You don't know chit!!!

oh ziggy......change the channel. It is all the news. The cocky NRA's grip is loosening.

Not according to Our President's Rally tonight!!!!!

NRA is stronger than ever!!!!

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It seems that all The Base has left are the President I1 rallies.  As for the NRA, they really do have some money laundering problems to deal with and it ain't going to go well for them.  It does make you think, considering the fact that the NRA is part of The Red State, how deep this Russian cancer has spread in the US.  We have known for awhile that President I1, his family, and many in his administration, as well as all of The Base have been completely infiltrated and are run by the Russians.  Now we keep looking under rocks and find that The Red State and even the TrEA$on party have been engaging with the Russians.

This is all going to have to be investigated and addressed soon.  But first we impeach President I1.

https://www.youtube.com/v/zR9NHjDi4EA

https://www.youtube.com/v/UMkbB3VKm0Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMkbB3VKm0Y

https://www.youtube.com/v/cfDJAZS74_w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfDJAZS74_w

https://www.youtube.com/v/2PZgNjGwhA0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PZgNjGwhA0

https://www.youtube.com/v/ve6g0Q2EA98

Warren admits defeat!

It happens so often you would thing it would be a habit by now!

NRA is a shell of what it once stood for.

Just like Trump, they lie, cheat and steal from the American people,
AND they are BOTH in Russia's back pocket.

https://www.youtube.com/v/AmWAFz7LjKs

You trumpies will require help to understand this, as it involves statistics and facts.

https://www.youtube.com/v/bX4qUsgHa4Y

More leftist lies form Vox!

Warren still doesn't know the difference between fact and opinion!

Law abiding gun owners save a minimum of 392,500 lives annually!

Proving guns are not a public health problem but a contributor to good public health!

An average minimum of 1075 lives are saved by law abiding gun owners every day!

Fact: Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times –
        more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds.₂₄₃ Of these instances, 15.7% of the people using firearms defensively
        stated that they "almost certainly" saved their lives by doing so.
Firearms are used 60 times more often to protect lives than to take lives.

<sub>243 Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Kleck and Gertz, Fall 1995
http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6853&context=jclc (http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6853&context=jclc)

Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by
criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about
300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15941-cdc-study-ordered-by-obama-contradicts-white-house-anti-gun-narrative (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15941-cdc-study-ordered-by-obama-contradicts-white-house-anti-gun-narrative)
http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#g24a (http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#g24a)</sub>

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Unnatural death rate comparison aka murder/suicide
USA....................16.8 per 100,000
Japan..................22.1 per 100,000
UK.....................07.4 per 100,000
Mexico.................26.7 per 100,000
As of 2014
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_death_rate

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Myth: Gun ownership is linked to higher homicide rates

Fact: This "study"₂₄₉ has multiple defects which, when corrected, reverse the results. Some of the defects of this study include:
• Exclusion of the District of Columbia, a high crime city
• Use of other crime rates to indirectly explain homicide rates
• Use of purely cross-sectional data that never allowed control variable analysis
• Data from different years is used without any explanation (unemployment rate from 2000 to explain the homicide rate from 2001 to 2003, etc.).

Myth: Handguns are 43 times more likely to kill a family member than a criminal

Fact: Of the 43 deaths reported in this flawed study, 37 (86%) were suicides. Other deaths involved criminal activity between the family members (botched drug deals).₂₅₀

Fact: Of the remaining deaths, the deceased family members include felons, drug dealers, violent spouses committing assault, and other criminals.₂₅₁

Fact: Only 0.1% of the defensive uses of guns results in the death of the predator.₂₅₂ This means you are much more likely to prevent a crime without bloodshed
   than hurt a family member.


249 State-level homicide victimization rates in the US in relation to survey measures of household firearm ownership, 2001–2003, Matthew Miller, David Hemenway, Deborah Azrael,
    Harvard School of Public Health, October 27, 2006
250 Protection or Peril? An Analysis of Firearm-Related Deaths in the Home, Arthur L. Kellerman, D.T. Reay, 314 New Eng. J. Med. 1557-60, June 12, 1986. (Kellerman admits that his study did "not include
    cases in which burglars or intruders
    are wounded or frightened away by the use or display of a firearm." He also admitted his study did not look at situations in which intruders "purposely avoided a home known to be armed."
    This is a classic case of a "study" conducted to achieve
    a desired result. In his critique of this "study", Gary Kleck notes that the estimation of gun ownership rates was "inaccurate", and that the total population came from a non-random selection of only two cities.)
251 Protection or Peril? An Analysis of Firearm-Related Deaths in the Home, Arthur L. Kellerman, D.T. Reay, 314 New Eng. J. Med. 1557-60, June 12, 1986
252 Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America, Gary Kleck, New York: Aldine de Gruyter, 1991

