lessee if you can grasp this:

the ONLY function of a gun is to kill

...and the ONLY function of a leftist is to destroy America.

yer fulla shit

oops

both fulla shit

gun regulation is a fact of life in our country and the Supreme Court has upheld the idea of background checks and registration. 

common sense national gun regulations are in the works and will be implemented in our country.

Yup. You both are.

oh really?

what is another function ?

I'm not sure why the gun nuts are against a system of comprehensive national background checks for all gun sales.  why would anyone be against this?

I'm not sure why the gun nuts are against a system of comprehensive national background checks for all gun sales.  why would anyone be against this?

I doubt many have a problem with NICS checks. Question is, do you really think criminals will run their gun purchases through such a check?

                                                                                                                                       

criminals don't pay any attention to laws against theft either but I don't see you arguing for getting rid of laws concerning theft.

of course they're against it

rational thinking is not compatible with love for a hunk of steel

criminals don't pay any attention to laws against theft either but I don't see you arguing for getting rid of laws concerning theft.

We are talking purchases, not theft. Stay on tract.


                                                                                                                                       

just because criminals don't follow the laws doesn't mean we shouldn't have laws local. 

and the reason there's no national concealed carry permit is because the various state laws are all over the place on requirements and the states won't honor each others permits.  federal gun regulations would make a national permit easier to argue for.

we have some federal regulation, but for the most part regulation on gun sales and carry requirements are left to the states.

Remember.......  ONLY GUNS KILL!!!!!

GUNS MUST BE REGISTERED/CONTROLLED/BANNED/CONFISCATED BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONLY THING THAT KILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(The Libs/Dems/Fags/Leftists/Girlie-men SAY SO!!!!!!!)

altering my post merely proves me right

or else you would not alter it

Definition Education

Illegal    -    A Sick Bird .





BOB   RI   123

What about my cross bows ?



BOB  RI   123

first you will apologize for altering my post

Kids accidentally shot people 5 times a week this year on average (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/31/kids-accidentally-shot-people-5-times-a-week-this-year-on-average/)


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-children-accidental-shootings-20151231-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-children-accidental-shootings-20151231-story.html)

• Jacob Allan, 13, was walking down the stairs (http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2015/12/21/mississippi-fatal-gun-accident/77689228/) of his grandmother's house with his hunting rifle when he tripped and fell, causing the gun to discharge, shooting him in the head. He was taken to a local hospital and died later that day.

• A pair of grandparents were babysitting their three-year-old grandson (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/toddler-3-shoots-grandfather-gun-reports-article-1.2282528) when the boy found a .380-caliber semiautomatic handgun on a nightstand next to the bed he was napping in, and shot himself in the head with it. He died two days later at an area hospital.

• A three-year-old girl was trying to get a snack out of a cabinet (http://fox4kc.com/2015/07/16/family-child-killed-in-kcmo-shooting-incident-was-victim-of-an-accident/) at her father's house when a handgun that was stashed on the shelf fell and discharged when it hit the floor, shooting the girl in the stomach. The girl was taken to a local hospital and died a few hours later.

Cops: Mom shot, killed daughter mistaken for intruder (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi80vv6lofKAhVBKyYKHRRwApgQqQIIIigAMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.orlandosentinel.com%2Fnews%2Fbreaking-news%2Fos-mom-accidentally-shot-killed-daughter-20151230-story.html&usg=AFQjCNEv-XzjQNoefIm61pknI-_Y_P1pxQ&sig2=HA7QMjCBhlTpZ3-KxCiSXg)

Florida man shoots, kills self during gun cleaning demo (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi80vv6lofKAhVBKyYKHRRwApgQ-AsIKCgBMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Fflorida-man-shoots-kills-self-during-gun-cleaning-demonstration%2F&usg=AFQjCNHPm0uK82En_evw7ghKlN65k50plA&sig2=7BfAvhH0Ovqlt-dDDiHOcg)

seems that anyone with a gun is dangerous to themselves, their friends and their family.






Family: 17-year-old shot to death by a friend (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi80vv6lofKAhVBKyYKHRRwApgQqQIINSgAMAY&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.firstcoastnews.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Flocal%2F2015%2F12%2F05%2Fpolice-17-year-old-shot-and-killed-in-jacksonvilles-west-side%2F76847166%2F&usg=AFQjCNEOGaOnnBw3M6IjA3FPgw7wWB1Tng&sig2=fRqdw4qBcy2eKkdJ-M-BcA)

guns have only one function .......to kill

it does men feel more manly but

that's because they now have the power to kill

This is not the first time in Central Florida  (http://www.business-standard.com/search?type=news&q=Florida)where a relative has been mistaken as an intruder in a fatal shooting.
 In June, a 16-year-old Ocoee High School student was fatally shot by his brother in their Pine Hills home, according to the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

and still floridians equate manhood with the gun (penis shaped and hard)

Penis Shaped, Cas?  Maybe you need to see a doctor

Six things that kill MORE people than guns:

http://www.simplefactsplainarguments.com/2013/01/6-things-that-kill-more-people-than-guns.html

now hear this!

the gun has only ONE function............to kill

pretty funny

there are those who say,,,Local has more than one thing to do with a gun.

