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Title: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christians
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 25, 18, 12:38:46:PM
Attention liberals and progressives: You’re all going to hell.

Such is the message from evangelist Franklin Graham, who had a Twitter meltdown not long after progressive Wisconsin Supreme Court candidate Rebecca Dallet won a 10-year term on the state’s highest court as part of a special election held earlier this week.

Wisconsin GOP Governor Scott Walker had this to say after the results of the special election:

“Big government special interests flooded Wisconsin with distorted facts & misinformation. Next, they’ll target me and work to undo our bold reforms. We need to keep moving #WIForward & make sure a #BlueWave of outside special interest money doesn’t take us backward.”

Graham sounded even more frantic (and deluded) with his comments on the special election in Wisconsin:

WI just lost a seat in its state Supreme Court to a progressive judge. In my opinion, if Christians had come out to vote, this seat wouldn't have been lost. It's not the time to be silent—it's time to make positive change for our children & grandchildren.

Christians should be aware of candidates who call themselves progressive. Progressive is generally just a code word for someone who leans toward socialism, who does not believe in God, & who will likely vote against Godly principles that are so important to our nation.


So now Franklin Graham is the official arbiter of what constitutes Christian and non-Christian. Does have have an official certificate from God granting him the divine right to judge others based solely on their political affiliation?


https://bluestatedaily.com/franklin-graham-declares-liberals-and-progressives-arent-christians/?utm_source=BSD&utm_medium=Content&utm_campaign=swshares


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: Oscar_LaVista on 04 25, 18, 12:53:28:PM
what the hell does that old queen know? 


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: zsq987 on 04 25, 18, 01:20:56:PM
Normal People consider Liberals and Progressives as A-HOLES!!!!

(http://newsmachete.com/photos/liberals.jpg)


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 25, 18, 01:41:59:PM
you are far from "normal people" zsq.   you and your bigotry are pretty abnormal for a real american.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 01:43:05:PM
Christians should be aware of candidates who call themselves progressive. Progressive is generally just a code word for someone who leans toward socialism, who does not believe in God, & who will likely vote against Godly principles that are so important to our nation.

Sounds like he's talking about you, wvit.  Isn't he correct?  You're a progressive and you are not Christian.  You don't believe in God.  You lean towards socialism.  Sounds like Graham has you pegged.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: darkflower on 04 25, 18, 02:52:56:PM
Jesus was not a christian either. And he was a liberal progressive. SO maybe he has a point?  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/wink.gif)


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 25, 18, 03:01:09:PM
anchoragedan: Sounds like Graham has you pegged.

No, anchoragedan. Franklin Graham sounds like exactly what he is: a Christian Nationalist ass hole.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: August West on 04 25, 18, 03:02:57:PM
Thanks to Graham and co. there are no sins anymore. Anything goes...lying....greed.....whoring...etc.
  http://doonesbury.washingtonpost.com/strip/archive/2018/04/22


Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it.
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 03:55:31:PM
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Jesus was not a christian either.

That's like saying God is an atheist.

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And he was a liberal progressive

A liberal progressive advocates a powerful central government which seeks to minimize the importance and influence of the individual.  To call Jesus that is an attack on his character.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 03:57:32:PM
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No, anchoragedan.

No, hawks?

Wvit is not an atheist?  Wvit does not lean towards socialism?  Please explain how I was wrong about wvit.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 25, 18, 04:03:12:PM
I don't believe in any gods dan so if that makes me an atheist then that's fine.   

I don't lean towards socialism anymore than our country and society already is socialist though.   We pool money for police, fire protection, defense, etc.   Isn't that a socialistic concept dan?


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 25, 18, 04:06:19:PM
The socialist portions of our society operate according to democratic principles of access and distribution, providing services to all regardless of one’s ability to pay.

Does that play against what you believe dan?


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: chuck_curtis on 04 25, 18, 04:09:34:PM
They are not Americans, for sure.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 04:09:57:PM
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I don't believe in any gods

So Hawks was wrong.  I was correct about your lack of belief in God.

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I don't lean towards socialism

Do you advocate for government regulation?  Do you support restrictions on private businesses and individuals for the common good?

