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Title: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: HK91-762mm on 01 29, 16, 03:27:09:PM
Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill==And tell me again How no one want to take your guns !!



Georgia lawmakers have put forth several gun control bills this year, including a measure that would call on law enforcement to seize and destroy what the proposal deems “assault weapons” from gun owners.
A major purpose of HB 731 (http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20152016/154275.pdf) is “to designate certain weaponry and ammunition as contraband and to require seizure of such by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.”


NOTE--The authors of this -Be Black !!



The measure requires “assault weapons” and “high caliber weapons” not turned in by owners to be seized by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
Under the bill, “Any selective fire firearm capable of fully automatic, semiautomatic, or burst fire at the option of the user” would be banned.
“I’m not wedded to the specific principle of confiscating guns,” bill sponsor state Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver (D-Decatur) told WXIA-TV (http://www.11alive.com/story/news/2016/01/14/another-gun-debate-likely-legislature/78796406/). “I am open to an honest discussion – if I’m allowed to have an honest discussion – if there’s a better way.”
A semiautomatic center-fire rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has a folding or telescoping stock or a pistol grip would fall under the definition of “assault weapon” under the proposal. Click here  (http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20152016/154275.pdf)for the complete list of weapons covered by this measure.
It also would ban a semiautomatic rifle or pistol with a fixed magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds.
The bill states, “Any person who possesses any assault weapon or large capacity magazine on July 1, 2016, shall have until October 31, 2016, to accomplish any of the following actions without any prosecution under the law:
   (1) Modify such assault weapon or large capacity magazine to render it permanently inoperable or such that it is no longer an assault weapon or large capacity magazine; or
  (2) Surrender such assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation for destruction pursuant to this part.”




Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 29, 16, 03:32:16:PM
Gun confiscation is always followed by civil rights confiscation!

Democrats are against individual rights and survival!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: caserio1 on 01 29, 16, 03:40:59:PM
you keep on killing our kids and you will pay


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 29, 16, 03:42:59:PM
Caserio loves making false allegations!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Jw2 on 01 29, 16, 03:46:44:PM
So?


I don't see how these "high caliber weapons" are used in self defense of your home.


How many people in Georgia are your customers HK?


Are you accustomed to selling guns across state lines?  Illegally?


Is that your concern?


 


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 29, 16, 03:50:24:PM
Jw2 admits democrats goals are to strip Americans of all gun rights!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Local5th on 01 29, 16, 04:01:06:PM
you keep on killing our kids and you will pay

You need to define "you". Based on statistics nut cases and gang banger's are the ones that kill our kids.

The way to fix it is to grow balls to enforce existing law.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Truman62 on 01 29, 16, 04:04:36:PM
Just shoot them when they come to your door.

Problem solved.

guns solve everything.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 29, 16, 04:05:32:PM
Davik calls for the murder of law enforcement officers!

Davik, there are laws against that!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: caserio1 on 01 29, 16, 04:08:03:PM
you?

gun toters


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Truman62 on 01 29, 16, 04:09:24:PM
An illegal law is NOT legal, so you are within your rights to shoot them if they are performing illegal activities.

Castle Law prevails.

Fed Law (2nd Amendment) Trumps State Law.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 29, 16, 04:13:02:PM
 
An illegal law is NOT legal, so you are within your rights to shoot them if they are performing illegal activities.

Castle Law prevails.

Fed Law (2nd Amendment) Trumps State Law.
Nominated for the stupidest post of the day!

Further proof Davik does not understand what the "Castle Law" does!

Further proof Davik posts out of ignorance!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Byteryder on 01 29, 16, 04:15:31:PM
Quote
Any selective fire firearm capable of fully automatic, semiautomatic, or burst fire at the option of the user

There are very few weapons sold on the market that fit that description.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: HK91-762mm on 01 29, 16, 06:05:49:PM
  Reading the posts of at least 2 posters here convinces me that the Anti gun left has NO clue  None what so ever !

Lacking any Intelligent discussion on the subject !


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Local5th on 01 29, 16, 07:00:47:PM
you?

gun toters

Why do you lump all gun owners in the same group Cas? 99.999% of legal gun owners don't kill anyone. Your root problem is gangs, and released felons. They don't own guns legally.




Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 01 30, 16, 01:19:53:PM
HK91-762mm: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill==And tell me again How no one want to take your guns !!

HK91-762mm: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Georgia Bill. Tell me again that no one wants to take your guns.

It's the same old, bogus, gun-nut argument: HKnuttyone would have us believe the state of Georgia plans to deploy "jack-booted thugs" as "gun collectors" across the width and breath of the Peach State, "confiscating" the guns of "law-abiding citizens" without due cause.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 30, 16, 01:20:43:PM
Given how government has been acting lately I expect it!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Truman62 on 01 30, 16, 01:50:48:PM
And how many times has Govt come to confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens in past 50 years?

Please feel free to list them...


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 30, 16, 02:00:12:PM
Did you forget Ruby Ridge and Waco?

Did you forget gun bans such as the "assault weapons ban"?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 01 30, 16, 02:03:48:PM
(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=220828.0;attach=47226;image) (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=220828.0;attach=47225;image)

HK91-762mm, explain how enacting HB731 would have a detrimental effect on the US Bill of Rights, as the image you provided would have us believe. 


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 01 30, 16, 02:16:05:PM
(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=220828.0;attach=47229;image)

HK91-762mm, truth is, you do speak dipshit; the atrocious grammar and claptrap you continually post here is convincing proof of that obvious fact. But, of course, that's not the issue here.

The Second Amendment reads in its entirety as follows:

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

 Explain how enacting HB731 would be an infringement.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Jw2 on 01 30, 16, 02:17:33:PM
d22 admits nned to strip Americans of gun rights!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 30, 16, 02:18:39:PM
Seems all liberals can do is engage in childish name calling!

