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Title: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 11, 19, 02:56:55:AM
It’s a nightmare situation that every parent dreads: According to police, a man attempted to abduct a young child right in public. But he didn’t count on a bystander being armed and prepared.
KSAZ (http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona-news/witness-pulls-out-gun-stops-suspect-from-kidnapping-11-year-old-girl-police-say) reported that an 11-year-old girl was walking to school last week when she was assaulted by an unknown suspect.
“According to Sgt. Tommy Thompson with Phoenix police, the suspect approached the girl from behind, grabbed her arm and pulled it behind her back and put his arm over her face while she was walking to school near 19th Avenue and Bell Road on April 3,” the station said.
But an apparent good Samaritan saw the incident unfold, and jumped into action. That person, who has not been identified, knocked the attacker down before drawing a concealed handgun and ordering the would-be kidnapper to keep his hands off the student.

https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/11-year-old-girl-nearly-kidnapped-walking-school-2nd-amendment-hero-shows-even-odds/


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 11, 19, 11:25:24:AM
Democrats would gladly sacrifice a thousand American lives just to disarm one law abiding citizen!


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 11, 19, 04:00:57:PM
d2dvd!,

This what happens when Republicans have things their way.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/02/1200-children-killed-gun-violence-year-190213205836489.html


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 12, 19, 01:46:52:AM
Law abiding gun owners save a minimum of 392,500 lives annually!

Proving guns are not a public health problem but a contributor to good public health!

An average minimum of 1075 lives are saved by law abiding gun owners every day!


Fact: Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times –
        more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds.243 Of these instances, 15.7% of the people using firearms defensively
        stated that they "almost certainly" saved their lives by doing so.
Firearms are used 60 times more often to protect lives than to take lives.

243 Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Kleck and Gertz, Fall 1995
http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6853&context=jclc (http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6853&context=jclc)

Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by
criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about
300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15941-cdc-study-ordered-by-obama-contradicts-white-house-anti-gun-narrative (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15941-cdc-study-ordered-by-obama-contradicts-white-house-anti-gun-narrative)
http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#g24a (http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#g24a)


I find it very telling your source would be Islamofascist run aljazeera!


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 12, 19, 04:01:28:AM
d2dvd!,

Here's what I find very laughable: you based your response on the completely debunked findings of Kleck and Getz's  so-called study of Defensive Gun Use (DGU). LOL

http://www.armedwithreason.com/debunking-the-defensive-gun-use-myth/

And what I find even more laughable is your absurd notion that simply calling Al Jazeera an Islamofascist news source automatically refutes the content of the article it published.

Oh and by the way, speaking of what's laughable, lets see you laugh at this, d2dvd!

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/04/707685268/violence-against-women-act-gets-tangled-up-in-gun-rights-debate

 Go ahead  and laugh, d2dvd! After all, you believe common-sense gun laws are laughable. Isn't that right, d2dvd?





 



 


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 12, 19, 04:09:28:AM
Nothing has been debunked but your own sources!


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 12, 19, 11:52:43:AM
debuked2dvdebbunked

Re: reply #5

Your rhetorical fallacy: Appeal to Wishful Thinking

You're suggesting my arguments haven't debunked yours because you strongly hope they haven't.


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 12, 19, 02:05:19:PM
Your sources have been proven to be completely wrong and fraudulent in their conduct!


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 13, 19, 07:26:31:AM
Yeah...Right, d2dvd!

Sit down and shut the fuck up, lying imbecile!


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 13, 19, 03:16:17:PM
I win!

1965hawks surrenders by engaging in childish and profane name calling!


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 14, 19, 04:41:40:AM
"Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way! [sic]--d2dvd!

Here's what happens when Republicans get their way.

Shooting Gallery USA

A Georgia girl has died after four-year-old brother accidentally shot her.

 
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/us/georgia-girl-shot-by-brother/index.html

https://www.inquisitr.com/5390964/6-year-old-georgia-girl-millie-drew-kelly-killed-after-being-accidentally-shot-by-her-4-year-old-brother/


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 14, 19, 04:42:51:AM
That would have happened either way!

Democrats seek to ensure the people are defenseless when faced with violent criminals!

