year two presidencies. Lower than Carter, lower even than Reagan.

look at how high both bushes were!!  but one was defeated in his re-election bid and the other left office in disgrace with the worst approval rating since Nixon.  I guess that means if Trump is not in jail or impeached by the next election, his approval rating will be below zero. 

The righties run away from truth every time.

Higher than Obama.

Dan sure is having comprehension problems.

It's like he has gotten more and more ignorant...

Lower than Carter, lower even than Reagan.


Past presidents did not experience  threats against the electoral college in hope they would change their votes or coordinated protest before taking office. Nor did voters of past presidents experience public shaming and/or loss of friendships simply  because of who they favored in the election.

You are making an apples and oranges comparison.

All things considered Trump is doing pretty damn good.

Nope, apples to apples. Trump's disapproval numbers are all on him. He caused the disapproval, and only simpletons still approve of him. Anyone still approving of him are doing so strictly based on his feeding their fears and bigotry.

local is such a gutless trump stooge he blames his low numbers on people wanting to get rid of the useless, counter productive, archaic electoral college-  as if they are somehow related!!

The electoral college is a good thing.

It gives states equal weight/representation in the presidential elections.

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Nope.  Trump is at 50% approval.  That's higher than Carter AND Obama.

Yes they are. Egg green the notoriously biased toward the right Rasmussen had his approval rating at only 41% on Feb. 8.

According to Rasmussen poll, President Trump is at 48%

 Wed. Feb 6th. 2019 ~~ RCP Polls

General Election: Trump vs. Bloomberg (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_bloomberg-6797.html)

Rasmussen Reports (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/january_2019/bloomberg_vs_trump_and_the_winner_is)

Bloomberg 46, Trump 40 (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_bloomberg-6797.html)

Bloomberg +6

Michigan: Trump vs. Biden Detroit News/WDIV-TV Biden 53, Trump 40 Biden +13
Michigan: Trump vs. Warren Detroit News/WDIV-TV Warren 46, Trump 43 Warren +3
Michigan: Trump vs. Harris Detroit News/WDIV-TV Harris 47, Trump 42 Harris +5

Looks like Michigan doesn't like trump anymore...

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-favorite-rasmussen-poll-lowest-mark-year-1290549 (https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-favorite-rasmussen-poll-lowest-mark-year-1290549)

I think any president that allows a shutdown is going to take it in the shorts.

The Don has already started to cave on the wall, so it may drop even lower.

But then again, with more than 325 million people in this country, a poll that asks fewer than a million their opinion doesn't really gauge the state of popularity...and where they ask it makes a difference as well...

Personally, I think the Don is the biggest yutz to come down the pike in a long time.  But, given this country continues to thrive, I lay the blame for our economy, the shutdown, and lack of leadership on Congress, because they aren't doing their job either. 

Polls are only as good as the people who run them..  I like using Real Clear Politico's Poll numbers.  They combine all polls then calculate the average...

But still, the samplings are so low, even given the number of registered voters in this country...currently about 157 million...

And again, the demographics play a part...where did the polling take place?  Was it in-person, phone, interwebs? 

The variables belie even basic common sense.

I have never held much stock in polls and generally use them in a humorous sense.

But, given anything can be polled, on any day, who knows what they'll come up with next.

I am anxiously awaiting 2020 and can't wait for the crop of candidates to stab each other in the backs to try and gain the office of the presidency.

If there is enough in-fighting, the Don will win re-election.

Then what kind of massive, collective implosion will there be?  How many celebrities will move to Canada this time?  How many marches and protests of the chronically ignorant and unkempt because their candidate failed?

The news explosion will be astounding...

Can't wait !!!

My hope for 2020, is that the Voters pay closer attention to the candidates.  Think about why they are voting and don't vote for a wannabee trumpster, just because they hate the other guy...

Take any public figure and micro-analyze every aspect of their existence from the moment of their birth and cast a negative
   light on all of them 24/7/366 in every media source simultaneously again and again and see what their approval ratings become!!!

