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Title: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jw2 on 10 21, 19, 06:20:36:PM
Have you gotten your annual flu shot, yet?


Will you get a flu shot this year?


If not, why not?


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: warrenpees on 10 21, 19, 06:28:06:PM
Yes.  Free at the VA.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: chuck_curtis on 10 21, 19, 06:29:29:PM
No.  I rarely get the flu and when I have it's not a big deal.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Local5th on 10 21, 19, 06:33:14:PM
No, no, because the first and last time I took a flue shot I was sick all winter with flue like symptoms.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: takncarabizniz on 10 21, 19, 06:33:33:PM
Done.

We've had one every year for 30 years...that's when our preemie newborn came into our lives and the doctor said to help protect him, it would be best if we all had flu shots every year.  So we have.  We used to have a "family outing" every year to the local health district to get them, because without insurance, we could get them free or for about $5 for a family of 4.  Then after we got insurance, we would go to the clinic, now, the hubby and I get them at work, at the annual flu clinics. 

We still encourage our kids to get them too.  Most places offer for free or very reduced prices. 

There are still plenty of people who don't get them and our factory is like a walking petri-dish anyway, so I keep the Lysol and Purell wipes handy and keep my can of Lysol spray at my desk.  I spray the whole area weekly...


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: lakitss on 10 21, 19, 06:41:03:PM
I stopped after I retired from the military in '05 and haven't been sick since. i don't trust them. No idea WTF is in themand I'll bet they don't either.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 10 21, 19, 06:47:06:PM
Got it already this year.

Do it every year.

Will always do it.

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Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Dan on 10 21, 19, 08:09:44:PM
No.  I never have.  Too many strains to account for them all.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jim on 10 21, 19, 09:27:32:PM
 
Nope.  I haven't had a Flu Shot since the early '90's and haven't been sick since then either. No cold - no flu for over 20 years.  Thats what happens when you allow your immune system to work like its supposed to.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: zsq987 on 10 21, 19, 09:34:37:PM
Well, my Immune System was shot down pretty much a few years back while undergoing Chemo for Liver Cancer.

It's slowly coming back, but it's not as robust as it would have been if not for the Chemo.

My various Doctors insist that I get it along with Hepatitis, Zoster and Pneumonia Shots.

A healthy Immune System is a Blessing for those that have one!!


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jw2 on 10 22, 19, 04:21:30:AM
Thank you for your comments.

I guess I forgot to mention myself.

I used to believe getting sick for a few days was a good way to force myself to take some time off and lose some weight.  Then one year, got the flu from hell.  Lasted 10-14 days.

The shots are free from work at the home office or through health care insurance at almost any Walgreens, CVS walk-in clinic or at the doctor's office.

Medical science recommends that people my age get the shot.  I understand, for now, it doesn't cover all the possible strains, and sometimes they get it wrong.  Much better odds getting the shot, than not.  They're getting better over time.

Many in my second family have breathing problems.  A large percentage of them die from pneumonia and other effects of the flu.  CDC estimates that up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died.

I think tcb suggested fellow workers don't get the shot, get sick and then show up at work.  If you skip the shot and get sick, please refrain from spreading it.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: davik62 on 10 22, 19, 04:41:36:AM
I get them every year, but get the flu once every 5 years.

Wife never gets them, but rarely gets the flu.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jim on 10 22, 19, 07:01:19:AM
 
One word of advice:  If you believe you will get sick - You will.  If you believe you will get the sickness from Hell that will take forever to go away - You WILL.
 
Stop getting yourself sick.  People who talk themselves into getting sick by believing they will get sick yet they also tell themselves they can't afford to stay sick (for whatever reason) are sick the least length of time.  Many times for just one day.   Its up to you to get sick - and for how long.
 
If you feel a sickness coming on then take a low dose of Zinc. Zinc kicks your immune system into gear.   Do this right away and you won't get sick.
 
However, the Zinc may make your stomach feel queasy if you're not used to taking Zinc.  But it goes away.
 
 


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: sunshine on 10 22, 19, 10:45:39:AM
I get mine ( for 5 years now) even though the only time I got the flu was in 1991 when working with small children.  I rarely get sick with anything.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 22, 19, 01:00:46:PM
I would get one if I could. I think it's irresponsible not to. Having had Guillain Barre, I've been advised to not get any live virus vaccine.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: zsq987 on 10 22, 19, 05:23:04:PM
I knew a guy who got G-B and I hadn't seen him in over a year.

OMG!!!  He was like a skeleton!!!  He walked like every joint in his body ached!! Never saw him again after that.

I hope you recovered OK and completely.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jw2 on 10 22, 19, 05:42:40:PM
LA County reports first flu death of the season

https://abc7.com/health/la-county-reports-first-flu-death-of-the-season/5635994/

 Los Angeles County health officials confirmed Monday the county's first flu-related death of the 2019-20 flu season.

The patient was a middle-aged person with underlying health conditions, according to the county Department of Public Health. During the 2018-19 flu season, there were 125 flu-related deaths in the County.

"This is a sad reminder that the flu can be a serious illness, especially for the elderly, young children and people with weakened immune systems," said Muntu Davis, MD, MPH, Los Angeles County Health Officer. "I would like to remind everyone that even if you're healthy, you can still get seriously sick from the flu and spread the illness to others. Immunization is the best method to protect yourself and reduce the likelihood of spreading the flu to others in your community."

County health officials and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommend flu immunization for everyone older than 6 months.

Symptoms of the flu include fever, cough, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose, muscle or body aches, headaches and fatigue, according to health officials. Pneumonia is the most common complication of the flu.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 22, 19, 06:44:34:PM
I knew a guy who got G-B and I hadn't seen him in over a year.

OMG!!!  He was like a skeleton!!!  He walked like every joint in his body ached!! Never saw him again after that.

I hope you recovered OK and completely.

I contracted it about nine years ago. I am at about 50% of my previous strength. Im told I won't get better than that. To top it off, I broke a hip moving a log about 9 weeks ago. I'm off the cane for the most part, but still pretty sore by the end of the day.

I'm a tough old bastard though. I have been out deer hunting, and taking care of my wife who had a severe stroke a year and a half ago, all the while maintaining a full time job.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: emilyB on 10 22, 19, 09:13:10:PM
I got mine last week.  I do it mainly so I won't feel guilty if I get the flu, infect someone else and didn't do everything I could to avoid it.  I do it especially for my husband who has been fighting the big C on and off since 2004.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 23, 19, 08:08:35:AM
I am sorry to hear about your husband's health issues Emily. I wish him and you all the best.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jw2 on 10 23, 19, 02:22:39:PM
Welcome to flu season. Here’s your best shot at staying healthy  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/smileys/Thinking/4.gif)

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/welcome-to-flu-season-heres-your-best-shot-at-staying-healthy

Get your flu vaccine

The best way to dodge a full-blown case of influenza is to roll up a sleeve and get vaccinated, said William Schaffner, a professor who specializes in infectious disease, preventative medicine and immunization policy at Vanderbilt University’s School of Medicine.

The influenza vaccine, which combines four different inactive flu strains, “provides complete protection to some people and partial protection to others,” he said. There are a few reasons why you may get sick with flu-like symptoms even after being stabbed in the arm. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, you may still contract the common cold, or you may have been exposed to the flu before getting vaccinated or during the two weeks afterward when your body is still building up immunity.

