you know, that fantasy that Senator Sanders supporters will hate Secretary Clinton so much, they will flock to Team Trump.



Sanders Voters Pick Hillary Over Trump 81% to 8% (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/26/donald-trumps-bad-month-just-got-worse-because-bernie-backers-just-rallied-to-clinton/)


Donald Trump would like for Bernie Sanders supporters to ditch the Democratic Party and support him.

Well, we have some bad news for the Trump campaign. Sanders supporters aren't just rallying around Clinton; they're doing it rather quickly. And it's a big reason Clinton just extended her lead over Trump into the double digits, 51 percent to 39 percent. Sanders backers, who polls have shown were reluctant to jump over to Clinton and even flirted with supporting Trump, are coming home faster than we might have expected.

Last month, 20 percent of Sanders supporters said they would back Trump over Clinton in the general election. This month, that figure is down to 8 percent.

And the poll was conducted before, we would note, Sanders began saying last week that he would support Clinton over Trump in the general election

Indeed, as a Pew poll last week showed, Sanders supporters were more anti-Republican Party than Clinton backers. About 7 in 10 of them, in fact, said the Republican Party makes them "afraid" -- vs. 55 percent of Clinton supporters.


That was never really a recipe for a big crossover vote. And this poll suggests that possibility has been foreclosed.



so...the idealistic left and the pragmatic left come together to defeat the very wrong right. 

We will see on election day!

I agree.  Sanders is a lunatic.

  I know people who vote democrat who HATE Hitlery!! and this is back in NY ,, I can only wonder about people in Ohio,,Fla, and VA...

Well take the 8%.  That's a high defection rate.  We don't need many.

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That Secret Service agent says in his book Hillary constantly screamed at him and called him names!

If it was suicide she drove him to it!

OK, and we'll take these. http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/25/bombshell-poll-20-republicans-vote-hillary-clinton-trump-wins.html

The poll was flawed. What percent will go third party?

And point of fact, electing a non-progressive dem is worse for progressives than any republican. Who wants to spend four years being told to stfu for the good of the party? Or worse, 8 years. At least dems pretend to care about progressives when reps are in the white house. When they have the white house they tell us to shut up and get in line. Screw that. A whole lot of Sanders supporters will never ever ever vote for that pos clinton.

What are progressives progressing toward?

More of the same, D2D.

If you think Trump would be better for the country than Clinton, DarkFlower, than you are further removed from reality than any of these tools on the right have accused you of being.

I did not say better for the country, I said better for progressives. We would be heard instead of ignored and told to shut up. Dems would pretend to like us. Media would cover us.

As for the country, it is like choosing between stalin and hitler. Does it really matter if one would be "better" than the other?

IMHO, yes, it really does matter. But then, I am not as cynical as some manic depressives. or is it bi-polars?

An idealist who sees the world for what it is, while wanting it to be better.

clinton is a murderous pos who belongs in prison. Same as obama and bush and cheney and large numbers of their administrations. obama has been a huge disappointment. They are all owned by wall street and wealthy interests and none of them are worth anything. They are scum.

And yes, I am sure there in fact would be "some" difference between rule by stalin and rule by hitler.Just not enough of a difference to give a damn. Or to not wish they'd both die.

Welcome to reality in the USA DarkFlower. We have the best government money can buy.

Reality does not have to be accepted as is, it can be changed. If it can not be changed then why bother to vote at all? I vote for a better reality, and that mean neither clinton nor trump because neither of them are acceptable. At all.

We will know, for sure, in 137 days.


Will your delusions then evaporate?  Not likely.   Youse people are clinically psychopathic.

Youse is an illiterate boob.

When Hillary fails to give what Sanders wants at the democrat convention he will go third party!

Asked and answered.

Asked and answered what?

dumb2dumber continues to go down the delusional path of ignorance.

Having lost the argument, Jw2 resorts to mindlessly puerile invective!

D2D already forgot his question. Bizarre.

What are progressives progressing toward?

Will you forget this question too?

You are the ass who responded to a question from two pages previous!

Go back and read #19, thru # 21 in order.  You do know how to go back a page, don't you?

OF COURSE the Bernie-bots will gravitate to Hillary-the-Hag!!!

Why would Socialists/Communists/Marxists vote for a normal Capitalist like Mr. Trump? ? ? ? ?

wndm said...If you think Trump would be better for the country than Clinton, DarkFlower, than you are further removed from reality than any of these tools on the right have accused you of being.


So what is the bitch of Benghazi proposing that will help the working people of America, bring back jobs and secure the country from terrorist?


Trade deals of the past have robbed Americans of jobs, we have been spending more than we get from the countries we trade with, china  -500+ billion, mexico -58 billion, along with every country we deal with, so tell me how this murderer clintoon will help working Americans..?

 
Child that wasn't a question!

Sorry D2D, now that I read it again, you are correct. I understood it to be "...will he...", not "...he will...". Again, I apologize.

But as he has said himself, his goal is to do whatever he can to prevent Donald Trump from being elected President. He can't do that with a third party run. He knows that, and so do you. Why do you continue to delude yourself?

Delusion is the cornerstone of aesopsretreat right wing lemmings.


in our little corner of conservative republican county - just one Democrat elected to any office in the entire county - we had this conversation yesterday at a business social.   my friends are died in the wool Republicans and they will vote for Trump because their hate for Secretary Clinton exceeds their reservations for Trump.  In the Democratic primary, Senator Sanders won our county, handily, over Clinton.  All the ones I talked to haven't any problem with voting for Secretary Clinton in November.

But the county has some strong willed conservatives who are strong anti-Trump people, who just can't compromise their conservative values to give their vote to Trump.


d2d and the rest of youse losers...go ahead.  I look forward to whatever rationalizations your delusional minds come up with for why Trump lost in 128 days from now.

What are progressives progressing toward?

Jizz-Wanker2...  Eating a free meal with other unemployed people at the Food Bank can hardly be called a "business social"!!!!!!

As I understand it... The Independents will decide who will be the next POTUS...  The last time I saw those numbers Trump was ahead by8%.