How sad!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Jw2 on 01 30, 16, 02:25:08:PM
this is a bullchit right-wing post.

the things youse people get your pink panties all wound up over are special


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: HK91-762mm on 01 30, 16, 02:26:56:PM
And how many times has Govt come to confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens in past 50 years?

Please feel free to list them...

Start with NY add in Kornholfornia--followed By NJ-MD-=-and CT!!

We have told you many times --You must have a short memory !  Dont ask again!


Seems all liberals can do is engage in childish name calling!

Indeed---In Many many cases its the Inner city BLACK elected Lawmakers who start this shit --I have had personal dealings with them on many occasions as I traveled to Albany NY to lobby !!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 01 30, 16, 02:36:29:PM
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Seems all liberals can do is engage in childish name calling[.]

Speaking of childish, apparently DUMB2DUMBER is nothing more than a right-wingnut crybaby; she always plays the bawling card when she realises she can't defend her DUMB arguments. 

How sad!

Sad? Uh-uh. Funny, DUMB2DOOFAS.I'm sitting here laughing at your puerile and DUMB ass at this very moment.

HAHAHA


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 30, 16, 02:37:34:PM
1965hawks doubles down on childish name calling!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 01 30, 16, 02:56:07:PM
D2D: 1965hawks* doubles down on childish name calling!**

D2D, your DUMB ass doubled down on stupidity and ignorance a long time ago, you empty-headed, right-wingnut moron. Now it's either time for your DUMB  little moron ass to take a little nap, or time for your DUMB, childish ass to stick your thumb in your mouth and shut the fuck up, you shitty-diapered little crybaby. Either choice you make would be right.

*Don't begin sentences with numerals,DICKHEAD2DUMBFUCK.

**And don't end statements with exclamation points, you functional illiterate DUMBBELL2DIPSHIT!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: jst-the-fax on 01 30, 16, 03:07:33:PM
HK91 and other freedom lovers,

Fortunately, Georgia is a Free State...and this bill will not see the light of day.  It is more a test...too see if it might fly in less free States...like the rube northeast ones!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 30, 16, 03:11:02:PM
1965hawks doubles down on childish name calling!
                                                                                                                                       


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 01 30, 16, 03:21:49:PM
jst-the-fax: Fortunately, Georgia is a [f]ree tate and this bill will not see the light of day.  It is more a testoo see if it might fly in less free States like the rube northeast ones!

jst-no-fax,

Tell me why you, HKnutcase, and the other extremist gun owners in this forum are always so vehemently opposed to any attempt to enact common-sense gun laws--whether it be local, state, or national .


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 30, 16, 03:23:38:PM
1965hawks doubles down on childish name calling!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 01 30, 16, 03:29:43:PM
HK91-762mm: And how many times has Govt come to confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens in past 50 years? Please feel free to list them[.]

What a coincidence! I was just about to ask you the same question.

So tell me: How many times have firearms been confiscated from law-abiding citizens without due cause?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 01 30, 16, 03:38:06:PM
HK91-762mm: [H]ow many times has Govt come to confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens in past 50 years? Start with NY add in Kornholfornia--followed By NJ-MD-=-and CT!! [sic]

Um...Hknuttyone. You forgot something. Didn't you? Where's your evidence to support your claim that guns were unlawfully confiscated in New York, California(?), New Jersey, Maryland, and Connecticut.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 30, 16, 03:41:37:PM
 
HK91-762mm: [H]ow many times has Govt come to confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens in past 50 years? Start with NY add in Kornholfornia--followed By NJ-MD-=-and CT!! [sic]

Um...Hknuttyone. You forgot something. Didn't you? Where's your evidence to support your claim that guns were unlawfully confiscated in New York, California(?), New Jersey, Maryland, and Connecticut.

Why do you keep changing the terms used?

When New York passes a law banning weapons it becomes lawful and remains so until challenged in the courts and ruled unconstitutional!

Can't you discuss anything honestly?

Why all the shuck and jive?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 01 30, 16, 03:51:49:PM
(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=220828.0;attach=47253;image) (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=220828.0;attach=47252;image)

HKnuttyone, why are you posting irrelevant bullshit? How does a silly anti-Obama placard at a gun-nut show substantiate your preposterous claim that, if enacted, HB731 would somehow be an "infringement" on the rights of law-abiding Georgians? Explain how confiscation of illegally held weapons would be considered "confiscation?"


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: jst-the-fax on 01 30, 16, 03:51:52:PM
The Constitution is irrelevant to loons like hawkie, jw, wmd, wvit, davik and caserio...as their agenda is the total disarmament of law abiding.  BTW...what is your definition of common sense gun control...hawkie? 


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 30, 16, 03:54:12:PM
You have to understand for liberals the government is the master and the people are the slaves!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: HK91-762mm on 01 30, 16, 03:58:43:PM
The Constitution is irrelevant to loons like hawkie, jw, wmd, wvit, davik and caserio...as their agenda is the total disarmament of law abiding.  BTW...what is your definition of common sense gun control...hawkie?


NO--Its Not irrevelavant to them --They love some parts But Hate one Part with a vengeance !!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 01 30, 16, 04:25:03:PM
jst-the-fax(LOL): The Constitution is irrelevant to loons like hawkie, jw, wmd, wvit, davik and caserio[,]as their agenda is the total disarmament of law abiding. [sic]
[
First of all, you clueless ass clown, you convinced me a long time ago that you really don't know a damn thing about the US Constitution. And, furthermore, you babbling about a "total disarmament of [the] law-abiding amounts to nothing more than your parroting an oft-repeated NRA myth.

NRA Myth: "Gun control is a socialist plot to disarm America and "take away our guns."