Anyone 6 months or older can get the flu shot (some kids up until age 8 need two doses, according to federal guidelines), and the vaccine should be administered in October, to get maximum protection as the season begins. That said, it is never too late in the season to get the flu vaccine. If you are needle-averse, you can ask your health care provider about receiving the vaccine through a nasal spray.

If you get the shot, you may develop a low fever or tenderness at the injection site, but that’s generally better than the alternative, Schaffner said. People who are diabetic, have a compromised immune system, are older or are pregnant — “people with underlying health conditions of any kind,” according to Schaffner — should get vaccinated.


Wash your hands. A lot.

If you’re more of a tailgate person, then you’ll understand that the best offense against the flu is a strong defense.. Scrub those hands with soap and warm water long enough to sing the “Happy Birthday” song twice. A quick rinse does not suffice.

Avoid people who are coughing and sneezing

While tricky to practice in real life, try to be more situationally aware of people showing signs of sickness, Schaffer said. During flu season, there’s no shame in giving a friendly wave instead of a high-five. It may help reduce the chances that you (or your little party animal) end up feverish, achy and ill. If exposure is unavoidable, be a stickler about good hygiene.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: emilyB on 10 23, 19, 03:12:52:PM
Thank you wmd, it's been a long road of hopes and disappointments. 
JW good advice but hard to avoid when you're in line at the market and the checker is coughing up a storm. 
Maybe we should carry masks when we have to go out in the flu season.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 23, 19, 04:05:27:PM
When I travel overseas, particularly in Asia it is common to see people wearing masks in public.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 10 23, 19, 09:55:57:PM
Yes! Both of us have had the flu and pneumonia shots.

We good!

*Ldy R.* (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: warrenpees on 10 23, 19, 11:15:26:PM
Does wavy have to get multiple shots for all the alt-wavys?


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: sine-qua-non on 10 24, 19, 12:22:52:AM
Keeping ones Vitamin D level optimal is the best defense for not getting the flu

and staying away from sick people (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/wink.gif)


The flu shot never guesses the right strain so it’s essentially useless as they even admit !!! 

Only 3% effective.

 Btw,  PBS is not a health site, it’s a leftist propaganda site JW, you gullible tool !

Vitamin D protects against colds and flu, finds major global study
https://www.sciencedaily.com › releases › 2017/02
Feb 16, 2017 - Vitamin D supplements protect against acute respiratory infections including colds and flu, according to a study. The study provides the most ...


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: zsq987 on 10 24, 19, 12:29:57:AM
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Yes! Both of us have had the flu and pneumonia shots.

Billie and Millie, how sweet.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jw2 on 10 24, 19, 01:09:42:PM
I thought it was clear by the thread subject line...that this subject was non-political.  poor sine can't help herself.



Doctors in Illinois are warning that this could be a severe flu season, after keeping a close eye on Australia and the Southern Hemisphere (https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/ct-life-flu-season-starts-tt-20191023-lflhvg5skjf2vaoow3yrgct2s4-story.html#nt=oft-Double%20Chain~Recommender~top-news-curated-chain~more-top-news-rec~~4~no-art~automated~curatedpage)



With severe flu season potentially on horizon, doctors are urging patients to get flu shots now

https://www.foxnews.com/health/severe-flue-season-doctors-urge-patients-to-get-their-flu-shots-now

Contrary to popular belief, you should not wait until November or December to get your flu shot. The time is now, experts say.

“With the flu season starting earlier in Australia, and us already seeing cases of confirmed flu even in September, it's worth getting your flu shot now and ideally before Halloween,” Dr. Ali Raja, the Executive Vice Chairman of the Department of Emergency Medicine at Massachusetts General Hospital, told Fox News.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: sine-qua-non on 10 24, 19, 07:21:52:PM
Where did I mention politics you poor illiterate child JW
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You got your info from a political site .... so you shoulda stuck with your subject title for this thread.

Let’s look at the stats ; .....

When you do not receive the flu vaccination, you have a 7.0% chance of catching the flu on average. However, when you get the shot, your risk is 1.9%. Consequently, the average reduction is 5.1%.

I don’t know about you, but the 5.1% reduction doesn’t sound nearly as remarkable as 67% effectiveness! Both statistics are calculated from the same data but provide different types of information.

This proves the old adage that “figures don’t lie, but liars figure”

The liars here are those with the financial interest, the vaccine “67% effectiveness” manufacturers !

So, what about the no side effects all natural Vitamin D effectiveness (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/huh.gif)

Mounting research suggests vitamin D deficiency may actually be a major cause of influenza. People with the lowest vitamin D levels report having significantly more colds or cases of the flu

Scientific review confirms vitamin D optimization boosts immunity and cuts rates of cold and flu. Among people vitamin D blood levels below 10 ng/mL, taking a supplement cut risk of respiratory infection by 50 percent

  • To prevent influenza in one person, 40 people must receive the flu vaccine whereas one case of the flu can be prevented for every 33 people taking vitamin D. If you’re severely vitamin D deficient, vitamin D supplementation is 10 times more effective than the flu vaccine
10 times more effective than the flu vaccine !!! (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/shocked.gif)
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When one is informed with all the facts and not just listening to Big Pharma propaganda or PBS or FNC,

The choice seems clear (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jw2 on 10 24, 19, 08:51:12:PM
right here sine:

Btw,  PBS is not a health site, it’s a leftist propaganda site JW, you gullible tool !


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: sine-qua-non on 10 24, 19, 08:59:45:PM
Yep,

As I said, you started off your own hypocracy by using a political web site for medical info.
and I merely called you out on your BS hypocracy as usual JW (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)

I only use science and medical sites when discussing those topics, unlike you who just can’t help being political (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 10 24, 19, 10:15:27:PM
Who, zsquasimodoqueer??

You still raving your nonsense over there, you moronic bastard?

Well, rave on that ALL may know you mad...

Maybe, some day, you will be brave enough to "come out of your closet."

LOLOLOLOL!

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jw2 on 10 28, 19, 10:06:17:PM
poor sine...PBS is a reputable news source.  I provided the same information from Fox News.  You veiw too much of the world from your warped political POV.  It does you now benefit to do so,

6 common myths about the flu, debunked

https://www.inverse.com/article/60421-everything-to-know-about-flu-season

The flu is just a bad cold


False: Both flu and colds are respiratory illnesses, but they are caused by different viruses. The flu is generally worse than a cold. The flu presents with a sudden onset (within a few hours) of some or all of the following: fever, upper respiratory symptoms (such as runny and congested nose), cough, tiredness, muscle pains, body aches, headaches, cold shivers, and hot sweats.

A cold presents with a runny nose or congestion and generally does not result in serious complications.

The flu can lead to serious complications, including pneumonia.

The influenza vaccine can give you the flu


False: The vaccine does not contain live virus so you cannot “catch” flu from the vaccine. At the time, when influenza vaccine is recommended (just before the flu season), there are many other types of respiratory viruses around that can cause similar signs and symptoms to the flu. There is a high chance of being infected with one of these viruses, and people often — incorrectly — attribute the illness to a flu shot they’ve just had.

The vaccine also takes two weeks to work, so you could catch the flu during this period, especially if you receive the influenza vaccine after flu season has started.


A vaccination is enough to prevent the flu


False: The vaccine is not 100% effective. In addition, effectiveness depends on the age and health of the person being vaccinated. The efficacy of the vaccine also varies from year to year depending on how the vaccine matches the circulating influenza strain.

Being exposed to cold weather will give me the flu

False: The only way to catch the flu is by being exposed to the flu virus.

