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Title: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: chuck_curtis on 06 14, 19, 01:43:14:PM
Iranian gunboats surrounded a rescue vessel carrying the crew of the tanker damaged outside the Persian Gulf and ordered the captain to turn over the sailors, Fox News reported, citing American officials.

Hyundai Dubai picked up the sailors from the Front Altair tanker but Iranian gunboats surrounded the ship and demanded that the tanker’s crew be surrendered, the U.S. officials said. The captain of Hyundai Dubai eventually complied with the order.

The 23 crew members are now in Iran. According to an Iranian news agency, 11 of the crew were Russian, 11 Filipino and one Georgian.

The forced detention of the crew is the latest evidence pointing to Iran’s involvement in the attacks. The United States accused Iran on May 13 of orchestrating the attacks on the tankers. The U.S. military later released video footage which it says shows Iran’s military removing an unexploded mine from one of the tankers. President Donald Trump blamed Iran on June 14 for the attacks.

Iran has denied any involvement. The Islamic regime has previously threatened to counter sanctions on its oil exports by blocking the Strait of Hormuz, a strategic maritime passage through which one-fifth of the world’s consumer oil flows.
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/iranian-gunboats-surrounded-vessel-that-rescued-tanker-crew-detained-sailors_2963537.html

Strange chit


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 14, 19, 03:15:57:PM
It like the Reagan years all over again!

Iran continues to provoke reactions that are not good for its people!


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: omiaqt on 06 14, 19, 03:19:03:PM
Didn't our Navy supposedly rescue everyone on both ships?


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 14, 19, 03:22:44:PM
The Russian crew members will be swiftly returned to Russia as Russian and Iran are allies!

The Filipinos will be held hostage for either money or US concessions!


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: Mystic on 06 14, 19, 03:24:58:PM
You can't fix stupid. It's like Dems get involved with Russians but accuse Trump of involving with Russians.


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 14, 19, 04:06:25:PM
(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/upload/2k0d624a86b0.png)
Notice the placement of the limpet mines!

Not below the water line but above it!

The obvious purpose of this is to cause as large a spill as possible without sinking the ship!

Now ask yourselves, why a large spill with the ship still afloat be desirable?


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: gwboolean on 06 14, 19, 04:38:32:PM
Deja vu all over again!

Proud K3urtis has apparently dusted off all of his old bullshit and bullshit from 2003 and has repurposed it for 2019.  Very efficient Proud K3urtis.  But you might do better using the material provided for you by your Russian IRA masters.


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 14, 19, 04:39:34:PM
Yep, Democrats side with Iran just as they did during the Reagan presidency!


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 14, 19, 06:58:26:PM
Washington (CNN)In the hours before the attack on the two tankers (https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/us-iran-tankers-diplomacy-warfare-pompeo/index.html) in the Gulf of Oman on Thursday, the Iranians spotted a US drone flying overhead and launched a surface-to-air missile at the unmanned aircraft, a US official told CNN.

The missile missed the drone and fell into the water, the official said.
Prior to taking fire, the American MQ-9 drone observed Iranian vessels closing in on the tankers, the official added, though the source did not say whether the unmanned aircraft saw the boats conducting an actual attack.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/us-drone-tracked-iranian-boats/index.html

Now Iran is attacking US Navy unmanned aircraft!

Still no answer to my question from any Democrat!

Remember, Iranian acts in this matter amount to both terrorism and piracy!

Under international law at this point we would be wholly justified in destroying the Iranian navy!


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 14, 19, 07:52:54:PM
Still no answer!

 Why would a large spill with the ship still afloat be desirable?


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: gwboolean on 06 14, 19, 08:47:26:PM
Yep, Proud Dil2Do is said exactly the same thing he said in 2003.  The only difference is he substituted Iran for Iraq.  The Base really seems to believe anyone is going to buy this shit a second time after what happened last time.  Certainly we all know how his pathetic lies turned out that time.

Fool us once.  Same on you.  Fool us twice.  We'll put you on ice.


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 14, 19, 08:54:55:PM
Still no answer!

 Why would a large spill with the ship still afloat be desirable?


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: gwboolean on 06 14, 19, 10:12:29:PM
Still repeating the same lies he told in 2003 and expecting us to believe him.

Why does Proud Dil2Do and Dummy Don want to go to war for Saudi Arabia?


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 14, 19, 10:22:38:PM
(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/upload/2k0d624a86b0.png)
Notice the placement of the limpet mines!

Not below the water line but above it!

The obvious purpose of this is to cause as large a spill as possible without sinking the ship!

Now ask yourselves, why a large spill with the ship still afloat be desirable?


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 14, 19, 10:23:28:PM
Why can't the Japanese protect their ships d2?   They have a modern Navy.


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 14, 19, 10:26:13:PM
Why do you think it's America's job to go to war again in the Middle East when nobody's attacked us or our ships.


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 14, 19, 10:51:21:PM
 
Why can't the Japanese protect their ships d2?   They have a modern Navy.

Look it up by checking the Japanese constitution as written by MacArthur!

 
Why do you think it's America's job to go to war again in the Middle East when nobody's attacked us or our ships.
Again, you insist America not live up to her treaty/alliance obligations!


