since mitigation does nothing but extend the time frame for the number of cases in order to prevent most of the cases happening within a short period of time, why are we pretending that mitigation will reduce the total number of cases in the long run?

As I said two months ago, it is better to get the virus over in a short period of time than to have it extend for months and months.

Remember, the only benefit to mitigation was to “flatten the curve.”  It was never going to reduce the total number of cases.

The down side of flattening the curve is that it extends the lifespan of the virus.

We destroyed our economy to prevent an overrun on hospitals, which was never in jeopardy of coming to fruition.

dan,

WHY is tRaitor/tRump consistently LYING about the Covid-19

numbers?

To make him 'appear' better and save his political ass?

We are NOWHERE NEAR out of the wood with this virus yet,

and yet tRaitor/tRump hems, haws, and lies about the actual

numbers...

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

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To advance his political agenda.

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Bingo!  Exactly my point.  Mitigation did nothing but extend the lifespan of the crisis.  It did nothing to reduce the total number of cases in the end.

So why are we still shut down when we achieved the goal of flattening the curve long ago?

dan,

tRaitor/tRUmp WON'T let this country do the list of things

that MUST be done BEFORE we can reopen the economy.

In a lot of states the Covid-19 virus is spiking still and yet

they are stupid enough to go ahead and 'attempt' to reopen.

dumb, Dumb, DUMB!

dismissed...,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

Has anyone here besides me studied Calculus?

What do you notice about the curves release by the CDC showing the relationship between the number of cases vs. time?

The curve without mitigation shows a short timespan but a steep slope.  The curve with mitigation shows a long timespan, but a flat slope.

Both curves have something in common.  The area below the curves are the same.  That means the total number of cases over time are the same with or without mitigation.

Mitigation does not prevent the spread of the virus.  It just increases the amount of time for the virus to spread.  Now why would we want to do that?  The only reason given was to prevent an overrun on hospitals.  Now ask yourself, is that still an issue?  Are we still in danger of our hospitals being overrun?

dan,

This virus knows NOTHING about calculus.

It's running rampant and tRump and his minions

are accessories to murder!

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

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You’re wrong.  It can open right now.  There is no logical reason not to.

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So?  The moon knows nothing about orbital mechanics.

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Nope.


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How can that be true if the country is shut down?  How can that be if the number of deaths are identical no matter what he does?

Face it, dan.

tRaitor/tRump bungled it.

He had the chance earlier in the year to head this virus

off at the pass, and he hemmed, hawed, and denied..

 And his lies and b.s. WILL BE remembered

by the voters in November when they vote him and his

traitor/republican party out.

tRaitor/tRUmp IS a moron of the "First Water."

So are you if you truly believe the bullshit you are spouting..

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.* (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

This is why Dan should quit experiencing the Colon Cleaning Clorox Cavage feeling from his MEGAMAGABAG.  He has already forgotten that it was Douchebag Don who destroyed our economy by providing false information when everyone knew it was a lie.

gwboolean,


(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/hattip.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/emo_hattip.gif)

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

There is no point in attempting anything resembling an adult or rational discussion with the liberals on the board.

Futility is the operative word.

lacky,

YOU ARE a "futile" moron of the first water..

And your lying, self serving, republican/tRaitor bullshit doesn't fly...

No One is denying that fact..

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

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Nope.

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He did.
Try doing some research.

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So Trump told the governors that they had to shut down their economies because the virus was extremely dangerous, but that was a lie?  The virus is not dangerous?

Lakitss,

(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/emo_hattip.gif)

*Dan* (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)

GOPpers here are liars and illogical children, who just HAVE to have thier way, or else!

Newsflash: The World Does NOT revolve around your wishes Dan/Lacktits!

Other people have their own desires/thoughts/opinions, so you will just have to suffer.

As for YOUR opinions - I left the goofy shit behind in Kindergarten and 1st grade, so I'll pass on your fucked up ideas,  LMAO!

We didn't say anything about our wishes.  Did you read anything I said?  I'm trying to have a factual and logical discussion here.  Do you have anything of substance to contribute?


If you say so. (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)


What's wrong with what I said?  You never said.  You never explained with logic and reason like I did.

1 new COVID-19 case reported in Anchorage, plus 1 nonresident case

https://www.ktva.com/story/42137004/1-new-covid19-case-reported-in-anchorage-plus-1-nonresident-case

The State of Alaska reports Friday that one more person in Anchorage has been diagnosed with COVID-19.

There are 388 Alaskans and eight out-of-state residents who have tested positive for COVID-19 in the state. In total, 343 Alaskans have recovered since the pandemic began.

"There was also a case identified in a seafood industry worker who is in the Municipality of Anchorage," read a press release from the Department of Health and Social Services. "Since the person is not an Alaska resident, the case is not included in the total Alaska case count of 388."

There are 35 active cases in the state. The number of deaths remains at 10.

Why would you even ask that? 

Forrest Trump has opened the country, the Trump Virus Wuhan Virus  is quickly rising again and the economy is getting measurably worse everyday.

You Bootaloos and Forrest Trump got what you wanted and now you are going to pay.

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Bingo!  It makes no sense to lock down the entire state for that.

Because no logical or reasonable answer has been given.


No it's not.  But if the economy is getting worse, Why do you want to make it worse?

You Bootaloos and Forrest Obama got what you wanted.  The destruction of the economy.  And for what?  It has no positive results.  So why are we still shut down as you desire?

Disney World is open.   “By visiting Walt Disney World Resort, you voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19.”   (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)

Disney World isn't open chuckles.    Why do you lie the way you do.

#BLUEWAVE2020?

LOLOL! For tRaitor/tRump & co.,

It's gonna be a "WIPEOUT!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p13yZAjhU0M

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

It is obvious that our Boogaloos might be not only using their Dr. Douchebag Don's world famous MEGAMAGABAGs^TM for that Colon Cleaning Comet Cavage feeling, but have are now further enjoying that Butt Bomb experience with their NEW Impacted Ivanka's NEW MEGAMAGABUTTPLUGG^TM !!!!

(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/upload/2k8d106751ca.jpg)

#CRIMSONTIDE2020

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Only in your dreams, dan.

Only in your dreams....

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

Dismissed.

dumb dan,

You have 6 months before your fuhrer, "Tribune Caligula Fullashitticus

Rex" tRaitor/tRump, his cronies, and his minority following are *dismissed*

entirely..

"TICK! TICK! TICK," dumb dan.

Your time is running out..

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

Tay tay eeeena weeeeeeeeeeeeeend.

Right, Nell? (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/huh.gif)

Since the only reason we shut the country down and suspended the Constitution, was to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed, Why are we still shut down after we achieved that goal long ago?

Is it worth destroying American lives and the economy Just to protect one element for a brief time?

When did "flatten the curve" become "find a cure?"  We were never consulted about this change.  The governors never asked us for permission.

(https://images.hellogiggles.com/uploads/2016/01/30023049/live.gif)

http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?topic=288195.msg2471089#msg2471089 (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?topic=288195.msg2471089#msg2471089)

Here is why ^^^^^ (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)

An interesting question is ... why did we listen to China, and the WHO which told us to shut down the country in order to protect a small group of susceptible persons 98 % of whom will recover and not just target this susceptible group letting the other 98% of us go about our daily lives as we do with other flu like diseases (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/huh.gif)

Listen to Ben Carson tell us this was planned ...

https://youtube.com/v/6h29MQqzXiU

We did not listen to China.  However, Forrest Trump, at the beginning, was praising China, while you Boogaloos cheered him and China on. 