People can get swine flu

False: The term swine flu is sometimes used to incorrectly refer to the influenza A(H1N1) strain, which emerged globally during the 2009 pandemic. When the strain emerged, scientists noted that it was similar to some strains of the flu which had been seen in pigs. That’s why some people started calling it “swine flu.”

Antiviral medication should always be prescribed for the flu

False: Treatment for the flu is largely directed at reducing the signs and symptoms of the flu, like a runny nose, body pains, and tiredness. Bed rest, plenty of fluids ,and symptom relief of cough, congestion, and fever are advised.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: sine-qua-non on 10 29, 19, 03:02:01:AM
Poor whacky JW,

poor sine...PBS is a reputable news source


But it’s not a science site, it’s a political news site that leans leftwing, big difference that you fail to see JW,
but continue to get your skewed facts and opinions from them (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)

Take off your political rose colored glasses for a change and you might make more sense !


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 10 29, 19, 07:29:02:PM
LRW

Millie is sillie.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jw2 on 10 29, 19, 08:43:42:PM
It's a news / information web site that reports on events in US and and around the world, in addition to science news, health care news and even sports.

that don't have to be a sports team, to report on sports teams.

you do yourself self-inflicted harm in looking at the world as you do.

the flu ignores politics and attacks conservative Republicans as much as any one else.  you have a problem fixating on the wrong threats.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: sine-qua-non on 10 29, 19, 11:13:20:PM
Getting medical info from medical or science sites is why info is more reliable

unlike your left leaning biased reporting what someone said sites

You don’t do yourself any favors by quoting biased sites, better to go to the source (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 10 29, 19, 11:43:17:PM
Who, waavyknothead??

You seem to be the *twin parrot* of that OTHER FOOL...

How boorish...

Keep raving that ALL will know you mad, waavy...

dismissed..,

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jw2 on 10 31, 19, 11:59:47:AM
News sites interview medical experts, who then relate information to the general public.  sine apparently wishes to stay ignorant.

Why the US could experience its deadliest flu season in 2019 (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/shocked.gif)

https://www.aol.com/article/lifestyle/2019/10/30/why-the-us-could-experience-its-deadliest-flu-season-in-2019/23834458/

Flu season is officially here, and that means you should be prepared for the sneezing, sore throat, exhaustion and aches and pains that come with it, especially this year.

The New York Times reported on Oct. 4 that looking at Australia, which doctors often do to predict the severity of the U.S. flew season, this year could be one of the worst yet. In 2017, Australia experienced its most severe flu season, and six months later, when winter rolled around in North America, so did the U.S., with approximately 79,000 dead. This year, Australia was hit even harder.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: takncarabizniz on 10 31, 19, 04:16:20:PM
It is true that some people never feel the need for the shot and never suffer, but it's also true that you can harbor the flu virus and make others sick.  The virus can be contagious as many as 5 days AFTER any symptoms appear, so for those who may just get what they think is a slight headache and/or sniffles, yep, they probably actually have the virus and can infect others.

I was terribly sick about 2 or 3 years ago, despite the shot...I got influenza B, in late Spring...but worse than that, I got pneumonia...and because I already have a compromised immune system, I was sicker than a dog and to this day, I still don't feel like I've fully recovered.  I get winded much easier, have frequent shortness of breath with any exertion, and despite any multitude of tests and x-rays, the doc hasn't found anything...and can only attribute it to that bout of pneumonia. 


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 12, 19, 05:39:41:PM
Vaccine sales down no problem, legislate mandates, since vaccines have no liability – the perfect business model. Citizen voices are squashed. A business which profits off making and keeping us all sick! She also shares what she learned about how to find REAL HEALTH in a toxic world!

Original video https://youtube.com/v/l3GfYhzaixM

https://youtube.com/v/l3GfYhzaixM


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jw2 on 11 12, 19, 06:15:39:PM
LearnTheRisk.org is an anti-vaccination clut.




The anti-vaccine movement has resulted in the reintroduction of virtually eradicated childhood diseases like the measles.




I tried to keep this post (non-political), but you can't help yourself.









Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: wvit1001 on 11 12, 19, 06:19:06:PM
in sine's reality the dangers of children getting the flu is acceptable while the supposed dangers of getting a flu inoculation is unacceptable.   


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 12, 19, 11:36:47:PM
Reality escapes nutwit yet again (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jw2 on 11 12, 19, 11:48:27:PM
after all, it's a non-political matter of life and death of fellow citizens.


NY Teen Becomes Advocate For Flu Shots After Nearly Dying From Illness

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/11/11/new-york-teen-near-death-flu-shot/

Flu season is just starting, which is when we tell viewers to get their flu shot.

It’s also when we tell people how many patients end up in the hospital or die of flu complications.


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 13, 19, 04:38:52:AM

A business which profits off making and keeping us all sick!

Flu Shot Reaction Cases Compensated More on Average by ...
https://www.shannonlawgroup.com › flu-shot-reaction-cases-compensated-... (https://www.shannonlawgroup.com/flu-shot-reaction-cases-compensated-more-on-average-by-vicp/)

Dec 19, 2017 - 82.8% of Recent Vaccine Injury Cases Are from Flu Shots ... As a result, hundreds of victims suffer each year from injuries caused by their annual flu ... or someone you love has been seriously injured from a flu vaccination,


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: Jw2 on 11 13, 19, 06:47:19:PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/YArLXPq3nfQ


Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 13, 19, 08:05:42:PM

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    [/FONT][/COLOR]Feb 1, 2018 - Flu vaccines make pharma companies $3 billion a year and aren't very effective... viral strains chosen almost a year ago for the global vaccine recipe, ... and rubella vaccine is 97 percent effective; yellow fever vaccine is 99 percent effective ... spray at all, saying its rate of effectiveness had sunk to 3 percent.


    3% effective by their own admission say one is a fool to take an unproven for effectiveness and proven dangerous vaccine ! (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)

    But then there is JW who proves what wackos will take or promote lunacy !


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wvit1001 on 11 13, 19, 08:06:54:PM
    conspiracy nut zippy is a nut.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 13, 19, 08:40:49:PM
    Hi nutwit zippy (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 11 13, 19, 09:57:27:PM
    sine must have spent a lot of time to find a two year old post from that ambulance chasing law firm.

    here's the most recent statistics on Vaccine Injuries
    https://vaccinelaw.com/lawyer/2018/02/12/Vaccine-Injury/Latest-Statistics-on-Vaccine-Injury-Compensation-Claims_bl33236.htm (https://vaccinelaw.com/lawyer/2018/02/12/Vaccine-Injury/Latest-Statistics-on-Vaccine-Injury-Compensation-Claims_bl33236.htm)


    admitting that nothing is absolutely safe - including soft plastic butter knives - a reasonable person will look at the 79,000 deaths from the flu, as opposed to the 339 fatalities from the vaccination of over 160 Million people means the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine far outweighs any risk.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/2018-2019.html (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/2018-2019.html)

    maybe sine can work her GED math skills to tell us the the % is of 339 fatalities/160,000,000 vaccinations.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 14, 19, 10:20:59:PM
    JW must think that 3% effectiveness, the manufacturers own admission numbers,

    is something everyone needs (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)

    Maybe she can tell us why she would believe it’s worth taking then (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/cheesy.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 11 20, 19, 01:00:00:PM
    Bonkers pricing of “free” flu shots shows what’s wrong with US healthcare

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/11/bonkers-pricing-of-free-flu-shots-shows-whats-wrong-with-us-healthcare/

    In broken US health system, a flu shot can cost triple what it should.