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We pool money for police, fire protection, defense, etc.   Isn't that a socialistic concept dan?

No.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: wvit1001 on 04 25, 18, 04:12:54:PM
government regulations for the protection of society aren't socialism dan.

socialism is the state's control of the means of production and distribution.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 25, 18, 04:23:11:PM
I didn't realize you were talking about atheism, anchoragedan. It's hard to really understand what someone is trying to say when they post only one sentence rather than paragraphs. But it's understandable why you employ that tactic here. It's because you really have nothing to say so you simply post meaningless, choppy, sentence that you evidently believe are witty retorts, but as I pointed out long ago, they are actually quite vapid, to say the least, and, to tell the truth, rather stupid.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: lluke47 on 04 25, 18, 04:32:26:PM
As your post and reply's skanks 
You have nothing of value, no ideas or solutions, all demwits like you have is hate for your betters, you're pathetic little nothings


Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 04:37:23:PM
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I didn't realize you were talking about atheism, anchoragedan.

I wasn't.  Graham was.

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as I pointed out long ago, they are actually quite vapid

Nope.

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rather stupid.

Nope.

But I appreciate you demonizing me rather than addressing the substance.  It tells me what kind of man you are.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 25, 18, 04:47:46:PM
anchoragedan,

Franklin Graham is an ass hole.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/derek-penwell/franklin-graham-is-the-wo_b_5392373.html (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/derek-penwell/franklin-graham-is-the-wo_b_5392373.html)


Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 06:20:43:PM
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anchoragedan,

Franklin Graham is an ass hole.

No he isn't.  He is an honest, decent, loving, caring, charitable and giving man.  Try doing some research.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 25, 18, 06:36:18:PM
No, anchoragedan. Besides being the quintessential false prophet (like his father). Franklin is also an Islamophobic hate monger.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/hey-franklin-graham-muslims-already-do-love-jesus


Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 06:41:50:PM
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No, anchoragedan.

Yes Hawks, he is a good man.

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the quintessential false prophet (like his father).

Nope.

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Franklin is also an Islamophobic hate monger.

Nope.  He respects the Muslim faith.  He fosters no hate.  He harbors no hate.  You have been misinformed.  Next time do some research.  I can't stand when good people are falsely maligned.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: 1965hawks on 04 25, 18, 06:50:23:PM
No, anchoragedan. Franklin Graham has proven beyond doubt  that he respects neither Muslims nor Islam.


,www.newsobserver.com/news/local/counties/durham-county/article10222892.html

https://www.cnn.com/2015/01/15/us/duke-call-to-prayer/index.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/hey-franklin-graham-muslims-already-do-love-jesus

 


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: shiloh_3 on 04 25, 18, 06:50:54:PM
Christianity is based on the word of men, not spirits in the sky.  There's not one word in the bible put there by a god or anything like a god. Christians have found a way to suspend obvious reality in order to accept the unacceptable.  Been there, done that, but then I grew up and lost interest in childish fairy tales.. I guess for many,  Santa Claus was all the loss they could take.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 25, 18, 06:51:47:PM
ROTFL!!!!

WHO isn't a Christian and going to Hell, Franklin??

YOU are the "EPITOME" of *Pot Calling Kettle Black."

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

Dismissed...,

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Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: Oscar_LaVista on 04 25, 18, 06:55:25:PM
According to what Jesus said, it is going to be a whole lot easier for a came to pass through the eye of a needle than for this bigoted fake Christian Franklin "Scam Artist" Graham to get into Heaven. 

from the local newspaper about this rich ass (net worth about 8 million dollars) fake Christian bigot:

Graham’s pay is “definitely an outlier for the nonprofit sector,” said Sandra Miniutti, Charity Navigator’s chief financial officer.

“When you start getting compensation above a half million dollars,” she said, “it’s probably not appropriate for the nonprofit sector.”

Plus, leaders of larger international relief groups make less than Graham. Food for the Poor, which has a budget more than twice as large as Samaritan’s Purse, provided CEO Robin Mahfood a 2013 compensation package that was about $200,000 lower than what Graham received from Samaritan’s Purse alone.

