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Title: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 11:41:19:AM
Sister of Slain Ambassador: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are


Dr. Anne Stevens, sister of slain Ambassador Chris Stevens, who spoke out against right-wing conspiracy theorists and Republican budget-spenders in an interview with the New Yorker, absolving former Secretary Clinton of blame for the attacks and placing it squarely where it belongs – with the House Republicans who slashed embassy security funds in the name of austerity.

Dr. Stevens said that “I do not blame Hillary Clinton or [then Secretary of Defense] Leon Panetta. They were balancing security efforts at embassies and missions around the world. And their staffs were doing their best to provide what they could with the resources they had. The Benghazi Mission was understaffed. We know that now. But, again, Chris knew that. It wasn’t a secret to him. He decided to take the risk to go there. It is not something they did to him. It is something he took on himself.”

When asked if she thought the issue was politicized, she replied “Yes! Definitely politicized. Every report I read that mentions him specifically has a political bent, an accusatory bent.” She then went on to place to blame for the attacks where it truly belongs: with the Republican-dominated House of Representatives.

“It is clear, in hindsight, that the facility was not sufficiently protected by the State Department and the Defense Department. But what was the underlying cause? Perhaps if Congress had provided a budget to increase security for all missions around the world, then some of the requests for more security in Libya would have been granted. Certainly the State Department is underbudgeted…It would be much more useful for Congress to focus on providing resources for security for all State Department facilities around the world—for increasing personnel, language capabilities, for increasing staff to build relationships, particularly in North Africa and the Middle East. I would love to hear they are drastically increasing the budget.”


http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/chris-stevenss-family-dont-blame-hillary-clinton-for-benghazi?utm_content=bufferd52c6&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 11:45:03:AM
So, Republicans forced Obama and Hillary not to send rescue forces to Benghazi?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 11:51:54:AM
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Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 11:53:44:AM
Republican Congressman Jason Chaffetz (Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

CNN anchor Soledad O’Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had “voted to cut the funding for embassy security.”

“Absolutely,” Chaffetz said. “Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country."


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Neckbone72 on 06 29, 16, 11:55:59:AM
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Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 11:57:34:AM
So, Republicans forced Obama and Hillary not to send rescue forces to Benghazi?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 11:59:01:AM
That's not what Gowdy's report said d2.  Have you bothered to read that latest republican report?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 12:00:00:PM
So, Republicans forced Obama and Hillary not to send rescue forces to Benghazi?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Neckbone72 on 06 29, 16, 12:00:28:PM
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Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: caserio1 on 06 29, 16, 12:05:53:PM
republicans are no match for the clinton brain


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 12:06:14:PM
The report also finds that the military did not carry out then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta's order to deploy U.S. forces to help rescue Americans under fire in Benghazi.

"What was disturbing from the evidence the Committee found was that at the time of the final lethal attack at the Annex, no asset ordered deployed by the Secretary had even left the ground," the report says.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Neckbone72 on 06 29, 16, 12:10:31:PM
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Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wxzyw on 06 29, 16, 12:15:41:PM
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https://www.youtube.com/v/9prSnWynJDo


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Dan on 06 29, 16, 12:19:09:PM
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Secretary Clinton of blame for the attacks and placing it squarely where it belongs – with the House Republicans who slashed embassy security funds in the name of austerity.

So the wife of a liberal democrat hack appointee is falsely blaming Republicans for Hillary's incompetence and indifference?  Does that about sum it up?  Shame on her.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Dan on 06 29, 16, 12:20:22:PM
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So, Republicans forced Obama and Hillary not to send rescue forces to Benghazi?

Democrats are truly disgusting.  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/angry.gif)


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Jw2 on 06 29, 16, 12:21:00:PM
Republican traitors, sullying the lives of 4 American diplomats for an attempt at political gain.  Shame.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Local5th on 06 29, 16, 12:23:32:PM
All this time I thought a YouTube video was the cause.