DUH!!!

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If your dems keep preaching their socialist agenda, as described by Ms. Cortez...President Trump wins in another landslide!

I am really liking Amy Klobuchar so far. I believe the senior Senator from Minnesota will be a fine President. Tough, smart, relentless in her pursuit of serving the country, fair, and not anti-second amendment. Yep, a fine candidate.

Compared to others Amy Klobuchar seems reasonable.

Biden is still the favorite.  If he decides to run.  If the number of Democratic Candidates is large,  I'm thinking Biden won't run.

Personally, I'm looking for younger blood.  I believe the old timers have worn out their welcome.  Way too early to be making prediction, even for the polls.

We need to get over the 2018 midterms, before thinking about 2020...

Jigsaw-II, younger blood is one of the reasons I favor Klobuchar. I would support a ticket with her at the top, or as VP.

my parakeet would be a better president than trump.  and he is retarded.

but seriously, what candidate would be the best commander in chief?  that is what is most important...domestic policy is the weakest part of the president's powers..he is only a third of the process...but with treaties and military decisions and all the foreign policy decisions IT IS ALMOST ALL ON THE PRESIDENT...that is why it is so scary with a dumbass clown like Trump in charge.   


you bring up some good points, for once.  but every pollster and statistician connected to polling today know all about those problems with being accurate with polling for about 50 years now.  thanks for noticing!!  sure, methodology is all important- but these pollsters stay in business by being more accurate than others, or at least as accurate, except for Rassmussen, they just rely on the dough they get from every right wing fake media source that uses them. 

but the real polling sites, like real news media, depend on accuracy and reliability in order to be listened to, for entities to pay them for their polls, for advertisers to be connected to them, with the caveat, in the case of pollsters, that they are predicting the future of any vote, but news media have it easier, they just have to report accurately what has happened. 

the polling showing hillary was going to win the popular vote was actually true, just not by as large a margin...and just by 3 states that usually go blue turning red- by 10,000 votes in Pennsylvania, in Wisconsin about 20,000 and 40,000 in Michigan, trump somehow won the dumbass archaic Electoral College despite the obvious intent and desire of most Americans. 

on 11/6, the last real clear politics average i could find, it had clinton up by 3.2%, on average of many polls. 
she actually won the popular vote by 65.9 million to Trump's 63.0 million...she won by 4.6% over Trump if they had been the only two candidates. 

the closest poll to 4.6% was 6% by NBC news...the worst was Investors Business Daily who had Trump by 2%.

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Then I suggest you cut back on the onions.


I wonder what the passengers of the Democrat clown car would do if Michelle Obama threw her jockstrap into the ring?  Would they all spill out to give her the car to herself?

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I wonder what the passengers of the Democrat clown car would do if Michelle Obama threw her jockstrap into the ring? Would they all spill out to give her the car to herself? (????  was that supposed to be a joke?  or what?)
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the jockstrap you couldn't carry, chickenshit bitch?  i think you meant panties that you could not carry, but you could wear them and really enjoy it....

i guess you are referring to the stupid fuck racist memes and right wing loony tune lies about her being a dude...are you really this stupid, diaper dan? I knew you were stupid, and a liar, and a bigot and a gutless coward, but this stupid?  seriously?

I know you don't really like women or find them attractive but look at these pics of Michelle and tell me you believe she is not a lovely lady-

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LOL!

Looks like I got another right nerve!

Yes, DLH.  It was a joke.  Michelle running for office, that is.

You exposed your shallowness when you asserted beauty is displayed on the outdide. Wrong, DLH.  True beauty is in the character of the person on the inside.  Which is why you and Michelle are two of the ugliest people on Earth.

President Donald Trump’s approval rating hit 52 percent for Feb. 11, according to a new survey.

Rasmussen Reports, which carried out the daily tracking poll, said it was Trump’s “highest level of approval since shortly after his inauguration,” which was around March 2017.