MISCELLANEOUS STATISTICS

Number of firearms in America: Between 223,000,000 ₅₂₇ and 290,000,000 ₅₂₈

Number of firearm owning households: At least 50,600,000 ₅₂₉

Projected firearm owning households in America: 60-85 million

Number of guns used in crimes: 450,000 ₅₃₀

Percentage of guns used in crimes: 0.09%

<sub>527Guns Used in Crime, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Marianne W. Zawitz, 1995.
528Small Arms Survey, Graduate Institute of International Studies, 2008
529 Surveys show a “reported” ownership rate of 46%, but it is universally believed that these surveys under-reported
    (i.e., people that own firearms don’t want to admit so to a pollster). This is validated by surveys performed by the
    National Opinion Research Center. They perform their surveys face-to-face at the respondent’s home, and routinely
    have reported gun ownership rates 3-6% lower than telephone based surveys.

530 Ibid.</sub>

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Myth: Prison isn't the answer to crime control

Fact: From 1960-1980, per capita imprisonment for violent crimes fell from 738 to 227. In the same period, violent crime rates nationwide tripled.
Fact: Why does crime rise when criminals are released from prison early? Because they are likely to commit more crimes. 67.5% were re-arrested for
   new felonies or serious misdemeanors within three years. Extrapolating, those released felons killed another 2,282 people.₁₈₇
Fact: 45% of state prisoners were, at the time they committed their offense, under conditional supervision in the community – either on probation
   or on parole.₁₈₈ Keeping violent convicts in prison would reduce violent crimes.
Fact: Homicide convicts serve a little more than ½ of their original sentences.₁₈₉ Given that men tend to be less prone to violent behavior as they
   age ₁₉₀, holding them for their full sentences would probably reduce violence significantly.
Fact: Los Angeles County saw repeat offender and re-arrest rates soar after authorities closed jails and released prisoners early. In less than three
   years, early release of prisoners in LA resulted in:
     • 15,775 rearrested convicts ₁₉₁
     • 1,443 assault charges ₁₉₂
     • 518 robbery charges ₄₂
     • 215 sex offense charges ₄₂
     • 16 murder charges ₄₂

42   Weapons sell for just £50 as suspects and victims grow ever younger, The Times, August 24, 2007  http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/article1873117.ece
187 Reentry Trends in the U.S., Recidivism, Department of Justice, 1999  http://www.bjs.gov/content/reentry/recidivism.cfm
188 US Bureau of Justice Statistics, 1991  http://www.bjs.gov/
189 Firearm Use by Offenders, Bureau of Justice Statistics, November , 2001  http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=940
190 Homicide rates peak in the 18-24 year old group, Bureau of Justice Statistics, online database  http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
191 Releasing Inmates Early Has a Costly Human Toll, Los Angeles Times, May 14, 2006  http://articles.latimes.com/2006/may/14/local/me-jail14
192 Keep in mind these are just charges. Each arrested convict may have committed multiple crimes., Los Angeles Times, May 14, 2006
192 Keep in mind these are just charges. Each arrested convict may have committed multiple crimes.

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A website has been collecting crime data statistics for several years, and put together a list of the most crime-ridden cities. Guess which political party presides over the most violent?
You guessed it: Democrats.
Neighborhood Scout explains (http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/top100dangerous/) their methodology behind their research:

“Our research reveals the 100 most dangerous cities in America with 25,000 or more people, based on the number of violent crimes per 1,000 residents. Violent crimes include murder, rape,
armed robbery, and aggravated assault. Data used for this research are 1) the number of violent crimes reported to the FBI to have occurred in each city, and 2) the population of each city.”


16 out of the 20 cities with the highest violent crime rates have Democratic mayors. Two are Republican, and the other two are Independents. It is notable that one of the Republican controlled cities,
Atlantic City, had previously been managed by wave after wave of Democratic mayors.

https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/guess-which-political-party-presides-over-the-most-crime-ridden-cities/

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/top100dangerous/

Did you know gun free zones are determined by the property owners not the renters?

https://www.youtube.com/v/2z4RucTo0Sg&pbjreload=10

History for conservatives is the truth not the anti-American crap Democrats spew!

you sillty gun puzzie lemmings...


Oliver North has threatened to expose the illegal financial inner workings of the NRA.


There are those who say...that includes money laundering Russian money used to influence democratic elections in the United States.

Feel free to make excuses for traitors to America.

Remember. Ollie is one of youse people.

Jw2 continue invent ever more bizarre stories!

How sad to see someone so determined to end this nation!

Wow a shit load of might and maybes and no facts!

Just what I would expect from fake media and you, Jw2!