    Health insurance companies pay wildly different amounts for the same vaccines depending on how negotiations go with individual medical providers across the country. In some cases, providers have forced insurers to pay upward of three times the price they would pay to other providers, according to an investigation by Kaiser Health News.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: August West on 11 20, 19, 01:05:22:PM
    When my father was in a nursing home at the age of 93 it was obvious to all that his time on earth was coming to an end within a month or two. One day when I went to visit him he wasn`t in his room. I was told that they wheeled him downstairs for "occupational therapy". The therapists told me that with a little effort he may be able to use his legs again. He hadn`t actually walked in 2 years. I wonder how much his Medicare was hit for that? It was blatantly stupid and a scam. Indeed we pay a lot for bullshit like this.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 11 20, 19, 02:38:19:PM
    I see signs all over that say “Free Flu Shots “ (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/shocked.gif)

    and you know what things on earth that are free are worth ? (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/laugh.gif)


    Where to Get Free Flu Shot in 2019, With and Without ... - Allure

    https://www.allure.com › story › free-flu-shot-without-insurance (https://www.allure.com/story/free-flu-shot-without-insurance)

    Oct 17, 2019 - Here are all the places where you can get the flu vaccine for free, ... Even though a vaccine isn't completely fool-proof,

    Isn’t fool proof ....
    You too can be fool enough to trust in sorcery & voodoo (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)



    Walgreens to Provide Up To $15 Million Worth of Free Flu (https://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/omh/Content.aspx?ID=10274&lvl=2&lvlid=8)
     (https://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/omh/Content.aspx?ID=10274&lvl=2&lvlid=8)



    Sep 25, 2015 - 25, 2015 – Walgreens is providing up to $15 million worth of free flu shotvouchers this flu season through its collaboration with the U.S. .


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 11 20, 19, 04:08:24:PM
    Doctors are pressuring U.S.Customs and Border Protection to let them give flu shots to detained migrant children (https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flatimes.us10.list-manage.com%2Ftrack%2Fclick%3Fu%3Df089ecc9238c5ee13b8e5f471%26id%3Daa11140112%26e%3D21d433386f&data=02%7C01%7Cjowalsh%40chicagotribune.com%7C235ac523e128443ec35108d76dba092a%7Cf7da0482aed242fa80233b240fb6598d%7C0%7C0%7C637098518111867841&sdata=kAQWK7r2GBS5QVZEk9%2F8qVwFqG270mJRCol3IyVRCZ4%3D&reserved=0) after several died of the virus in custody over the last year.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 12 10, 19, 07:14:24:PM
    Flu ‘widespread’ in Alabama, according to CDC

    https://www.wsfa.com/2019/12/10/flu-widespread-alabama-according-cdc/

    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the flu is widespread in 16 states, including Alabama.

    On top of getting your flu show, there are some other things you can do to prevent yourself from getting sick, like:

    Washing your hands

    Covering your nose and mouth when you sneeze and cough

    Disinfecting surfaces around your house

    Staying home if you feel sick


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: zsq987 on 12 10, 19, 07:19:47:PM
    Jizz-Wanker2.....  You should be more concerned about your own need for Hepatitis and Herpes and Syphilis and Gonorrhea Shots.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: WWV10MHZ on 12 11, 19, 09:16:03:PM
    (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 12 11, 19, 10:07:00:PM
    I'm sorry you must feel compelled to comment like that.

    I'll pray for you.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 12 12, 19, 11:54:37:PM
    It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year to Get a Flu Shot  (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)

    https://gizmodo.com/its-the-most-wonderful-time-of-the-year-to-get-a-flu-sh-1840391261

    With just a few weeks left until the end of the decade, there’s still time to get the best gift possible for your health and the health of everyone around you: a flu vaccine.

    According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, our annual bout of phelgmy misery is well underway. As of the week of November 30, flu activity is high in 13 states, up from eight the previous week. And overall, more people across the country are going to the doctor for flu-like illnesses. People, including children, have already been hospitalized with the flu, with at least six suspected pediatric deaths reported to the CDC.

    At the same time, we haven’t yet hit peak flu. According to current projections by the CDC, there’s about a 50 percent chance that the flu will reach its worst by late December, a 30 percent chance it’ll happen in January, and a 20 percent chance it’ll hit by February. That means, if you act now, you still have time to get the shot and have it reach full effectiveness before the flu season reaches its max intensity (typically it takes two weeks for our bodies to produce enough vaccine-prompted flu antibodies).


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: davik62 on 12 13, 19, 01:52:20:AM
    And yet we are finding out that this year's flu shot missed the flu that is going around.  :(

    Fortunately it is one of the weaker strains, but still...

    Ever since tRump took over, the CDC has been MUCH less effective.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 12 16, 19, 04:44:50:AM
    You’d get better odds in Vegas than you would taking the flu shot and no potential for serious side effects (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/shocked.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: davik62 on 12 16, 19, 05:06:30:AM
    Sinus shows us just what "stupid" looks like!

    LOL Thanks for a glimpse, Sinus!


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 12 16, 19, 05:26:35:AM
    Yes, I showed everyone ‘ you ‘ duuuuuuuhhhhmbvik, (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 12 23, 19, 12:11:58:AM
    Flu hits Alabama, other southern states hard

    https://www.al.com/news/2019/12/flu-hits-alabama-other-southern-states-hard.html

    The flu season is continuing to hit southern states hard as influenza begins to spread across the country.

    The flu season got off to an early start in the Deep South. The most recent weekly flu report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention finds high levels of flu-like illness in 19 states, including most southern states.

    Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Nebraska, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and Washington are the states reporting high levels of flu.

    The CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 3.7 million flu illnesses, 32,000 hospitalizations and 1,800 deaths from flu. So far in the 2019-2020 flu season, CDC has reported 19 flu-associated deaths among children.

    Illness are mostly being caused by influenza B/Victoria viruses, which is unusual for this time of year because Type B does not usually become prevalent until later in the flu season.

    CDC officials say it’s not too late to get vaccinated. They say the flu vaccine is the best way to prevent flu and its complications.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 12 23, 19, 04:05:11:AM
    CDC Director Resigns Showing Conflict of Interest and Big ...
    https://healthimpactnews.com › cdc-director-resigns-showing-conflict-of-in... (https://healthimpactnews.com/2018/cdc-director-resigns-showing-conflict-of-interest-and-big-pharma-influence-still-reigns-at-the-cdc/)



    Feb 1, 2018 - Yet, the CDC is also the largest purchaser of vaccines from the ... revealing a revolving door policy between the government and Big Pharma.




    Create the crisis


    Create the cure


    The Hegelian dialectic at wrk here.  Duping Americans is their game (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/evil.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 12 24, 19, 08:05:44:AM
    Flu, widespread in 30 states, blamed for nearly 2,000 deaths this season, CDC reports

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/12/21/flu-season-cdc-says-virus-widespread-30-states/2720159001/

    The flu is widespread in 30 states and has caused almost 2,000 deaths this season, including 19 children, according to the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention.

    Nearly every state has reported elevated activity, the CDC said in its weekly update Friday.

    The CDC estimated there have been at least 3.7 million flu cases this season, 32,000 requiring hospitalization. It reported 1,900 deaths.

    Most patients are infected with a strain called B/Victoria that usually doesn't appear until the end of flu season. The virus tends to strike children and young adults more often, but anyone can be affected, according to the CDC.