This tired old lie has recently been dusted off by the NRA. They seem to ignore the fact that many gun control measures are supported by 91% of the American people. A poll in US News and World Report showed that 42% of gun OWNERS support a gun licensing system. There are many notable conservatives who support gun control measures. Conservative commentator George Will has voiced support for banning semi-automatic assault weapons. Another conservative columnist, James Kilpatrick supports limiting the availability of concealable handguns. Former surgeon general C. Everett Koop, advanced his own proposal for licensing gun owners. Conservative columnist Cal Thomas publicly supports some gun control measures. In March of 1991 a well known speaker issued the following statement: "You do know that I'm a member of the NRA, and my position on the right to bear arms is well known. But I want you to know something else, and I am going to say it in clear, unmistakable language. I support the Brady Bill, and I urge Congress to enact it without further delay". The speaker of those words was that famous "liberal" Ronald Reagan. On another occasion, Reagan endorsed the assault weapons ban. These are only a few of the "socialists" who support gun control.


 BTW[,] what is your definition of common sense gun control, hawkie?

I've provided that information to you several times already, you dickhead moron. It's not my fault that your dumb ass lacks the reading comprehension skills to understand what you read.

And you have the audacity to call yourself factual!

Yeah...right, you know-nothing imbecile.

LOL   


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: chuck_curtis on 01 30, 16, 06:20:40:PM
And how many times has Govt come to confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens in past 50 years?

Post Katrina, right off the top of my head.   Some people have very short and/or selective memories.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: jst-the-fax on 01 30, 16, 06:32:30:PM
Hawkie,
Perhaps you've forgotten what Dianne Feinstein wanted?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1_LaBJvI0BI

What if they (democrats) ever get the votes?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: wvit1001 on 01 30, 16, 06:33:28:PM
who was confiscating guns after the hurricane?  wasn't it just some police superintendent?  it wasn't something that was done across the board was it?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: wvit1001 on 01 30, 16, 06:39:08:PM
Brannon LeBouef, a shooting instructor and security consultant, was a New Orleans Marine veteran and reserve police officer who participated in the storm response. By 2013, he’d heard so many fantastical Katrina rumors that it was time to set the record straight. “There was NOT widespread gun confiscation in New Orleans,” he wrote on the Bang Switch, a pro-gun blog sympathetic to the Oath Keepers (current and former military and law enforcement officers who vow to disobey government orders that violate civil rights) and the NRA. Gun-grabbing “was nowhere near as widespread as some would have you believe,” and the confiscations LeBoeuf could confirm “were isolated incidents” done largely by “out of town” cops and soldiers, part of an alphabet soup of agencies without clear missions or lines of responsibility:

I know I encountered countless people with firearms and did not confiscate a single one, neither did any officer I knew or worked with. The only time firearms were seized were when someone was arrested for a crime — no different than before the rain.

In fact, LeBouef wrote, he and 200 other federal officers from an array of agencies were given clear briefing instructions that included an order not to take firearms except as criminal evidence or as part of arrest procedures.


http://www.thebangswitch.com/katrina-gun-confiscation-my-experience/


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: chuck_curtis on 01 30, 16, 07:33:01:PM
Be ever vigilant against the anti-gun nuts.   They are ever present, and real.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 01 30, 16, 10:45:54:PM
Liberals forget before the Heller decision democrats voted to ban gun ownership in many states, counties and cities they control!

Democrats are the gun ban party!

They abuse the law abiding while protecting the criminals that prey upon them!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: HK91-762mm on 01 30, 16, 11:33:01:PM
Here are the 6 sponsors of the Gun Grab Bill !!  AND what do you know They all bez Democraps All Bez Women and 4 of dem bez BLACK !!



Mary Margaret Oliver
   
D - Decatur
(http://www.house.ga.gov/SiteCollectionImages/OliverMary181.jpg)


Stacey Abrams
   
D - Atlanta
(http://www.house.ga.gov/SiteCollectionImages/AbramsStacey58.jpg)



Carolyn Hugley
   
D - Columbus
(http://www.house.ga.gov/SiteCollectionImages/HugleyCarolyn133.jpg)



Pat Gardner
   
D - Atlanta
(http://www.house.ga.gov/SiteCollectionImages/GardnerPat109.jpg)




Dar'shun Kendrick
   
D - Lithonia


(http://www.house.ga.gov/SiteCollectionImages/KendrickDar%27shun770.jpg)
Dee Dawkins-Haigler
   
D - Lithonia
(http://www.house.ga.gov/SiteCollectionImages/Dawkins-HaiglerDee236.jpg)


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 01, 16, 02:51:33:AM
Hawkie,
Perhaps you've forgotten what Dianne Feinstein wanted?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1_LaBJvI0BI


dopie,

There's never been any serious attempt to totally ban firearms in the United States.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 01, 16, 02:55:40:AM
And how many times has Govt come to confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens in past 50 years?

chuck_curtis: Post Katrina, right off the top of my head.   Some people have very short and/or selective memories.

chuck,

There was no "post-Katrina" confiscation of firearms.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 01, 16, 02:24:54:PM
Actually there was a post Katrina gun confiscation ordered by Ray "school bus" Nagin!

Confiscation is not needed on the law abiding as you simply pass a law banning certain weapons and the law abiding will turn them in!

Again, the fruits of such bans are easily seen in New York, Chicago, San Francisco, etc., where criminals rule the streets and the law abiding live in fear!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: wvit1001 on 02 01, 16, 02:26:16:PM
no there wasn't d2.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 01, 16, 02:28:12:PM
Fucking liar!

