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Title: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: wvit1001 on 11 13, 19, 09:00:06:PM
Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses. They Went for Delay Tactics, Half-Truths, and Utter Bullshit.

The case is simple. The president* abused his power in pursuit of his latest scam.

The President* of the United States ran a cheap-assed, third-rate shakedown of the new president of an embattled ally for the purpose of enlisting the new president of the embattled ally in the ratfcking of the 2020 election. Both of those are crimes. Putting them together is a third crime.

Because, as was obvious from every second of the minority’s participation in Tuesday’s hearings, there simply is no defense for what the president* did.

George Kent and Bill Taylor were exemplary witnesses. (Taylor, in particular, could develop a lucrative side gig consulting for law firms as to how prepare people to testify.) They never strayed beyond their obvious mandates, which was to tell the story of the shakedown from the point of view of career diplomats who suddenly found themselves submarined by a cabal led by the president*’s half-mad personal lawyer.

And Kent was firm in his testimony that neither Joe Biden nor his son, Hunter, had done anything untoward as regards the removal of a corrupt state prosecutor.

Here’s how Nunes kicked off, because this pretty much sums up the entire Republican case.


https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29788717/republicans-impeachment-hearings-devin-nunes/


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Dan on 11 13, 19, 10:07:53:PM
Why should they?  They’re irrelevant.  They have the actual transcript to know what happened.

Who cares about opinions when we have the facts?


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: wvit1001 on 11 13, 19, 10:11:37:PM
Trying to deflect to how Obama gave blankets and trump gave missiles?

That doesn’t justify trump's withholding aid until a personal favor to benefit Trump’s re-election campaign was granted does it dan?


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: D2D on 11 13, 19, 10:30:59:PM
Not a single witness had any facts on his side only rumor and innuendo!


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: D2D on 11 13, 19, 10:42:35:PM
Wvit what good does blankets do when you are being invaded by a hostile power known for mass murder?


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Dan on 11 13, 19, 10:45:20:PM
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Trying to deflect to how Obama gave blankets and trump gave missiles? 
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Nope.  I’m shouting it from the roof top.
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That doesn’t justify trump's withholding aid until a personal favor to benefit Trump’s re-election campaign was granted does it dan?
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I have no idea what you’re talking about.  That never happened.  Stick to facts.  Avoid fantasy.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: chuck_curtis on 11 13, 19, 11:27:10:PM
They don't have anything of any significance to question.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: omiaqt on 11 13, 19, 11:33:12:PM
Did either of the Schiff witnesses gave firsthand knowledge of any of the event?


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: chuck_curtis on 11 13, 19, 11:36:33:PM
Those two are the slime balls' best witnesses.  Hahahahaha!


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: wvit1001 on 11 13, 19, 11:38:57:PM
who said they were the best witness' ?   they were just the first to testify in the public hearings.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: wvit1001 on 11 13, 19, 11:42:54:PM
Trump called Sondland while Sondland was in a Ukrainian restaurant, speaking on an unsecured phone, loud enough for other people at dinner to hear.

One of those people was David Holmes, a staff member of Bill Taylor who testified today. Holmes will testify later this week, Sondland will testify next week.

Holmes reported to his boss, Taylor, that he heard the contents of the call with Sondland and those contents are this:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/impeachment-hearings-david-holmes-bill-taylor-staffer-who-overheard-trump-ask-about-investigations-set-to-appear/

"The member of my staff could hear President Trump on the phone, asking Ambassador Sondland about 'the investigations,'" Taylor, the chargé d'affaires at the U.S. embassy in Kiev, said in his opening statement. "Ambassador Sondland told President Trump that the Ukrainians were ready to move forward."

Taylor said the staff member, now known to be Holmes, asked Sondland after the call what the president "thought about Ukraine."

"Ambassador Sondland responded that President Trump cares more about the investigations of Biden, which Giuliani was pressing for," Taylor said,
indicating he was not aware of the conversation at the time of his deposition in October, and only learned about it last Friday.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: chuck_curtis on 11 13, 19, 11:43:00:PM
Of course they are their best witnesses, because they are first, front and center.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: dont-blameme on 11 13, 19, 11:45:35:PM
wvit has no direct knowledge of who called who and what was said, but yet wvit claims to know what was said by all parties on the phone call by what wvit was told.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Dan on 11 13, 19, 11:47:20:PM
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who said they were the best witness
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All the pundits and network analysts.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Dan on 11 13, 19, 11:49:33:PM
Did you hear what Biden had to say about the hearing?  It was priceless.

He said he didn't watch but heard it was devastating.  When asked what was devastating about it, his response was, "Well you saw it."


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: chuck_curtis on 11 13, 19, 11:50:53:PM
Anyone who thinks you can impeach the president based on what those two said, is out of his mind.  They have nothing of significance.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: wvit1001 on 11 13, 19, 11:59:50:PM
It's funny watching you old tea partiers trying to make a silk purse out of the republican cow's ear performance that was put forth at the hearing today.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: wvit1001 on 11 14, 19, 12:01:49:AM
You wouldn't say that was unreasonable, would you?"