At Samaritan’s Purse, Graham was the highest-paid executive. The second – Phyllis Payne, a vice president – made about $364,000 in total compensation. Graham made $622,252.

Certainly, a lot of corporate CEOs make much more. But many philanthropy experts say it’s unfair to compare salaries in nonprofit organizations with those in the for-profit world. That’s because nonprofits get substantial tax breaks – a form of public subsidy. In exchange, they’re expected to keep salaries lower.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/living/religion/article30505932.html


Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 06:56:07:PM
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No, anchoragedan. Franklin Graham has proven beyond doubt  that he respects neither Muslims nor Islam.

You have been misinformed, Hawks.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 06:57:20:PM
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WHO isn't a Christian and going to Hell, Franklin??

Why are you asking him?  He made no such judgments.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 25, 18, 06:59:09:PM
Nope, dan, Hawks has it quite correct.

Franklin Graham is a bigoted, judgemental,  hypocritical asshole..


Dismissed.....,


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Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 07:03:09:PM
Here's the problem with you libs - you keep getting your information from liberal opinion writers who are telling you what to think.  You don't get the unvarnished news and make up your own minds.

If Salon or Huffington Post takes has an opinion on something them you adopt that same position like good little lemmings.  Why don't you try thinking for yourselves for a change?  Why don't you read news stories that are not couched in opinion editorials?

Try reading just Graham's statements and not the liberal commentary about it.  Then make up your own mind.

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Nope, dan, Hawks has it quite correct.

Why?  Explain in your own words.

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Franklin Graham is a bigoted, judgemental,  hypocritical asshole.

Why?  Explain in your own words.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 07:04:50:PM
Before you libs go trashing someone, try looking at their side of the story and then make up your own mind.  Don't let pundits tell you what to think.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 25, 18, 07:06:38:PM
I have been acquainted somewhat with Franklin and his family for years in hearing them spout off their bullshit for all to hear. He's a con

man....  And like a con man will, his own words and deeds have shown him up as the skunk he is...

You know what the problem with you republican/traitors is, dan?

You are so stupid as to be led by the nose by a con man of the likes of Franklin Graham.....

Dismissed..,

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Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 07:12:24:PM
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You know what the problem with you republican is, dan?

We're too patriotic?  Too decent?  Too compassionate?

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You are so stupid

Ohhhhhhhhh.  Yeah, I was going to say that next.  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)

Well until you can show me what was so wrong with what Graham said, I will continue to hold my opinion of him based on my own research.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: Oscar_LaVista on 04 25, 18, 07:48:48:PM
Graham is a very wealthy, very bigoted, very ignorant, very fake Christian.  Nothing more.  Here is a sample of what a stupid, dimwitted clown he is, in his own words-

There’s reason to fear what’s happening in America, too: “We’re in a sick world,” he said, “very sick.” Christians “have been targeted by the gay-lesbian groups, purposefully, to put them out of business,” he said, and “we are exposed to the gay lifestyle [through] television, music, school.” He believes that organizations like the Boy Scouts “have lost it,” he told me, because they have opened up their membership to LGBT kids and allow gay men to lead troops. “It’s not an organization that’s fit to exist.” He especially worries about the influence of gay troop leaders. “Gay couples cannot have children,” he said. “All they can do is recruit your child. … There’s going to be a lawsuit one day, where a child will be molested, and will have been taken advantage of … I hope the directors are going to be held accountable.”

There was more. He bemoaned political intolerance: “The hatred, especially on the left, is incredible,” he said. “Their hearts are filled with hate.” And he described his objections to the way he believes Islam is practiced in the United States, mentioning honor killings—violence against women who shame their families—and “the mutilation of a young woman’s sexual areas so that sex is painful for them, and therefore they supposedly will be faithful to their husbands because of pain,” as he described it. “That happens a lot.” (So-called honor killings are difficult to define and track. The prevalence of female genital mutilation is also challenging to document, although evidence suggests it may be limited to specific ethnic or nationality-based communities. Authorities recently brought charges in the first case of female genital mutilation in the U.S. to be prosecuted under a federal statute specifically barring the practice.)

