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Title: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: dallas795 on 08 17, 10, 10:40:11:AM
Casualties in Iraq
The Human Cost of Occupation
Edited by Margaret Griffis :: Contact (http://antiwar.com/casualties/contact.php)
American Military Casualties in Iraq
Date
Total
In Combat
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03):44153493
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03) (the list (http://antiwar.com/casualties/list.php))
42763385
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03):39543187
Since Handover (6/29/04):35562860
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09):18788
American WoundedOfficialEstimated (http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/10/1537224)
Total Wounded (http://antiwar.com/casualties/#wounded):31907Over 100000 (http://www.antiwar.com/glantz/?articleid=10262)
Latest Fatality Aug. 15, 2010
Page last updated 08/16/10 1:45 pm EDT (http://antiwar.com/casualties/list.php)
List of U.S. Servicemembers killed since 5/1/03 (http://antiwar.com/casualties/list.php)
Put a Casualty Counter on Your Website (http://antiwar.com/casualties/counter.php)
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U.S. Wounded
Daily DoD Casualty Release (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf)
320,000 Vets Have Brain Injuries (http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/300_000_vets_have_mental_problem_32_04172008.html)
War Veterans’ Concussions Are Often Overlooked (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/26/us/26tbi.html?partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all)
How Many Servicemembers Were Wounded? (http://www.antiwar.com/glantz/?articleid=9937#wounded)
18 Vet Suicides Per Day? (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/21/cbsnews_investigates/main4032921.shtml)


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: keno on 08 17, 10, 10:41:40:AM
320,000 Vets Have Brain Injuries (http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/300_000_vets_have_mental_problem_32_04172008.html)
I call booshit!


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: dallas795 on 08 17, 10, 10:41:59:AM
Iraqi Casualties (http://antiwar.com/updates/)
Others
(http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/images/iraqdeaths.gif) (http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html)
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq (http://icasualties.org/Iraq/DeathsByCountry.aspx)
318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan (http://icasualties.org/oef/)
1,227
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan (http://icasualties.org/OEF/DeathsByYear.aspx)
775
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq (http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/08/01/iraq-key-figures-since-the-war-began/)
1,457
Journalists - Iraq (http://www.brusselstribunal.org/JournalistKilled.htm)
338
Academics Killed - Iraq (http://www.brusselstribunal.org/academicsList.htm)
437
Sources: DoD (http://www.defenselink.mil/), MNF (http://www.mnf-iraq.com/), and iCasualties.org (http://icasualties.org/oif/)
The Faces (http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/)
The List  (http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/list.php)
Sources (http://antiwar.com/casualties/index.php#source)
American Casualties (http://antiwar.com/casualties/index.php#us)
Iraqi Casualties (http://antiwar.com/casualties/index.php#iraqi)
Contact (http://antiwar.com/casualties/contact.php)
<A href="<A">Iraqi Civilian Count

We maintain a daily count based on news reports (http://antiwar.com/updates/). It is not intended to be complete. There is no agency that keeps track of accurate numbers of Iraqis killed. JustForeignPolicy (http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html) maintains a running estimate based on the Lancet study (http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(07)60062-2/fulltext) with the rate of increase derived from the Iraq Body Count (http://www.iraqbodycount.org/). [/td][/tr][/table]


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: keno on 08 17, 10, 10:42:23:AM
Maybe we should have axed that in 1951. Or 1965.


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: Me_Beavis_U on 08 17, 10, 10:42:50:AM
Until you have full knowledge of world politics, resource demand and population control, There is no answer. The war and country involved may only be a pawn in an entirely different agenda.

 This current war is keeping conservatives on the battlefield and out of the Communists hair for now.


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: dallas795 on 08 17, 10, 10:44:39:AM
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Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: Me_Beavis_U on 08 17, 10, 10:46:59:AM
Why did you even bother starting the thread if that is the way you intended to respond. Looks real Brain Dead on your part.


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: dallas795 on 08 17, 10, 10:47:23:AM
"Compassionate Conservatism"
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Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 08 17, 10, 10:48:22:AM
The Carter Doctrine apparently saw a gain or it would not have been created and upheld...