"The NRA is stronger than ever!!!!!" [sic]--ww11191v10mhzsq987, reply #3, 27 April 2019

LOL

Date: 17 April 2019
https://www.thetrace.org/features/nra-financial-misconduct-ackerman-mcqueen/

Date: 27 April 2019
https://www.thedailybeast.com/oliver-north-will-not-seek-reelection-as-nra-president-amid-investigation

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nra-suspends-top-lawyer-while-oliver-north-warns-group-could-lose-nonprofit-status?ref=scroll

https://cbs4indy.com/2019/04/27/oliver-north-ousted-at-nra-as-dirty-laundry-aired-at-indy-convention/

Date: 7 May 2019
https://www.thetrace.org/2019/05/nra-accountants-memo-unexplained-spending/

Wow a bunch of rumor and innuendo filled leftist hates sites!

1965hawks is so predictable!

NRA board member: 'Imperative' to clean house, move on from CEO Wayne LaPierre

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/prominent-nra-board-member-imperative-nra-cleans-house/story?id=63031988

A prominent board member of the National Rifle Association urged the organization to clean “its own house” and move on from CEO Wayne LaPierre’s leadership on Tuesday in a stunning escalation of the internal crisis that has plagued the organization in recent months.

Retired Lt. Col. Allen West, a former Republican congressman from Florida serving his second term on the board, announced in a blog post that he was withdrawing his support from LaPierre, citing concerns about alleged financial mismanagement within the organization and what he called “outright lies” told by Carolyn Meadows, the group's new president, and Charles Cotton, chairman of the NRA's audit committee, in LaPierre’s defense.

“There is a cabal of cronyism operating within the NRA and that exists within the Board of Directors,” West wrote. “It must cease, and I do not care if I draw their angst.”

West said that he had called for LaPierre’s resignation before the organization’s annual meeting in Indianapolis in April, where some of the first signs of serious trouble at the organization emerged.

“It is imperative that the NRA cleans its own house,” West wrote. “If we had done so in Indianapolis, much of this could have been rectified.”

https://www.youtube.com/v/N0Wn3Eey6dY

https://www.youtube.com/v/l5CguU7a9NI

Warren continues to prove childish name calling is all he is capable of!

To: d2dvd! and ww11191v10mhzsq987

Re: the NRA

Good Riddance!

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2019/06/26/nra-permanently-shutters-nratv-good-riddance/224044

Dear NRA Members,
 
As many of you may know, we have been evaluating if our investment in NRATV is generating the benefits needed. This consideration included the return on investment and the cost and the direction of the content. Many members expressed concern about the messaging on NRATV becoming too far removed from our core mission: defending the Second Amendment.
So, after careful consideration, I am announcing that starting today, we are undergoing a significant change in our communications strategy. We are no longer airing “live TV” programming. Whether and when we return to “live” programming is a subject of ongoing analysis.
The NRA will continue and improve our service on social media channels and our flagship website, www.nra.org (http://<a) – your trusted resource of information. Our many web sites will continue to showcase new and archived videos, as we reorganize much of this information in a way that better serves our key audiences.
What necessitated the change now is our conclusion that our longtime advertising firm and website vendor failed to deliver upon many contractual obligations it made to our Association.  The NRA will always hold our vendors to high standards and ask that they maximize their value to the Association. No exceptions.
Looking ahead, you can expect great things from your NRA. We will energize our messaging strategy, become more cost efficient, and promote the NRA’s singular focus like never before.  Simply put, our messaging strategy will advance the NRA’s core mission: to serve our members and fight for our Second Amendment. 


https://home.nra.org/nra-members/

Again 1965hawks and media matters are proven to be compulsive liars!

Good riddance to bad rubbish.   The NRA went from a great American organization to a collection of gun wacko's and fringe ideas.

Really?

So you hate the Second Amendment and all who defend it!

A true feeling of a totalitarian!

https://www.youtube.com/v/DLMMr0M55QM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLMMr0M55QM

Seems to be going just fine!

Top NRA executive Chris Cox resigns amid tumultuous time for the gun group

https://abcnews.go.com/US/top-nra-executive-chris-cox-resigns-amid-tumultuous/story?id=63962673 

Jw2 why do you think that is important?

Do you really think the NRA will cease because one member of its leadership resigns?

Do you think its millions of members will suddenly give up their rights because of that one resignation?

Why does the idea of stripping millions of their rights make you happy?

Are you really that evil?

It's becoming abundantly clear...right wingers are corrupt and can't be trusted.

The NRA was compromised by the Russians and illegally laundered foreign money spent on our elections.

Good Riddance to NRA TV (https://thehill.com/homenews/media/450364-nra-shuts-down-future-production-of-nratv-report)

The failing NRA announced it is shutting down NRA TV and firing it's advertising firm and spokesperson Dana Loesch.

The shakeup comes at a time when the NRA is dealing with a leadership fight after having reported 2 straight years of financial losses.




Oh well, I guess it's back to RT News for the honest red-blooded American news.

More baseless nonsense from Jw2 as usual!