Yup. I use a gun for target practice and predator control.

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If guns are banned/confiscated, would killings stop? ? ? ? ? ?       DUH!!!!!

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guns have only ONE purpose ...........to kill

owning one sometimes rouses this urge in non entity humans

and once is too often

For the first 150-years of the existence of the U.S.A., the right of citizens to carry arms was so fundamental it was not considered worthy of debate. The Founders considered their right to keep and bear arms the ultimate and most fundamental guarantee of life and freedom against crime, foreign invasion, and as a last resort, a despotic government.

No knowledgeable American–from the founding of the United States through the mid-1950’s–would have questioned that the Second Amendment to the Constitution meant exactly what it says, "… the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." This was not a right of a Militia. The "Militia" was–and under current law still is–all able-bodied adults, who are expected to keep their privately-owned arms similar to what is used by the military at the time.

Thomas Jefferson said, "The God who gave us life, gave us freedom to defend life." Being armed was more than a right. It was a moral obligation of citizenship.

In all but two states of the U.S., law-abiding civilians who apply, submit to a police-check, and demonstrate reasonable firearms-proficiency and knowledge of the law, may receive a license to carry a concealed firearm. Contrary to threats by gun-control advocates, this has not resulted in "blood in the streets" or any increase of crime or gun-violence. In all U.S. jurisdictions where lawful concealed carry is possible, violence and violent crime has decreased significantly.


The concept that free people have the right to defend themselves is as old as civilization. Under ancient Greek, Roman, and Anglo-Saxon law, the ceremony of freeing a slave included placing a weapon in his hands "as a symbol of his new rank." Aristotle wrote in Politics 68 that "true citizenship included the right to possess arms, and that armed tyrants disarmed the oppressed." So what results from our "more advanced" thinking of the 20th Century? Conservatively, in excess of 100-million defenseless unarmed-civilians were rounded up and exterminated by various governments.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property. Guns in the hands of honest citizens preserve freedom and dignity — from both criminal and government predators. And, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.

The Founders of America had it right. With guns, we are "citizens." Without them, we are "subjects." Please spread this civil-rights message — the right to life — to all of your friends, and especially all your government servants. You don’t work for them. They work for you.

http://bearingarms.com/a-brief-history-of-the-right-to-selfdefense/ (http://bearingarms.com/a-brief-history-of-the-right-to-selfdefense/)

Only man kills for the sake of killing cas. Hell, even animals are smarter than that.

guns have only ONE purpose

that is to kill

no other
\
none

Hunting.

Target Practice.

Collecting.

Competition (Olympics).

Personal & Property Protection.

Freedom from an Oppressive Government.

Paper Weight.

Cas was debunked on that lie, long ago... 

target practice is for being able to KILL faster and cheaper

Target practice enables the shooter to wound/disable a violent threatening criminal rather than kill them.

It's the humane thing to do.

the gun is designed to kill

 

And this is a Bad thing --HOW==>???







Arguing with Cas --wvitt--davic--JW  and hawks is Like Mud wrestling with a pig !!! and about as useful  !!

arguing with cas ?

you asking a question

which cas won't answer

is an argument?

now you see why cas woan answer you

cASS-HOLE....  Are you too stupid to realize that your EVERY POST proves you are a TOTAL FOOL? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Things other than guns that are used to kill:

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Caserio forgets firearms are used as a deterrent and an effective one at that!

Mystery of the Ages!!!!!

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Because it's easier to solve your domestic problems with a handy gun.



Brooklyn Teen Kills Mother And Mother’s Boyfriend Then Celebrates New Years Eve



a gun in the home dramatically increases the odds of injury or death, than in a home without a gun.

Jizz-Wanker2.....

So, the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNERS SHOULD BE PUNISHED because some urban minority goes wacko and kills two people? ? ? ? ? ? ?

You Libs/Dems/Fags/Leftists/Girlie-men/Wussies are TOTAL IDIOTS!!!!!  Grow up and grow some big-boy balls!!!!!

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Another fake link from Jw2!