Yall keep jumping from cause to cause don't you?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Local5th on 06 29, 16, 12:40:45:PM
The Washington Post Fact Checker: “The Reality Is That Funding For Embassy Security Has Increased Significantly In Recent Years.” “Moreover, while Boxer claims that Republicans ‘cut’ the budget, she is only comparing it to what the Obama administration proposed. The reality is that funding for embassy security has increased significantly in recent years. The Department of State’s base requests for security funding have increased by 38 percent since Fiscal Year (FY) 2007, and base budget appropriations have increased by 27 percent in the same time period,’ said the bipartisan Senate Homeland Security report on the Benghazi attack.” (Glenn Kessler, “Barbara Boxer’s Claim That GOP Budgets Hampered Benghazi Security,” The Washington Post's Fact Checker (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/barbara-boxers-claim-that-gop-budgets-hampered-benghazi-security/2013/05/15/d1e295cc-bdb0-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_blog.html), 5/16/13)


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Dan on 06 29, 16, 12:42:39:PM
democrat traitors, sullying the lives of 4 Americans for an attempt at political gain.  Shame.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Dan on 06 29, 16, 12:44:24:PM
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All this time I thought a YouTube video was the cause.

That's what Hillary told the widow of one of the victims after knowing it was a terror attack from the beginning.  That's what she said to us all for three weeks before admitting what she knew on day one.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 01:04:19:PM
So, Republicans forced Obama and Hillary not to send rescue forces to Benghazi?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 01:28:36:PM
The report also finds that the military did not carry out then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta's order to deploy U.S. forces to help rescue Americans under fire in Benghazi.

"What was disturbing from the evidence the Committee found was that at the time of the final lethal attack at the Annex, no asset ordered deployed by the Secretary had even left the ground," the report says.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 06 29, 16, 01:34:40:PM
Denial will not solve Stevens and the other murders from lack of protection by Hillary and Obama even when the Amb. Stevens requested it for months before the Islamic terrorists murdered the Americans.   But we can always blame it on a video as Hillary and Obama did with Hillary lying to the families of the dead as they have stated after speaking with her on the AFB tarmac where the coffins were unloaded.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wxzyw on 06 29, 16, 01:35:56:PM

With 56 days before re-election, the left would have us believe that 0bama, and his handling of terrorism, did not order a Stand-down!

Is that what the left wants us to believe?


OBTW........ 204 days left in the defiler's term.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Truman62 on 06 29, 16, 01:37:28:PM
Denial will not solve Stevens and the other murders from lack of protection


but putting the blame squarely where it belongs, on the shoulders of the


cheap, tight-wad Republican House, will surely help!



Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 01:39:29:PM
So, Republicans forced Obama and Hillary not to send rescue forces to Benghazi?

Republicans forced Hillary's State Department to lose $6 billion?

Republicans forced Hillary's State Department to uses local security instead of Marines or Blackwater?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Local5th on 06 29, 16, 01:48:33:PM
The report also finds that the military did not carry out then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta's order to deploy U.S. forces to help rescue Americans under fire in Benghazi.



The report claimed that White House officials convened a meeting at 7:30 PM just after the attack began which ran about two hours long. During the meeting, administration officials focused on an anti-Islamic YouTube video. Other action items discussed during the meeting said that before military support is provided , “Libya must agree to any deployment.”

Also included in the report was the fact that a Fleet Anti-terrorism Security Team (FAST), was activated in Rota, Spain, but was grounded for as many as three hours. FAST teams are comprised (http://www.military.com/special-operations/marine-fleet-antiterrorism-security-team.html) of highly trained Marine Corps elements responsible for protecting Navy and Marine Corps assets abroad in emergency situations.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/28/benghazi-report-claims-government-officials-failed-to-act-on-obamas-orders/


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 06 29, 16, 01:54:00:PM
LOL, the idiots think it was a money problem not to protect the Ambassador...  Try again idiots.  No one is that stupid.   


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: jst-the-fax on 06 29, 16, 01:56:08:PM
Other dumb post by Mrs wvit-hawkie (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/emo_hattip.gif)


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 01:57:23:PM
so you guys are still relying on people telling you what's in the report and you refuse to read it yourselves?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 01:57:53:PM
Republican Congressman Jason Chaffetz (Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

CNN anchor Soledad O’Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had “voted to cut the funding for embassy security.”

“Absolutely,” Chaffetz said. “Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country."