So the question for you Sinus, is when did you Boogaloos quit listening to China?


We did not listen to Who, which is one of the reasons we are in this mess that Forrest Trump and you Boogaloos created.  However, every single country that listened to WHO has seen their deaths drop significantly and most are successfully opening their economies.

Here is why Shithead Sinus is lying.  He is trying to cover the fact that Forrest Trump has caused the deaths of over 100,000 Americans and has destroyed our economy. 

Now that the economy is getting far worse, and the Trump Virus Wuhan Virus  death rate is again rising there is nothing left for the Boogaloos and Forrest Trump left to do.... except what they always do.  So how is that working for you now Suckbutt Sinus?


(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/upload/2k8b6b2070f3.jpg)

The question for lying booboob is then, ...

Why did the DemoncRats refuse to help causing more death but lied while

Trump saved American lives (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/huh.gif)

So WHAT was tRump's Plan?

And why didn't we use that?

poor delusional dan and the usual suspects.


the primary answer to your question is:  BECAUSE IT'S WORKING and IT AIN'T OVER YET

What, delusional fuhrer johniel?


It's working?  It's working to achieve the goal of not overwhelming our hospitals?  Was that ever an issue?  Were we ever in danger of overwhelming hospitals?  Was it really necessary to destroy so many American lives to do that?  Why are we continuing that draconian policy when it is clearly not necessary?

We were never close to the situation the shutdowns we were told were implemented to avoid.

If you have head lice, should you continue lighting your hair on fire?  But hey, IT'S WORKING and IT AIN'T OVER YET, right? (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)

What if you never had head lice?  What if you were never in danger of having head lice?  According to FJ, you should light your hair on fire … because it's working.

Why Dayaan. Stupid is as stupid does.

(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/upload/2k214c9a2a7e.jpg)

Well?  It has clearly been demonstrated that shutdowns are not necessary to avoid hospitals from being overwhelmed.  And there is no evidence that they ever were necessary.

So why are we still shut down?  There has been no logical explanation given to employ this technique to flatten the curve, when the "curve" is already flat as a pancake.

So what's the real reason for the shutdowns?

poor delusional dan...can't see beyond his little corner of the world, Fox News and Rush Limbaugh.

You asked the question, here's the answer from my perspective on the front line.

Pritzker says Illinois passes New York in per capita daily COVID-19 tests as officials report 1,545 new known cases and 146 more deaths (https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-pandemic-chicago-illinois-news-20200519-tclvoywcnre3tb5cpvwedj2hkm-story.html#nt=oft-Double%20Chain~Flex%20Feature~top-news-chain-1~cv-blog-3pm~~1~yes-art~curated~curatedpage)

It should be obvious,

the continued lockdowns are mostly in the Blue states that want to make Trump look bad because

they know they can’t beat Trump by running QPQ mumbles Alzheimer’s Biden !

Kane County Coronavirus Cases Jump Nearly 50 Percent In 1 Week

https://patch.com/illinois/geneva/s/h4av0/kane-county-coronavirus-cases-jump-nearly-50-percent-in-1-week?utm_term=article-slot-1&utm_source=newsletter-daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter

Thirty-eight people died in Kane County since last Monday, including 17 over the weekend, Coroner Rob Russell announced Monday.

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Sure I can.  Hospitals haven’t been overwhelmed ANYWHERE in the country, and never were in danger of that.  So what the hell are you talking about, Fuhrer johniel?  Are you delusional?
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You’re not on the front line.  You’re a radio station employee.


Speaking of Pritzker, what a great Nazi he would make.  Now he’s threatening jail time for those who ignore his orders.

Why are blue states so much more incompetent than red states in handling crises?

You can have your little panic party and cower in fear in your basements, but leave me out of it.  I’m gong to continue living my life.

WE are not in this together.  You might be, but I’m not.

Disaster Dan, we always knew that!  By the way, have you had any luck with your initiative to return Alaska to Russia?

Liar.


Nope.

Can we all agree that the curve has been flattened?  Hospitals were not overwhelmed.  We achieved the goal of the lockdowns.  Mission accomplished.

So why are we still locked down?

No, dan.

Not all of us can agree to that speculation..

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

It’s been all political since the first two weeks of the lockdown.

Some Red states are opening and are having no more to very few cases which will not overwhelm hospitals

Blue states are staying closed up or gradually reopening not based on science but based on the political agenda

of hating Trump!

Too bad their people are being used as expendable pawns in their game of hate and love of leftist tyranny

(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/cry.gif)
I feel so sorry for them but they are reaping what they have sown by voting (D) instead of for their own interests

So you think hospitals have been overwhelmed?  What is wrong with you?

Can we all agree the sun rises in the east?  According to LRW ... no.

Here in Alaska, our Republican governor is removing all restrictions back to pre-Wuhan conditions.  But our commie democrat mayor of Anchorage wants to keep us shut down for at least three more weeks.

There is a recall effort going on here.  Guess who it's for, the governor or the mayor?

Sorry to assume AK has a DemoncRat Govenor Dan

I knew about the Anchortown mayor being  DemoncRat

Here in Oregon we had a recall effort last year on our DemoncRat Govenator that didn’t make it to the ballot

We are told their will be another recall effort but they maybe waiting to see if she gets re-elected as we have all mail-in voting here !

Unfortunately 3 of the major cities here represent over half of the people of the state and vote (D)

Our only hope seems to be in the rest of the State is to vote locally for (R’s) who will not cowtow to the (D) tyranny coming from Eugene Salem and Portland (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/evil.gif)

dan.

You and stupid sine can paint all of the lies

you want to.

We are NOT out of the woods yet with Covid-19.

Your and tRaitor/tRump's lies do NOT change anything!

dismissed!

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

Being a FAKE news believer ...

Their goes Skanky denying reality again LOL ! (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/cheesy.gif)

It’s all the poor brainwashed low info poster has apparently (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)

Stupid kunt LRW,

What evidence do you have that we ever were in the woods???  No hospitals were overwhelmed.   They didn't come close.  So why do you still think that is going to happen in the future when it hasn't happened yet?  You still think we're on the front side of the curve?  Why?

LOLOLOLOL!

More of your psychotic, nonsensical, bullshit,

sine?

You don't fool anyone with your rantings.

Nor are you believed.

Your puny faith in tRump is your downfall and

your destination is Hell itself.

Poor stupid/sine..

Too stupid to know when it's been duped by the

likes of a swindler like tRump .

Stupid to make an enemy of me..

You ARE a fool.

But then, you are too stupid to be anything else..

dismissed..,

LAUGHING AT YOU!

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

You are a liar, dan.

What do you know, but what has been spoon fed up

your willing arse but what was put there by tRump and

the gop..

We ARE NOT out of the woods yet with Covid-19.

There WILL be a resurgence of cases, dan.

Worse than before, because tRump stupidly re-opened

the country too soon.

Mark my words.

You are going to eat yours.

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

So I lied when I said hospitals were not overwhelmed by Covid patients?