    The weekly report finds widespread flu in Puerto Rico and 30 states: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and Washington.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: davik62 on 12 24, 19, 08:35:17:AM
    GOPpers just LOVE to see more Americans get sick and die.

    Suffering makes GOPpers feel good.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: pacifica on 12 24, 19, 02:46:09:PM
    Whatever my parents did in the day was the best. We got our mandatory inoculation shots as infants.
    ....Three children born from '57 to '61.
    That one shot in elementary in early grades mid 60's (maybe measles?)
    The boys got the shot on the outside and girls on the inside their arm.
    ---Still to this day am impressed with such chivalry; our girls scar hidden under arm.


    As for the flu shot, have never had one. Don't plan on ever having one, nor pneumonia shot. God willing.

    (ps, two of my family members swear by the flu vaccine, but most, including me, not.
    Have heard though that once you get a flu shot you should keep getting it every year.)


    ---
    ps2
    Was at the pharmacy recently, picking up a prescription for my Dad and heard a guy tell the pharmacist that the only time he has ever gotten sick with the flu over 12 years was the two years he got the flu shot!!!--12 yrs ago and 6 yrs ago.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 12 24, 19, 05:23:00:PM
    Exactly Pacifica! 

    See post #66

    Just like cancer, they have the cure but there is no money in curing a disease

    only in keeping people sick and putting the on a lifetime of Big Pharma drugs

    when there are natural alternatives that are cheaper an just as effective!

    Seems the left want to profit off pestilence just as they want to profit off the poor with their climate Change religion (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/evil.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 12 28, 19, 02:50:38:PM
    Positive flu tests rise sharply in Nebraska

    https://www.1011now.com/content/news/Positive-flu-reports-rise-substantially-in-Nebraska-566518261.html

    The number of positive flu tests has risen substantially in the State of Nebraska, climbing 36.84 percent, according to the latest Department of Health and Human Services Influenza report.

    According to the flu report for the week of December 15 – December 21, the number of positive influenza tests in the state rose to 1,449, up from roughly 815 the week before.

    The state as a whole is listed under the "widespread" category.

    Bryan East Emergency Dept. assistant manager Dan Benson said, "In the last few days, we've been seeing lots of flu-like symptoms. Body aches, fevers, coughs; runny nose and congestion. Especially yesterday we probably saw 30 to 40 cases alone of just those symptoms."

    The number of positive Influenza A tests was recorded at 1,035, and the number of positive Influenza B tests was 414.

    Influenza-related deaths remained at “at least one”, with the average age listed at 85 years old.

    A confirmed flu death was reported out of Douglas County on Dec. 23.

    In addition, nine “influenza and other respiratory disease outbreaks” have been reported, and 20 schools have reported absences over 11 percent due to the flu.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: JigSaw-II on 12 28, 19, 03:44:15:PM
    I get a Flu Shot every year.  Have never had the Flu or  Pneumonia since I've been an adult.  My wife, on the other hand, had one flu shot and then got the flu, she has never had another flu shot and has never had the flu since...


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 01, 20, 05:03:20:PM
    VACCINE FAIL: “WHOOPING COUGH OUTBREAK CLOSES TEXAS SCHOOL DESPITE 100-PERCENT VACCINATION RATE: OFFICIALS” (https://www.infowars.com/vaccine-fail-whooping-cough-outbreak-closes-texas-school-despite-100-percent-vaccination-rate-officials/)

    And .....

    A few months back, the government of Samoa went into full martial law mode in order to implement mandatory vaccination of its population, going as far as closing off streets, prohibiting vehicles from driving and sending police to conduct door-to-door vaccinations.

    After two Samoan children died in June 2018 following MMR injections, the people of Samoa grew distrustful of vaccines, leading globalist front groups to entice the island nation with a $34 million grant encouraging them to carry out the vast vaccination project, as police and media shut down dissenting voices promoting alternative treatments like vitamin A supplements.

    In 1986, Tribe elite Henry Waxman (D-Calif) lead the Bolshevik charge to abolish the "trier of fact" (trial courts) for any and all alleged vaccine-related morbidity and mortality..  In its place, a tribunal was placed in absolute power to decide compensation in exchange for any facts .... along with a "gag order".  That is the most outrageous event since the Civil War 1.0.  No "trier of fact" = NO FACTS.  That leaves one and only entity to control the narrative:  authority. 

    Fast-forward to 911.  The "Patriot Act" which, btw, has no objective resolution nor endpoint.  It goes on...and on ..and on into perpetuity.  The "presumption of innocence" is replaced by the "presumption of guilt".  We are all "terrorists" until proven otherwise ..something impossible to do, as most of us know.  Fast-forward again .. to 2015 and California's SB 277.  Now, the paradigm shift moves to "public health" and we are now all "diseased" until proven "healthy".  The new, Postmodern definition of "healthy"?  Vaccinated.  Such that a person is no longer deemed to be born healthy unless and until they have a known disease introduced into their person, with or without their consent.  That is "Deconstructionism" which is part of Postmodernism. 50 years of Postmodernist education predisposes the brainwashed to accept this pathology.

    We had to destroy the village.... in order to save the village.  One step forward, two back ... but calling it progress.  And ... life = death; freedom = slavery; right = wrong; wealth = poverty and so on. 


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 01, 20, 05:44:03:PM
    In response to this incident, Children’s Health Defense (CHD) posted an article titled, “Pertussis: Vaccine Failure, Not Failure to Vaccinate (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/pertussis-vaccine-failure-not-failure-to-vaccinate/),” explaining how despite propaganda to the contrary, it is clearly not conscientious objectors to vaccination driving outbreaks like these (i.e. so-called “anti-vaxxers (https://www.greenmedinfo.health/blog/vaccine-extremism-hate-speech-and-well-beaten-path-towards-genocide-1)”), but a failing pertussis vaccine.

    In fact, according to CHD’s article the vaccine itself may be driving increased risk for whooping cough:

    “Studies show that by five years after completion of the DTaP series, children were up to 15 times more likely to acquire pertussis compared to the first year after the series.”

    There are plenty of additional examples in the published literature of vaccination failure in highly vaccinated populations. View 30+ studies on the topic here (https://www.greenmedinfo.health/keyword/vaccine-failure).
    There are also serious questions as to whether vaccines like DTaP are causing more harm than good. GreenMedInfo.com indexes peer-reviewed, published studies that confirm the unintended, adverse effects of vaccinations. You can view close to a thousand study abstracts on the subject on our Vaccination Database (https://www.greenmedinfo.health/anti-therapeutic-action/vaccination-all). The DTP vaccine has been linked to over 30 adverse health effects which you can viewed here: Vaccination: Diphtheria-Pertussis-Tetanus (https://www.greenmedinfo.health/anti-therapeutic-action/vaccination-diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus).


    Due to our advocacy on this subject, we have been systematically censored, including recent successful attempts to de-platform us from Mailchimp, Pinterest, and Google (learn more here (https://www.greenmedinfo.health/blog/founders-statement-regarding-censorship-efforts-de-platform-greenmedinfo-other-he)). Please learn more and support our cause by becoming a member (https://www.greenmedinfo.health/membership) or donating (https://www.greenmedinfo.health/donation/how-you-can-support-our-mission), and celebrating our 10 year anniversary with us.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 01 01, 20, 11:05:17:PM
    Injecting the flu vaccine into a tumor gets the immune system to attack it

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/12/injecting-the-flu-vaccine-into-a-tumor-gets-the-immune-system-to-attack-it/

    Activating the immune system at the site of a tumor can re-engage the immune system.