MISCELLANEOUS STATISTICS
Number of firearms in America: Between 223,000,000 (527) and 290,000,000 (528)
Number of firearm owning households: At least 50,600,000 (529)
Projected firearm owning households in America: 60-85 million
Number of guns used in crimes: 450,000 (530)
Percentage of guns used in crimes: 0.09%

(527) Guns Used in Crime, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Marianne W. Zawitz, 1995.
(528) Small Arms Survey, Graduate Institute of International Studies, 2008
(529) Surveys show a “reported” ownership rate of 46%, but it is universally believed that these surveys under-reported
    (i.e., people that own firearms don’t want to admit so to a pollster). This is validated by surveys performed by the
    National Opinion Research Center. They perform their surveys face-to-face at the respondent’s home, and routinely
    have reported gun ownership rates 3-6% lower than telephone based surveys.
(530) Ibid.

Proving Jw2's claims about guns in the home is utter nonsense!

it's not "only guns kill"

it's "guns only kill"......................nothing else

More nonsense form Caserio!

If that were true every time a gun was fired someone would be killed!

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guns have only ONE purpose

to kill

More nonsense form Caserio!

If that were true every time a gun was fired someone would be killed!

Some of the many uses for guns:

Hunting.

Target Practice.

Collecting.

Competition (Olympics).

Personal & Property Protection.

Freedom from an Oppressive Government.

Paper Weight.

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Antifreeze is commonly used by women to murder their victims, especially males.

https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002751.htm

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We need background checks on the buyers!!!  Ban it!!!  Register the owners!!!!  Confiscate it!!!

Murder rate in Country where gun ownership is BANNED is NINE TIMES the murder rate in neighboring Countries!!!

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/08/28/harvard-gun-study-concludes-gun-bans-dont-reduce-the-murder-rate/

Harvard Study finds that gun control masures are counterproductive.

http://smallgovtimes.com/2014/09/harvard-study-reveals-gun-control-counterproductive/

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no no no

not only guns kill

guns are only for killing

gawd yer thick

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Guns are nothing more than safety tools!

Do you drive without wearing a seat belt?

Do you operate power tools without wearing hearing and eye protection?

Do you pull food out of a 400 degree oven with your bare hands?

If you do, you are an idiot!

Guns are protection against violent criminals liberals insist must be out in society!

Exhibition shooting has a very long history. Some of the first recorded exhibition shooters were Mongol warriors, who would show off their equestrian and archery skills by shooting at targets from the back of a galloping horse.

Exhibition shooting or trick shooting is a sport in which a marksman performs various feats of skill, frequently using non-traditional targets.

With the advent of rifling came accurate firearms, and many exhibition shooters turned to these, forming the beginnings of western exhibition shooting.  Standard exhibition shooting included:

Cutting a playing card in half with a rifle bullet at long ranges

Shooting cigarettes in half while they were held by volunteers

Shooting a dime tossed in the air, at range of 90 feet

Shooting long strings of targets tossed in the air,  4472 in a single day.


Ed McGivern was an exhibition shooter and firearms trainer who specialized in the revolver. He still holds a number of speed shooting records (a number of which have been challenged, and some broken, by modern IPSC champion Jerry Miculek) and was known for shooting aerial targets. Common tricks included:
Throwing a tin can in the air, and firing six shots through it before it hit the ground
Throwing a dime into the air and shooting it
He hit cardboard discs and 1" lead discs on the edge that were thrown in the air

Jerry Miculek is the most decorated revolver shooter in the world.  Jerry is a top contender no matter the firearm, whether it's a Smith & Wesson M&P Pro Series 9mm or the Smith & Wesson M&P-15. Holder of several incredible world records, this multi-time world and national champion is a shooting sports living legend.

Tom Knapp was recognized as the greatest exhibition shooter of modern times. With TV appearances and more than 100 live shows a year in the United States and Europe, Tom has thrilled countless shooters with his seemingly impossible feats with shotguns.

Guns are the safety insurance that KEEPS you from getting killed!!!

guns have only ONE purpose.......to kill

and until you admit that our kids are in grave danger

Gun Safety Courses are available EVERYWHERE!!!   ...and, many/most are FREE!!!  ...and, many are taught by Law Enforcement personnel!!!

Here are some examples:

http://www.safetyfirstfirearmtraining.com/SafetyFirst/NRA_Courses.html

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 If that were true their would be a corpse resulting from every time a gun was used!

Libs/Dems/Fags/Leftists don't care so much about "Gun Control" as they do CONTROL!!!!

 
Exactly-- Im about getting sick of dealing with stupidity !


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stupidity is your name HK.


it's your best sales asset.

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number in 2015, despite Obama agenda

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President Obama’s ongoing push for gun control is backfiring, according to critics, who cite new federal data that shows Americans are more interested than ever in getting their hands on firearms.