By all means, show me your evidence and I will take a look at it.  Otherwise, I will continue to go by the news reports.

Illinois announces 87 deaths from COVID-19, 2,268 more confirmed cases

https://www.nwherald.com/2020/05/21/illinois-announces-87-deaths-from-covid-19-2-268-more-confirmed-cases/a8md22c/

Another 87 people in Illinois died from COVID-19 and 2,268 more people have tested positive for the novel coronavirus, the Illinois Department of Public Health announced Thursday.

The state has a seven-day rolling positivity rate of 14%. Illinois has now seen 102,686 cases of the virus and 4,607 people have died since the pandemic began. A total of 672,020 people have been tested.

As of late Wednesday night, Illinois had 4,107 COVID-19 patients in the hospital, snapping an eight-day streak of decreased total hospitalizations. Of those, 1,088 were in the ICU and 609 were on ventilators.



oh, that's why.  but, we aren't "shut down"

So you are changing the reason why we were told to shut down?  It's no longer to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed?  Now you're saying it's to reduce cases and deaths?

But here's your problem.  Shutting down does NOTHING to reduce cases and deaths.  All it does is extend the time for those cases and deaths to occur.  In other words, those deaths were going to happen anyway, with or without being shut down.

So why are you still shut down???  You haven't provided a logical reason.

Having no facts to back up her nonsense

Skanky the admitted traitor to her race and country reverts to childish name calling

and accusations that fit her more than her betters she accuses  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/evil.gif)

Pooor deluded knumbskull (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)

Sine,

I don't think Lady Kunt even knows what we are discussing.

Dan,

All 50 States are either open or partially open.  So your argument is a moot issues...

You've already busted yourself as tRaitor and

fool, sine/snatch..

ALL one has to do is to bust you in your lies and

bullshit and you bust a gut and shit your panties!

You are a simpleton, and should be laughed at..

Loudly and often..

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

I think you are correct Dan (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)

All she has is crazy opinions & childish playground name calling (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/cheesy.gif)

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Yep.  She can’t remember what the conversation is about, but she keeps pasting her stock replies.

Dan, YOU are the one who keeps having to change the words in the replies in your replies to the replies.
It so sad that you can't even address the real reply, but have to lie about it 75% of the time.

Sinus is just sad, since it NEVER has facts, or links or sources...

I have an app that autocorrects lies.  So don’t blame me when you get caught in it.

just another example of anchoragedan's childish intellectual dishonesty.

If the govs don't get their churches opened up, right NOW, there will be hell to pay.(https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)(https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)

Duuuuhhhmbvik says my links, publish fact are not links or published facts

Makes you wonder what he’s been smokin (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/laugh.gif)

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Yep.

 
And then Dan comes back with his normal childish intellectual dishonesty, by misquoting jw2.


On top of that, Dan is so cowardly, he won't even identify the person he has quoted.  Why is that Dan?  Because the way I read your quote, "just another example of my childish intellectual dishonesty." and then you said "Yep", you just confermed that you ARE just another example of your childish intellectual dishonesty.

Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, Jig.  Sorry I couldn’t meet your high standards in how I retaliate to vicious attacks from libs.

In the mean time, it’s good to see that most of America is starting to take my advice that I gave over two months ago about never being a good idea to shut down.

Alaska checking results from coronavirus testing machines

https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Alaska-checking-results-from-coronavirus-testing-15294668.php

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Alaska’s public health labs are checking results from rapid COVID-19 testing machines amid concerns about their accuracy.

The Alaska Department of Health and Social Services has 113 testing machines to confirm suspected coronavirus cases, The Anchorage Daily News reported Monday.

The machines made by Abbott and called “ID NOW” were distributed to remote Alaska communities that needed fast test results. Days or weeks were previously needed in some places where samples had to be flown to other labs.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced last week that early data suggested the machines could produce potentially inaccurate results.

The main concerns are false negatives, which are tests incorrectly indicating patients do not have COVID-19. The FDA said it is investigating.

Dr. Bernd Jilly, director of Alaska’s public health laboratories, has known about the false negative issues since the testing machines were first deployed, he said.

Is that a threat, little chuckles??

LOLOLOL! What are you going to do?

Throw yourself on the ground, kicking and

screaming like your fuhrer, tRaitor/tRump??

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

A lot of churches are still opting out on services in their

church buildings.

What do you propose to do, little chuckles?

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

Who cares?

Now the rest of America is learning what I’ve been saying all along, that children are at virtually zero risk of getting seriously ill from the Wuhan virus.  I’ve always maintained that the schools should never have been closed.  That was a huge mistake.  After all the damage caused by the shutdowns, I get little satisfaction from being vindicated.

Remarkably, there are still some totalitarian governors keeping their states shut down despite the overwhelming evidence that it does more harm than good.

One Day Before Entering Phase 3, Illinois Reports 1,527 New Coronavirus Cases

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/one-day-before-entering-phase-3-illinois-reports-1527-new-coronavirus-cases/2279458/

With much of Illinois just one day away from its next phase of reopening, the state reported more than 1,500 new cases and over 100 fatalities in the last 24 hours.

The Illinois Department of Public Health confirmed 1,527 new cases of the virus in the last day, bringing the total number of infections since the pandemic began to 115,833.

With an additional 104 deaths, fatalities so far across the state now total 5,186, health officials said.

As of Thursday, 3,649 people remained hospitalized with COVID-19. Of those, 1,009 were in intensive care units and 576 were on ventilators.

A lot more people are being tested.  Thus a lot more people are testing positive, but also a lot more people are testing negative.  This also reveals that the death rate is lower.

Nile Ferguson, who predicted 80,000 deaths in Sweden, because they didn’t shut down, now admits he was wrong about shutdowns.  Sweden only had 4,000 deaths.  The shutdowns do nothing to prevent the spread of the virus.  Sweden is proof.

If Churches are so deemed "Necessary Businesses," then

they SHOULD be taxed like every other business.

Of course, they won't... The republicans like all of those Big donations

to their tRaitor cause from those churches...

*jmho*

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

Certain characteristics are generally attributed to churches.  These attributes of a church have been developed by the IRS and by court decisions.  They include:

Distinct legal existence
Recognized creed and form of worship
Definite and distinct ecclesiastical government
Formal code of doctrine and discipline
Distinct religious history
Membership not associated with any other church or denomination
Organization of ordained ministers
Ordained ministers selected after completing prescribed courses of study
Literature of its own
Established places of worship
Regular congregations
Regular religious services
Sunday schools for the religious instruction of the young
Schools for the preparation of its members

The IRS generally uses a combination of these characteristics, together with other facts and circumstances, to determine whether an organization is considered a church for federal tax purposes.

Source:  Publication 1828, Tax Guide for Churches and Religious Organizations.

Looks like they aren’t a business according to the IRS skanky ...
So, you are found to be fulla Barry Biden again skanky! LOL! (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/grin.gif)

tRaitor/tRump seems to think so, because he said that he thougt

they were..

Sit down, sine..

If you can do so with both of your feet firmly planted in your ass..

LAUGHING AT YOU AGAIN!