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: dallas795 on 08 17, 10, 10:51:31:AM
The Carter Doctrine apparently saw a gain or it would not have been created and upheld...
 
Tell that to those you remain behind and the remains in the body bags that are forever dead because of lies.
 
What have you ever given to your country Sweet. Please don't even try...


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: keno on 08 17, 10, 10:52:34:AM
Tell that to those you remain behind and the remains in the body bags that are forever dead because of lies.

 
The ones from Viet Nam?


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 08 17, 10, 10:53:39:AM
What lies? 


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: 2whyme on 08 17, 10, 10:56:26:AM
Dullass blathered: 
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Tell that to those you remain behind and the remains in the body bags that are forever dead because of lies.

Just like the ones told by that paragon of the democratic party, LBJ, concerning the incident in the Tonkin Gulf.  A whole bunch more body bags that this (around 50K, I believe).

Dullass again blathered: 
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What have you ever given to your country Sweet. Please don't even try...

Please enlighten us as to what you have ever given to your country, dullass, I don't mean pay your taxes, all of us do that.


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: Me_Beavis_U on 08 17, 10, 11:01:23:AM

Now I understand, this dullard only has worn out democrat talking points and insults. What a waste of time. Even an idiot would ignore this blather.


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: dallas795 on 08 17, 10, 11:04:10:AM
LIE #1: "The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program ... Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons." -- President Bush, Oct. 7, 2002, in Cincinnati.

LIE #2: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." -- President Bush, Jan.28, 2003, in the State of the Union address.

LIE #3: "We believe [Saddam] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." -- Vice President Cheney on March 16, 2003 on "Meet the Press."

LIE #4: "[The CIA possesses] solid reporting of senior-level contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda going back a decade." -- CIA Director George Tenet in a written statement released Oct. 7, 2002 and echoed in that evening's speech by President Bush.

LIE #5: "We've learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases ... Alliance with terrorists could allow the Iraqi regime to attack America without leaving any fingerprints." -- President Bush, Oct. 7.

LIE #6: "We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We are concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs [unmanned aerial vehicles] for missions targeting the United States." -- President Bush, Oct. 7.

LIE #8: "Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent. That is enough to fill 16,000 battlefield rockets." -- Secretary of State Colin Powell, Feb. 5 2003, in remarks to the UN Security Council.


LIE #9: "We know where [Iraq's WMD] are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat." -- Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld

LIE #10: "Yes, we found a biological laboratory in Iraq which the UN prohibited." -- President Bush in remarks in Poland, published internationally June 1, 2003.


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 08 17, 10, 11:08:20:AM
Read the Democrats Iraq War Bill in 2002 and it explains the many reasons for ending the ceasefire and removal of Saddam.  btw, Sen. Daschle (D) was the Senate Majority Leader.


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 08 17, 10, 11:12:11:AM
What have you ever given to your country Sweet.
 
More than you dallas...


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: dallas795 on 08 17, 10, 11:16:15:AM
The answer to my question Sweet you are a taker, anything you can get. Those are the ones that complain the loudest.
 
I give a lot in many ways but I will never put on a uniform in defense of this country because it is almost always wrong on every issue.


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: 2whyme on 08 17, 10, 11:23:56:AM
 
The answer to my question Sweet you are a taker, anything you can get. Those are the ones that complain the loudest.

I give a lot in many ways but I will never put on a uniform in defense of this country because it is almost always wrong on every issue.

Why am I not surprised that dullass will never put on a uniform in defense of this country, why, because he is a chicken shit little boy.


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: lakitss on 08 17, 10, 11:25:57:AM
I give a lot in many ways but I will never put on a uniform in defense of this country because it is almost always wrong on every issue.
 
Selfless service is a foreign concept to many liberals.


Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: Byteryder on 08 17, 10, 12:26:37:PM
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Title: Re: What Does War Gain A Country When There Is Nothing To Gain
Post by: darkflower on 08 17, 10, 12:58:28:PM
ww2 was the last time anyone put on a uniform in defense of this country.
 
War never gains any country, as in the people of that country, anything. Wars are fought to enrich the elite and do nothing but harm all others involved.