Judge Carl J. Barbier presided over the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana. Judge Barbier signed the permanent injuncation against the City of New Orleans. The city admitted the firearm confiscations carried out by Nagin and Riley were unconstitutional and illegal.
Under the terms of the injunction, Mayor Ray Nagin, Police Chief Warren Riley and any agents or employees of the City of New Orleans shall:
· cease and desist confiscating lawfully-possessed firearms from all citizens;
· make an aggressive attempt to return any and all firearms which may have been confiscated during the period August 29 to December 31, 2005;
· within one month of the settlement, post on the City website the procedure for the return of confiscated firearms. This notice must include an interactive form for those claiming firearms to fill out, resulting in timely transmission of the information to the appropriate official. All other information on claiming a firearm will also be included on the site.

http://www.infowars.com/new-orleans-mayor-admits-illegal-gun-confiscation/


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: wvit1001 on 02 01, 16, 02:33:47:PM
where did it say anywhere that Nagin ordered anything like that?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 01, 16, 02:34:45:PM
Fucking liar!

Judge Carl J. Barbier presided over the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana. Judge Barbier signed the permanent injuncation against the City of New Orleans. The city admitted the firearm confiscations carried out by Nagin and Riley were unconstitutional and illegal.
Under the terms of the injunction, Mayor Ray Nagin, Police Chief Warren Riley and any agents or employees of the City of New Orleans shall:
· cease and desist confiscating lawfully-possessed firearms from all citizens;
· make an aggressive attempt to return any and all firearms which may have been confiscated during the period August 29 to December 31, 2005;
· within one month of the settlement, post on the City website the procedure for the return of confiscated firearms. This notice must include an interactive form for those claiming firearms to fill out, resulting in timely transmission of the information to the appropriate official. All other information on claiming a firearm will also be included on the site.

http://www.infowars.com/new-orleans-mayor-admits-illegal-gun-confiscation/ (http://www.infowars.com/new-orleans-mayor-admits-illegal-gun-confiscation/)


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 01, 16, 02:54:44:PM
D2D, almost all the firearms seized by the authorities in New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina were eventually returned to their owners, so it's illogical for you and chuck_curtis to argue that those weapons were confiscated.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/04/19/no-police-returning-guns-confiscated-post-katrina.html

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/uniontrib/20081009/news_1n9guns.html


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: wvit1001 on 02 01, 16, 02:56:20:PM
I can't take d2 or infowars seriously.  I just about spit out my drink every time I see d2 link to that idiot site.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 01, 16, 02:57:00:PM
Doesn't matter!

The courts ordered their return not democrats!

Left to democrats those weapons would have either been resold or destroyed!

Can't you be honest about anything?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 01, 16, 03:33:54:PM
D2D: Doesn't matter; the courts ordered their return[,] not [D]emocrats[.]

The property seized was returned to its owners. Thus, in actuality, it wasn't confiscated. That's what matters, D2D.

Left to [D]emocrats[,] those weapons would have had either been resold or destroyed[.]

But that's not what happened, D2D. None of the seized weapons were resold or destroyed.

Your logical fallacy: you're arguing a hypothetical as fact.  Almost all the firearms seized by authorities after Hurricane Katrina devastated much of the Crescent City were eventually returned to their owners. Your argument is pointless, D2D. You're evidently arguing for the sake of arguing, apparently, with no real purpose at all.   

Can't you be honest about anything?

The real question is why D2D doesn't take a seat and shut the fuck up.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 01, 16, 03:34:29:PM
Doesn't matter!

The courts ordered their return not democrats!

Left to democrats those weapons would have either been resold or destroyed!

Can't you be honest about anything?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Local5th on 02 01, 16, 03:40:06:PM
The guns were confiscated.
The were sued for the return of those guns.
And they were ordered to return the guns.

Do you think you can rob a bank and be found innocent if you return the money Hawk? (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/grin.gif)


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: HK91-762mm on 02 01, 16, 03:40:58:PM
 AND the guns were so poorly kept that many were ruined


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 01, 16, 04:13:19:PM
To: HK91-762mm

Have you forgotten? In reply #19 I asked you o explain how Georgia's enacting HB731 would result in the slippery slope you implied in your initial post of this thread. And in reply #20 of this thread I asked you to explain how enacting HB731 would be a violation of the Second Amendment, the insinuation you made in reply #13. Then, in reply#15, I asked why you were avoiding the issue by posting an irrelevant image of a cartoon character rather than responding to my requests. (By the way, HK91-762mm, it goes without saying that I never really expected you to respond, so your failure to respond did not come as a surprise to me and certainly didn't disappoint me. needless to say, you lived up to my expectations.)

So let's do this: Why don't you point out specifically what it is in Georgia House Bill 731 that would be detrimental to the US Bill of Rights, especially the Second Amendment.

http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20152016/154275.pdf


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 01, 16, 04:33:54:PM
The courts ordered their return not democrats!

Left to democrats those weapons would have either been resold or destroyed!

Can't you be honest about anything?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 01, 16, 04:45:34:PM
D2D, I'm not wasting my time arguing--and continually debunking--an irrelevant issue. The original issue of this thread is HK91-762mm's bogus claim about Georgia's House Bill 731. Remember? Either you discuss that here are go to another thread and show you incredible stupidity and ignorance to the discussants there. I'm done wasting my time with your DUMB ass here. 


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 01, 16, 04:46:53:PM
You have debunked nothing!

I have debunked all your claims!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 01, 16, 07:23:55:PM
D2D: You have debunked nothing! I have debunked all your claims!

You've done no such thing, you delusional DUMMY. All you've done here is what your DUMB ass always does--allow me to make a damn  fool of your DUMB ass and show the forum just how fucking stupid and ignorant your DUMB ass is. Take a seat and shut the fuck up, DIMWIT2DELUSIONAL.

LOL


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 01, 16, 07:28:51:PM
You have debunked nothing!