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 02:03:14:PM
So, Republicans forced Obama and Hillary not to send rescue forces to Benghazi?

Republicans forced Hillary's State Department to lose $6 billion?

Republicans forced Hillary's State Department to uses local security instead of Marines or Blackwater?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 02:05:27:PM
you should read the report d2 because they idiocy you spew isn't in it anywhere.

https://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 02:06:34:PM
So, Republicans forced Obama and Hillary not to send rescue forces to Benghazi?

Republicans forced Hillary's State Department to lose $6 billion?

Republicans forced Hillary's State Department to uses local security instead of Marines or Blackwater?
                                                                                                                                       


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 02:08:11:PM
The following facts are among the many new revelations in Part I:

Despite President Obama and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta’s clear orders to deploy military assets, nothing was sent to Benghazi, and nothing was en route to Libya at the time the last two Americans were killed almost 8 hours after the attacks began. [pg. 141]


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Byteryder on 06 29, 16, 02:08:31:PM
The ones truly responsible for Benghazi are those who believe Hillary and Obama bear no fault in the failure there.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 02:11:01:PM
 
The following facts are among the many new revelations in Part I:

Despite President Obama and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta’s clear orders to deploy military assets, nothing was sent to Benghazi, and nothing was en route to Libya at the time the last two Americans were killed almost 8 hours after the attacks began. [pg. 141]
Not once during those 13 long hours did Obama, Panetta or Hillary request an update on the rescue!

The fact is they didn't care and showed no concern for the lives of those people in Benghazi!

They simply didn't care!


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 02:11:51:PM
is that just something else you made up d2?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Byteryder on 06 29, 16, 02:12:44:PM
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Despite President Obama and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta’s clear orders to deploy military assets, nothing was sent to Benghazi, and nothing was en route to Libya at the time the last two Americans were killed almost 8 hours after the attacks began. [pg. 141]

Who then was held responsible for failure to execute those clear orders?  What sort of consequences did they suffer?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wxzyw on 06 29, 16, 02:13:58:PM

The specific person who ordered the "Stand-down" could not be identified due to obstruction by the 0bama administration, Gowdy  report the obstruction in the report!



Gowdy Didn't Specify Whether Witnesses Said That Military Or Local Security Personnel Claim They Were Told To "Stand Down." When asked about whether a "stand-down" order was given in Benghazi in a January 13 interview on the Boston Herald's radio show Boston Herald Drive, Gowdy said that "there are witnesses who say there was one, there are witnesses who say there was not one." From the interview (emphasis added):

ADRIANA COHEN: Congressman Gowdy, can you give our audience an update on what is happening with the Benghazi investigation? We know that you recently obtained testimony from General Petraeus, and he said that there was no stand down order given during the attacks. Can you bring us up to speed?

TREY GOWDY: Yeah, we interviewed General Petraeus, we interviewed Secretary Panetta, we interviewed a witness yesterday that I don't think any other committees talked to. We're interviewing a witness in 21 minutes that no other committee has talked to. We're just doing it privately and I get the criticism of when you do things in private, people either don't know about it or the news vacuum is filled by, you know, Democrat press releases about how long it's taking or how much money it's costing. But I committed at the very front that I was going to do this the right way, the way that investigations should be done. And you know I would hasten to add, I don't think a single Democrat has asked the Department of Justice why they haven't brought Khattalah to trial yet. I haven't heard a single one complain about the amount of time that its taken the Department of Justice to bring the only person who's been apprehended in connection with Benghazi to trial. So, they're willing to give a pass when their guys are doing an investigation, they do nothing but obstruct when we're trying to do it. But I'm going to continue to – we have about a dozen witnesses left to talk to. We are still waiting on documents from DOD, CIA, and the State Department. And then we're going to write a really fact-centric, fair report.

And you mentioned the stand down order, there are witnesses who say there was one, there are witnesses who say there was not one. And I wasn't there, and you weren't there, and your listeners weren't there. So the best I can do is lay out what the witnesses say, and then you're going to have to make a determination as to who you believe is more credible. You should never let me tell you whether a red light - whether a light was red or green if I wasn't at the intersection. You should say, 'well how do you know that?' The best I can do is tell you what the witnesses say, and then you can decide who you think is more credible.