    Others have targeted a variety of pathogens to the sites of tumors and found that this increases the immune response to the tumor as well.

    To check whether something similar might happen be happening in humans, the researchers identified over 30,000 people being treated for lung cancer, and found those who also received an influenza diagnosis. You might expect that the combination of the flu and cancer would be very difficult for those patients, but instead, they had lower mortality than the patients who didn't get the flu.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 02, 20, 01:30:42:AM
    “Studies show that by five years after completion of the DTaP series, children were up to 15 times more likely to acquire pertussis compared to the first year after the series.”


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 04, 20, 03:38:08:PM
    This...


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 05, 20, 02:56:40:AM
    This ...

    How to Prevent the Flu: Naturally, After Exposure, and More
    https://www.healthline.com › health › flu › how-to-prevent-flu-naturally (https://www.healthline.com/health/flu/how-to-prevent-flu-naturally)

    Here's a look at six practical ways to keep yourself safe this flu season....


    And this ....


    How to Dodge the Flu Without a Shot - WebMD
    https://www.webmd.com › Cold, Flu, & Cough › Feature Stories (https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/features/how-to-dodge-flu-without-shot)

    Oct 22, 2004 - Even without a flu shot, you can still do something to protect yourself. ... three easy steps to prevent infection with the flu especially during a time .




    I haven’t gotten the flu or taken a flu shot since the 80’s following the advice above, so please don’t hate me because I am informed ! (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 05, 20, 11:46:51:AM
    I can't hate you Sine. I was raised to have empathy for the mentally challenged, such as yourself.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 05, 20, 09:12:24:PM
    LOL. You are still an idiot an uninformed one to boot (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: davik62 on 01 05, 20, 09:19:43:PM
    Sinus NEVER leaves its cave, so of course it would NEVER get the flu.

    DUH!


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 05, 20, 10:38:53:PM
    I make a post about another uninformed idiot and look

    who comes a runnin

    A childish uninformed idiot duuuuuuhhhhhmbvik (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/laugh.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: seahooker on 01 05, 20, 10:47:35:PM
    If you are over 50 and had chicken pox, I would highly recommend the shingles 2 part vaccine. shingles aint no fun!


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 05, 20, 11:27:07:PM
    Take a natural remedy for shingles ....



    An L-lysine regimen may prevent or reduce the occurrence of cold sores. If you already have a cold sore, L-lysine may help heal the sore more quickly.

    The protein-building amino acid may also aid in digestion. It’s said to help your gastrointestinal tract absorb calcium. This added calcium can contribute to new bone tissue.

    Your body doesn’t produce lysine, so you must consume it through the foods you eat. If your diet is lacking in lysine, you may have a compromised immune system. You may also develop higher levels of stress and anxiety. One 2004 study found that a diet rich in lysine can reduce these levels.

    Herpes is a cousin of shingles virus.  My chick and I take 1000mg day to have far less outbreaks and Triple that for outbreaks tp heal in just a couple days !

    No need for Big Pharma and their side effects !


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: KensanIV on 01 06, 20, 04:21:24:AM
    I've received a flu shot annually yearly for 30 years.  I haven't had a problem yet.  My wife never got one until about 5 or 6 years go, then she got a serious case of the flu. It lasted about six weeks.


    Since then she has been faithful and gets her shots.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 06, 20, 04:26:03:AM
    There are plenty of additional examples in the published literature of vaccination failure in highly vaccinated populations. View 30+ studies on the topic here (https://www.greenmedinfo.health/keyword/vaccine-failure).


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 01 07, 20, 11:27:09:AM


    US on track for one of the worst flu seasons in decades

    https://www.ksl.com/article/46699360/us-on-track-for-one-of-the-worst-flu-seasons-in-decades

    This flu season is shaping up to be one of the worst in decades, according to the United States' top infectious disease doctor.

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said while it's impossible to predict how the flu will play out, the season so far is on track to be as severe as the 2017-2018 flu season, which was the deadliest in more than four decades, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    "The initial indicators indicate this is not going to be a good season — this is going to be a bad season," Fauci said.

    So far this flu season, at least 2,900 people in the U.S. are estimated to have died of the flu, according to data released Friday by the CDC. That's 800 more deaths than estimated the previous week.

    Flu cases and hospitalizations because of the flu have also risen sharply since the season began in October. CDC estimates there have been at least 6.4 million flu illnesses and 55,000 hospitalizations.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 07, 20, 04:12:38:PM
    Went to my dentist yesterday, the best one I’ve ever found

    and asked if they all got their flu shots, which are admittedly not very effective

    I was told this year they did not, none of them as they are taking the advice of an ND

    this time around to prevent the flu! 


    Kudos to “awake” medical professionals ! (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 01 08, 20, 12:05:27:PM
    Child Flu Deaths Hit Record High for This Time of Year

    https://www.livescience.com/flu-deaths-children.html

    This year's flu season is shaping up to be a severe one, particularly for children.

    So far this season, 27 U.S. children have died from the flu, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). That's the highest number of pediatric flu deaths reported at this point in the flu season since 2003, when the CDC started tracking child flu deaths, according to CNN.

    For comparison, during the 2017-2018 flu season, which was one of the worst flu seasons in recent years, 13 pediatric flu deaths were reported at this point in the season, according to CDC data. (By the end of the 2017-2018 season, 187 children had died from the flu, making it a particularly deadly flu season.)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 08, 20, 03:11:54:PM
    Sadly,  stupid people like our retarded moronic friend Sine doesn't mind mind causing sickness and death to others due to his selfish imbecilic decision to not spread diseases by being science denier and a potential carrier.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 08, 20, 06:25:00:PM
    Even more sadly idiots like W...BS here like being a sheep a gullible stooge for Big Pharma and any other Goobermint propaganda

    unable to discern viable alternatives or even research on his own to see the other side of the story!

    That’s what make him and those like him so easily led and controlled by liars and cheats a true leftist!(https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/evil.gif)

    Pity them but expose their ignorance! (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 09, 20, 01:58:47:PM
    I have researched alternatives. The best and most reliable preventative is vaccinations. I pity you for your ignorance and rejection of science. But those are the traits that makes you a Trump supporter.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 01 09, 20, 09:46:25:PM
    Child dies of the flu in Chicago, marking first pediatric influenza death this season (https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-chicago-flu-death-illinois-20200109-5wxxjnx6gvh47ay2najmssjqru-story.html#nt=oft-Double%20Chain~Recommender~top-news-curated-chain~more-top-news-rec~~2~no-art~automated~curatedpage)


    for sine, it's just a game...for the rest of us, it's real life.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 10, 20, 02:32:11:AM
    Alternatives works for me and many other including my dentist office.

    Being a gullible stooge is what makes you a liberal sheep Democrat that support hoaxes like Russian collusion and impeachment on hearsay  !


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 01 11, 20, 02:58:36:AM
    Wisconsin's first pediatric flu death of season reported

    https://www.wisn.com/article/first-pediatric-flu-death-of-season-reported-in-wisconsin/30473353#

    The first pediatric flu death of this year's flu season has been reported in Wisconsin.

    State health officials said the death occurred in southeastern Wisconsin.