Why do you want the law abiding to be at the mercy of violent criminals?


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 04 14, 19, 09:42:29:PM
(http://www.smallvictoriesusa.com/images/Articles/2015/HOPE%20CLINIC%20or%20any%20abortion%20mill/cartoon.jpg)


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 15, 19, 09:16:52:PM
Democrats cherish the lives of criminals will caring not a wit for the law abiding!


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 17, 19, 01:06:58:PM
To: d2dvd! and ww11191v10mhzsq987

Re: replies #1, #3, #5, #7, #9, #11, and #13

JSYK:

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2017/06/19/CDC-study-Guns-kill-wound-7000-children-per-year/9691497882459/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/01/toddlers-have-shot-at-least-23-people-this-year/?utm_term=.d4ab4694362f

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/20/toddlers-have-shot-at-least-50-people-this-year/?utm_term=.53d29c2c70c2

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/14/people-are-getting-shot-by-toddlers-on-a-weekly-basis-this-year/?utm_term=.6849db3b8cd2

To: ww11191v10mhzsq987

Re: reply #12

It's irrelevant to this thread's topic of discussion.


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 17, 19, 05:11:22:PM
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Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 17, 19, 05:12:29:PM
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Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 17, 19, 05:14:56:PM
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Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 18, 19, 03:07:21:AM
To: d2dvd!

Re: reply #15 (graphs)

Child Firearm Deaths and Handgun Availably--debunked by several studies that show that firearms kept in the home endanger the lives of children.

Accidental Child Deaths-Ratio to Firearms --does not refute the evidence that hundreds of children are accidentally killed by firearms in the US every year.

Childhood Homicide By Assailant--irrelevant, the issue is child accidental shootings, not children murdered by an assailant.

Fatalities in the U.S. (per year)--abortion is not the leading cause of death in the US.

Injury Rate by Self-Protection Mode--irrelevant, the issue is child accidental shootings, not defensive gun use.

(And, of course, the photo of the kid is irrelevant.)


JSYK:

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-carrying/


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 18, 19, 03:20:17:AM
Nope all of your several studies have been debunked as you say!

All determinedly flawed and skewed to a predetermined outcome!

You are irrelevant!


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 18, 19, 07:21:31:AM
Give up, d2dvd! You've lost again, and you know it. Sit down and shut the fuck up!

LOL


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 18, 19, 01:36:10:PM
I post facts and scientific study results and you post debunked propaganda!


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 18, 19, 02:19:24:PM
d2dvd!: I post facts and scientific studies and you post debunked propaganda! [sic]

I beg to differ, d2dvd! Most of the "facts" you post on this message board aren't really facts at all. Truth is, the so-called facts you refer to are actually half-truths, opinions argued as fact, and outright lies.

All your several studies have been debunked as you say! [sic]

You're  confused  lying again, d2dvd! I've never conducted a study, and (of course) I've never said the studies I cite(d) have been debunked.

All determinedly flawed and skewed to a predetermined outcome! [sic] 

Evidently, you're alluding to the obviously flawed  and skewed data you are wont to post on this message board.


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: Jw2 on 04 18, 19, 02:23:11:PM
Hidden toll of Trump's drone strikes in Yemen: Nearly a third of deaths are civilians (children), not al-Qauida (https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/11/14/hidden-toll-of-us-drone-strikes-in-yemen-nearly-a-third-of-deaths-are-civilians-not-al-qaida/)


Title: Re: Eleven year old would be dead if Democrats got their way!
Post by: D2D on 04 18, 19, 02:32:35:PM
I post facts and scientific study results and you post debunked propaganda!

From your source, Jw2:
 
Quote
There is no comprehensive count of civilian deaths because of the difficulty of confirming identities and allegiances of those killed. But in an examination of drone strikes this year alone, The Associated Press found that at least 30 of the dead likely did not belong to al-Qaida.

In other words they are at best guesses by extremely biased people!

Again, I ask, why do you want Iran to win Yemen and make that nation a puppet of Iran?

Why do you want Al Qaeda to grow and thrive?

Why do you hate America so much?

Why are you posting this here?

The discussion is about Second Amendment rights not terrorism!

Why do you want us to reward Al Qaeda for its use of human shields?