disclosed late
Wednesday the copy of the order requiring
Verizon on an "ongoing, daily basis" provide the
National Security Agency with meta data of all
telephone records from the U.S. to other
countries.
 
 
 
 
In May 2006, USA Today reported that the NSA,
under then-CIA Nominee Gen. Michael Hayden's
leadership, had, since 9/11, secretly collected
tens of millions of phone call records from the
nation's three largest telephone companies --
Verizon, AT&T and BellSouth.
 
 
 
 
We uncovered this conversation Jeffrey Brown
held on May 12, 2006 with Bryan Cunningham, a
former lawyer for the National Security Council
in the Bush administration and with the CIA
during the Clinton years
 
 
 
 
 
JEFFREY BROWN: Mr. Cunningham, starting with
you, from what you know so far, is this program
legal?
 
 
 
BRYAN CUNNINGHAM: I would say it's almost
certainly absolutely legal and constitutional
unless there are facts, obviously, that we don't
know about.
First of all the United States Supreme Court
said in 1979 that Americans do not have any
expectation of privacy in telephone toll
records. And, therefore, the Fourth Amendment
warrant does not apply and that probably why
polls are showing most Americans are not too
exercised about this because the Supreme Court
got it right in terms of what they expect of
these records.
Secondly, the, apparently the records were
turned over voluntarily by the telephone company
to the government. So the government would not
even have to go to court to get legal process to
do this.
And thirdly, if the government did need to or
did decide forth benefit of the companies to go
to court, there are a number of mechanisms in
existing law that would allow them to get the
right kind of legal authorities without ever
implicating the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act, because these are not content
of communication. So I think it's very clearly
legal.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Our political analysts -- syndicated columnist
Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David
Brooks -- were also on hand that day seven years
ago.
 
 
We digitized that interview for you below.
May 12, 2006, analysis with Mark Shields and
David Brooks.
They touched on the controversy surrounding the
National Security Agency's collection of phone
records, as well then-President George W. Bush's
low approval ratings with even further gloom
trending on the Hill.
RAY SUAREZ: Mark, one of the big stories this
week as we just heard, the National Security
Agency's collection of phone records, is this
going to play differently from the earlier
discussions of surveillance of overseas phone
calls?
MARK SHIELDS: Yes, I think it will, Ray. I mean,
the president told us when the original
disclosure was made, it was a terror
surveillance program, that we fiercely protected
the privacy of all Americans. And so you are led
to believe that if you are calling Kabul or
Indonesia, or Yemen on a regular basis, you may
very well have been listened -- your phone call
might have been monitored.
But now we're talking about 224 million phone
users, and their records. And the overnight poll
said, well, people said that's okay. I don't
know. I think upon reflection, there is a sense
of that this goes beyond what was described at
the first -- why didn't they get FISA approval.
Were the cases in some instances so flimsy that
they even compliant tribunal like FISA, Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Act court wouldn't
give it to them? And I think, you know,
everybody has, whether you are calling your
bookie, whether there are people doing day
trading, whether they are calling a 900 number
in New Jersey, I think that there is a sense of
perhaps privacy being violated here in a way
that the president had not described at all at
the time of the initial disclosure.
RAY SUAREZ: Well, David, what do you think?
Because everyone has a phone, virtually, this is
different from the surveys lance of overseas
phone calls.
DAVID BROOKS: So far, it doesn't seem that way.
I mean, the original poll, the poll that I saw,
I guess in the Washington Post, somewhere said
that 63 percent approved the program. 57
percent, I think it was, said even if it is my
own phone on these records, they support the
program.
I think basically people think this is a
legitimate way, if the NSA professionals want to
do this; they are prepared to defer to the NSA
professionals who seem to be doing it by the
book for the NSA, which is a pretty good agency.
And so they feel, you know, they don't want to
be attacked. And if they can use these records,
this compendium of records, they find a bad guy,
they want to find out who that bad guy called, I
think most people will accept it. I think on
Capitol Hill, I think you see two things. You
see, A, general support for the program I think
instinctively among Republicans, especially, but
also a little anger that they weren't told about
the extent of it last December. I mean, we knew
they were doing this data mining last December.
We knew that there were millions of phone calls
being made.
We didn't know from the White House that it was
purely domestic, as well as the international
calls, so there was a little bit of upset that
the White House wasn't forthcoming but as for
the substance, I don't think it will be a
political problem.
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pbs.
 
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« Reply #1 on: 06 08, 13, 04:57:05:AM » Reply

That is correct, it was for foreign surveillance and used as such and not US Citizen, as has been shown to have occurred under Obama. When it was revealed that this occurred, the democrats republican and Libertarians were outraged, the press went into a frenzy.

You sit there and try and justify two wrongs making a right. WTG.

Where is the Democrats outrage now?

Your only claim to fame with this post is that Obama is more Bush than you want to admit. Seems every time Obama screws up, Bush is brought up. LIKE NOW.


One of these days you will wake up to the fact that OBAMA IS PRESIDENT, HAS BEEN FOR YEARS NOW, WAKE UP. ITS HIS WATCH NOW.
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« Reply #2 on: 06 19, 13, 01:26:54:AM » Reply

 
 
You're wrong and all fucked up El Bozo.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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