N.R.A. Donor Directs a Revolt Against a ‘Radioactive’ Leader

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/us/nra-donors-wayne-lapierre.html

Now one of the gun group’s major benefactors says he is preparing to lead an insurgency among wealthy contributors to oust Mr. LaPierre as chief executive, along with his senior leadership team. Such a rebellion would represent a troublesome new threat to Mr. LaPierre, as his organization’s finances and vaunted political machine are being strained amid a host of legal battles, most notably the New York attorney general’s investigation into its tax-exempt status.

David Dell’Aquila, the restive donor, said the N.R.A.’s internal warfare “has become a daily soap opera and it’s decaying and destroying the N.R.A. from within, and it needs to stop.” He added, “Even if these allegations regarding Mr. LaPierre and his leadership are false, he has become radioactive and must step down.”

To: d2dvd! and ww11191v10mhzsq987

 JSYK:

Date: 03 May 2019
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/wtf-nra-scandals-explainer-830567/

NYT and Rolling Stone?

LOL!

NRA meltdown has Trump campaign sweating

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/03/nra-guns-trump-campaign-1395970

Republicans worry that the NRA and two other groups that have long formed the core of their electoral infrastructure will be effectively on the sidelines.

The National Rifle Association aired an avalanche of TV ads and pushed its 5 million-plus members to the polls for Donald Trump in 2016, propelling him in the Rust Belt states that delivered him the presidency.
Now, the gun rights group is in total meltdown — and senior Republicans and Trump 2020 officials are alarmed.

In recent weeks, the NRA has seen everything from a failed coup attempt to the departure of its longtime political architect to embarrassing tales of self-dealing by top leaders. The turmoil is fueling fears that the organization will be profoundly diminished heading into the election, leaving the Republican Party with a gaping hole in its political machinery.

With the Chamber of Commerce and Koch political network withdrawing from their once-dominant roles in electing conservatives, Republicans worry that three organizations that have long formed the core of their electoral infrastructure will be effectively on the sidelines.
The predicament has so troubled some Republicans that they are calling on the famously secretive NRA to address its 2020 plans. Within the past week, senators have privately expressed concerns about the group to National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman Todd Young.

That is why the Bureaucracy is making war on the NRA!

Why are you choosing tyranny?

To: d2dvd! and ww11191v10mhzs1987

Re: the nra and the gop

https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-worried-about-nra-collapse-in-advance-of-2020-report-2019-7

More baseless opinion!

Do you really think the five million plus NRA members will simply disappear because you want them to?

To: d2dvd! and ww11191v10

ICYMI:

Date: 03 July 2019
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/03/nra-guns-trump-campaign-1395970

More baseless opinion!

Do you really think the five million plus NRA members will simply disappear because you want them to?

Re: replies #36, #46, and #48

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/nra-troubles-have-some-republicans-concerned-about-2020-voter-turnout-report

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/03/nra-guns-trump-campaign-1395970

https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-worried-about-nra-collapse-in-advance-of-2020-report-2019-7

More baseless opinion!

Do you really think the five million plus NRA members will simply disappear because you want them to?
                                                                                                                                       

If the NRA disappeared who would be left to help the crazies, criminals and terrorists acquire weapons?

Augie classifies law abiding citizens as "crazies, criminals and terrorists!"

He is just another hate America firster!

d2dvd!,

The truth of the matter is, every comment you've made in this thread so far has been nothing more than your baseless opinion, nothing you posted has disproved any claim made about the fraudulent, turmoil-racked,scandal- plagued, extremist, pro-gun, special-interest group that calls itself the National Rifle Association (NRA).

Date: 28 April 2019
https://the-immoral-minority.com/the-nra-starts-to-implode-right-in-the-middle-of-its-own-convention/

More baseless opinion!

Do you really think the five million plus NRA members will simply disappear because you want them to?

poor d2...like a broken record, keeps repeating the same deflection. 




Wayne LaPierre divided the NRA when he invoked Malia and Sasha Obama in gun control debate after Sandy Hook and fled to the Bahamas on a $95,000 all-expenses-paid trip following the massacre

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7210903/Defiant-Wayne-LaPierre-divided-NRA-invoked-Malia-Sasha-Obama-gun-control-debate.html

The National Rife Association firmly stood its ground on the issue of gun control in the days after the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newton, Connecticut despite a growing divide among senior officials inside the organization.

President Wayne LaPierre chose to declare just days after 20 students between the ages of five and six were massacred by a teenager with a semi-automatic rifle, that the NRA would begin to train armed security guards to be place in schools.

That was also when he declared for the first time the now-popular NRA mantra: 'The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.'

This unprecedented approach did not sit well with a number of NRA members according to the The Washington Post, which reports that many felt strongly that the group should not take a confrontational approach in the wake of this then-rare mass shooting.

He managed to further divide the group when he approved the release of a video a few weeks later than took aim at President Obama, who responded to the LaPierre's initial proposal in a appearance on Meet the Press by stating: 'I am skeptical that the only answer is putting more guns in schools.'