I have debunked all your claims!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 02, 16, 05:45:55:AM
(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/circus-clown-1577725.jpg) (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwij4_D98djKAhUMQCYKHZHlD9QQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dreamstime.com%2Froyalty-free-stock-photo-circus-clown-image1577725&psig=AFQjCNGo7SaRRxd2CRAs4z222AzaTd5tmQ&ust=1454495984427106)

I've debunked all your claims!



Yeah...right, D2D, suuure you have, whatever you say... you delusional ass clown.

HAHAHAHAHAHA


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: jst-the-fax on 02 02, 16, 11:23:42:AM
Hawkie,
How many time must I debunk your assertion, that no one is attempting to take my rifle...when Dianne Feinstein is saying that very thing?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1_LaBJvI0BI


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: HK91-762mm on 02 02, 16, 05:27:22:PM
JTF--Hawks Fully Knows the agenda!,,,,Esplaninn it over and over is a waste of time !!!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 03, 16, 06:42:55:AM
jst-the-IDIOT,

There's never been any serious attempt to enact a total ban of firearms in the United States. Your argument amounts to nothing more than the usual NRA fear-mongering. Trotting out a video of a US senator advocating a ban of a certain firearm is not proof that she wants to ban all guns in this country. Is it?

And for you, HK91-762mm, have you forgotten?  Stop wasting time!  Why haven't and responded to my request that you defend the claims you've made in this thread (and elsewhere)?   Instead of your posting, to jst-th-fax, silly comments about me, explain why you're afraid to defend your argument(s).


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 02 03, 16, 07:01:56:AM
Dems finally honest about gun control, their ultimate goal is confiscation.

They are intentionally doing this to create a violent reaction.






A 12 gauge shotgun is the last gun that will ever be banned, it is the most common gun in the US.

Each single shot from that shotgun with a standard 3 inch magnum shell with 00 buck has 15 lethal pellets (*3 1/2 inch shells have 18 each). Each pellet weighs the same as a standard bullet shot from a AR 15 assault rifle. Each shot will spread out fast in a crowd thus potentially hitting 15 people per shot. 00 buck has a diameter of .330" (1/3 of an inch) while a 223 has a diameter of .224" (1/4 of an inch)

Guns hold from 5 to 10 shells up through 18 shells depending on the type.

These guns can be pump action or semi automatic.

That means that in a large crowd you could hit more people with a shotgun in one shot than any other weapon.

With one loading you could shoot from 180 to 324 large bullet sized pellets in about 5 to 10 seconds into a crowd depending on the gun, if shooting from above (building, window) they could all be fatal head shots. There are 30 rounds per typical AR 15 or AK 47 "assault" rifle. One shotgun in 5 seconds could kill more people than an "assault" rifle with 6-8 mags.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 03, 16, 07:34:03:AM
To: sweetwater5s9
in re: Reply #71

Your logical fallacy: Non Sequitur (Latin: "it does not follow")--a conclusion or statement  that does not logically follow from  the previous argument or statement.

You began by arguing that the goal of Democrats is to confiscate guns (the trite "they-want-to-take-away-my-guns" argument). But you concluded it with a rambling red herring about the differences between of a shotgun and an assault rifle.

Your post was incredibly stupid, sweetwater5s9. But, of course, they always are. 


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 02 03, 16, 08:28:23:AM
Dems finally honest about gun control, their ultimate goal is confiscation.

They are intentionally doing this to create a violent reaction.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 02 03, 16, 08:30:05:AM
A 12 gauge shotgun is the last gun that will ever be banned and it is the most common gun in the US.

Each single shot from that shotgun with a standard 3 inch magnum shell with 00 buck has 15 lethal pellets (*3 1/2 inch shells have 18 each). Each pellet weighs the same as a standard bullet shot from a AR 15 assault rifle. Each shot will spread out fast in a crowd thus potentially hitting 15 people per shot. 00 buck has a diameter of .330" (1/3 of an inch) while a 223 has a diameter of .224" (1/4 of an inch)

Guns hold from 5 to 10 shells up through 18 shells depending on the type.

That means that in a large crowd you could hit more people with a shotgun in one shot than any other weapon.

With one loading you could shoot from 180 to 324 large bullet sized pellets in about 5 to 10 seconds into a crowd depending on the gun, if shooting from above (building, window) they could all be fatal head shots. There are 30 rounds per typical AR 15 or AK 47 "assault" rifle. One shotgun in 5 seconds could kill more people than an "assault" rifle with 6-8 mags.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: HK91-762mm on 02 03, 16, 08:43:22:AM
Each single shot from that shotgun with a standard 3 inch magnum shell with 00 buck has 15 lethal pellets (*3 1/2 inch shells have 18 each). Each pellet weighs the same as a standard bullet shot from a AR 15 assault rifle. Each shot will spread out fast in a crowd thus potentially hitting 15 people per shot. 00 buck has a diameter of .330" (1/3 of an inch) while a 223 has a diameter of .224" (1/4 of an inch)



OH Now Sweet------You just have just made the case for banning DEADLY MULTI PROJECTILE FIRING WEAPONS!!!

OOhh  I can see the CRY now--These deadly Guns fire multiple projectiles at one pull of the trigger  Spreading death and destruction for many feet !!  These evil weapons were designed to kill as many as possible in a crowd at one time!!


WE MUST BAN THEM NOW -DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN !!!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Jw2 on 02 03, 16, 08:47:56:AM
I just want to deprive sweetiepie and HK of their guns.

Based exclusively on their aesopsretreat posts...sweetiepie is mentally ill and I'm convinced that HK sells guns illegally.  both reasons to deny them access to guns.

if they're lucky, society will take their guns from them before their guns take their lives.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: william H on 02 03, 16, 08:52:31:AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/FyfkQkchlu4


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 03, 16, 09:08:30:AM
To: sweetwater5s9 and HK91-762mm

Your babbling about the operations of shotguns and assault rifles has absolutely nothing to do with Georgia's House Bill 731. It's nothing more than an irrelevant distraction away from the main issue--you know, a Red Herring.