    The child was under 10 years old, got sick very quickly and died on the way to the hospital.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: bluespower on 01 11, 20, 12:08:27:PM
    1917-1919 flu pandemic
    ?20million usa deaths
    ?hundreds of million world wide deaths

    I bet those causalities wish they had a vaccine


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 11, 20, 02:39:40:PM
    ^^^ What BluesPower said.^^^


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 12, 20, 02:51:20:AM
    I bet they wished they knew what we do today without vaccines (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 12, 20, 08:04:41:PM
    Just to show how brainwashed and out of touch with reality JW here is,  .... vaccines ARE political apparently, to her ignorance ....


    WIKIHOW TEACHES CHILDREN HOW TO ‘GET VACCINATED IN SECRET’ BY SCHEMING AGAINST ‘ANTI-VAXXER’ PARENTS WHO MAY ‘ABUSE’ THEIR OWN CHILDREN (https://www.infowars.com/wikihow-teaches-children-how-to-get-vaccinated-in-secret-by-scheming-against-anti-vaxxer-parents-who-may-abuse-their-own-children/)


    Mike Adams | Natural News (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-01-12-wikihow-vaccine-propaganda-teaches-children-how-to-lie-to-parents.html) - January 12, 2020 - (https://www.infowars.com/wikihow-teaches-children-how-to-get-vaccinated-in-secret-by-scheming-against-anti-vaxxer-parents-who-may-abuse-their-own-children/#disqus_thread)Database goes insane with vaccine propaganda, portrays government as real guardians of children.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 12, 20, 11:17:53:PM
    BIGGEST MEDICAL SCANDAL IN HISTORY BREAKING! UN COMES CLEAN, ADMITS VACCINE DEATH / DAMAGE COVERUP (https://www.infowars.com/biggest-medical-scandal-in-history-breaking-un-comes-clean-admits-vaccine-death-damage-coverup/)
    This bombshell report reveals WHO scientist laying out massive vaccine dangers — share this critical link across all platforms!


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 13, 20, 01:04:48:AM
    Not taking advantage of vaccinations for children IS child abuse.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 13, 20, 10:01:23:PM
    Giving children UNproven injections with dangerous ingredients which has killed and maimed

    IS child abuse (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/evil.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 01 15, 20, 02:30:15:PM
    Flu leaves 4-year-old Iowa girl blind; Parents: ‘Get your child vaccinated’

    https://kdvr.com/2020/01/14/flu-leaves-4-year-old-iowa-girl-blind/

    A 4-year-old girl in Iowa nearly died and is now blind because of the flu, and her parents have a message: Get your child vaccinated.

    “If I can stop one child from getting sick, that’s what I want to do,” said Amanda Phillips. “It’s terrible to see your child suffer like this.”

    Jade DeLucia, who did not receive a flu shot this season, caught the flu a few days before Christmas and spent nearly two weeks in the intensive care unit at the University of Iowa Stead Family Children’s Hospital.

    “She is lucky to be alive,” said one of her physicians, Dr. Theresa Czech. “She’s a little fighter. And I think she’s super lucky.”


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 15, 20, 05:56:32:PM
    On December 2nd and 3rd, the UN-funded WHO held a Global Vaccine Safety Summit (https://www.who.int/news-room/events/detail/2019/12/02/default-calendar/global-vaccine-safety-summit) where scientists admitted that vaccines are killing people, adjuvants in the vaccines are part of the problem, and they have not conducted adequate safety studies. This is a bombshell report!


    https://www.who.int/news-room/events/detail/2019/12/02/default-calendar/global-vaccine-safety-summit (https://www.who.int/news-room/events/detail/2019/12/02/default-calendar/global-vaccine-safety-summit)

    (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/evil.gif)

    Child Dies From Flu Shot | Live Healthy and Well‎ (https://s.healthnwell.com/serp?q=child%20dies%20from%20flu%20shot)
    s.healthnwell.com/Respiratory/Conditions‎ (https://s.healthnwell.com/serp?q=child%20dies%20from%20flu%20shot)
    Locate Health Information on Child Dies From Flu Shot.  (https://s.healthnwell.com/serp?q=child%20dies%20from%20flu%20shot)
    (https://s.healthnwell.com/serp?q=child%20dies%20from%20flu%20shot)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 16, 20, 07:46:15:AM
    Sad...


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 16, 20, 06:29:23:PM
    Yes, you are sad (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/grin.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 01 16, 20, 08:36:35:PM
    11 more flu-related deaths reported in North Carolina, bringing total to 33

    https://www.wxii12.com/article/11-more-flu-related-deaths-north-carolina-33-total/30550543#

    Eleven people died from the flu between Jan. 5 and Jan. 11, bringing the total number of flu deaths in North Carolina to 33 since Sept. 29, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.

    At least one of the 33 deaths this year involved a child.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 16, 20, 09:13:59:PM
    I'll bet the thousands that were crippled by, or died from complications of polio wish Sal had developed the vaccine sooner.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 17, 20, 02:58:47:AM
    Jonas Salk admitted he was responsible... - Californians for ... (https://www.facebook.com/CaliforniansAgainstSB277/posts/jonas-salk-admitted-he-was-responsible-for-the-polio-epidemicdoctors-and-scienti/1881215362197404/)(http://data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8/9hAAAA8UlEQVQ4jc2PO2oCYRhFj/r7yAjDBKwUCxeQQEDE4LiEkAVoY2FhN72IQsgy0ghZQEwRwUpUArGx0dI0FgpWoiKoMykEYUTyO9r4dfeDcx9w4bkAEk+VlnC5dSfgxjLbP5+VtABQtYguvAFHyZv1SgcQAP/BatCPkUsSvwuzWK6ZTOcYr/U9I2RJhUycx4coAJrqQVPtYVKDxH0EAKP8Trc33LUKxU43UG58APR/lzZQavD1lrXpRjUPwGg8I1+s7f9uWYPDa34PTmuQen4BoPNRsmmfohFQbuUGh3uP7YczJlypwdbctp2Clml1Lg0H4A+fOzUNBim5WgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==)


    Jonas Salk admitted he was responsible for the polio epidemic. ...
    “When you inoculate children with a polio vaccine you don't sleep well for two or three weeks .

    I’ll bet W...BS here is one of the least informed monkeys on this board !


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 22, 20, 12:50:52:PM
    What a freaking moron you are. Children still get vaccinated against polio every day. If you weren't so stupid,  you would recognize that polio is not running rampant, blowing your theory out of the water. Brain damaged conspiracy theorists like you would be thre damnation of the world if you weren't so laughable.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 22, 20, 06:26:55:PM
    Apparently, they are not getting polio because they are not getting the vaccination you poor gullible govt stooge (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)

    Here is how they try to make you get polio so that the can sell their vaccines ....




