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Title: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: wvit1001 on 03 13, 18, 04:11:42:PM
In the series of high-level personnel changes the White House announced this morning, the most controversial could wind up being the elevation of CIA Deputy Director Gina Haspel to succeed Secretary of State-designee Mike Pompeo as America’s spy chief. A career CIA employee (mostly undercover), Haspel is best known publicly for her role in directing the first and most notorious of the agency’s “black site” interrogation centers in the years after 9/11. Her unsavory background was revealed when she was appointed as Pompeo’s deputy last year, most notably by Dexter Filkins at The New Yorker:

From 2003 to 2005, Gina Haspel was a senior official overseeing a top-secret C.I.A. program that subjected dozens of suspected terrorists to savage interrogations, which included depriving them of sleep, squeezing them into coffins, and forcing water down their throats. In 2002, Haspel was among the C.I.A. officers present at the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, an Al Qaeda suspect who was tortured so brutally that at one point he appeared to be dead. ….

Haspel, a career C.I.A. employee, took part in another of the agency’s darkest moments: the destruction, in 2005, of video tapes of the interrogation of Zubaydah and a second suspect, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, at whose torture she was present, three years before.



http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/trumps-choice-to-lead-cia-oversaw-illegal-torture-program.html


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: wvit1001 on 03 13, 18, 04:12:49:PM
President Obama closed the black sites in 2009. In 2013, when then-CIA Director John Brennan sought to promote Haspel into the position of directing all of the agency’s covert operations, Senator Diane Feinstein objected and blocked the move, citing her involvement in the illegal torture program. There were more protests from Senate Democrats when Haspel was made Pompeo’s deputy, but that position does not require Senate confirmation or any hearings, so they soon subsided.


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: Local5th on 03 13, 18, 04:30:41:PM
Sounds like a good choice to me.


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: wvit1001 on 03 13, 18, 04:37:15:PM
You support illegally torturing people?


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: Truman62 on 03 13, 18, 04:49:24:PM
Pompeo is an Islamaphobe who wants war with Islam.


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: Local5th on 03 13, 18, 04:51:05:PM
No.

That was years ago. And people change.


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: D2D on 03 13, 18, 05:21:18:PM
Wvit feels so sad for the terrorists who were made uncomfortable, but has no feelings or compassion for their victims!

Why is it Democrats only care about the health and safety of criminals?


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: wvit1001 on 03 13, 18, 05:22:27:PM
what about illegally torturing people is it that you support d2?


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: Oscar_LaVista on 03 13, 18, 05:24:00:PM
Trump loves torture and killing the wives and kids of suspected terrorists-  he said so-  Trump's chickenshit immoral statements saying so- (ever notice how those who have never been in combat or faced being tortured by the enemy because of bone spurs are so turned on by the thought of torture and do not get how immoral it is and how ineffective?)

Trump: "You Bet Your Ass" I'd Approve Waterboarding, "If It Doesn't ...
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Nov 24, 2015 - "They build these iron cages, and they'll put 20 people in them and they drop them in the ocean for 15 minutes and pull them up 15 minutes later." "Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would,"Trump said. "And I would approve more than that. Don't kid yourself, folks. It works, okay? It works.

Donald Trump on waterboarding: 'If it doesn't work, they deserve it ...
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Nov 23, 2015 - "Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would — in a heartbeat," Trump said to loud cheers during a rally at a convention center here Monday night that attracted thousands. "And I would approve more than that. Don't kid yourself, folks. It works, okay? It works. Only a stupid person would say it ...


and as far as becoming full on nazis and take out families of suspected terrorists and terrorists, he told the Fox Morning Zoo Crew you had to do it, and they smiled like good little nazis- 

time.com › Politics › White House
Jan 31, 2017 - As a presidential candidate, Trump promised to “get tough” on terror groups. In December 2015, Trump told Fox News that the families of terrorists must be targeted. “The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families,” he ...

Donald 'Kill Their Families' Trump Played Into al Qaeda's Hands
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Jan 31, 2017 - In 2015, Donald Trump said the U.S. should kill terrorists' family members. On Saturday, one such 8-year-old ... "The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families,” Trump declared on Dec. 2, 2015. “They care about their ...


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: D2D on 03 13, 18, 05:28:29:PM
Why is it Democrats only care about the health and safety of criminals?


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: Oscar_LaVista on 03 13, 18, 05:31:10:PM
why do you lie so goddamn much? are you retarded?  you never add a goddamn thing to any discussion.  how old are you?  do you really think even a majority of republicans favor killing the wives and children of suspected terrorists in order to "make them talk?"  come on.  just shut the hell up.  do everybody a favor. 