As I sat waiting for our interview, Graham told a reporter from the evangelical magazine World that the persecution Christians face in the U.S. is “maybe not having your head cut off,” which is what happens to religious minorities in the Middle East. But “there’s not too big of a difference here.”

Graham takes comfort in Trump’s election. “He did everything wrong, politically,” Graham told me. “He offended gays. He offended women. He offended the military. He offended black people. He offended the Hispanic people. He offended everybody! And he became president of the United States. Only God could do that.” Now, there’s “no question” that God is supporting Trump, Graham said. “No president in my lifetime—I’m 64 years old—can I remember … speaking about God as much as Donald Trump does.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/franklin-graham/527013/


as counterpoint, here are passages from the Bible that are just as backward and anti-Christian as the shit he claims all muslims believe and practice, which is as big a lie as saying most Christians follow this hateful bullshit found in the Bible-

Don't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't cut your hair nor shave. (Leviticus 19:27)

Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9)


Mark 10:11-12 states:
Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.


Exodus 32:26-28

25 And when Moses saw that the people were naked (for Aaron had made them naked unto their shame among their enemies),

26 then Moses stood in the gate of the camp and said, “Who is on the Lord’S side? Let him come unto me.” And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.

27 And he said unto them, “Thus saith the Lord
 God of Israel: ‘Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out
from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother,
and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.’”

Deuteronomy 17:
2 If there be found among  you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or  woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God,  in transgressing his covenant,
3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun,  or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed  that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 07:51:43:PM
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Graham is a very very bigoted, very ignorant, very fake Christian.

Nope.  You are wrong.

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Here is a sample of what ...he is, in his own words-

I see nothing wrong there.  Pick out a quote and explain what you find so bigoted about it.  Or are you continuing to define "bigot" as one who disagrees with liberals?


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 25, 18, 07:58:46:PM
dan.

The old adage about con men loving brainless morons like yourself must be true...

"There's a sucker born every minute."    *P.T. Barnum*

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Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: Oscar_LaVista on 04 25, 18, 08:08:04:PM
Nope.  You are wrong.

I see nothing wrong there. Pick out a quote and explain what you find so bigoted about it. Or are you continuing to define "bigot" as one who disagrees with liberals?

he is a liar, for one.  and he says gay people are trying to put Christians out of business!!  what does that even mean? does he consider Christianity a "Business?" if so, that explains him having 8 million bucks he has scammed off his followers, and getting over 600 grand a year to run two small charities, compared to others whose executives get far less.  most pedophiles are straight.  even an ignorant bigot like Graham should know that.  he lied about muslims, generally, practicing that old timey abusive muslim shit any more than most people who call themselves christians kill their disobedient children or slaughter those who work on the Sabbath, or try to heal people by handling snakes.  and he is such a weird ass fool he claims, without any hint of satire, that Trump is such a piece of shit who had no business being president, but, in his words,

“He offended gays. He offended women. He offended the military. He offended black people. He offended the Hispanic people. He offended everybody! And he became president of the United States.."


and then he goes on to explain only God could elect somebody this goddamn awful and bigoted!!  Imagine that is how you judge how God judges- if you are a stupid sexist, racist, bigoted, asshole who also trashes the military of this country, and you still get elected, that means God is on your side!! 


And here is his main reason for wanting to have his head so far up Trump's ass. again in his own words-


“No president in my lifetime—I’m 64 years old—can I remember … speaking about God as much as Donald Trump does.”


Just speaking about God, not actually being a good guy or acting like a Christian- just talking about God a lot....this guy is a moron. 



Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 08:10:49:PM
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he is a liar, for one.  and he says gay people are trying to put Christians out of business

No, he is correct on that one.  What else you got?


Title: Re: Franklin Graham nails it
Post by: Dan on 04 25, 18, 08:11:42:PM
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dan.

The old adage about con men loving brainless morons like myself must be true...

Yep.


Title: Re: Franklin Graham Declares Liberals And Progressives Aren’t Christia
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 25, 18, 08:38:20:PM
Nice try at deflection, dan... But..,

You've been knocked down....

Your argument is pure bullshit and everyone knows it...

ROTFLMAO!

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