Point out exactly what it is in HB 731 that has caused your opposition to it. And then explain why you are  disagree with it. Discuss the legislative bill itself and stop your irrelevant rigmarole.


http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display/20152016/HB/731



 


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 03, 16, 10:34:01:AM
1965hawks says the bill is irrelevant because it proves his claims dead wrong!

Bear in mind 1965hawks believes so long as one American owns a gun they are not banned!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 03, 16, 10:56:07:AM
D2D: 1965hawks [sic]  says the bill is irrelevant because it proves his claims dead wrong!

Evidently, D2D is up to her old tricks: babbling nonsense about me (logical fallacy: ad hominem) rather than discussing the issue at hand (avoiding the issue).

Bear in mind 1965hawks believes so long as one American owns a gun they are not banned!

Here's what I believe, D2D: I believe you have the absurd notion that refuting claims I've never made makes you sound intelligent. Right?

Yeah...right.

HAHA


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 03, 16, 11:00:16:AM
Another non-response from 1965hawks!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 02 03, 16, 11:16:48:AM
Hands and blunt objects murder more than all of the rifles and shotguns in the U.S. as the FBI has repeatedly reported.   The left anti-gun nut wing should be embarrassed.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 03, 16, 11:26:38:AM
sweetwater5s9:Hands and blunt objects murder more than blah blah blah blah ....

Stop trying to change the subject, sweetnut. That's not the issue at hand. Hhis is:


http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display/20152016/HB/731

Remember?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 02 03, 16, 11:28:00:AM
Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill


Hands and blunt objects murder more than all of the rifles and shotguns in the U.S. as the FBI has repeatedly reported.   The left's anti-gun nuts wing should be embarrassed with their dishonesty.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 03, 16, 11:29:01:AM
Stung by effective arguments, 1965hawks desperately tries to deny their relevance!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: caserio1 on 02 03, 16, 11:31:19:AM
guns have only one purpose, to kill

hands and blunt objects have other purposes

why should I have to tell you that?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 03, 16, 11:32:21:AM
Caserio, if that were true every time a gun was fired a person would die!

Is that the case?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 02 03, 16, 11:32:57:AM
guns have only one purpose, to kill


Already proven otherwise so no need to keep lying, Cas.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 03, 16, 11:55:43:AM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRR6uSDCIyZKDnaRyiEwy_GBBffgbmg15hWsjtIuvYpRdBfuAhNig)


Caserio, if that were true every time a gun was fired a person would die! Is that the case?

No. That's not the case, you shit-for-brains ass clown. That would only be true if a person were actually struck and killed by a bullet fired from a gun.

Take a seat and shut the fuck, moron. And stop trying to pretend your DUMB ass is an intelligent human being--or as your pal WWV10MHZ would say, a "normal" person.

LOL


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 03, 16, 11:57:07:AM
Having lost the argument 1965hawks resorts to profane and childish name calling!

Pitiful!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: wvit1001 on 02 03, 16, 12:04:04:PM
I don't see where you've really been arguing anything d2, all you've done is try hard to keep from actually discussing the topic.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: jst-the-fax on 02 03, 16, 12:11:28:PM
hawkie,

Is this you or wvit?

(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRR6uSDCIyZKDnaRyiEwy_GBBffgbmg15hWsjtIuvYpRdBfuAhNig)




Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: jst-the-fax on 02 03, 16, 12:14:14:PM
hawki

forgot the picture...so again is this you or wvit


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 03, 16, 01:46:39:PM
wvit1001: I don't see where you've really been arguing anything d2, all you've done is try hard to keep from actually discussing the topic.

You noticed that too. Huh, wvit1001?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 03, 16, 06:12:27:PM
Childish name calling is all he has!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: caserio1 on 02 03, 16, 06:19:00:PM
guns are strictly for killing

they are rated for killing power

and

ease of killing as many as possible in as short a period

with as little effort as possible and

as low a cost as possible


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 03, 16, 06:21:49:PM
Nope, guns are rated for accuracy!

Bullets and ammunition are rated for accuracy and the ability to perform a one shot stop!

Killing doesn't enter into it!

If what you claim were true every time a gun was fired a person would die!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Jw2 on 02 03, 16, 06:27:33:PM
add D2D to the list of people to confiscate guns from.


any psychiatrist would cite D2D's clearly delusional mind set and determine no one with the mental level of D2D should be allowed to posess a gun.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 03, 16, 06:28:51:PM
Jw2 demonstrates why democrats should never be allowed power!

They would abuse it without a thought!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Jw2 on 02 03, 16, 06:49:53:PM
thank you D2D for demonstration why you should be added to the list of prohibited persons.

the police should be breaking down your trailer home door and seize every weapon inside.   


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: HK91-762mm on 02 03, 16, 07:02:29:PM
  Fact Is --This Bill is Sponsored BY 6 Women Of the 6 ==4 Are Black ,,  Its women and Mostly Blacks against the Good people !  and This area Of Ga bust be a ghetto  --Is it where Hank Johnson is from !


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 03, 16, 07:02:59:PM
Jw2 demonstrates why democrats should never be allowed power!

They would abuse it without a thought!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 02 04, 16, 10:04:27:AM
Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill


Hands and blunt objects kill more people than all of the rifles and shotguns in the U.S. including semi-auto "assault" rifles as the FBI has repeatedly reported.   


