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Title: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: chuck_curtis on 10 22, 17, 10:04:33:PM
Though he may not be the most likeable guy, America likes what he is doing.

As of Thursday, Trump’s job approval rating, according to Real Clear Politics, stood at 41 percent, with 53 percent of the country saying it disapproved of the president. When it comes to specific policy decisions, though, Trump’s approval numbers suddenly improved. Gallup found last week that 51 percent of Americans approved of how Trump was handling the economy, more than 10 percentage points higher than his overall approval rating.

When it comes to the economy, Trump’s numbers are better than Obama’s (46%), Reagan’s (44%) and Clinton’s (39%) at the same points in their presidencies, notes Ron Faucheux of Clarus Research. Voters also support the president’s handling of other domestic issues. A CNN poll released on Wednesday showed that 64 percent agreed with his handling of the recent hurricanes. These results show that Trump’s policies are trending higher than his personality by between 5 and 20 points.

http://www.insidesources.com/trumps-poll-numbers-upside-down-what-does-that-mean-for-the-gop/ (http://www.insidesources.com/trumps-poll-numbers-upside-down-what-does-that-mean-for-the-gop/)

Which would tend to explain all the ad hominin attacks, without substance.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: darkflower on 10 22, 17, 10:09:03:PM
What has he done regarding the economy, either major or minor? Nothing comes to mind.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: darkflower on 10 22, 17, 10:10:00:PM
And many attacks are over his tweets, which he should have stopped when taking office.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: chuck_curtis on 10 22, 17, 10:14:31:PM
Without uselessly explaining the details from my one mind, suffice it to say that most Americans apparently think he is handling the economy well, for whatever reasons.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: omiaqt on 10 22, 17, 11:54:59:PM
If another election were held on Tuesday, Donald J Trump would win in another landslide.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: gwboolean on 10 23, 17, 12:33:41:AM
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If another election were held on Tuesday, Donald J Trump would win in another landslide.

Another landslide?  He lost the election and was only able to scrape the electoral college because of Russian help, the TrEA$on/NSSA vote fixing and by disenfranchising millions of Americans.  Benedict Omi sure has a malleable memory.

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Without uselessly explaining the details from my one mind, suffice it to say that most Americans apparently think he is handling the economy well, for whatever reasons

Who are these MOST Americans you refer to Benedict Chuckles.  Even counting you WRBS turds, your Elite Establishment masters and the several million Russian voters for Fake "President" Lyin Lump, you still can't come up with more than 35%, which just happens to be where his approval rating sits most of the time.  Most Americans........ you have an interesting idea of Most Americans Benedict Chuckles. But of course we all know that to you WRBS turds only White, racist, and Soviets can be Americans.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: darkflower on 10 23, 17, 12:51:40:AM
He won only because the establishment ran another establishment loser like clinton. He won because they lost. And gripe about the e.c. all you like, but had there been no e.c. then the campaigns would have been different too and clinton still would have lost because she sucked.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: D2D on 10 23, 17, 01:01:14:AM
President Trump won because the American people want their freedom back along with rule of law!

They want secure borders, an end to the war on jobs and an end to the America dead last policies of the Democrats!


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: gwboolean on 10 23, 17, 02:02:45:AM
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President Trump won because the American people want their freedom back along with rule of law!

Apparently not Benedict Diddly, since he did not win and lost by over 3 million votes.  And we have all seen how he has no respect for rule of law or freedom.

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They want secure borders, an end to the war on jobs and an end to the America dead last policies of the Democrats!

We already had secure borders Benedict Diddly.  And most Americans did not care about what you call secure borders.  He Benedict Diddly, how is he doing ending that war?  Where are all of those jobs?


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 23, 17, 06:39:45:AM
He won because of Russian influence and gerrymandering.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: Truman62 on 10 23, 17, 07:49:54:AM
President Trump won because the American people want their freedom back along with rule of law!



But to be a Police State you have to take away freedom!
To ensure law and order, you have to take away freedom.
Freedom demands that there be no law and order.

Your statement is totally contradictory.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: dont-blameme on 10 23, 17, 09:23:05:AM
davikfrump62 says    But to be a Police State you have to take away freedom!
To ensure law and order, you have to take away freedom.
Freedom demands that there be no law and order.

Your statement is totally laced with stupid again.

Without law and oder there is no freedom....Idiot!


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: Local5th on 10 23, 17, 09:33:00:AM
He won because of Russian influence and gerrymandering.


I don't believe that because the most damaging information to come out of Russia was against Trump.


Hillary lost because of her treatment of Bernie and his supporters.









Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 23, 17, 12:35:15:PM
http://billmoyers.com/story/supreme-court-gerrymandering-minority-rule/

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/state/pa-gerrymandering-suit-stay-pending-whitford-scotus-case-20171019.html

http://www.npr.org/2017/10/03/555425809/supreme-court-set-to-consider-partisan-gerrymandering

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/dec/01/russia-and-its-influence-presidential-election/

http://time.com/4783932/inside-russia-social-media-war-america/

Many more articles available, but they won't change a mind that's already set in stone.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: chuck_curtis on 10 23, 17, 12:37:33:PM
Or a mind that has read many other articles, not preselected to established a desired excuse.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 23, 17, 12:38:32:PM
I suspect the former.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 23, 17, 12:49:54:PM
His overall job approval rating is pretty much unchanged, in the mid 30's.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

This one is especially telling. It doesn't mean they will turn Blue, but it could mean they are going to stay home on election day.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-popularity-has-dipped-most-in-red-states/


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 24, 17, 07:20:45:AM
Golly Gee Whiz, when confronted with facts, the righties go silent.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: chuck_curtis on 10 24, 17, 08:33:58:AM
Yeah, we heard all the stuff about how Clinton was sure to win the election.  And then we saw how you lost recent heavily moneyed and lobbied elections since then.  Nothing has changed.  You are wrong, again.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: Truman62 on 10 24, 17, 09:12:23:AM
When you get 3 million more votes than your opponent, the LOGICAL assumption is that you will win!

Does YOUR logic work different, Chick?


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 24, 17, 10:07:17:AM
Logic?? You do know you are addressing a right winger, right? You do know that logic is an unfamiliar concept to them, right?


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: Truman62 on 10 24, 17, 10:19:12:AM
I did ask Chuck how his logic worked...

I doubt Chuck can explain it, but we'll see.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: chuck_curtis on 10 24, 17, 11:05:43:AM
Name calling and ad hominem is not an argument.   The fact is, Americans are beating back and moving away from authoritarian, collectivist views and policies, here and around the world.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 24, 17, 12:03:09:PM
Here is a summary of every one of Chuck's Post... ever, yet he claims name calling and ad hominem are not an argument. How strange is that?

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Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: Jw2 on 10 24, 17, 12:10:40:PM
Trump's sheer presence does not qualify as doing something for the economy.

Can't see that Trump or the Republican controlled Congress have passed any legislation what-so-ever regarding any economic developement.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 24, 17, 12:22:18:PM
Certainly not a single thing that favors the middle class or poor. Quite the opposite, everything they propose takes from the middle and bottom, to contribute to a tax break for the 1%.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: chuck_curtis on 10 24, 17, 12:26:27:PM
You're going to have to dispose of those tired, worn out fake stereotypes about the collectivits being for the working stiff.   They never were true, not then and certainly not now.  You were fed a line a fake reality that is now apparent to everyone.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wxzyw on 10 24, 17, 12:28:28:PM


Trump retracted 0bama's Anti-America's EO regs........... Trump changed the atmosphere and playing field from socialism to capitalism.

Bravo Trump!  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)



Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 24, 17, 12:46:16:PM
You're going to have to dispose of those tired, worn out fake stereotypes about the collectivits being for the working stiff.   They never were true, not then and certainly not now.  You were fed a line a fake reality that is now apparent to everyone.

That you consider the GOP to not be collectivists is humorous indeed.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 24, 17, 12:47:49:PM


Trump retracted 0bama's Anti-America's EO regs........... Trump changed the atmosphere and playing field from socialism to capitalism.

Bravo Trump!  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)



The progress Trump reverses with an EO can be reinstated in 2021 with another swipe of the pen.


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wxzyw on 10 24, 17, 01:36:13:PM

The progress Trump reverses with an EO can be reinstated in 2021 with another swipe of the pen.


So, wmd-bs admits Socialism and American stagnation is great in his eyes!



Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 24, 17, 01:52:43:PM
I admit Trump is a regressive moron. Are you smart enough and man enough to make the same admission?


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: D2D on 10 24, 17, 04:16:17:PM
Bs says increasing individual freedom and job opportunities is anti-progress!

Further proof Democrats should never be allowed power ever again!

Democrats love progressing toward totalitarianism!


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: wmdn_bs on 10 24, 17, 05:00:24:PM
D2D is a bald faced liar! Oh well, why would he change now?


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: sine-qua-non on 10 24, 17, 05:07:25:PM
Why don’t you convince us that D2D is a liar W..BS ?

Calling names as you do won’t do, for you (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/wink.gif)


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: sine-qua-non on 10 24, 17, 05:57:29:PM
LOL!  See?  I knew you couldn’t

Never fails (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


Title: Re: Say what you will about DJ
Post by: D2D on 10 24, 17, 09:07:51:PM
 
D2D is a bald faced liar! Oh well, why would he change now?
Yet you cannot say why!

Why is that?