"Yes"

"Oh, uh... but you wouldn't say it was outlandish would you?"


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: wvit1001 on 11 14, 19, 12:04:22:AM
“If you’re weak on the facts and strong on the law, pound the law. If you’re weak on the law and strong on the facts, pound the facts. If you’re weak on both, pound the table.” -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

republicans were today and will over the few weeks be doing a lot of table pounding.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 14, 19, 12:24:38:AM
The Dems were very outlandish today, their spurious impeachment partisan farce case is loosing its wheels

as I predicted (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 14, 19, 12:46:29:AM
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Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: chuck_curtis on 11 14, 19, 12:49:54:AM
The fact is, the president of Ukraine said several times he wasn't under and pressure to do anything.  That's a fact.   In fact, he didn't do what Trump wanted, anyhow, and he got a heap of military aid to boot.   That's a fact.  The fact is, Ukraine is notoriously corrupt and that is a great concern.  The fact is, there are no facts to the contrary.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: wvit1001 on 11 14, 19, 01:12:58:AM
But Zelenskyy’s response is utterly logical – and acceptable — at home. Ukrainians are humble people. They know that they are receiving foreign assistance (https://www.apnews.com/34f5ba11417e4c10b510643e40d2a264) and that they had better be grateful for it. I did not hear any Ukrainian in Kyiv criticizing their president for being subservient to Trump. Why should he do anything else if he wants U.S. support, they would argue? Being in a war with Russia since 2014, Ukraine needs all the support it can get. Therefore, it must not criticize a major donor.
This does not mean that Ukrainians thought Zelenskyy told the truth, but sometimes a president has to do what a president has to do. Needless to say, it means nothing that Zelenskyy claimed publicly that there was no quid pro quo on the part of Trump. It only means that it would be unwise for the Ukrainian president to criticize the U.S. president.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: chuck_curtis on 11 14, 19, 01:17:46:AM
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This does not mean that Ukrainians thought Zelenskyy told the truth, but sometimes a president has to do what a president has to do.

The fact is, that doesn't mean that he lied.  That's a fact,.  You can suppose all day long why we might have lied, but that doesn't mean that he lied.  That is a fact.  The fact is, you have no facts that prove that he lied.  I don't think the people of Ukraine think their president is a liar, or that he wants his people to think he is a liar, even though youse slime balls do.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Truman62 on 11 14, 19, 01:26:49:AM
We all KNOW that President tRump is a Liar.

Lies all day, EVERY day. 24/7.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: chuck_curtis on 11 14, 19, 01:32:01:AM
He sure as hell was right about your Trump-Putin collusion hoax.  Youse slime balls lied to us for years.  That is a fact.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: takncarabizniz on 11 14, 19, 04:24:55:AM
Yawn...


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Truman62 on 11 14, 19, 09:25:26:AM
LOL - Chuckie is clinging to his widdle fact, how very, vewy cute.

The other fact is that IF the Russian lawyer had offered some good dirt on Hillary,
Team tRump would have bought into it AND colluded!  Yeah, FACT!

They were right on the edge of breaking the law, and had no clue...

THIS is what happens when you put people with no morals and no
idea what they are doing in political office.

Why you worship this immoral, adulterous, lying con-man is beyond my comprehension.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: JigSaw-II on 11 14, 19, 10:40:17:AM
The brain dead trump sympathizers just haven't a clue.  They only listen to Fox Fake News and believe it.  But that's OK, let them believe whatever they want.  the truth will win out in the end...


If trump is so clean and there was no Quid-Pro-Quo, why won't trump let Executive Brand witness testify at the hearings. They could tell the world just how innocent trump is, right??   


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: wvit1001 on 11 14, 19, 10:42:46:AM
they have a clue, they just ignore it.    They're willing to sink our country in their efforts to troll the libs.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: chuck_curtis on 11 14, 19, 11:40:13:AM
Youse slime balls don't have any facts.  All you have are allegations you contrived yourselves only because you are outraged by the president doing what he said he would do.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 11 14, 19, 11:42:36:AM
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Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: wvit1001 on 11 14, 19, 11:49:59:AM
well yeah chuck, there are facts.    Sondland is a fact and he's set to testify next week.    He has firsthand knowledge of what's gone on with Ukraine.   


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Dan on 11 14, 19, 11:53:13:AM
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It's funny watching you tea partiers
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LOL!  And yet it is you old TDS libs who have to convince US of your accusations.  You don't sound very convincing.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Dan on 11 14, 19, 11:58:20:AM
The brain dead TDS anti trump psychos just haven't a clue.  They only listen to CNN Fake News and believe it.  But that's OK, let them believe whatever they want.  the truth will win out in the end...

If trump is so dirty and there was a Quid-Pro-Quo, why don't the libs want Executive Brand witness testify at the hearings. They could tell the world just how guilty trump is, right??