It was not President Obama who was the focus of that television spot however, but rather his daughters Malia and Sasha, who were 14 and 11 at the time.

Are the president's kids more important than yours? Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school?' asks a narrator, who goes on to label the president an 'elitist hypocrite.'

One of the group's top lobbyists, Jim Baker, publicly stated just days later: 'I don't think it was particularly helpful, that ad. I thought it was ill-advised.'

He continued; ' I think the ad could have made a good point, if it talked about the need for increased school security, without making the point using the president’s children.'

The television spot was the work of Ackerman McQueen, whose relationship with the NRA has since turned litigious.

Among the many complaints the firm had with the organization was LaPierre charging airfare, clothing and meals to a card provided to him by Ackerman McQueen.

LaPierre did not reimburse the agency however for a number of expenses, including the $94,682.25 he spent in flights for a trip he embarked on less than a week after the shooting.

That was the cost for a plane from Washington DC to Eleuthra ($39,947.50), Nassau to Dallas ($29,100.63) and Dallas to Palm Springs (25,634.12).

The brief stop in Dallas was for donor events according to the NRA, with LaPierre arriving on January 3 and taking off two days later for Palm Beach.

As for that 2013 ad, the agency said they were the producers but did not control the shaping of that content.

'Throughout the entire relationship with the NRA, Wayne LaPierre controlled every aspect of NRA public communications,' said a spokesperson for Ackerman McQueen.

More baseless opinion!


Do you really think the five million plus NRA members will simply disappear because you want them to?

I find it sad and shocking that today the Fourth of July Democrats are advocating for monarchy and an elitist one Democrat party state that desperately cleaves to foreign powers against the American people, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights!

Democrats continue to call for the disenfranchisement of more than half of the American population placing it in servitude of foreigners!

Democrats have effectively renounced their citizenship!

NRA CEO SPENT $70K ON TRIP TO BAHAMAS IN AFTERMATH OF SANDY HOOK SHOOTINGS TO DO OUTREACH TO DONORS, SUPPORTERS

https://www.newsweek.com/sandy-hook-nra-lapierre-gun-control-1447669

...internal travel records from Ackerman McQueen's chief financial officer, first reported by the Wall Street Journal, showed that three days after the mass shooting, LaPierre, who travels by private plane for security reasons, charged $39,947 for a private jet to Eleuthera in the Bahamas.

NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam, the NRA spokesman, told the Post: "There was a business trip after Christmas 2012 involving donor outreach and the recruitment of influential NRA supporters and members."

"Wayne is responsible for a campaign to raise almost $400 million annually, so he travels extensively on behalf of the Association — even over the holidays."

LaPierre then charged another private air charter on his Ackerman McQueen credit card: $29,100 on January 3 to fly from Nassau, Bahamas, to Dallas, which NRA officials said was part of a trip to donor and member events.

William A. Brewer III, a lawyer for the NRA, said most of LaPierre's travel involved "donor outreach, fundraising and stakeholder engagement" and that some travel expenses went through Ackerman McQueen for "confidentiality and security purposes," but that this method of billing has since been modified.

The finances have come to light due to a bitter legal dispute between Ackerman and the NRA which have parted company.

Ackerman said in a statement that it footed the initial bill for LaPierre's travel at the NRA's instructions but "did not have any knowledge of the plans or details of the expenditures in question."

The severance of ties with their advertising partner of the past 30 years is the latest blow to the NRA, who have suffered financial difficulties in recent times and have relied on at least $206 million worth of cash infusions and other transactions in order to steady its finances since 2010, according to the New York Times.

On June 26, LaPierre announced that live programming at NRATV, the television channel created in 2016 as a means of promoting their views of protecting the Second Amendment, was to stop.

To: d2dvd!, www11191v10mhzsq987, and local5th

ICYMI:

Date: 12 May 2019

https://www.foxnews.com/us/leaked-letters-reveal-details-of-nra-chiefs-alleged-spending

https://politicaldig.com/busted-nra-ceo-caught-in-new-scandal-involving-more-than-500000-leaked-docs/

Jw has source after source after source.

WHAT do you have DvD?  Nothing.  Nothing at all.

Nope, Democrats have nothing but rumor and innuendo after rumor an innuendo!

Not a single document your source presented, 1965hawks, has been proven to be genuine!

Additionally even if true it is the business solely of NRA members and no one else!

I bet the Clintons used far more money from the Clinton foundation as there is nothing unusual there!

Nonprofit is a con and always has been!

Delusional and disinformed local5th: Crazies, criminals, and terrorists do not benefit from the NRA.


local5th,

JSYK:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/01/how-the-nra-keeps-guns-in-the-hands-of-terrorism-domestic-violence-and-drug-crime-suspects.html

More opinion accompanied by no facts!

Facts?  you mean like legal documents submitted in a court case?