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

Who said he seems to think so Skanky (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/huh.gif)

You ?  Bwahahaha (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/grin.gif)

He Did say they are neccessary and  need to be open however, you sad clown (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)

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Every business is essential.  If they make a profit, then they hey should be taxed.  The bey should pay property tax too.  Even in New York.
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So do democrats.

tRatior/tRump SAID it, sine/skank...

Your and dumbass dan's lies can't change

the facts, no matter HOW MUCH you whine...

LOLOLOLOL!

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

No he didn’t sad clown skanky

He said “necessary,” “not necessary business”

Big difference as I posted what the IRS deems a church and a taxable business

You post only your own warped ideas here

Grow up and grow a brain child,

my posting facts is not whining, that’s what you do here  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/wink.gif)

What did I lie about, Lady kunt?  You can't say.

EVERYONE HERE knows your lies, dumbass/dan..

What you didn't take your alzheimers meds again today

or what..?

LAUGHING at your feigning ignorance about all of the out

and out lies you've told on these threads.....

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

What shut down?  People are out and about in mass, everywhere.   (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)

See?  I told you that you couldn't say what they are, Lady Kunt.  I was right!

Friday update: 13 new COVID-19 cases in Alaska, including two non-residents; more Providence cases

https://www.alaskapublic.org/2020/06/05/friday-update-13-new-covid-19-cases-in-alaska-including-two-non-residents/

Alaska recorded 13 new cases of COVID-19 Thursday, eight in Anchorage and five on the Kenai Peninsula.

Eleven of the new cases are in Alaska residents, and two are in nonresident workers in Anchorage — one from the seafood industry and the other from the tourism industry, according to data reported Friday on the state’s COVID-19 hub.

So?  All lives matter.

Study: Shutdowns Prevented 60M U.S. Coronavirus Infections (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/08/shutdowns-prevented-60-million-coronavirus-infections-us-study-finds/)

Shutdown orders prevented about 60 million novel coronavirus infections in the United States and 285 million in China, according to a research study (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2404-8_reference.pdf) published Monday that examined how stay-at-home orders and other restrictions limited the spread of the contagion.






The potential harm to our economy would have much higher without the shutdown.


The meat packing industry provides a good example.
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Nope.  Studies show that the shutdowns didn't prevent a single infection.  So why are we still shut down (except for the liberal riots)?

The WHO data apparently disagrees with NATURE

https://youtube.com/v/NQTBlbx1Xjs

Alaska sees highest active virus case count since start of pandemic
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/06/10/alaskans-hospitalized-with-positive-or-pending-covid-19-tests-nearly-doubled-in-a-day/

• Published 6 hours ago

[/SIZE]The number of people currently hospitalized in Alaska with confirmed COVID-19 cases or those under investigation nearly doubled this week, new state data shows.
There were a dozen people in that category on the Alaska Department of Health and Social Services database as of Tuesday. On Wednesday, that number jumped to 22.
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How many actually have symptoms?

How many are in the hospital?  11.

How many blacks were murdered in Chicago last weekend?  I know ... nobody cares.  Their lives don’t matter.

When liberal mayors and governors do nothing to stop the liberal protests, you KNOW the lockdowns were bullshit.  You know their political agenda trumps concern for public health.

Lockdowns dont work

States that didn’t lockdown had no more China virus cases than those that did

More people need to be “woke” to the fact that they have been played with disastrous results worse that the Plannedemic



https://youtube.com/v/bl-sZdfLcEk

29 more Alaskans test positive for virus in highest daily count yet as active cases continue to rise

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/06/13/29-new-alaskan-cases-state-sees-highest-daily-count-yet-as-active-cases-continue-to-rise/



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So what?

More testing means more cases that are 30 % false positives

Still 99% of positive cases recover

Which is why everyone should ...

So?  How many actually had symptoms?

Actually 99.6% recover.  For those under the age of 55, the common flu is more deadly than the Wuhan virus.

is that just your opinion on the percentage that recover dan or do you have something you can share as to where you got that percentage from?

No.  It's factual data.

Try doing some research for a change, you lazy bum.

so you're just making stuff up again is what you're saying.

Nope.  You failed to research, you lazy bum.

yep.   making stuff up and spouting it for fact is just what you've come to old man dan, the pitiful end for an old tea party has been.

Poor nutwit finds it easier to call childish names than looking up facts

What a zippy nutwit is (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/grin.gif)

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Well, we all know now how these predictions worked out (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)

If you wanna believe BS again,  it’s your privilege to stay consistent !


Remember,


DemoncRats lied while(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/evil.gif)
Trump saved lives (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/angel.gif)

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Multiple Florida Hospitals Run Out of ICU Beds as Coronavirus Cases Spike

https://www.newsweek.com/multiple-florida-hospitals-run-out-icu-beds-coronavirus-cases-spike-1511934?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0XOUgjKH9yjhaZ11BphgDmijl3MJaaTHxKnlsHmnlFkr13lVoaHJ42uhA#Echobox=1592503654

As Florida health officials report another record single-day increase in cases of the novel coronavirus, new data shows hospitals across the state have filled most or all available beds in their respective intensive care units.

Numerous Florida medical facilities reported dwindling ICU bed availability on Thursday, with several reporting no availability at all, according to the latest report published by Florida's Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA). Palm Beach County was among those statewide regions where the availability of beds was most scarce. An accompanying report from AHCA shows about 75 percent of available hospital beds statewide are currently occupied.

Nope.  Fake news.  You can't believe a word the tds libs tell you.

Those people didn't all die from Wuhan Pelosi virus.  Most ofthen died from something else.  They just happened to have Wuhan Pelosi virus at TOD.

poor danny...all he has left is his delusions and lies.




Alaska’s active COVID-19 case count hits new high as 25 more people test positive

June 17, 2020

https://www.alaskapublic.org/2020/06/17/alaskas-active-covid-19-case-count-hits-new-high-as-25-more-people-test-positive/


Total cases of COVID-19 in Alaska surpass 700, DHSS announce 12 new cases

https://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Total-cases-of-COVID-19-in-Alaska-surpass-700-DHSS-announce-12-new-cases-571349051.html


Jun 18, 2020

Twelve Alaskans have died from COVID-19 since March.

The state reports that 18 Alaskans are currently hospitalized with COVID-19, or are suspected of having it. This is a decrease of five from Wednesday.


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COVID-19 chart the Alaska Department of Health and Social Services

I agree with fuhrer johniel.  All the left has are lies.

Good luck to California trying to force 50 million people to cover their faces.  There aren't enough jail cells.

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All of them are visitors.  So it's not because of Alaskan behavior.

That's it?  Then why are we still shut down, deceptive fuhrer johnny boy?


That's it?  Then why are we still shut down?


That's it?  Then why are we still shut down


That's it?  Then why are we still shut down?

Alaska’s second wave of rising virus cases continues with 21 more residents testing positive

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/06/20/alaskas-second-wave-of-virus-cases-continues-with-21-more-residents-testing-positive/

Published 14 hours ago

The number of active COVID-19 cases reported Saturday among Alaskans reached the highest level yet as the state contends with its second wave of rising coronavirus cases since the pandemic began.

State health department data released Saturday showed 267 active resident cases. That number, which peaked at 188 during Alaska’s first wave of active infections, has been growing steadily this month after the state in May lifted most pandemic restrictions on businesses and social gatherings. The loosening of restrictions came after weeks of low daily case counts and efforts to expand the state’s health care capacity.