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: wvit1001 on 03 13, 18, 05:33:39:PM
d2's old and lonely.  it's kinda sad in a way.


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: seahooker on 03 13, 18, 05:40:13:PM
she received the backing of President Obama's CIA director. She also received the Presidential Rank Award, the highest a federal employee can get, during President Obama's Administration!


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: Oscar_LaVista on 03 13, 18, 05:47:04:PM
president obama did not allow torture, did not allow the practice of secret renditioning, or the extradition of prisoners in our custody that allowed torture.  He signed an executive order mandating those changes his second day in office.  If she followed those guidelines, unlike the torture she approved when Bush was president, then I guess maybe there if hope for her, but I doubt it.  Anyone who condones torture is an immoral piece of shit, especially when we know for a fact you get more real info from traditional interrogations techniques. 


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: wvit1001 on 03 13, 18, 05:52:47:PM
President Obama closed the black sites in 2009. In 2013, when then-CIA Director John Brennan sought to promote Haspel into the position of directing all of the agency’s covert operations, Senator Diane Feinstein objected and blocked the move, citing her involvement in the illegal torture program. There were more protests from Senate Democrats when Haspel was made Pompeo’s deputy, but that position does not require Senate confirmation or any hearings, so they soon subsided.

Since the director gig does require confirmation, inquiring minds in the Senate will most definitely want to know if Haspel’s apotheosis is in any way connected with the president’s frequently expressed interest in bringing back torture as an interrogation technique. Haspel herself will probably stick to the line that she was just following orders and that the agency is now operating within the law. But Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat of Oregon, is already saying that her torturous background makes her “unsuitable to serve as CIA director.” And civil liberties groups are even more determined to oppose her:

“Gina Haspel was a central figure in one of the most illegal and shameful chapters in modern American history. She was up to her eyeballs in torture: both in running a secret torture prison in Thailand, and carrying out an order to cover up torture crimes by destroying videotapes,” said Christopher Andrews, the deputy director of the ACLU’s Washington office


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: seahooker on 03 13, 18, 05:56:10:PM
she received the backing of President Obama's CIA director. She also received the Presidential Rank Award, the highest a federal employee can get, during President Obama's Administration! Do I need to keep repeating this?


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: chuck_curtis on 03 13, 18, 06:44:53:PM
Known misogynist and woman hater Donald Trump appoints a woman to head up the CIA for the first time in history.


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: wvit1001 on 03 13, 18, 06:48:55:PM
The Presidential Rank Awards program is an individual award program granted by the United States Government to career Senior Executive Service (SES) members and Senior Career Employees within the OPM-allocated Senior-Level (SL) or Scientific-Professional (ST) community. The awards have been given annually by the President of the United States since the establishment of the Senior Executive Service in 1978[1] except for a brief period of suspension from 2013 to 2014. The Presidential Rank Award honors high-performing senior career employees for "sustained extraordinary accomplishment." Executives from across Government are nominated by their agency heads, evaluated by citizen panels, and designated by the President. Winners of these awards are deemed to be strong leaders, professionals, or scientists who achieve results and consistently demonstrate strength, integrity, industry, and a relentless commitment to excellence in public service.[2]


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: wvit1001 on 03 13, 18, 07:03:33:PM
Feinstein told reporters on Tuesday that Haspel has asked to speak with her, and that she has a lot of questions for the new appointee.

"I think, hopefully, the entire organization learned something from the so-called enhanced interrogation program," Feinstein told reporters.

"Since my concerns were raised over the torture situation, I have met with her extensively. Talked with her. She has been, I believe, a good deputy director. She seems to have the confidence of the agency, which is good," she later said


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: stretch351c on 03 13, 18, 07:47:53:PM
You have to remember, the ideology of today's Left in this country really isn't all that different from Islamic terrorists. The fact that the Left is losing what little minds they have left over this highly qualified person is proof.


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: Jw2 on 03 13, 18, 07:48:55:PM
figures.  Trump's presidency has been one long torture session.


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: D2D on 03 14, 18, 05:27:59:AM
Why is it Democrats only care about the health and safety of criminals?


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: Oscar_LaVista on 03 14, 18, 05:50:29:AM
Why is it Democrats only care about the health and safety of criminals?

another stupid shit comment from a senseless retarded parrot. 


Title: Re: Trump’s Choice to Lead CIA Oversaw Illegal Torture Program
Post by: D2D on 03 14, 18, 05:52:19:AM
You will notice Oscar utters not a word of sympathy for the victims of terrorism!

In fact I have no doubt he sees 9/11 as our chickens coming home to roost!