Oliver North says NRA is smearing him to avoid scrutiny

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oliver-north-says-nra-smearing-235358924.html

Oliver North, the retired Marine who was pushed out as president of the National Rifle Association in a dispute within the gun-rights group, said in court documents filed Thursday that he was thwarted when he tried to raise alarm bells about alleged misspending and denied that he tried to oust the organization's longtime top executive.

The documents detail concerns North said he raised over several months and the efforts he said he took to try to have NRA spending audited and reviewed by an outside, independent entity. He said the red flags began to emerge this past spring when he heard that NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre had received tens of thousands of dollars in clothing, private jet travel and other perks from the group's longtime marketing firm, Ackerman McQueen; he also has questioned money being paid to the law firm that has represented NRA in its fight against that firm.

North said in the filings that each time he raised concerns about potential financial misconduct, his efforts were "thwarted" by LaPierre and the NRA's lead counsel, William A. Brewer III.

d2dvd!,

Tell me whether or not the following article is a baseless opinion or a fact.

Date: 14 May 2019
https://therightscoop.com/allen-west-calls-out-wayne-lapierre-over-nra-spending-scandal/

Are you aware your actual source is the hill?

https://thehill.com/regulation/lobbying/443686-nra-board-member-allen-west-urges-ceo-lapierre-to-step-down

While claiming not to be opinion it doesn't quote West directly except for 3 words which makes it highly questionable!

It appears to be not fact and not opinion!

Why do you think it is scandalous for NRA members to call for adherence to established accounting principles?

Why does that make you happy?

both articles - and the documented story I posted demonstrate there is the "Unrest" that I started this thread with.

in general, the lesson to learn is that wealthy white guys are corruptible.  They believe they are entitled. 



The scandal under the surface is that the NRA has been taking Russian money. 

Since when is demanding adherence to basic accounting principles "unrest?"

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/01/how-the-nra-keeps-guns-in-the-hands-of-terrorism-domestic-violence-and-drug-crime-suspects.html (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/01/how-the-nra-keeps-guns-in-the-hands-of-terrorism-domestic-violence-and-drug-crime-suspects.html)


The NRA supports the constitution Hawk. Nothing more.

when the executive in charge is trying to thwart the adherence to business accounting principles.

this is about corporate corruption perpetuated by the CEO.

Democrat prosecutors have been targeting the NRA for decades to no avail!

Corruption has to be proved and all you have is rumor and innuendo!

Jw2 admits leftist prosecutors are targeting groups whose politics they don't like for malicious prosecution!

That is a violation of Rule of Law!

Jw2 admits leftist prosecutors are targeting groups whose politics they don't like for malicious prosecution!

That is a violation of Rule of Law!

http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?topic=278283.0

Another top NRA staffer departs amid upheaval

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/17/nra-public-affairs-departs-1418836

The turmoil at the National Rifle Association continues to build, with Jennifer Baker, the organization’s longtime director of public affairs, stepping down from her post.

Baker’s departure, which was confirmed by several people familiar with the matter, could further complicate the group’s ability to play in the 2020 election. She had been playing a key role in mapping out the NRA’s electoral strategy.

The move comes one month after Chris Cox, the NRA’s chief political architect, resigned. Cox had deep relationships with Republican political class, and with his exit many of the party’s top strategists have expressed concern that the organization will be severely hamstrung heading into the presidential election. The NRA plays a major role in turning out gun owners, and many in the party are worried that the group will be less effective in 2020.

People come and go!

Nothing new there!

To: d2dvd!, ww11191v10, and local5th

Re: the NRA

Date: 30 July 2019
https://www.thetrace.org/2019/07/william-brewer-nra-lawyer-finances/

Date: 17 April 2019
https://www.thetrace.org/features/nra-financial-misconduct-ackerman-mcqueen/

Opinion isn't fact, 1965hawks!

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d2dvd! : Opinion isn't fact.

   That's a false statement, d2dvd! But, of course, you don't realise it's false because you really don't know the definitions of either opinion or fact. Sincw you can't distinguish between the two, it stands to reason that it's impossible for you to know the difference between opinion  and fact. In other words, all you are doing here is talking out your arse--like you always do when you make preposterous and illogical claims in this forum. Despite your opinionated denial, the fact remains that the articles I provided for the forum's perusal are fact-based; and since only facts matter to me, I couldn't care less about your baseless opinions. What you really need to do is stop arguing your opinion as fact, take a seat, and shut the fuck up, d2dvd!

To: ww11191v10mhzsq987

Re: reply #81

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/nra-russia-and-trump-money-laundering-poisoning-us-democracy-commentary.html

3 NRA Board Members Resign In Latest Sign Of Dissent In Gun Group

https://www.yahoo.com/news/national-rifle-association-resignations-170928366.html


Board members Esther Schneider, Sean Maloney and Timothy Knight all resigned after asking for basic transparency into shady spending by chief executive Wayne LaPierre and other financial mismanagement in the group.