My county has more confirmed cases and deaths that the entire state of Alaska.  The number of confirmed Covid-19 cases in Alaska has grown by 6x since June 1st.  Statistically significant.

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Second wave?  I thought this was still the first wave.


That's it?  Why are we still shut down?


Nope.  27 was the highest.


Except nobody is showing any symptoms.  What exactly is there to contend with?


That's it?  Why are we still shut down?


Actually it's because seasonal workers have been arriving from the lower 48.  It's not because Alaskans are infecting each other.


There shouldn't have been any restrictions at all.  I demonstrated how I was right many times.


Because our testing has exploded.  So naturally, more cases will be revealed.  What really matters is how many deaths, how many hospitalizations, and how many have symptoms.  The fact is very few people have died, been hospitalized, and have even shown symptoms.

I haven't heard of anyone who was infected, let alone had symptoms, was hospitalized, or died from it.  It's basically non-existent here.  So why are we still shut down?

So?

Florida Passes 100,000 COVID-19 Cases

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/22/881734964/florida-passes-100-000-covid-19-cases?utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&fbclid=IwAR1KHolWm7ty1PonMQSeepYFZwj4w7Ym0w-ygGSaBroAkL09_WNSiIzLWWI

Florida has hit a grim milestone—passing 100,000 cases of the coronavirus. The latest report from the state's Department of Health adds 2,926 new infections to the total number of COVID-19 cases, which now stands at 100,217 with 3,173 deaths.

Along with Florida, six other states have registered more than 100,000 cases: New York, California, New Jersey, Illinois, Texas and Massachusetts.

Like some other states, Florida has seen a surge of COVID-19 infections in recent weeks. A new record high of 4,049 new cases was set Saturday.

So?

Florida is a battleground Trump leaning state with a score of electoral votes, that's why "so?"

remember, Alaska has just 3 electoral votes.


won't do your Fuhrer Trump any good, if his voters are dead or just pissed off for getting the Covid-19

then, there is Texazzastan...a real red state:



RECORD BREAKING COVID-19 HOSPITALIZATIONS IN TEXAS:


Texas Gov. Greg Abbott provides the latest coronavirus updates for the state.


Texas has reported record-high hospitalizations for 10 straight days, up 126% statewide since Memorial Day, as the number of new cases continues to rise steadily as well with over 113,000 confirmed cases across the state.


Texas had one of the most aggressive reopening schedules, having some businesses open as early as May 1.


Local leaders are calling on Texans to remain vigilant and cautious as the state deals with this new spike.


Austin Mayor Steve Adler wrote in an open letter that if numbers continue to rise, then leaders must ‘choose between returning to sheltering at home or watching as our hospitals get overwhelmed and we suffer many preventable deaths.’




that's what happens when one takes preventative health care advice from a guy who has unprotected extramarital sex with a porn star.  (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/cool.gif)

Gov Abbott had unprotected sex win a porn star (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/huh.gif)

Got proof, ya goof JW (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)

no sine.  try and pay attention.  your Fuhrer Trump behaved that irresponsibly with Stormy Daniels, while his wife was pregnant.

Fuhrer Trump even had to pay off Ms. Daniels to keep you from knowing that...and then he reneged on the deal.


now, back to answering Covid-Dan...

Medical science is now telling us that the Covid isn't going away with "herd immunity" or any short of a vaccine.  Until that happens, mitigation like masks, social distancing and smaller indoor occupancy will keep us from having to shut down again.  Unless you're willing to take responsibility for the deaths of innocent fellow citizens.




Antibody levels in recovered COVID-19 patients decline quickly: research

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-antibody/antibody-levels-in-recovered-covid-19-patients-decline-quickly-research-idUSKBN23T1CJ?fbclid=IwAR1x702DWdlsZKSzRNxGJyUZwn8k8mfa7ye0GlbVBdBkkpwXa4f4fCNs3VM

Levels of an antibody found in recovered COVID-19 patients fell sharply in 2-3 months after infection for both symptomatic and asymptomatic patients, according to a Chinese study, raising questions about the length of any immunity against the novel coronavirus.

The research, published in Nature Medicine on June 18, highlights the risks of using COVID-19 ‘immunity passports’ and supports the prolonged use of public health interventions such as social distancing and isolating high-risk groups, researchers said.

Health authorities in some countries such as Germany are debating the ethics and practicalities of allowing people who test positive for antibodies to move more freely than others who don’t.

The research, which studied 37 symptomatic patients and 37 asymptomatic patients, found that of those who tested positive for the presence of the IgG antibody, one of the main types of antibodies induced after infection, over 90% showed sharp declines in 2-3 months.

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So?  You haven't connected the two.

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And Crystal Lake has none.

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What makes you think the democrats in Florida won't die from the Wigan virus?

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Right on!

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Oh yes they are!  In fact, they are telling us that if we don't get herd immunity, it will definitely come back. 


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Or you can just choose NOT to shut down.  Remember, the Wuhan-fuhrer johniel virus is not a problem for the vast majority of people.  There is no reason for them to shut down and hide from the virus.  It is only that small population of vulnerable people who need protection.


Healthy people don't need to mitigate.  Only the vulnerable do.  When healthy people develop herd immunity, the vulnerable will become protected.

Unless you're willing to take responsibility for the deaths of innocent fellow citizens.


I am taking responsibility for preventing the deaths of innocent and guilty citizens BY promoting herd immunity among the healthy population.  With each new symptom-less infection, the less chance the johniel virus has of persisting.

Poor fuhrer johnny boy.  He's jumping overboard when the ship is sailing along just fine.

Cases are rising because TESTING is rising.

Notice how deaths and hospitalizations are down.  Those are the numbers that really matter.  Positive test results don't tell you how many people who are falling ill.  How many are testing NEGATIVE?  How come the lib media never tell you those numbers?

you, obviously, have not spoken to people who live or media from Florida, Georgia, Texas, California or Arizona.

Nevada and Vegas are on the brink of shutting down, again.

all because selfish azzholes like daniel can't wear a mask.


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I used to live there.


Actually, they are on the brink of moving to phase three the end of this month.  Try doing some research.


I'm selfish???  Not you?  I'm not the one demanding people comply with demands and mandates.  That be YOOZE!

BTW, you know what people do when it gets hot outside, like in Florida, Georgia, Texas, California, and Nevada?  They go indoors for air conditioning.

How many people are dying is what matters.  Not the number of positive test results, fuhrer johniel.

The 3 most populous states are breaking coronavirus records, leading to fears of 'apocalyptic' surges

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/25/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html



at this point, one has to suspect that anchoragedan is an end times believer looking to advance the rapture.

For deaths?  Hospitalizations?  People falling ill?  Or just for positive test results?


What is apocalyptic about getting an infection that has no impact on your health?


Fuhrer johniel hates black people.

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Alaska’s top doctor urges wearing masks to lawmakers, who ask why the state hasn’t mandated them

https://www.ktoo.org/2020/06/26/alaskas-top-doctor-urges-wearing-masks-to-lawmakers-who-ask-why-the-state-hasnt-mandated-them/

Alaska’s chief medical officer gave several reasons on Wednesday for why Alaskans should wear masks when they can’t stay six feet away from others. But she didn’t say that they have to do it.