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Jw2 on 02 04, 16, 05:59:37:PM
Police raided home and confiscated this person's gun...aggravated unlawful use of a weapon.

along with their child porn and dope. 

there are those who say that's typical of a gun owner, eh?

http://patch.com/illinois/crystallake/child-pornography-drugs-loaded-firearm-found-police-search-fox-lake-apartment?utm_source=alert-breakingnews&utm_medium=email&utm_term=police%20%26%20fire&utm_campaign=alert (http://patch.com/illinois/crystallake/child-pornography-drugs-loaded-firearm-found-police-search-fox-lake-apartment?utm_source=alert-breakingnews&utm_medium=email&utm_term=police%20%26%20fire&utm_campaign=alert)



 


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Jw2 on 02 04, 16, 06:02:45:PM
There are those who say...this guy's a great customer prospect for HK...

http://patch.com/illinois/geneva/s/fl74e/gang-member-convicted-of-pulling-gun-on-aurora-cops?utm_source=alert-breakingnews&utm_medium=email&utm_term=police%20%26%20fire&utm_campaign=alert (http://patch.com/illinois/geneva/s/fl74e/gang-member-convicted-of-pulling-gun-on-aurora-cops?utm_source=alert-breakingnews&utm_medium=email&utm_term=police%20%26%20fire&utm_campaign=alert)


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Local5th on 02 04, 16, 06:53:16:PM
There are those who say...this guy's a great customer prospect for HK...

Yup. And if you have underage girls slick Willie is your prospective client.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: HK91-762mm on 02 04, 16, 06:57:34:PM
  JW--hes a Funny guy!!

  For all the good Reviews I have gotten from BATFE  and the Police officers who have come to me to Buy or sell firearms tells me Jw is totally full of shit !!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Jw2 on 02 04, 16, 09:07:55:PM
I'm allowed.


But, the red state gubberment of Alaska is seizing guns

Troopers: Tip leads to seizure of drugs, guns, cash in Tok (http://www.adn.com/article/20160204/troopers-tip-leads-seizure-drugs-guns-cash-tok)


More than $35,000 in illegal drugs and more than 30 firearms were seized by troopers in Tok on Tuesday, with one suspect in custody and charges filed against a second.





guns, drugs and money always appear to go together.

how many of your gun sales ended up serving illegal activity?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 04, 16, 11:24:45:PM
"When troopers raided the home later Tuesday they arrested a convicted felon, 48-year-old Tok resident Floyd J. Stuck, on second-degree, third-degree and fourth-degree counts of misconduct involving controlled substances, as well as second-degree and third-degree counts of weapons misconduct. Troopers did not arrest a woman at the home but forwarded “numerous drug and weapons charges” against her to the Fairbanks district attorney’s office."

Another prohibited person proving gun control laws only control the law  abiding!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 05, 16, 11:35:56:AM
To: D2D

in re: Reply #109


"Another prohibited person proving gun control laws only control the law  abiding!" [sic]

Really?

D2D, if, as you continually argue, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding, explain why Mr. Stuck and his female companion were charged weapons violations. Are you referring to persons like them when you're babbling about "the law-abiding" being "punished" by gun-control laws?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 05, 16, 02:40:45:PM
Did any gun control law do as advertised and prevent prohibited persons having firearms?

No!

All gun control laws do is give prosecutors additional charges to fill and then plea bargain away to avoid the cost of trial!

In the end, only the law abiding are truly effected by such laws!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 05, 16, 03:18:40:PM
D2D: Did any gun control law do as advertised and prevent prohibited persons having firearms? No!

D2D, where did you lame-brained gun loons get the absurd notion that gun laws don't work because they don't prevent a person from getting their hands on a firearm? No law (including a gun law) has ever prevented something from happening, so why do you gun loons continue to argue that gun laws don't work because they don't prevent "prohibited persons from obtaining firearms; they don't prevent crime; they don't prevent suicides; they don't prevent mass shooting, or any of the other illogical arguments you gun nuts trot out as "evidence" that gun control and gun-control laws don't work.   

All gun control laws do is give prosecutors additional charges to fill and then plea bargain away to avoid the cost of trial[.]

No, D2D. Truth is, all your DUMB ass is doing here is babbling more nonsense that further proves your stupidity and ignorance, DUMB2DOOFAS.

In the end, only the law abiding are truly effected by such laws.

No, you DUMBED-down, NRA stooge. Gun laws apply to everybody--criminals and the law-abiding. That's why Mr. Stuck and his female companion were stuck (no pun intended) with weapons charges. Remember?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 05, 16, 03:19:34:PM
Then you admit no gun control law is capable of preventing any gun crime?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: HK91-762mm on 02 05, 16, 06:26:22:PM
  Just Like Laws against shooting people and drugs === Criminals Ignore them all !!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 05, 16, 07:32:03:PM
HK91-762mm: Just Like Laws against shooting people and drugs === Criminals Ignore them all !![sic]



I'm always amused by the illogical, unstated, premiss of that favourite gun-nut meme: since criminals don't obey laws, there shouldn't be any laws at all.

And by the way, HKnuttyone, when is your dumb ass going to stop playing with your arsenal and learn to properly use the written word to express yourself in English? Your grammar is truly atrocious!



   


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 05, 16, 07:36:42:PM
Yet you refuse criminal control in favor of gun control which only harms the law abiding!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 05, 16, 08:11:15:PM
DUMB2DOOFAS, why do you refuse to accept the fact that you lost this argument a long time ago? Why do you refuse to accept the fact that your DUMB ass is too fucking stupid to debate me? Why don't you do what you should've done a long time ago: Take a seat and shut the fuck up!

HAHAHAHAHAHA


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 06, 16, 03:14:52:AM
Why do you think childish name calling is effective refutation or even debunking?


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: Local5th on 02 06, 16, 08:23:13:AM
I'm always amused by the illogical, unstated, premiss of that favourite gun-nut meme: since criminals don't obey laws, there shouldn't be any laws at all.

No law is effective when the possibility of reward is greater than the risk.