“Instead, we have been stonewalled, accused of disloyalty, stripped of committee assignments and denied effective counsel necessary to properly discharge our responsibilities as Board members,” the three wrote in a statement.

Part of the group’s financial irresponsibility lies with LaPierre, who billed the group’s ad agency, Ackerman McQueen, for more than half a million dollars over the years, leaked letters show. His purchases included a $39,000 shopping spree at a Beverly Hills store.

So?

NRA mulled mansion for chief executive: report

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/456489-nra-mulled-mansion-for-chief-executive-report

The National Rifle Association reportedly considered buying a $6 million mansion for use by CEO Wayne Lapierre.

The Washington Post reports documents show that the gun-rights group discussed buying the Dallas-area house for its CEO but talks fell through. The dealings are now under scrutiny by New York investigators as part of an ongoing investigation into the NRA’s tax-exempt status.

The NRA and its former longtime advertising firm, Ackerman McQueen are currently at odds over who planned to pay for the mansion and where the idea originated, according to The Post.

Since when is thinking a crime?

All you have is a whole lot of nothing!

The contradictory, scandal-ridden life of NRA honcho Wayne LaPierre

https://nypost.com/2019/08/09/the-contradictory-scandal-ridden-life-of-nra-honcho-wayne-lapierre/

The man largely responsible for the NRA’s uncompromising stance is its decades-long CEO, Wayne LaPierre, who has been engulfed in turmoil and legal issues as he orchestrates the group’s latest effort to push back against gun control measures.

Law enforcement authorities are investigating the NRA’s finances and the gun group has ousted top officials and traded lawsuits with the longtime marketing firm credited with helping to shape LaPierre’s and the NRA’s image.

LaPierre’s seven-figure salary, penchant for luxury clothing shopping sprees and reports that he sought to have the NRA buy him a $6 million mansion at an exclusive golf community have drawn considerable scrutiny amid allegations of rampant misspending.

Ardent gun rights supporters have turned on LaPierre in recent months, taking to Twitter and Facebook with the hashtags #changethenra and #savethe2a. Some are calling for his resignation and questioning how he can turn the tide against the push for more robust gun control measures after the Dayton, Ohio and El Paso, Texas, rampages, given all the scandals.

An American Gun:


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Wayne Lapierre's gun:


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Gun Owners of America
National Association for Gun Rights
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
The Second Amendment Foundation

Among the best alternatives.

 
Actually Davik, Taurus is made in Brazil and is a Brazilian company!

Second, the gun you fraudulently claim is Wayne LaPierre's is a collector item that would lose value if ever fired!

With every post you prove time and again you know nothing about firearms!

Why would I want to know anything about a machine built only to kill another human being?

You and your ilk revel in those kind of things: guns, knives, etc...

I prefer to expand my mind BEYOND the killing of others.

Keep living in your blood soaked fantasy world.
 

Yet, you and your party advocate the killing of all who dare contradict the Democrat party line!

Lying hypocrite!

NRA'S TAX-EXEMPT STATUS IS IN DANGER AS DONORS REVOLT 

https://www.newsweek.com/nra-carry-guard-lawsuit-new-york-insurance-dellaquila-1453832

A widening inquiry into the National Rifle Association (NRA) and multi-million dollar class-action litigation against its leadership have thrown the already beleaguered gun-rights group and its tax-exempt status into further peril.

Among the recent developments that have ratcheted up the pressure: the New York State Department of Financial Services is reportedly opening a probe into the NRA's now-defunct Carry Guard insurance product, which purported to insure gun owners when they kill another individual.

The NRA is believed to have pulled the product after inquiries by regulators in several states. Now New York's financial regulator is taking a second look, according to The New York Post.

The inquiry reportedly involves kickbacks that the NRA is alleged to have received for facilitating the purchase of insurance policies. The NRA is not licensed to provide or market insurance policies and their involvement in the development of insurance services could run afoul of state law.

A memorandum issued by the Department of Financial Services in 2006 concluded that a non-licensed entity can only provide insurance referrals "if there is no discussion of specific insurance policy terms and conditions" and if "compensation for the referral is not based upon purchase of insurance." It is unclear whether the NRA could be considered a referrer under their relationship with insurance companies

Check for Dallas Mansion Raises New Questions About NRA Plans

https://www.wsj.com/articles/check-for-dallas-mansion-raises-new-questions-about-nra-plans-11565626607

NRA payment for $70,000 is most-direct evidence showing the flow of money in an aborted deal to buy CEO Wayne LaPierre a $6 million home


In May 2018, the National Rifle Association sent a $70,000 check to an obscure Delaware entity called WBB Investments LLC, which had been incorporated a week earlier.

The check, a copy of which was obtained by The Wall Street Journal, raises new questions about the NRA’s attempts to explain a tangled transaction involving its then-outside advertising agency and an abortive plan to purchase a $6 million Dallas mansion for NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre.