COHEN: Congressman Gowdy, when the investigation – when Leon Panetta first gave testimony, he said that the question was asked to him by Congress, why weren't military assets deployed to rescue our men there. And he said, basically, that there wasn't enough time to get assets to the area. But since then, now on emails and reports have come out that there were assets readily available, the terminology was they were spinning up, ready to go, but that they weren't given the go-ahead by someone in the government, whether it's the State Department or the Pentagon. Is that true?

GOWDY: Part of what you said is true, part of what you said we don't know, and as fate would have it, that is the very witness that I am going to be examining now in 20 minutes, the author of that email [Jeremy Bash, former Chief of Staff at the Department of Defense]. And it is impossible for me to believe that any committee was able to do its job without that email and without asking questions of that witness. I think it is fair for your listeners to focus on two points. Number one, were there assets in the region that could have reached Benghazi in time for the second attack? I don't think there's any argument the ambassador and Sean Smith, who died due to smoke inhalation – the only folks who could have gotten there in time, were the GRS heroes who did go, but there were no assets that could have gotten there. The second attack, the one where we lost Glen Doherty and Ty Woods, that is an eminently fair question, but there are two questions. Number one, did we have assets in the region that could have responded? But an equally important question is, if the answer to that question is no, why not? With the Arab Spring, on the anniversary of 9/11, with Cairo having just taken place hours before, why were no assets moving toward that region? And both of those questions, to me, are equally important and you have to talk to the author of the spinning up email, which is exactly who we're talking to this morning. [Boston Herald, Boston Herald Drive, 1/13/16]


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wxzyw on 06 29, 16, 02:15:02:PM

Who then was held responsible for failure to execute those clear orders?  What sort of consequences did they suffer?



Who do you think?  It's the responsibility of the CIC 


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 02:18:15:PM
have you read the report?  I can't read it for you.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 02:21:34:PM
the report mentions no "stand down" order being given xyz.  what are you blabbering about?

you can look through the timeline in Appendix G for a stand down order but I haven't seen anything about one.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: sine-qua-non on 06 29, 16, 02:29:48:PM
The operators on the ground clearly stated there was two stand down orders give them

But they went in anyway!

Why are you so stupid nitwit? Ignorant as usual posting it with no shame makes you a lying psycho!


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 02:37:04:PM
the report mentions no "stand down" order being given sine.  what are you blabbering about?

you can look through the timeline in Appendix G for a stand down order but I haven't seen anything about one.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 02:38:23:PM
do you think Gowdy hid or failed to report on some of the stuff he and his committee were told? 


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: sine-qua-non on 06 29, 16, 02:42:13:PM
Believe who wasn't there

Or believe eye witnesses who were there

You get suckered all the time nitwit.  Why are you so stupid?  Genetics or leftist brainwashing?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 02:42:33:PM
Not once during those 13 long hours did Obama, Panetta or Hillary request an update on the rescue!

The fact is they didn't care and showed no concern for the lives of those people in Benghazi!

They simply didn't care!


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 02:44:56:PM
do you think Gowdy hid or failed to report on some of the stuff he and his committee were told?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: sine-qua-non on 06 29, 16, 02:49:14:PM
Do you believe multiple eye witness report accounts

Or

Those who weren't even there, stooge?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 02:50:16:PM
do you think Gowdy hid or failed to report on some of the stuff he and his committee were told?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 02:51:21:PM
What I think is that when those guys you reference were under oath they changed their stories. 


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: sine-qua-non on 06 29, 16, 03:25:20:PM
No, they weren't and did not.

Apparently you need your lies to justify your insanity nitwit!

Still can't answer my questions, the true sign of a lying psycho that you portray here so well nitwit!


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 03:33:32:PM
You're a couple bubbles off plumb sine.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 06 29, 16, 03:35:58:PM
have you read the report?  I can't read it for you.

You read all 800 pages of the report, wvit?   You are a liar.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: sine-qua-non on 06 29, 16, 03:50:54:PM
Blah blah blah nitwit

Still refuse to answer you psycho stooge


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 03:53:20:PM
Why are you refusing to answe sine?