Some Alaska lawmakers said they want to know why the state hasn’t announced more changes in response to the recent rise in COVID-19 cases in the state.

Over the past month, the number of confirmed, active cases of the virus has grown from roughly 50 to more than 300.

Rep. Tiffany Zulkosky, D-Bethel, said that many Alaskans aren’t following advice from state officials to wear masks when social distancing isn’t possible.

So, she asked Alaska Chief Medical Officer Dr. Anne Zink about it during a House Health and Social Services Committee meeting:

“Would you advise a temporary mandate where social distancing isn’t possible, to be effective in curbing the spread of the virus in Alaska?” Zulkosky said.

Zink said scientific data is increasingly showing that wearing a mask is an important tool in stopping the coronavirus.

“From a health perspective, my goal is to have as many people wearing masks when they can’t social distance as possible, and whatever tools we can use to get there,” she said. “There’s a lot of debate on which tools are most effective, for all sorts of different reasons. But we just need to try to address the message consistently that a mask is an important tool moving forward.” 

But Zink said the state isn’t emphasizing broad mandates, opting instead for more “surgical” and geographically targeted responses to outbreaks.

On Friday, Anchorage Mayor Ethan Berkowitz announced a mandate for residents there to wear masks in all public, indoor spaces.

Because of an agenda to destroy the economies and bring in the NWO, of course ! (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)

OSHA Thoughts on Masks from a friend -
I am OSHA 10&30 certified. I know some of you are too.
I don’t really know WHY OSHA hasn’t come forward and stopped the nonsense

BUT I wanna cover 3 things

1. N95 masks and masks with exhale ports
2. surgical masks
3. filter or cloth masks

Okay so upon further inspection OSHA says some masks are okay and not okay in certain situations.
If you’re working with FUMES and AEROSOL CHEMICALS and you (EMPLOYER) give your employees the wrong masks and they get sick — you CAN BE SUED.

• N95 masks: are designed for CONTAMINATED ENVIRONMENTS. That means when you exhale through the N95 mask, you are exhaling into a contaminated environment. The exhale from N95 masks are vented to breath straight out without filtration. THEY DO NOT FILTER THE AIR ON THE WAY OUT. They don’t need to.
Conclusion: if you’re in a store and someone with Covid has an N95 mask on, his unfiltered covid breath is being exhaled into the air in the store (because it was designed for already contaminated environments, it’s not filtering your air on the way out)!!!

• Surgical Mask: these masks were designed and approved for STERILE ENVIRONMENTS. The amount of particles and contaminants in the outside and indoor environments where people are, are CLOGGING these masks very Very quickly. The moisture from your breath combined with the clogged mask will render it “useless” IF you come in contact with Covid and your MASK TRAPS it You become a walking virus dispenser!! Every time you put your mask on you are breathing the germs from EVERYWHERE you went. They should be changed or thrown out every “20-30 MINUTES- in a non sterile environment”!!

*CLOTH MASKS: today three people pointed to their masks as they walked by me entering Lowe’s. They said “ya gotta wear your mask BRO” I said very clearly “those masks don’t work bro, in fact they “MAKE YOU SICKER” they “pshh’d” me.
By now hopefully you all know CLOTH MASKS DO NOT FILTER ANYTHING!!! They offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide!! Cloth masks TRAP this carbon dioxide INSIDE the mask. IT ACTUALLY PUTS YOUR HEALTH at RISK. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask.

ULTIMATE ANSWER:
N95 blows the virus into the air from a contaminated person!
The SURGICAL MASK is NOT designed for the outside world and will NOT FILTER the virus upon inhaling through it. It’s filtration works on the exhale. (Like a vacuum bag it only works one way)

CLOTH MASKS are WORSE than no mask. WORSE!!!
The CDC wants us to keep wearing masks. The masks don’t work.

DO:
Wash your hands!
Sanitize your hands!
Don’t touch stuff. Wash your phone.
Don’t touch people.
And keep your distance.
Why? Because your breath stinks, your deodorant is failing, your shoes are old and stink, that shirts not clean, I like my space. Trust me I can hear you from here. Lots of reasons. But trust me. The masks do not work.

*Occupational Safety & Hazard Association sited.
The top American organization for safety.
They regulate and educate asbestos workers, surgical rooms, you name it.
If your mask gives you security wear it, just know it is a FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY.

If stores and local governments stopped enforcing it no one would continue this nonsense!”

COVID-19 cases double in Seward as state of Alaska reports 33 new cases, some with ties to bars

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/06/28/covid-19-cases-double-in-seward-as-state-of-alaska-announces-33-new-cases-some-with-ties-to-bars/

The number of COVID-19 cases doubled in Seward on Sunday as 33 cases were confirmed throughout Alaska by the Department of Health and Human Services. The cases were found in 29 Alaskans and four nonresidents.



COVID-19 numbers spike; state reports 29 new cases in Alaska

https://www.ktuu.com/content/news/571529771.html

Alaska has seen another increase in active COVID-19 cases with the Department of Health and Social Services reporting 29 new COVID-19 cases in the state. State records show 348 active cases in Alaska residents.


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Are you planning a trip to Alaska JW (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/huh.gif)

You seem to be overly interested in it lately !

It’s one of the safest places from the virus one could go to, like where I live which is Red not and not the more dangerous Blue !

Yes Z !

They should all be indicted for their crimes which were not only against Trump

but against the American people !

did you say something zippy?

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Excellent likeness of you nutwit

I see why you are so fascinated with yourself (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)

Because they don't work and they cause health problems for healthy people.

Wanna bet Alaska top Dr here is a DemoncRat (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/huh.gif)

So?  Did any of them actually get sick?


So?  Did any of them actually get sick?

Is 29 people in Alaska testing positive for a virus that has no ill affects a bigger problem than 18 people getting shot to death in Chicago?

I don't think you have your priorities right, fuhrer johniel.  I think you have a personal agenda.

I told my commie lawmaker (who strongly supports wearing the symbol of fear and surrender), that I absolutely oppose MANDATORY mask wearing, and showed him the science against it.

Like a good commie, he ignored common sense.

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gee WWV10MHZ, this thread is about the Covid_19 shutdown, not BLM or bricks.  Go back to watching your gay porn.


poor anchoragedan...if you insist on being difficult with the flight attendants...you may never get back from your Vegas trip.



Alaska Airlines says it may deny future travel to passengers who refuse to wear a mask

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/aviation/2020/06/30/alaska-airlines-announces-it-may-deny-future-travel-to-passengers-who-refuse-to-wear-a-mask/

Alaska Airlines announced Tuesday that any passenger who repeatedly refuses to comply with the airline’s mandatory mask policy while on board could have their future travel suspended.

Flight attendants are now able to issue a warning, in the form of a yellow card, that means the passenger’s travel will be reviewed and “could be suspended for a period,” the airline said in a statement. “It’s a decision that would not be made lightly.”

We aren't still shut down Dip Shit Dan. 

Because you and your Dear Leader opened up the whole country and now, thanks to you, you boobaloo butt hole buddies and Putin's Pussy, so many Americans are now dying so fast that the economy has come to almost a complete halt and America is now being shut down by the Trump Virus Wuhan Virus .  And most of the rest of the world is opening up and their economies are recovering.