The advertising agency, Ackerman McQueen, recently turned over documents to the proposed house purchase to the New York attorney general’s office, which is probing Mr. LaPierre’s dealings with the agency as part of a broad investigation of the NRA.

When the Journal broke the story last week, the NRA initially said the plan to buy the mansion was hatched by Angus McQueen, the ad agency’s late co-CEO, as a kind of safe house for Mr. LaPierre. The NRA chief had concerns about his security in the wake of the February 2018 mass shooting at a high school in Parkland, Fla.

NRA Spent Tens of Thousands on Hair and Makeup for CEO’s Wife

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nra-spent-tens-of-thousands-on-hair-and-makeup-for-ceo-wayne-lapierres-wife-susan

The NRA spent tens of thousands of dollars bringing hair and makeup artists around the country for the wife of its CEO, two sources told The Daily Beast. The expenses–which included plane flights and luxury hotel stays for the stylists–are bound to fuel an already-raging debate over what some see as a spendthrift culture in the NRA’s upper echelons. The NRA, meanwhile, called it a “non-story,” and said their ex-ad firm was responsible for any such expenses.

Susan LaPierre, the wife of longtime NRA chief Wayne LaPierre, is one of the gun organization’s many public faces, and co-chairs its Women’s Leadership Forum. She often speaks at that group’s annual gatherings for female NRA supporters. And for years now, the NRA has paid for a makeup artist and a hair stylist, both based in Nashville and plugged in to the country music scene, to do LaPierre’s hair and make-up at events around the country, according to two sources familiar with the arrangements.

So?

You had no problem with Clinton cuts!

Rival gun groups look to fill the NRA's void
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rival-gun-groups-look-fill-121307491.html

As the National Rifle Association flounders, some upstart pro-gun groups see an opportunity to become the nation’s most influential gun rights organization.

The groups say they’re attracting new members and raking in donations. They’re hiring additional staff to work on grassroots advocacy and lobbying. One is going so far as to discuss at a conference in September how to fill the void left by the NRA, which has struggled to address internal squabbles and accusations of financial mismanagement.

“There are a lot of NRA members that don’t like the infighting, don’t like all the lawsuits, don’t like some of the spending that’s been talked about in the press,” said Alan Gottlieb, founder of the pro-gun Second Amendment Foundation. “A lot of them — they want to defend gun rights, they’re not going to stop defending gun rights, they’re just looking at other places to do it.”

Several of the organizations vying to unseat the NRA as the nation’s top gun advocate are considered more aggressive advocates of the Second Amendment and include the Gun Owners of America and the National Association for Gun Rights, as well as the more moderate Second Amendment Foundation.

Their moves come as Congress and President Donald Trump are discussing new gun restrictions after mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton, as well as an upcoming presidential election for which turning out gun owners will be a top priority for Trump’s campaign.

So?

try and pay attention.

Clearly you have no idea?

Why does it surprise you to learn other groups are picking up where the NRA left off?

Are you really that clueless?

They were always there.

The other groups aren't lobbying groups for gun manufacturers.

The other groups aren't conspirators with hostile foreign governments to undermine American democracy.

Fox News host roasts NRA's LaPierre: 'An odious little grifter' who needs to go

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/457962-fox-news-host-roasts-nras-lapierre-an-odious-little-grifter-who-needs-to-go

"For years, Wayne has taken NRA members’ money to live the life of a king, but he’s not a king. He’s the head of a nonprofit trusted by millions to use its funds to secure constitutional rights,” Hilton, the host of "The Next Revolution," said during his "Swamp Watch" segment Sunday. “He’s an odious little grifter and it’s time for him to go.”

Hilton listed several high-ticket purchases LaPierre has made over the years while running the NRA, including a $5 million estate and luxury travel and rent costs incurred during trips to the Bahamas and throughout Europe that entailed private air charters and drivers.

More opinion and nothing more!

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NRA rivals see opening as turmoil grips nation’s biggest gun rights group

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nra-rivals-see-opening-as-turmoil-grips-nations-biggest-gun-rights-group

For months, the NRA has been immersed in its own problems, seeing top leaders exit and facing questions about its money management. A Fox News poll released last week indicated the organization, for the first time, has a net negative rating from voters.


FOX NEWS POLL: MOST AMERICANS BACK GUN RESTRICTIONS AFTER SHOOTINGS (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-back-gun-restrictions-after-shootings-trump-ratings-down)

Since when do polls have the power to override the Bill of Rights?

They don’t!

JW is just being a hysterical woman again is all (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)

The Supreme Court did say that Congress has the right to regulate guns.


Background checks, preventing the sale of bump stocks, extended magazines, automatic weapons, grenade launchers and 40 mm rifles are well within the parameters of acceptable regulation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/20/nyregion/sussex-county-white-supremacist.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/20/nyregion/sussex-county-white-supremacist.html)

Yet the Second Amendment says they don't!