Title: this 0bama-chickenshit led from behind and didn't know what
Post by: wxzyw on 06 29, 16, 03:56:36:PM
The Chief of Base was adamant that he never told the Annex team members
to “stand down.”
You said that you let them go. Did you give them an affirmative
order for them to go?
A: I think I was working with [the Team Lead] the whole time –
Q: Okay.
A: —in an effort to get them to get them gone, to have them go.
So whether or not I gave an affirmative order, but I wanted them
to go. They were cleared to go. And they went.
Q: When you say they were cleared to go, is that you giving the
clearance?
A: Yes.
*****
see him yelling at [the Chief of Base]. He’s going like this. Now,
I didn’t hear it, but I asked him after what he said to him. He was
just there. Him and [the Chief of Base] are jaw jacking.
He gets in the car. I said what’s going on, dude? He said he’s
telling us to stand down. Now [GRS 1] told me that on the radio,
but I said my vehicle was doors were closed, armored vehicle,
but I remember seeing him go to the driver’s side and just—
Q: So it was just you and [GRS 5] in your vehicle?
A: Yeah. And then I also reconfirmed that when I asked [GRS 1]
later. He wasn’t happy.1
Q: Did you have any discussions—do you recall having any discussions
with the deputy chief of base about allowing the guys to
go?
A: I don’t recall any. It was never—I never had any doubt about
the GRS people going to the State Department compound. I had
great concerns and great worry about it but I did not, I did not
tell anybody to stand down.

The Chief of Base acknowledged he may have told the team to wait
while he was attempting to secure additional resources for them.
I may have said wait because we were trying to get this technical
truck that the team lead wanted. But it wasn’t 10 minutes, or 5
minutes. It was a short period of time. And the only time I remember
ever talking to [Annex team member] was when he
came up, and I said I’m trying to get a technical truck for [the
Team Lead]. There was nobody, myself or anybody else in Benghazi,
that did anything to hold up the GRS deploying. The team
lead was always cleared to go.164
He further added:
People were coming and going the entire time. But I did not issue
a stand-down order. And if there was a delay, there was a
very short delay, basically the team lead we have to try to get
this gun truck.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: lluke47 on 06 29, 16, 03:59:02:PM
The butcher of Benghazi and the illiterate pos in the WH are the blame for the deaths of those in Benghazi, no if's, no and's and no buts...period..


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: sine-qua-non on 06 29, 16, 03:59:48:PM
Answer what?

I've asked you multiple times here to answer me but you continue to ignore me like a scared little girl that you are!


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wxzyw on 06 29, 16, 04:01:53:PM
Ran back in, told [Annex Team Member], we got all of our
clothes on, ran out of the team room, got the big weapons … and
we loaded up in the vehicles. It was probably about 5 minutes or
so after we learned of the ongoing attack. And we’re probably
sitting there for a little while. We’re sitting in the car, you know,
just going over, double checking our weapons, double checking
our gear, you know, kind of saying, hey, you know, what’s going
on, what’s taking so long.
We’re probably sitting there a good 15 minutes, and I get out of
the car. I have the Chief of Base, the Deputy Chief of Base, and
the team leader on the front porch. They’re all three on the phone
doing something.
And I just say: Hey, you know, we’ve got to get over there.
We’re losing the initiative. The Chief of Base looks at me, he
says: Stand down, you need to wait. You need to come up with a
plan.
And I say: No, it’s too late to come up with a plan. We need to
get over in the area, get eyes on, and then we can come up with a
plan.
And that’s kind of where I left it because they left it at that, and I
got back in the car.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wxzyw on 06 29, 16, 04:03:35:PM

Q: And what were each of them doing?
A: They were on the phone.
Q: Okay. They were all on the phone?
A: Yes.
Q: Okay. And you said that—I’m just paraphrasing: We’ve got
to get over there. We’re losing the initiative. Did you say that?
Does that sound right?
A: Yes.
Q: And did you say that to anybody in particular or all three of
them?
A: Pretty much all three of them because I was looking directly
at them.
Q: Okay. And what was the response that you got from all of
them or any of them?
A: “Stand down. You need to wait.” That was from the chief of
base.
Q: Okay. Do you remember exactly what the chief—is that a
paraphrase? Did he use those exact words? Do you remember?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 04:11:06:PM
Answe what?  What's your question? 


