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Title: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: dont-blameme on 07 04, 20, 12:38:05:PM
Simple to do for all Americans, it's only a problem for the others!


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: wvit1001 on 07 04, 20, 12:40:22:PM
that's not how trump voted blammie.


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: chuck_curtis on 07 04, 20, 12:43:57:PM
Just do what the Ds do.  Vote early and vote often.  Vote for your dead relatives, too.   Vote by mail and then go to the poll. (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: wvit1001 on 07 04, 20, 12:47:11:PM
and yet you have no incidents of any rampant voting incidents like you describe chuck.

why do you keep troll'n such obvious bullshit like that commie curtis?


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: gwboolean on 07 04, 20, 12:57:07:PM
Send in your vote by mail or don't vote at all!

Simple to do for all Americans.  It's only a problem for the boobaloos.


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: omiaqt on 07 04, 20, 01:14:31:PM
Nothing wrong with absentee voting, as long as proper tracking and photo of ID is included, wvit!


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: wvit1001 on 07 04, 20, 01:16:27:PM
there's no photo ID requirements for absentee voting goofy.   


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: dont-blameme on 07 04, 20, 02:26:22:PM
there's no photo ID requirements for absentee voting goofy.   THEN THERE SHOULD BE NO ABSENTEE VOTING GOOFY!


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: wvit1001 on 07 04, 20, 02:30:27:PM
if that's true then why would trump use absentee voting blammie?


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: omiaqt on 07 04, 20, 02:32:58:PM
A new rule preventing fraud could be added, wvit. Don't you want fair and honest elections?


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: wvit1001 on 07 04, 20, 02:35:13:PM
why do we need a new rule omiaqt?   I thought you were against more regulations.


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: D2D on 07 05, 20, 08:48:16:AM
Wvit is all for election fraud and that is why the Democrat party must be sued to get voter rolls cleaned up!


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: gwboolean on 07 05, 20, 10:12:15:AM
The boogaloos are worrying that they have lost control and might not be able to rig the vote.


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: D2D on 07 05, 20, 11:01:03:AM
CCPboolean agrees with Wvit in his opposition to any measures designed to reduce election fraud!


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: wvit1001 on 07 05, 20, 11:22:53:AM
What election fraud are you referring to that you’re trying to reduce?    Any real world examples


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: D2D on 07 05, 20, 12:01:29:PM
Following accusations of widespread fraud, voter intimidation, and ballot theft in the May 12 municipal elections in Paterson, New Jersey, state Attorney General Gurbir S. Grewal announced Thursday he is charging four men with voter fraud (https://www.insidernj.com/grewal-announces-voting-fraud-charges-paterson-councilman-michael-jackson-councilman-elect-alex-mendez-two-others/)—including the vice president of the City Council and a candidate for that body.
With races still undecided, control of the council hangs in the balance. Paterson is New Jersey’s third-largest city and the election will decide the fate of a municipal budget in excess of $300 million, in addition to hundreds of millions more in education spending and state aid.
In the City Council election, 16,747 vote-by-mail ballots were received, but only 13,557 votes were counted (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/close-results-in-paterson-vote-plagued-by-fraud-claims-over-3k-ballots-seemingly-set-aside/2425813/). More than 3,190 votes, 19% of the total ballots cast, were disqualified by the board of elections.
Due to the pandemic, Paterson’s election was done through vote-by-mail. Community organizations, such as the city’s NAACP chapter, are calling for the entire election to be invalidated (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/nj-naacp-leader-calls-for-paterson-mail-in-vote-to-be-canceled-amid-fraud-claims/2435162/).

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/06/29/1-in-5-ballots-rejected-as-fraud-charged-in-new-jersey-mail-in-election/


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: wvit1001 on 07 05, 20, 12:09:18:PM
election law experts say that Trump's spotlight on the case also shows both how rare these kinds of cases are and the safeguards in place to protect the integrity of ballots.

The investigation started after the U.S. Postal Inspection Service tipped off state law enforcement officials to hundreds of mail-in ballots stuffed in a Paterson mailbox. Other bundled ballots were discovered in another nearby city.

"We will not allow a small number of criminals to undermine the public's confidence in our democratic process," said Attorney General Grewal.

The Passaic County Board of Elections rejected 3,190 ballots, about 19% of the mail-in ballots submitted, for the May 12 election in Paterson, but it is unclear how many were connected to the fraud allegations.

Although critics including Trump have claimed that a surge in mail-in voting will leave the election system prone to fraud, voting rights advocates in New Jersey say some of the same security features that exist for in-person voting also feature in vote-by-mail.

"There is a huge myth about voter fraud in this country," said Jesse Burns, executive director of the League of Women Voters of New Jersey.

UC Irvine's Hasen said the security measures used in New Jersey were likely enough to raise the suspicion of authorities. "Even on this small scale, what you see is that having a conspiracy like this to try to affect the outcome of an election is very difficult to do without detection."


https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.northjersey.com/story/news/paterson-press/2020/05/20/paterson-nj-election-officials-disqualify-19-percent-votes-cast/5233032002/__;!!Iwwt!DG9K4QXy9nSPiYJ_dIqf6o-0JVOPQV36LQK0kx_SRjebzLkXsnkDO147qSg$




so there was no fraud,   The people trying to commit the fraud were quickly found and are being prosecuted.   


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: wvit1001 on 07 05, 20, 12:10:32:PM
Hasen emphasized that the Paterson case shows how difficult carrying out the kind of widespread fraud Trump insists is possible.

"Imagine trying to swing the outcome of a presidential election, how many people you would have to get involved or how many ballots you would have to try to intercept without detection in order to try to have a meaningful impact on races that are typically decided by tens of thousands of votes if not more in a particular state," said Hasen.


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: D2D on 07 05, 20, 03:01:34:PM
You cannot find what you refuse to look for!


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: wvit1001 on 07 05, 20, 03:19:36:PM
the president formed a group to look into election fraud, but they couldn't find anything worthwhile to look into and disbanded without even writing a report. 

so it has been looked into by the president d2.


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: D2D on 07 05, 20, 03:23:31:PM
As you well know States refused to participate effectively ending the investigation!


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: sine-qua-non on 07 05, 20, 03:24:48:PM
Those would be mostly those sanctuary DemoncRats states D2D
That’s why Cali gives drivers licenses to illegal aliens (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/undecided.gif)


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: wvit1001 on 07 05, 20, 03:29:23:PM
a few states refused d2, but plenty of states agreed.    and the group didn't find it important enough to push the issue.

the president just likes to spread bullshit.    kinda like you do.


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: sine-qua-non on 07 05, 20, 03:32:14:PM
States can’t be made to cooperate with the Fed zippy

Most of those states that didn’t were some of the largest with the most illegals DemoncRats sancturary states (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/evil.gif)

They have to protect their base of illegals obviously !


Title: Re: Vote in person with proper ID or don't vote at all.
Post by: chuck_curtis on 07 05, 20, 05:04:43:PM
I know one thing, for sure.  The holes in the election systems are partisan blind and I suggest everyone take full advantage of them.  If you don't, someone else will.