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Dan on 11 14, 19, 12:00:29:PM
The TDS libs have no clue.   They're willing to sink our country in their efforts to destroy the president.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Dan on 11 14, 19, 12:02:37:PM
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Sondland is a fact and he's set to testify next week.    He has firsthand knowledge of what's gone on with Ukraine.
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Yep, and he said Trump told him, "no quid pro quo."


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 14, 19, 12:03:47:PM
JW here must have a ring in her nose

She is so easily led by it (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: wvit1001 on 11 14, 19, 12:06:36:PM
is that what he said dan?   You know trump is a known liar.    That's not what Sondland testified happened.   Sondland said there was.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Dan on 11 14, 19, 12:16:02:PM
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is that what he said dan?
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According to Sondland, yep.  Are you calling Sondland a liar?


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So you think Trump lied to Sondland?  That doesn't make any sense.


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That's not what Sondland testified happened.
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Yes it is.


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Sondland said there was.
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His opinion is irrelevant.  What matters is what Trump did.  And Trump told him not to do a quid pro quo.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: JigSaw-II on 11 14, 19, 01:30:08:PM
(( All you have are allegations you contrived yourselves ))

And yet, the Republicans have NO defense for those allegations, Al they can do is attack the process.   not one republican could/would defend trump.  All they did was repeat what the witnesses said then ask them if that is what they said. 

The best statement made in answer to a Republican insisting the person starting this whole thing be made to testify at the impeachment hearings:>>

Peter Welch: (00:00 (https://www.rev.com/transcript-editor/shared/jsCoN-8xDftmiVKU5K-bE-HThkk9XZUgh5-J06i4YAokVsPTo3BvhykOqH0bi-uB1J0ZdnTPdokN7Gis32YOY_Te7DM?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=0.61))
Thank you. I say to my colleague, I’d be glad to have the person who started it all, come in and testify. President Trump is welcome to take a seat right there.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 14, 19, 01:36:17:PM
Unlike the Dims Jiggyboob, Trump doesn’t have time for nonsense

he’s to busy MAGA while the left tries another hoax to sway public opinion knowing

full well that none of the bozos they have running against Trump can have a hope to beat him at the polls

Why is that you may well inquire?

“It’s the economy stupid “  (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)

Thanks again Trump!


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: wvit1001 on 11 14, 19, 01:46:38:PM
It's the economy stupid -   

GO OBAMA !!!!!!!!



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Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: omiaqt on 11 14, 19, 07:10:46:PM
Who's next for the dems circus?


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 14, 19, 08:03:24:PM
It’s the economy stupid, nutwit (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)


Barry Soetoros aka BHO Economy was anemic and unemployment was double digits

Thank Trump who turned that around (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)(https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)(https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: omiaqt on 11 14, 19, 08:07:45:PM
Who is this Obama person? :)


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 14, 19, 08:16:11:PM
Here is the why of nutwits ignorant post ...,




In those secret hearings, Schiff time and again shut down Republican members’ questions (https://nypost.com/2019/11/12/gop-talking-points-memo-trumps-actions-dont-warrant-impeachment/) — particularly anything that might lead to positive identification of the “whistleblower” who got this entire ball rolling (after meeting with Schiff’s staff).

Indeed, Democrats now refuse to have the whistleblower testify (https://nypost.com/2019/11/10/lindsey-graham-says-impeachment-invalid-without-whistleblower-testimony/), even in secret — though Schiff at first publicly called for just that. Every sign is that he changed his mind because cross-examination is likely to reveal him to be a highly partisan Trump-hater, and might even suggest he colluded with Democrats across Washington to launch this fast-track impeachment.


The rules also limit Republicans to calling only witnesses OK’d by Schiff or the committee majority, after they provide extensive written justification. Unlike past House presidential impeachment proceedings, they give Trump’s lawyers no chance to present arguments or evidence of their own.




Nutwit can barely post anything that’s not partisan biased BS here apparently ! (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Dan on 11 15, 19, 12:20:27:AM
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And yet, the Republicans have NO defense for those allegations
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Don’t need one as there is no evidence against him.


Obviously there is a huge disconnect.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 11 15, 19, 12:36:33:AM
I have no interest in watching the Witch Hunt orchestrated by Adamn CHITff on behalf of the Libs/Dems/Homos/Lrftists/Commies
    who have never gotten over LOSING the 2016 Election.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Jw2 on 11 19, 19, 09:18:47:AM
figures that WWV10MHZ would avoid exposing himself to the facts presented under oath.

that just leaves WWV10MHZ to expose himself in his usual manner.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 19, 19, 02:01:36:PM
Poor JW still calling hearsay facts

She loves repeating lies here apparently


A special kind of stupid does that (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: Dan on 11 19, 19, 02:04:19:PM
What facts, fuhrer johniel?  They are just giving heir opinions.  The only fact that matters is the Memcon.


Title: Re: Republicans Barely Questioned the Witnesses.
Post by: D2D on 11 19, 19, 03:07:20:PM
Rumor and innuendo are not facts!