Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani insisted Sunday there was “nothing wrong” with the president’s 2016 campaign taking information from the Russians, as House Democrats pledged stepped-up investigations into campaign misconduct and possible crimes of obstruction detailed in special counsel Robert Mueller’s report .

Giuliani called the Trump campaign’s effort to get political help from representatives of the Russian government possibly ill-advised but not illegal.

“There’s nothing wrong with taking information from Russians,” Giuliani said, referring to a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting involving Trump’s son Donald Jr., son-in-law Jared Kushner and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and a lawyer linked to Russia. The Trump campaign was seeking harmful information on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

Pressed about whether there is a something wrong about using information stolen by foreign adversaries, Giuliani said, “It depends on the stolen material.”

Mueller explicitly did not exonerate Trump in the report on the question of obstruction, citing in part Justice Department guidelines that a sitting president shouldn’t be indicted.



https://apnews.com/745f0ade428245f0a8b3634cdd871fdd

Might as well ask Russia to look over our Nuclear Missile plans, to see if they are any good or not, eh?
Maybe show Russia our military deployments and ask for suggestions?

“There’s nothing wrong with taking information from Russians,” Giuliani said, referring to a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting involving Trump’s son Donald Jr., son-in-law Jared Kushner and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and a lawyer linked to Russia. The Trump campaign was seeking harmful information on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

I call bullshit. The meeting was set up by fusion gps, a company Hillary and the DNC contracted to provide the Russian dossier dirt on Trump.

so Local is on the Kremlin payroll, too?

figures you would be a traitor.

so Local is on the Kremlin payroll, too?

figures you would be a traitor.

The traitors among us allowed Russians to buy rights to our uranium.

I'll ask this question again to either ms jw2 or ms/mr davik62. If the Russians preferred President Trump over Mr. Bill Clinton's wife. Why did they choose the one the harms their economy the most, by making the US the leading exporter of oil and natural gas, whereas Mr. Bill Clinton's wife would have contained the US production of both and thus helped their economy?

rudy giuliani: There's nothing wrong with taking information from Russians.


To: local5th and omiaqt

Explain why you apparently agree with your Dear Leader trump's so-called lawyer's preposterous claim that there's nothing wrong with a foreign government's  interfering in a US presidential election--a  hostile government at that!

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/giuliani-nothing-wrong-with-taking-russian-information.html

https://www.youtube.com/v/uJzpJBMQfy4

Proud Local comes supporting the idea that collusion and conspiracy against America is OK.  I am curious what Proud Local's IRA Operative handle is?

Trump is working with Russia to make America Safe for Russians.

Who says President I1 doesn't keep his campaign promises?  Remember his promise to, "Mightily reward", Russia for providing dirt on Hillary?  He has been rewarding Russia ever since.

Explain why you apparently agree with your Dear Leader trump's so-called lawyer's preposterous claim that there's nothing wrong with a foreign government's  interfering in a US presidential election--a  hostile government at that!


Hawk, you talking about foreign national illegals protesting against Trump or Steel, a foreign national who got Russians to provide dirt on Trump?

No, local5th. I'm talking about a hostile foreign government's interference in a US election that caused the election of an illegitimate president--your Dear Leader trump.

Hostile government? You talking about the one Obama/Hillary allowed to buy rights to our uranium?

I'm talking about a hostile foreign government's interference in a US election that caused the election of an illegitimate president

Had Russia wanted Trump to win the election the Russian dossier paid for by Hillary, the DNC, and Obama would have never happened.

Hillary caused her election loss by colluding with the DNC to steal the nomination from Bernie. You want to blame someone blame her. Russian is nothing but an excuse.

 How do you seriously just dismiss all the information on Russian interference  from Mueller and from the intelligence agencies local?

How do you seriously just dismiss all the information on Russian interference  from Mueller and from the intelligence agencies local?

Muller charged those Russians who interfered beyond the norm and it's now being handled by the legal system. Now it's time to quit beating a dead horse.

The Russians are still there local and are still active in our politics.




2020 race is hardly underway, and already candidates are being targeted with the same techniques Russia employed in the 2016 and 2018 cycles. According to Politico, which confirmed its findings with digital experts, a “sustained and ongoing” disinformation campaign has begun in earnest, targeting top Democrats including Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and Beto O’Rourke. It’s not clear whether Russia is behind this latest round of election meddling, but per Politico, “there are clear signs of a coordinated effort of undetermined size that shares similar characteristics with the computational propaganda attacks launched by online trolls at Russia’s Internet Research Agency.”

“It looks like the 2020 presidential primary is going to be the next battleground to divide and confuse Americans,” said Brett Horvath, co-founder of Guardians.ai, a tech company that aims to protect pro-democracy groups from online meddling. “As it relates to information warfare in the 2020 cycle, we’re not on the verge of it—we’re already in the third inning.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/20/2020-candidates-social-media-attack-1176018




Republicans in the House and Senate have been blocking any funding for dealing with the interference and trump continues to dismiss it just like you do  local.

In a worldwide threat assessment to the Senate Intelligence Committee, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats wrote that competitors such as Russia, China and Iran “probably already are looking to the 2020 U.S. elections as an opportunity to advance their interests.”