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 04:20:01:PM
was that from the report xyz or from the official deposition or what?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wxzyw on 06 29, 16, 04:28:45:PM

was that from the report xyz or from the official deposition or what?


You did claim you read the report, right vit?

That was from the report... verbatim...  I can't read it for you.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 04:32:50:PM
what page was it on?

https://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Sadie402 on 06 29, 16, 04:41:21:PM
Sorry did not mean to top post.......


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Sadie402 on 06 29, 16, 04:42:54:PM
but I can add this....

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/benghazi-ambassador-stevens-family-just-made-donald-trump-look-like-a-fool/


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 04:44:08:PM
Not once during those 13 long hours did Obama, Panetta or Hillary request an update on the rescue!

The fact is they didn't care and showed no concern for the lives of those people in Benghazi!

They simply didn't care!                                                                                                                                       


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 04:49:39:PM
I asked you this before d2 but you never answered.  Is that just something else you've made up?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 04:52:50:PM
That is what the facts tell me!

Had they asked for updates they would have known the rescue wasn't taking place and been able to get things moving!

The fact the rescue never got off the ground proves they never asked for an update at any time during those 13 hours!

Logic and reason lead to the truth of it!

Sorry, you are not capable of doing the same!


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 04:54:46:PM
so, the short answer is yes, it's just something else you made up.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 04:55:43:PM
Wvit admits he has no logic, reasoning or deductive capability!

How sad!


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: duke_john on 06 29, 16, 04:58:39:PM
Add "devoid of honesty," and you've got a deal.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 05:03:08:PM
Fair point!


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 05:04:22:PM
Isn't that what you just said d2?  That you made it up?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 05:07:10:PM
So, Wvit are you saying Obama/Hillary regularly go updates and were satisfied no rescue operation was underway?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 05:08:25:PM
I didn't say that.  Was that in the report d2?  All I can go by is what Gowdy's republican lead committee put in the report.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wxzyw on 06 29, 16, 05:32:59:PM

The fact the rescue never got off the ground proves they never asked for an update at any time during those 13 hours!


13 HOURS... no rescue... but they sure had time to BLAME a video, didn't they?



Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 05:36:05:PM
Wvit it is one of the two!

Either not once during those 13 long hours did Obama, Panetta or Hillary request an update on the rescue!

Or,  Obama/Hillary regularly got updates and were satisfied no rescue operation was underway?   

Either way the fact is they didn't care and showed no concern for the lives of those people in Benghazi!

They simply didn't care!                                                                     


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 05:40:01:PM
I think the report actually says that the president and secretary of state were fully involved and updated throughout the attack and it's aftermath doesn't it.

I guess your thoroughly disappointed in the committee report since it doesn't back up any of the crazy stuff you believe.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Byteryder on 06 29, 16, 05:40:25:PM
Sounds like a standard Command Level Cluster Fuck.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 05:41:05:PM
 So you admit Obama/Hillary regularly got updates and were satisfied no rescue operation was underway?   

The fact is they didn't care and showed no concern for the lives of those people in Benghazi!

They simply didn't care!                                          


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 05:42:34:PM
I don't see where the report said anything like that d2.  you should really stop just making up stuff.


I guess your thoroughly disappointed in the committee report since it doesn't back up any of the crazy stuff you believe.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 05:44:38:PM
Wvit it is one of the two!

Either not once during those 13 long hours did Obama, Panetta or Hillary request an update on the rescue!

Or,  Obama/Hillary regularly got updates and were satisfied no rescue operation was underway?   

Either way the fact is they didn't care and showed no concern for the lives of those people in Benghazi!

They simply didn't care!            


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: duke_john on 06 29, 16, 05:49:39:PM
Don't expect an honest answer from wvit.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wvit1001 on 06 29, 16, 06:06:43:PM
You guys must really be disappointed in gowey's report.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 06:08:11:PM
Everything I posted is in sync with the Benghazi report!

Sorry you have no reasoning ability, Wvit!


