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Title: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 27, 16, 10:58:57:AM
Gross domestic product rose at a 0.8 percent annualized rate in the three months ended in March, the smallest gain in a year, Commerce Department figures showed Friday. That compares with the 0.5 percent advance the government reported last month.

The figures do little to alter views of the third consecutive sluggish start to the year, and could portend a tougher slog in the second quarter as businesses work to continue to pare stockpiles. At the same time, household income gains were stronger than previously reported as the labor market strengthened, which will help support consumer spending.

“It’s still a very poor start to the year,” Ryan Sweet, a senior economist at Moody’s Analytics Inc. in West Chester, Pennsylvania, said before the report. “From past experience we get most of that back in the second quarter.”

Income Gains

After-tax personal income adjusted for inflation climbed at a 4 percent annualized rate in the first quarter, revised up from a prior estimate of 2.9 percent. The saving rate was also pushed up to 5.7 percent, the highest since the fourth quarter of 2012, from 5.2 percent.

Total income in the economy, which combines all forms of earnings, increased at a 2.2 percent annualized rate, the most since the fourth quarter of 2014.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-economy-grew-more-last-quarter-than-previously-estimated/ar-BBtylz2?li=BBnbfcN


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: Byteryder on 05 27, 16, 11:27:39:AM
Doesn't sound like much to crow about.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: dont-blameme on 05 27, 16, 11:29:06:AM
Citizens of the word like wvit don't know much so it doesn't take much to get them to crow!


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 27, 16, 11:30:01:AM
Wage increases sound pretty good to me. 


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: Byteryder on 05 27, 16, 11:32:09:AM
All they do is increase inflation for those on a fixed income.  That doesn't sound good to me.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 27, 16, 11:34:06:AM
what inflation?  if there were inflation you're fixed income would get a raise wouldn't it?


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: jst-the-fax on 05 27, 16, 11:38:48:AM
wvit,
 
Do you realize the US Economy is growing at a slower rate than Europe?


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: Byteryder on 05 27, 16, 11:41:04:AM
Not for "creeping inflation"  I.E. inflation that does not get adjusted for unless goes up a minimum amount.  10 years of .5% inflation accumulates to 5.0% and none of it gets adjusted for.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 27, 16, 11:42:46:AM
but increasing interest rates on your investments would make up for the creeping inflation.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: chuck_curtis on 05 27, 16, 11:47:17:AM
It will raise prices so that those wage increases would be a wash.  You can't fight the laws of nature.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: jst-the-fax on 05 27, 16, 11:47:43:AM
wvit,

The Market is essentially flat with rates on CD and passbook accounts under 1%. So your dictator's economy is a bust at best...where investments are concerned. Unless you have a better lie to tell?


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 27, 16, 11:50:09:AM
I wouldn't put my money in the bank in savings accounts or in CD's right now, the interest rates are practically zero.  but if you'd had that money in the market for the past 8 years you'd have more than doubled it.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: jst-the-fax on 05 27, 16, 11:55:02:AM
wvit,

What caused the Market to double...was it real economic growth or the $10 trillion in funny money dictator obama and the federal reserve pumped into the market?


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 27, 16, 12:00:53:PM
funny money?  you mean that money and growth wasn't real?

one of the government's jobs is to prop up the economy during times of economic troubles until the private industry can stabilize itself.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 27, 16, 12:02:07:PM
if it wasn't for that "funny money" as you call it, our country would have descended into a huge depression.  Is that the option you would really want faxy?


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: jst-the-fax on 05 27, 16, 12:12:40:PM
wvit,

I don't believe that would have happened. The better way would have been for the Government to get the hell out of the way and let Americans keep a bigger percent of their take home pay...thus letting them invest in the economy at the consumer level. Growing the Government is the exact opposite of what was needed after your dems caused the economy to collapse in 2008.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: Byteryder on 05 27, 16, 12:12:45:PM
You make it sound as if there is no welfare class.  They don't have "investments".  Damn few of the middle working class have "investments".


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 27, 16, 12:15:10:PM
Obama hasn't grown the government faxy.  and before you start cutting taxes again how about the republicans in Congress cutting spending. 


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: Dan on 05 27, 16, 12:51:31:PM
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but increasing interest rates on your investments would make up for the creeping inflation

What interest bearing investment instruments exceed 2%?  You're lucky to break the 1% barrier.  To beat 2%, you have to put your money at risk.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: jst-the-fax on 05 27, 16, 12:56:07:PM
wow...finally...wvit gets something right...yes, Congress should have cut spending...but your dims in the senate and dictator obama will never approve? would they wvit?


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: chuck_curtis on 05 27, 16, 01:14:13:PM
Damn few of the middle working class have "investments".

And if they did and were near or in retirement, they would be nuts to invest significantly in the stock market.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: DaBoz on 05 27, 16, 01:16:18:PM
The market hasn't gone anywhere in a year. Its been in a trading range for 10 years, Its a shitty rigged investment in an artificial Govt set interest rate economy.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: wmdn_bs on 05 27, 16, 01:33:12:PM
It will raise prices so that those wage increases would be a wash.  You can't fight the laws of nature.

Chuck, I think you should turn down any raises you are offered, if you are still working. If you are retired, by your thought process, you should have turned down every raise ever offered to you.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: chuck_curtis on 05 27, 16, 01:39:07:PM
If raises are offered, they are offered for good economic reason, not because they are mandated by fiat.  They are not turned down.  They are deserved.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: Dan on 05 27, 16, 01:55:51:PM
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Damn few of the middle working class have "investments".

53% of Americans have equity investments.  That's a percentage of the total number of Americans.  So clearly a lot more people are investing than just the "one percent."


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: DaBoz on 05 27, 16, 01:57:54:PM
That number no doubt is largely Union pension funds with union member counted. Don't you think??


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: Dan on 05 27, 16, 01:58:56:PM
Also people who have mutual funds, IRAs and 401K accounts.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: wmdn_bs on 05 27, 16, 02:07:44:PM
If raises are offered, they are offered for good economic reason, not because they are mandated by fiat.  They are not turned down.  They are deserved.

But Chuck, they only cause inflation. Isn't that your claim? Shouldn't you do your part and turn down raises? I don't, but if you are the fiscal conservative you claim to be, and as principled as you claim, then perhaps you should.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: chuck_curtis on 05 27, 16, 04:09:27:PM
Raises that are offered for good economic reason do not cause inflation.  Increased productivity offsets the increased wage.  Productivity is not increasing enough to support increased wages.  Forcing wages higher creates economic hazard.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: wmdn_bs on 05 27, 16, 05:48:15:PM
Tsk tsk tsk... so raises are only bad when someone else gets them.


Title: Re: economy grew more last quarter than previously estimated
Post by: chuck_curtis on 05 27, 16, 06:18:09:PM
If all you think about is yourself getting one, there is nothing bad about them.