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 14, 19, 10:58:45:PM
In July 2014, Japan's government approved a reinterpretation of this article. This reinterpretation would allow Japan to exercise the right of "collective self defense" in some instances and to engage in military action if one of its allies were to be attacked. It is considered by some parties as illegitimate, posing a serious danger to Japan's democracy since the Prime Minister circumvented the constitutional amendment procedure, dictating a radical change to the meaning of fundamental principles in the Constitution by way of Cabinet fiat without Diet debate, vote, or public approval. International reaction to this move was mixed. China expressed a negative view of this reinterpretation, while the US, Philippines, Vietnam, and Indonesia reacted positively. The government of South Korea did not oppose the reinterpretation, but noted that it would not approve of SDF operations in and around the Korean peninsula without its request or approval, and called upon Japan to act in a way that would win the trust of neighboring states.

In May 2017, Japanese Prime Minister Abe set a 2020 deadline for revising Article 9, which would legitimize the JSDF in the Constitution.


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 14, 19, 11:00:32:PM
Thank you for proving me correct!


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 14, 19, 11:01:24:PM
While the questionable constitutionality of Abe’s reinterpretation engendered much debate and protest in Japan and abroad, the U.S. government effectively ignored such rhetoric and gave the reinterpretation its blessing, as it has for decades been pushing Japan to repeal Article 9 so that it could assist the United States and its allies during the Cold War.

Now that Abe’s reinterpretation has been accepted, the United States seems to have finally achieved this desire. It has responded to Abe’s declaration by reaffirming its support for Japan in its regional disputes and significantly increasing military assistance and cooperation with Japan.


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 14, 19, 11:18:33:PM
Are you saying escorting ships in the Strait of Hormuz is a regional duty?


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: dont-blameme on 06 14, 19, 11:34:09:PM
Leftist democrats like wvit believes America should turn it's back on our allies, SO LEFTIST DEMOCRATS LIKE WVIT CAN ACCUSE A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT OF TURNING HIS BACK ON OUR ALLIES!


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 14, 19, 11:40:19:PM
Yep!


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 14, 19, 11:43:52:PM
no, that would be self defense.


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 15, 19, 12:05:51:AM
Nope that would be abandoning our allies and breaking treaty obligations!


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: warrenpees on 06 15, 19, 03:08:09:PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/xxIrGPEU9Ac


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: warrenpees on 06 15, 19, 03:15:00:PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/Vf1x2uZrz-c


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 15, 19, 03:22:39:PM
I still don't see why the US is worried about Iran.   Iran isn't attacking the US, they've never attacked the US.


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 15, 19, 09:24:22:PM
Wvit lies again and again!

Iran has a great deal of American blood on its greedy hands!

Iran support of terrorism links:

http://www.clarionproject.org/sites/default/files/Iranian-Support-For-Terrorism.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/axis/terror.html

http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/Iran

http://nypost.com/2015/05/13/obama-says-iran-sponsors-terrorism/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-report-finds-35-rise-in-global-terror-attacks-in-2014-1434720328

http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm

http://www.iranterrorism.org/index.html

The sources are endless!

For the eternally and intentionally ignorant, Wvit!

Iran has illegally laundered billions of dollars through the Venezuelan financial sector and is currently stashing "hundreds of millions"
of dollars in "virtually every Venezuelan bank today," according to a former senior State Department official.

"It’s a huge blind spot in those trying to implement sanctions" on Iran, Roger Noriega, a former United States ambassador and
assistant secretary of state for western hemisphere affairs, told the Washington Free Beacon.

Venezuela served as Iran’s closest Western ally under the late President Hugo Chavez, who allowed the rogue regime to establish
a military and financial presence at the highest levels of the Venezuelan government.

Iran’s foothold in the country is expected to grow exponentially under the rule of Chavez’s likely successor, Vice President Nicolas Maduro.

Noriega and other experts warned House lawmakers at a Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on Wednesday that Iran’s terrorist proxy Hezbollah is
gaining power in Venezuela.

Hezbollah, which carries out terrorist attacks on Iran’s behalf, has helped Tehran access Venezuela’s sophisticated financial sector, experts said.

"It’s easy to say billions have been laundered through various Iranian enterprises and institutions through the Venezuelan economy," Noriega told
the Free Beacon in an interview Thursday. "The Iranians have seized on this as a way to evade sanctions."

Hezbollah has not only infiltrated Venezuela’s governmental bodies. The organization has also established terrorist training facilities on the country’s
Margarita Island, according to Noriega.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/the-iran-hezbollah-venezuela-axis/


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 15, 19, 09:25:26:PM
(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/upload/2k0d624a86b0.png)
Notice the placement of the limpet mines!

Not below the water line but above it!

The obvious purpose of this is to cause as large a spill as possible without sinking the ship!

Now ask yourselves, why a large spill with the ship still afloat be desirable?

Then ask yourselves, why Democrats fear the answer?


Title: Re: Iran denies involvement but gets involved
Post by: D2D on 06 17, 19, 01:39:06:AM
Seems Democrats dare not answer my questions!

They fear the answers!