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Truman62 on 06 29, 16, 06:12:16:PM
I doubt you have the ability to analyze let alone reason, DVD.
 
You have no room to talk.  Your illogic is legendary.
 
 
 
 


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Jim on 06 29, 16, 06:14:06:PM
Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
 
So what you are telling us is that when Obama and Hillary got the news that the Benghazi Embassy was under attack the best they could do was send out a memo proclaiming "Sorry, we don't have the funds Steven, yer on your own."
 
How many other ways does the left have that can make both Obama and Hillary look even less competent?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 06:14:47:PM
Prove me wrong, Davik?

You cannot so instead you bleat feeble childish insult!


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: caserio1 on 06 29, 16, 06:18:47:PM
jews have an effective word for the anti hillary viputeration

drech

keep it in mind


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 29, 16, 06:20:21:PM
You cannot prove me wrong so instead you bleat feeble childish insults!


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: duke_john on 06 29, 16, 08:40:24:PM
Jews have a great word for someone who supports Hillary: putz.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wxzyw on 06 29, 16, 08:46:59:PM
... I thought it was schmuck.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: duke_john on 06 29, 16, 09:29:07:PM
They have similar connotations.  Both apply to cas.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Jim on 06 29, 16, 10:49:59:PM
 

Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are

So what you are telling us is that when Obama and Hillary got the news that the Benghazi Embassy was under attack the best they could do was send out a memo proclaiming "Sorry, we don't have the funds Steven, yer on your own."

How many other ways does the left have that can make both Obama and Hillary look even less competent?


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Jw2 on 06 30, 16, 02:30:26:PM
Tray Goudy is a terrorist enabler.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: duke_john on 06 30, 16, 02:35:27:PM
No, jw, he is not an Obama supporter or a democrat.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: wxzyw on 06 30, 16, 02:40:05:PM

In the report, between the lines... Hillary, 0bama and a few bipartisan House and Senate....

... set up the Benghazi Mission to ship weapons to all groups fighting Kaddafi, those groups were comprised solely of Terrorists that assisted in dethroning Kaddafi.

Of course 0bama gave the "Stand down" order....... something the left claims was written in invisible-ink.


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: caserio1 on 06 30, 16, 02:44:10:PM
republicans cut the funding for protection

be a man and tell the truth


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Local5th on 06 30, 16, 05:55:20:PM
republicans cut the funding for protection

Easy to say. Do you have numbers to show how much it was cut from the previous year?

And even if it was cut, which president signed the bill that allowed the cut?



Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Sadie402 on 06 30, 16, 06:00:43:PM
You would say they were false numbers 5th........


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: Local5th on 06 30, 16, 06:09:18:PM
You would say they were false numbers 5th........

If they were valid, no. I don't play that chickenshit game.

I do know the budget wasn't cut. They didn't get as much as they asked for but they got more than in the previous year.



Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 30, 16, 07:11:07:PM
It is one of the two!

Either not once during those 13 long hours did Obama, Panetta or Hillary request an update on the rescue!

Or,  Obama/Hillary regularly got updates and were satisfied no rescue operation was underway!

Either way the fact is they didn't care and showed no concern for the lives of those people in Benghazi!

   


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: D2D on 06 30, 16, 11:31:31:PM
 (http://freedomsback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Blame-Wheel-Obama-600-LI1.jpg)

http://freedomsback.com/ann-coulter/this-hidden-fact-predicts-terrorism/


Title: Re: Hillary Isn’t To Blame For Benghazi, REPUBLICANS Are
Post by: BeachLaw on 09 01, 18, 07:51:57:PM
Military assets were deliberately withheld from Americans under fire and there was a 'stand down order'. The liberal's excuse is that our forces were unprepared. However, if our considerable military forces in the region were simply not ready to respond to an urgent request for help what does that say about the Obama administration? After all, it’s not as if Libya was a model of stability, and it was well-known that Islamic militias were escalating attacks on western interests. It’s incumbent on the world’s most powerful military to maintain sufficient assets at the ready to respond to emergencies in a highly volatile region.
Can anyone imagine this taking place under our current administration and Defense Secretary Mattis? Not a chance.