In his statement, he predicted that these countries "will use online influence operations to try to weaken democratic institutions, undermine U.S. alliances and partnerships and shape policy outcomes in the United States and elsewhere."

Furthermore, he said, they'll "refine their capabilities and add new tactics as they learn from each other’s experiences, suggesting the threat landscape could look very different in 2020 and future elections."

The prognosis comes roughly a month after Coats revealed Moscow attempted to interfere in last year's midterm elections, but failed to compromise the country's election systems. Tuesday’s assessment notes that “unidentified actors” attacked election infrastructure in 2018.


https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000168-9a0d-dc7b-a36e-ff0fa2050001

The Russians are still there local and are still active in our politics.

They have been there and active for decades wvit.

not like they are now local.   Our intelligence agencies agree on that point.

The difference between then and now is the internet wvit.

Using the internet they used hot point issues on both sides to create hate and discontent. There was no real impact on the elections.

Interference goes far beyond Russia. China was blind copied on Hillary emails. And even our close allies interfere. You need to look no further than Steel interjecting Russian mis-information into our election to see that.

that's true chuck.   don't you believe we should be doing something to stop the russian interference?

don't you believe we should be doing something to stop the russian interference?


Yup. We need to address interference from all foreign entities. Leading by example, better internet security, and forbidding in-country foreign national political demonstrations would be a good start.

so why do you think republicans in the House and the Senate are blocking attempts to fund our fight against election interference chuck?

there are those who say...the Republicans are desperate to hold onto power and will whore themselves to the enemies of the USA to achieve that goal.

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61KX0H8tIHL._AC_UL436_.jpg)

so why do you think republicans in the House and the Senate are blocking attempts to fund our fight against election interference chuck?

What did they specifically block wvit?

this was posted here before but since you don't seem to read here you go local -




U.S. election security steps hobbled by Congress-White House funding fight


A battle between U.S. President Donald Trump and Democrats over federal funding to help secure November’s U.S. elections stymied legislation in Congress on Wednesday, at least for now, that is aimed at thwarting Russian meddling by strengthening states’ voting procedures.

The Senate Rules Committee unexpectedly canceled a work session that was intended to advance the Secure Elections Act. That is a bipartisan bill requiring greater coordination between the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and a range of other federal and state election agencies as well as making it easier to audit voting results in the 50 states.

The fight pits Democrats and some state officials against the Trump administration and Republicans who oppose additional money flowing from Washington to the states to shore up elections.

It comes on the same day that high-ranking administration officials held a closed briefing in the U.S. Capitol for all 100 senators to detail Russian interference in American elections.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-security/u-s-election-security-steps-hobbled-by-congress-white-house-funding-fight-idUSKCN1L72FN


House GOP refuses to renew election security funding as Democrats fume over Russian interference


House Republicans on Thursday voted down a Democratic effort to increase election security spending, as Democrats accused the GOP of refusing to stand up to Russia over interference in U.S. elections.

In a vote along party lines, Republicans rejected Democrats’ motion for more funding, unmoved by Democrats’ vigorous pleas and chants of “USA! USA!” on the House floor.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/house-gop-refuses-to-renew-election-security-funding-as-democrats-fume-over-russian-meddling/2018/07/18/20761f88-8abb-11e8-8aea-86e88ae760d8_story.html?utm_term=.62ceb5af71f0

this was posted here before but since you don't seem to read here you go local -


The left claims there is little to no election fraud. So why spend the money?

And there are problems with the bill.

It imposes onerous reporting requirements on state and local election officials.

It gives a tremendous amount of discretion to the Department of Homeland Security to establish ostensibly voluntary guidelines that will become mandatory in effect.

It opens the door to control of election administration by one political party or interest group.

To: local5th and omiaqt

Re: Nothing wrong with trump camp taking Russian help

Explain why you apparently believe there's nothing wrong with a foreign government--a hostile government at that(!)--interring in a US presidential election.

Explain where I said it was okay for a foreign government--a hostile government at that(!)--interring in a US presidential election.

Also explain why the Obama admin would allow a hostile foreign government to purchase rights to our uranium.

To: local5th

Re: reply #32

As neither you nor omiaqt have yet to condemn Russian interference in the 2016, I made the logical presumption and reached the logical conclusion that you apparently agree with giuliani's preposterous claim that there was "nothing wrong with taking information from Russia."

And it comes as no real surprise to me that you would attempt to avoid the issue by interjecting an irrelevant distraction
(red herring) into the discussion: the Uranium One Deal, a trite, shopworn, debunked, right-wingnut talking point.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2017/10/27/claims-of-clinton-russia-uranium-scandal-are-a-real-empty-barrel/#2eafd2f7b559

Look at reply 24 Hawk.

It should cover the interference by both Russia and China. Hacking is illegal.

And it comes as no real surprise to me that you would attempt to avoid the issue by interjecting an irrelevant distraction
(red herring) into the discussion: the Uranium One Deal, a trite, shopworn, debunked, right-wingnut talking point.


And it comes as no real surprise to me you would miss the point.

If Russia was an enemy of the US it would be an act of treason to allow them control of our uranium.