    RELATIONSHIP OF TONSILLECTOMY TO POLIOMYELITIS ... (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/1881071)(http://data:image/png;base64,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)
    by TC Galloway - ‎1953 - ‎Cited by 7 (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&biw=1112&bih=692&uact=5&um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&cites=4205691742714266278) - ‎Related articles (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&biw=1112&bih=692&uact=5&um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&q=related:pgJHd1ueXTrm0M:scholar.google.com/)There are still honest differences of opinion regarding the hazard of tonsillectomy in the presence of poliomyelitis

    THE EFFECT OF PRIOR TONSILLECTOMY ON INCIDENCE ... (https://academic.oup.com/aje/article-pdf/66/2/131/387063/66-2-131.pdf)(http://data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAMAAAAoLQ9TAAAAWlBMVEUAIUcAIEYKKk4AH0UAH0YGJUpMY35oe5IAHENido4MLFDDy9S+xtDg5OlIX3t5ip5xg5iMm6y1vskzTWwRMFPt7/L29/nU2eAjPl/k5+scOVvO1dwrR2aGlqi8JmogAAAAe0lEQVQYlY1O0RKDIAwrLQhVqeBQNzf+/zfHQJ52t1seemnSSwPwHzQgltGhjCxhiYNR1455vWFiH7EpZDdxoCjsTPVgnI5ULLo/Zvzk6LOQZvizCb4KGruAcyUqHdNYU4l3dgBONkvX2/gUNK81Yy9ihmw5SC/2Xf033obNBMEeHGvtAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC)
    by RS PAFFENBARGER JR - ‎1957 - ‎Cited by 26 (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&biw=1112&bih=692&uact=5&um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&cites=11406293921519612917) - ‎Related articles (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&biw=1112&bih=692&uact=5&um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&q=related:9bPfc-NLS56DFM:scholar.google.com/)Convincing evidence has accumulated to show a statistical association between previous tonsillectomy and increased risk of contracting poliomyelitis


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: WWV10MHZ on 01 22, 20, 07:16:48:PM
    I know a lot of people that are firmly against getting a flu shot.

    It seems that most of them don't get the flu, or haven't so far.

    That seems a crapshoot to me.

    We all get it in our Family since it seems better than taking the risk. Can't remember the last time any of us got the flu.

    We get colds & upper respiratory infections just like everyone else, but not the flu.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I can still remember getting a Polio Shot at school.

    The Med Folks came in and all the kids lined up in the hallway heading toward the Gym and got the shot with some kind
       of pressure gun.  POW-POW-POW  One right after the other until everyone was done and back to classes. There was
       no Permission Slips or Parental involvement. If you were in school that day, you GOT the shot. Anyone that was absent
       got the shot from the School Nurse when they got back.

    I don't know a single person that ever ended up with Polio.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 23, 20, 02:41:04:AM
    I haven’t had the flu in decades or a flu shot,

    I never knew anyone who got polio either but I’ve read where a state Govenor AZ I think it was asked to stop the vaccinations
    Because more kids were getting it than they had before the vaccinations started !

    We all got our tonsils & adenoids out when we were kids, who knew they were there to stop one from getting polio ???


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 01 23, 20, 02:39:03:PM
    Flu season is still going strong in N.J., as cases continue to mount  (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/shocked.gif)

    https://www.nj.com/healthfit/2020/01/flu-season-is-still-going-strong-in-nj-as-cases-continue-to-mount.html

    The flu in New Jersey is still going strong.

    Flu activity remains high in all regions of the state, and emergency room visits and admissions continue to top the three most active flu seasons recorded in New Jersey at this point in the year, according to the latest data from the state health department.

    There were 3,638 cases of influenza B reported statewide — 1,500 more than two weeks ago, according to this week’s report. So far, there have been two flu-related pediatric deaths.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: davik62 on 01 23, 20, 03:09:55:PM
    The Flu is coming to Get You!

    It's Going to GET you ALL!


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 23, 20, 03:14:47:PM
    "I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure,"


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 23, 20, 05:18:08:PM
    How to Dodge the Flu Without a Shot
    Even without a flu shot, you can still do something to protect yourself.

    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/features/how-to-dodge-flu-without-shot#1 (https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/features/how-to-dodge-flu-without-shot#1)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: zsq987 on 01 23, 20, 05:28:46:PM
    My Doctor said the best time to get a Flu Shot is between Halloween and Thanksgiving.

    She also said that Seniors over 65 may need a second shot 3 months later.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 24, 20, 12:33:25:AM
    Sine, I suggest you do not get any vaccines at all. In fact you should avoid all medical advice as though it were science. Actually, even if you get bit by a rabid dog, there is probably some sort of oogly boogly steps you can take without any of that garbage the scientists and medical profession tries to shove down your throat.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 24, 20, 12:52:49:AM
    W....BS, I suggest you read my post so you won’t repeat what said in some of them like you were saying something

    new and seemingly relevant only to you (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/cheesy.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 25, 20, 11:26:03:AM
    My friend, you get less relevant with every post. You are as dumb as a box of rocks, and so easy to get going. I do enjoy reading your posts. They are always good for a laugh.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 01 25, 20, 03:03:19:PM
    According to CDC, this year's flu season has led to at least 5.9 million medical visits and 120,000 hospitalizations.

    The data also shows that between 6,600 and 17,000 flu-related deaths occurred from Oct. 1, 2019, to Jan. 11.

    In addition, while CDC found that the percentage of outpatient visits for influenza-like illness decreased to 4.7% in the week ending Jan. 11, that figure remains above the national baseline of 2.4%.

    https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/01/22/flu-update


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 26, 20, 02:58:57:AM
    You don’t seem able to comprehend my posts here W...BS


    admitting that is the only honesty you seem to possess (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 01 26, 20, 03:37:45:AM
    I provide facts.

    Provided by respected medical sources - and the US Government - as reported in the media.


    You provide baseless opinions.

    I regret that you insist on exposing your shortcomings with every post.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 26, 20, 05:14:14:AM
    I provide facts.Published and verified.

    Provided by respected medical sources - and the US Government - as reported in the media.


    Your inability to accept them just shows your extreme bias closed minded bigotry and brainwashing,


    I pity you JW !


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 26, 20, 03:38:05:PM
    Published and verified by folks whose feeble minds are as warped as your own, Sine.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 26, 20, 07:13:34:PM
    From one who can’t even read my posts accurately I say pppppppppppsssdttt, (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/cheesy.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 28, 20, 11:57:53:AM
    I read your posts. They are just not coherent, reasonable, true, or well thought out.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 28, 20, 07:05:24:PM
    The published facts in my post speak for themselves

    Because you are to stupid to understand that tells a lot about you W....BS !


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: wmdn_bs on 01 30, 20, 12:39:18:PM
    The fact that publishing does not necessarily establish truth just makes you another pathetic, gullible conspiracy theorist.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 01 31, 20, 06:40:21:PM
    In my posts they certainly do (https://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)

    Wnich makes you a easily led gullible laughable but sad tool of the Goobermint and Big Pharma  certainly


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: Jw2 on 02 13, 20, 02:19:55:AM
    Student has died after battle with flu, pneumonia

    https://www.wandtv.com/news/student-has-died-after-battle-with-flu-pneumonia/article_8feace88-4c5a-11ea-93ac-77beb89f2ad4.html?fbclid=IwAR1gARHgL7k4w01kMw7_a1ahZL-BD0sJj7crD4MWrQdfagnZpWNXXVxvnGk

    CHATHAM, Ill. (WAND) - A school district announced the passing of one of its students Monday.

    The Ball-Chatham School District is mourning the death of Joey Sandhaas, a junior at Glenwood High School. Sandhaas said he became sick with the flu recently, which later became pneumonia. He was in the hospital in critical condition after his organs began failing and oxygen stopped flowing to parts of his body.


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: sine-qua-non on 02 13, 20, 06:41:17:PM
    Looks like the flu vaccine didn’t work for him ^^^^^

    nor does it for many others but keep on believing it does,

    Big Pharma depends  on you being a lemming (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/evil.gif)


    Title: Re: (non-political) Flu Shots
    Post by: bluespower on 02 14, 20, 09:50:28:AM
    one exception out of 10000...100000

    you near sightedness is a dangerous view