Our problem today is the ability to plea bargain does much to reduce risk associated with commission of a crime. As a result, for the most part, crime does pay.



Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 02 06, 16, 08:33:42:AM
Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill

That it is an unconstitutional taking of property; that it irrationally treats semi-automatics more harshly than true machine guns; that it is an unconstitutional application of the taxing power that grounds the National Firearms Act; that it attempts to ban guns in common use in violation of D.C. v. Heller; that it attempts to ban the quintessential militia weapon which seems protected even under Justice Stevens' dissent in Heller; that it will drive the targeted guns into the black market; and, that it will trigger militant resistance.


http://law.fordham.edu/28706.htm (http://law.fordham.edu/28706.htm)


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: jst-the-fax on 02 06, 16, 08:52:44:PM
Again...since Georgia is a free state...this bill has a snowballs chance in Miaimi of passing!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: HK91-762mm on 02 06, 16, 09:45:56:PM
Again...since Georgia is a free state...this bill has a snowballs chance in Miaimi of passing!

Wvitt and the rest of the stooges say ---NO ONE WANTS TO TAKE YOUR GUNS !!

That is the Point of this thread--6 Women 4 of them niggers from the Ghettos around Atlanta are trying to pass a BILL that will do Just as we have said --Libs want to ban guns and confiscate Them !





that it attempts to ban guns in common use in violation of D.C. v. Heller; that it attempts to ban the quintessential militia weapon which seems protected even under Justice Stevens' dissent in Heller; that it will drive the targeted guns into the black market; and, that it will trigger militant resistance.


Yes sir-- take the AR15 the hottest selling rifle in the USA at this moment !! the quintessential militia weapon!!!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 08, 16, 07:18:04:AM
HK91-762mm: Again, since Georgia is a free state, this bill has a snowballs [sic] chance in Miaimi [sic] of passing.

HK91-762mm, since when did living in a free state forfeit one's right to live in a safe state?

That is the [p]oint of this thread--6 Women[,] 4 of them niggers[,] from the Ghettos around Atlanta are blah blah blah....

HK91-762mm, thanks for making the point (again) that you're a racist asshole. Take a seat and shut the fuck up! You're stinking up the place (again)..




















 


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 02 08, 16, 08:43:35:AM
Nicholas J. Johnson (http://law.fordham.edu/faculty/nicholasjohnson.htm), professor of law at Fordham University -- one of the country's most respected authorities on the Second Amendment -- puts this overreaching bill into perspective on the Library of Law and Liberty website:
 

Johnson writes. "That it is an unconstitutional taking of property; that it irrationally treats semi-automatics more harshly than true machine guns; that it is an unconstitutional application of the taxing power that grounds the National Firearms Act; that it attempts to ban guns in common use in violation of D.C. v. Heller;  that it attempts to ban the quintessential militia weapon which seems protected even under Justice Stevens' dissent in Heller; that it will drive the targeted guns into the black market; and, that it will trigger militant resistance."


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: HK91-762mm on 02 08, 16, 10:38:14:AM
 This Bill Will not Pass--Ga is a gun friendly state,,But It still furthers the proof that liberals want and desire gun bans --AND CONFISCATIONS,,Given the chance they would do Just as these 6 women call for,,,Hank Johnson [D] Ga .[Of Guam will tip over fame] has attacked the NRA ON Public house floor !


The same thing in Other Anti gun rights  Ca,,NJ,,NY,MA, CT,  And in Liberal cities Like shitcago !


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: wvit1001 on 02 08, 16, 10:45:15:AM
There's no real reason for our citizens to own fake military weapons just so goofy gun nuts can play soldier on the weekends.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: wvit1001 on 02 08, 16, 10:49:03:AM
gun wacko's just keep pushing the boundaries -

(http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/lt/lt_cache/thumbnail/615/img/photos/2015/06/02/a1/da/Cooley_and_daughter.jpg)

A man carrying a rifle inside the Atlanta airport wasn’t breaking any laws, but he did raise a few eyebrows, including those of some Atlanta police officers.

Jim Cooley says he carried his gun through the terminal when he and his wife went to drop his daughter off for her flight. He says he knew he wasn’t breaking any rules because he has a full understanding of Georgia’s gun laws.

“You can carry in unsecured areas of the airport. Past TSA, never,” Cooley said.

That’s exactly what he did. Cooley carried his AR-15 fully loaded with a 100-round drum through parts of the terminal.


http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/man-raises-eyebrows-carrying-gun-through-atlanta-a/nmTFS/


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: wvit1001 on 02 08, 16, 10:50:41:AM
Even if something did happen would you want this old nut to start firing off .223 rounds in a airport full of people?   


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 08, 16, 06:34:14:PM
 
HK91-762mm, since when did living in a free state forfeit one's right to live in a safe state?

Name a safe state!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 08, 16, 06:57:30:PM
D2D: Name a safe state!

D2Deflecter, tell us what is safe about living in a nation that leads all the world's other advanced nations in gun-related violence. If you, D2D, would compare gun deaths in the US with gun deaths in Japan, Australia, or the UK it would be extremely difficult for you (or anybody else, for that matter) to convince any rational person that the United States could be considered a safe country.







 


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 08, 16, 07:16:55:PM
As I thought, you cannot!

The fact is there is no safe state on this planet no matter how draconian the gun laws!


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: 1965hawks on 02 17, 16, 08:44:06:PM
D2D: The fact is there is no safe state on this planet no matter how draconian the gun laws[.]

D2Deluded, if there's no place that's safe on this planet, no matter what gun laws are in effect, then explain why you hold the illogical belief that your carrying a firearm--whether concealed or openly--will guarantee your safety.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill
Post by: D2D on 02 17, 16, 10:32:40:PM
Again, you lie about me!

I simply don't want to place my life in the hands of a criminal!

Why do you insist I do so!