Some 47 percent of respondents disapproved with the job he’s doing.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/president-trumps-approval-rating-hits-52-percent-highest-since-january-2017_2796865.html

Rasmussen is a joke. It ALWAYS leans right!

Here are the latest polls from reputable companies.
tRump is lucky to be close to 40%...



President Trump: Job Ratings

 

President Trump: Job Ratings

		Approve	Disapprove	Approve minus
	Click poll name for details:	%	%	Disapprove
	CNN (http://pollingreport.com/djt_job2.htm#CNN)	40	55	- 15		1/30 - 2/2/19
	IBD/TIPP (http://pollingreport.com/djt_job2.htm#TIPP)	39	57	- 18		1/24 - 2/1/19
	Quinnipiac U. (http://pollingreport.com/djt_job2.htm#Quinnipiac) RV	38	57	- 19		1/25-28/19
	Monmouth U. (http://pollingreport.com/djt_job2.htm#Monmouth)	41	54	- 13		1/25-27/19
	Gallup (http://pollingreport.com/djt_job2.htm#Gallup)	37	59	- 22		1/21-27/19
	ABC/Washington Post (http://pollingreport.com/djt_job2.htm#ABC)	37	58	- 21		1/21-24/19

    http://pollingreport.com/djt_job.htm

It does the same poll, day after day, and it's higher now than it's been since shortly after inauguration -- certainly not the lowest.

Rasmussen... (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/laugh.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/laugh.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/laugh.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/laugh.gif) You are a funny guy. (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/hattip.gif)

Isn't it time for you to go hide from imagined commies?

The real scientific pollsters have him at the lowest of the last several presidents at this point in their first term.

What's funny is how very wrong you were saying Clinton was going to be president.   Remember that?   I certainly do.  Is that what science told you?

Well, Davik, I smell nothing but the foul odor of mendacity from the republican/traitors.

If you smell gas from them, you might suggest that they treat their "digestive problems," and stop blowing so much foul air from their

bloated behinds! *Not that they realize how much they stink........*

LOL!

*Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif) (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif) (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)

Polling is a science, and yes, the pollsters were within the margin of error, and beyond that, they were correct. Hillary won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes.

So, you misinterpreted the science when you said Clinton would win.  That's as good as no science at all.

When you take the same measurement the same way, day after day, and the trend shows a peak, that's pretty good science about the approval rating.  It's certainly doubtful to be at it's lowest.

Trump's approval rating among likely voters soars to his best in 23 MONTHS at 52 per cent after State of the Union address as border-wall shutdown talks intensify

• Rasmussen Reports poll as Trump at 52 per cent approval, his best showing in 23 months and a higher number than his winning edge in 2016
  
• Significant up-swing since government-shutdown low of 43 per cent
  
• New numbers were collected in the three days immediately following State of the Union address
  
• Asked what Monday's numbers mean, a senior Democratic House aide confided on background: 'I don't know yet if it's horrible, but it sure isn't good'
  
• Polling average is just 42.4 per cent, including mostly those surveys that are open to all Americans; Rasmussen polls only 'likely voters'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6691891/Trumps-approval-rating-likely-voters-soars-best-23-MONTHS-52-cent.html

It's too bad you children were deprived of statistics classes in school. If you had taken the class, and paid attention, maybe you wouldn't look so ignorant.

If you had taken a civics class, or perhaps a world history class, maybe you would understand what Communism is. So many of you on the right, and maybe on the left as well, can't explain the difference between Communism and Socialism. There are some on the left that also don't really know the difference. Trump was right in his SOTU speech when he said we will never be a Socialist country. He really hit a chord with his low intelligence supporters. Nobody has ever suggested we would be. At least nobody on the left. It is a fool who thinks that Socialism is a goal.

Evidently, you haven't been listening to what Sanders and Cortez wants.  You can call it what you want, but it's not individual liberty and free market economics.

Rasmussen has the highest accuracy rating.  That's why libs hate it.