Everyone told you stupid fucks how this was going to end and you fuck heads went ahead and opened up the country anyway.  If any of you boobaloo shits survive this America is going to have all your fucking treasonous asses.

HELL YEA, Gwboolean!

RIGHT ON!  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/hattip.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/emo_hattip.gif)

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

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waavy,

DO TRY to come up with some better material

for your posts..

All that you are posting up to this point is just down

right laughable...

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

WWV... (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)

Your dumb posts are stuff of unbelieved, disreputable,

legend, sine/stupid..

What are you cheering about?

MUHAHAHAHA!

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.* (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

What the hell are you babbling about, fuhrer johniel?

Yes we are, dipshit.


Nope.  We don't have any power to do that.  Only the states and cities can do that.


So we ARE still shut down?


So when you said we AREN'T shut down, that was a lie, right?


Make up your mind, dipshit.  Is the country open or not???

Alaska records another 42 virus cases among residents and nonresidents
Anchorage Daily News - Published 7/1/20

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/07/01/alaska-records-another-42-virus-cases-among-residents-and-nonresidents/#_




State records another daily high with 50 more Alaskan and nonresident COVID-19 cases
Anchorage Daily News - Published 4 hours ago

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/07/02/state-records-another-daily-high-with-50-more-alaskan-and-nonresident-covid-19-cases/


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So?  How many actually got sick?  How many died?


So?  How many actually got sick?  How many died?

Is it a problem if you test positive and never have any symptoms and don't transmit it to anyone else?

Is it a problem if you contract the virus, never have symptoms and don't transmit it to anyone else?

Why are you trying to make me panic?  Why are you trying to make me afraid?  What do you have to gain from that?  I can tell you right now you are wasting your time.  I am not going to panic.

Nobody is getting sick anymore, even though they are testing positive.  So why are we still shut down?

The curve is not a hill.  It's a valley!

Alaska logs 15th death and another record day of COVID-19 cases ahead of Fourth of July weekend

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/07/03/alaska-logs-15th-death-and-another-record-day-of-covid-19-cases-ahead-of-fourth-of-july-weekend/
Published 3 hours ago

In the run-up to the Independence Day weekend, Alaska recorded another death and another record-high daily count of new COVID-19 cases involving Alaskans and nonresidents, state data showed Friday.

A 15th Alaskan has died with the virus, according to data posted Friday from the Alaska Department of Health and Social Services.



46 Alaskans test positive for COVID-19, Total case count in Alaska now 1,063

https://www.ktuu.com/content/news/46-Alaskans-test-positive-for-COVID-19-Total-case-count-in-Alaska-now-1063-571619261.html
Jul 03, 2020

The State of Alaska has announced 46 new positive cases of COVID-19 in Alaska among residents. This is a new daily high total.

One new death was reported on the state's COVID-19 Data Hub. 15 Alaskans have died with COVID-19 since March.

This brings the total number of COVID-19 cases to 1,063. Currently, there are 509 active cases and 539 recovered cases. There are 69 total hospitalizations.

Deaths are dropping everywhere even in Alaska (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/emo_hattip.gif)

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Ah hah!  I caught you!  So you admit he didn’t die FROM the virus, but died from something else, but coincidentally also happened o have tested positive for the virus.


So why are we still shut down?

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It’s been 3 months since an Alaskan has died FROM the virus.

Miami-Dade imposes curfew heading into 4th of July weekend

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505800-miami-dade-imposes-curfew-heading-into-4th-of-july-weekend

Miami-Dade County in Florida is imposing a curfew heading into the July 4 weekend to try to prevent exacerbating the burgeoning coronavirus outbreak in the state.



Florida "heading a million miles an hour in the wrong direction" as COVID-19 cases keep rising, doctor says

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-covid-19-cases-rising-miami-dade/

Florida's most populous county instituted an overnight curfew, and beaches and businesses began closing down again as the state's number of COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations keep rising. The grim trend threatened a further spread during the festive Fourth of July weekend.


"Right now, we are heading a million miles an hour in the wrong direction," Dr. Aileen Marty told "CBS This Morning" lead national correspondent David Begnaud. Marty is an infectious disease expert who helped Miami-Dade write its reopening rules but she says not enough people are following them

"it's absolutely the saddest thing, the most unnecessary situation that we're finding ourselves in," Dr. Marty said. "And it's behaviorally driven."



the deaths of other Americans is of little consequences to your political cult of Fuhrer Trump.

Looks like Miami residents should pick a new mayor.

no sine, Deaths in Alaska from Covid-19 are increasing.



For the second day in a row, the state reports an Alaskan has died of COVID-19 as number new cases climbs

https://www.ktoo.org/2020/07/04/for-the-second-day-in-a-row-the-state-reports-an-alaskan-has-died-of-covid-19-as-number-new-cases-climbs/

Another Alaskan has died with COVID-19 — the 16th death of an Alaskan from the virus.

Details about the death reported on Saturday  were not immediately available. However, the state reported on Friday that the 15th person who died was an Anchorage man in his 80s who died in June.

State health officials reported that by the end of the day on Friday, 55 new cases had been identified:  48 residents and 7 non-residents.

The majority of the new cases are in Anchorage where 32 residents have tested positive for the virus. Health officials there released a list of bars and other establishments where people who have had COVID-19 have been. They’ve asked people who have visited those places to monitor themselves for symptoms and get tested.



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So what?


“A man in his eighties died”
Of what (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/huh.gif)

J
CDC wants states to count 'probable' covid-19 cases and ... (https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-wants-states-to-count-probable-coronavirus-cases-and-deaths-but-most-arent-doing-it/2020/06/07/4aac9a58-9d0a-11ea-b60c-3be060a4f8e1_story.html)
www.washingtonpost.com › investigations › 2020/06/07 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-wants-states-to-count-probable-coronavirus-cases-and-deaths-but-most-arent-doing-it/2020/06/07/4aac9a58-9d0a-11ea-b60c-3be060a4f8e1_story.html)
Jun 8, 2020 - CDC wants states to count 'probable' coronavirus cases and deaths, but ... that the states not disclosing probable cases and deaths include some of the ...





More testing means more cases that are 30 % false positives

Still 99% of positive cases recover

Which is why everyone should ...

CV-19 deaths in Alaska are NOT increasing !

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Nope.  No Alaskan has died FROM the virus in three months.


Dying from something else while also having the virus does not count as dying FROM the virus.

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And..., of course you have concrete evidence of

all of the bullshit you just posted, right, waavy?

Or are you just blowing more smoke out of your

anal orifice again?

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

Published 2 hours ago - 7-6-20

Number of Alaska COVID-19 patients hospitalized reaches new high

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/07/06/number-of-alaska-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-reaches-new-high/

The number of people hospitalized with COVID-19 in Alaska hit a new high, with 16 residents sick enough to require medical attention as of Monday.

The state also logged a new record of 622 residents with active infections, while 526 people have recovered from the virus.

As of Saturday, there were more infected Alaskans than recovered ones for the first time since the pandemic spiked here in April.

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16, eh?  That leaves 984 available beds.  So?  How many were hospitalized FROM Wuhan virus?  Is that what put them there?  Or was it something else?  Only 15% of hospitalizations are due to Wuhan.


Deaths are down for the 12th straight week.  So why are we still shut down?

Alaska reports 17th death linked to COVID-19 and 4 more hospitalizations

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/07/07/alaska-reports-17th-death-linked-to-covid-19-and-4-new-hospitalizations/

Another Alaskan has died while infected with the novel coronavirus and four more have become ill enough to be admitted to the hospital, the state health department reported Tuesday.

The newly reported hospitalizations bring the state’s total to 78 since the start of the pandemic.

Alaska has been seeing a steady rise in active coronavirus cases since late May, when the state lifted most pandemic-related restrictions in response to low daily case counts and a boost in personal protective equipment and health care capacity. Several cases have been tied to bars and other entertainment establishments, and state and local health officials urged Alaskans to take proactive measures to stem the spread of the virus ahead of the Independence Day holiday last week.





23 more test COVID-19 positive, Alaska records 17th death

https://www.ktva.com/story/42341910/23-more-test-covid19-positive-alaska-records-17th-death

The Alaska Department of Health and Social Services reports 19 more Alaskans and four more nonresidents have tested positive for COVID-19. The state also reported one new death.

Anchorage reported 13 of the new cases within the municipality. The state has not released its official totals by community.

As of Tuesday, 1,184 Alaskans and 241 nonresidents tested positive for COVID-19 in the state. The state's active case total is now at 607.

With the additional death reported Tuesday, seventeen Alaskans' deaths have been attributed to the disease.

Alaska reports 17th death linked to COVID-19 and 4 more hospitalizations

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/07/07/alaska-reports-17th-death-linked-to-covid-19-and-4-new-hospitalizations/

Another Alaskan has died while infected with the novel coronavirus and four more have become ill enough to be admitted to the hospital, the state health department reported Tuesday.

The newly reported hospitalizations bring the state’s total to 78 since the start of the pandemic.

Alaska has been seeing a steady rise in active coronavirus cases since late May, when the state lifted most pandemic-related restrictions in response to low daily case counts and a boost in personal protective equipment and health care capacity. Several cases have been tied to bars and other entertainment establishments, and state and local health officials urged Alaskans to take proactive measures to stem the spread of the virus ahead of the Independence Day holiday last week.





23 more test COVID-19 positive, Alaska records 17th death

https://www.ktva.com/story/42341910/23-more-test-covid19-positive-alaska-records-17th-death

The Alaska Department of Health and Social Services reports 19 more Alaskans and four more nonresidents have tested positive for COVID-19. The state also reported one new death.

Anchorage reported 13 of the new cases within the municipality. The state has not released its official totals by community.

As of Tuesday, 1,184 Alaskans and 241 nonresidents tested positive for COVID-19 in the state. The state's active case total is now at 607.

With the additional death reported Tuesday, seventeen Alaskans' deaths have been attributed to the disease.

Obviously Because of leftist politics Dan

Leftist policies are killing our kids (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/evil.gif)

So he didn't die FROM the Wuhan virus?  He just happened to have it while he died from something else?

So tell me, how many Alaskans ACTUALLY DIED BECAUSE of the Wuhan virus?  Two?  Three maybe?


So?  If they are not feeling ill, what's the big deal?

Yep.  If Biden wins the election, Shazam, the Wuhan epidemic suddenly will disappear from the headlines.  Liberal governors will reopen their states.

Alaska logs nearly 50 new COVID-19 cases, 1 hospitalization but no new deaths

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/07/08/alaska-logs-nearly-50-new-covid-19-cases-one-hospitalization-but-no-new-deaths/

Alaska reported a near-record increase in the number of confirmed novel coronavirus cases on Wednesday, with 40 new cases in residents and seven in nonresidents.

One more infected resident required hospitalization Tuesday, for a total of 79 since the pandemic began in March, according to the Alaska Department of Health and Social Services COVID-19 dashboard.

Statewide hospital census information showed 30 people hospitalized Wednesday morning with either positive tests or pending results, but that data can change quickly.

No new deaths were reported Wednesday. Seventeen Alaskans have died with coronavirus listed as a contributing cause. The latest victim announced Tuesday was a woman in her 70s from Wasilla with underlying health problems.

It wasn’t clear how many of the new cases involved people with symptoms of the virus, as opposed to asymptomatic people who got tested for travel or other requirements.

Hospital and state health officials this week said health care capacity remains healthy but they’re watching the rising numbers given Alaska’s limited hospital resources.

So?

Hospital and state health officials this week said health care capacity remains healthy but they’re watching the rising numbers given Alaska’s limited hospital resources.

Yep.  We're at 1% capacity.

Alaska’s daily COVID-19 count hits another near-record

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/07/09/alaska-records-another-near-record-increase-in-daily-confirmed-coronavirus-cases/

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Most of the new cases in the past few weeks are in people in their 20s, 30s and 40s — in that order, according to state epidemiologist Dr. Joe McLaughlin. People at the highest risk for hospitalizations and death, however, are older with underlying medical conditions.

Other states with spikes in cases among younger people have experienced a subsequent uptick in cases involving older residents more likely to be hospitalized.

That’s why they continue to urge Alaskans to wear face coverings in public places where social distancing isn’t possible, limit their exposure to people outside their households, and practice good hygiene and hand-washing protocols.

The state’s high daily counts continued Thursday, when the state reported 46 Alaskans and three nonresidents newly testing positive.

It wasn’t clear how many of the new cases involved people showing symptoms.

Generally, 60% to 70% of Alaska’s more recent positive tests involved people with symptoms, according to state epidemiologist Louisa Castrodale. Early in the pandemic in March, nearly all of them were symptomatic because tests were only being performed on people with specific symptoms.

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So?  Nobody is getting sick.  How many are getting sick in Crystal Lake?


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There is no evidence that reduces the risk of getting infected.  It's just a test for liberals to see how far they can go to control the population.


The way they are counting Wuhan cases now is shocking.  If someone complains of 2 of the symptoms, they are automatically added to the case count whether or not they actually test positive for the Wuhan virus.  AND they count everyone who came in contact with that person as a Wuhan case whether or not they test positive or even have synptoms.


The numbers are totally manipulated.  They can't be trusted or believed.

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Alaska’s confirmed coronavirus infections hit new daily high of 77

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/07/11/alaskas-confirmed-coronavirus-infections-hit-new-daily-high-of-77-as-hospitalizations-also-rise/

Published 5 hours ago

Alaska reported 77 new confirmed coronavirus infections around the state Saturday — the highest daily case count since the pandemic began.

As reported by the state on Saturday, five more residents also became ill enough with the virus to need hospitalization. A total of 85 Alaskans have been hospitalized since March.

Alaska’s number of cases has risen rapidly over the past month, but the state’s per capita hospitalization rate remains far lower than most other states and just 10% of those in harder-hit states like California and Texas, according to The Covid Tracking Project. Alaska’s death rate is 2.3% per 100,000, lowest of any state except Hawaii. Alaska is also testing more people than many states.

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Good for Alaska, eh JW (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


Jealousy becomes you, so why not switch to the winning side for a change, loser (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/huh.gif)


Alaska’s death rate is 2.3% per 100,000, lowest of any state except Hawaii. Alaska is also testing more people than many states.