A record 23,141,970 background checks were conducted on prospective gun buyers in 2015, according to year-end FBI data, up 15 percent from the previous year and nearly double the figure from 2008, the year before Obama took office.  Second Amendment advocates say interest in guns spikes whenever Obama publicly decries gun violence or calls for new measures to restrict firearms.

“People are voting on this issue with their dollars by buying more guns and ammunition,” Alan Gottlieb, founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, told FoxNews.com.

    “If what he’s trying to do is to stop people from buying guns, it doesn’t seem to be working so well.”

    - Amy Hunter, National Rifle Association

Background checks -- conducted whenever someone attempts to buy a gun from a licensed dealer or applies for a concealed carry permit – do not indicate the total number of gun sales, since some would-be buyers are denied and others purchase multiple guns. But the number of checks carried out in 2015, an all-time high since tracking began in 1998, undeniably correlates to interest.

Gun ownership was rising well before President Obama took office, according to a 2012 Congressional Research Service report. That study found that civilians owned 242 million guns in 1996; 259 million in 2000; and 310 million 2009. More recent official statistics are unavailable, but The Washington Post used manufacturing data and information from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to estimate the number of guns in America stood at 357 million in 2013.

There seems little doubt that gun ownership has risen dramatically under Obama, who supporters and critics alike believe may be the most outspoken proponent of gun control ever to occupy the White House.

“When he talks about guns, gun sales go up,” said National Rifle Association spokeswoman Amy Hunter. “If what he’s trying to do is to stop people from buying guns, it doesn’t seem to be working so well.”

Among the FBI's 2015 statistics:

- The 3,314,594 background checks conducted by the FBI in December 2015 were the highest monthly total on record, easily topping the previous all-time high of 2,783,765 in December 2012, the month of the Sandy Hook school massacre in Newtown, Conn.

- Before the record number of background checks in 2015, the previous record was 21,093,273 in 2013.

- In the first year of George W. Bush’s presidency, 2001, there were 8,910,191 background checks. The number rose to 12,709,023 in the last year before Bush left office.xx

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Murder tools!!  Register them!!  Confiscate them!!!  Ban them!!!!

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Hillary !



BOB  RI    123

guns only purpose is to kill

So every time a gun is fired someone dies?

To: WWV10MHZ

in re: Reply #88

Claim: Abortion is the leading cause of death in the United States of America, not guns.
Source: United States Census Bureau

First of all, the claim is a bald-faced lie. Heart Disease is the leading cause of death in the United States of America.
Source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm

And, needless to say, the US Census Bureau has never made the claim that guns are the leading cause of death in the United States.

"So it's sickening how liberals will use the murder of 20 school children to promote an unconstitutional gun grab when they openly support over 2700 lives snuffed out daily through abortion[.]"

No, WWV10MHZ. What's truly sickening is how you, and other dumbed-down stooges of the NRA, cavalierly ignore the annual death toll of over 30,000 gun deaths in this country, while continually arguing vociferously, vehemently, adamantly, and disingenuously that any attempt to enact common-sense gun laws that would greatly reduce this country's pervasive gun violence constitutes an unconstitutional "gun grab."

And, finally, the source of your cited abortion figures isn't the US Census Bureau. They come from a state-level, conservative and religious organisation known as the Florida Family Policy Council.   

guns only purpose is to kill



Already debunked repeatedly, Cas.   Why are you still stuck on stupid?  A philosophy of lies is your agenda?  Not a very good approach for your credibility which is in the dirt anyway.

sweetwater5s9: Already debunked repeatedly, Cas.
 
You've done no such thing, sweetie.

 Why are you still stuck on stupid?

Why are you making the stupid claim that a gun isn't a weapon, sweetie?

A philosophy of lies is your agenda[.]

Flawed logic and unsound reasoning is your trademark, sweetie.

Not a very good approach for your credibility which is in the dirt anyway.

Your penchant for posting irrelevant claptrap on this message board undermined your credibility a long time ago, sweetie.

You cannot keep up, hawk, but you do lie...  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/sad.gif)

 sweetwater5s69: You cannot keep up, hawk, but you do lie.

I left your dumb ass in the dust a long time ago. You're waaaay outta your league when you try to debate me; and that's no lie, sweetie. But you already knew that. Right?

LOL

1965hawks nothing I have posted has been "debunked"!

Your saying it is proves nothing but your own ignorance and arrogance!

Libs like to use the average 32,000 gun deaths per year figure as evidence for a need for strict "Gun Control".

But, that is a deceiving figure to say the least.

There are roughly 32,000 gun deaths per year in the United States. Of those, around 60% are suicides. About 3% are accidental deaths (between 700-800 deaths). About 34% of deaths (just over 11,000 in both 2010 and 2011) make up the remainder of gun deaths and are classified as homicides. Sometimes the 32,000 and 11,000 figures are used interchangeably by gun control advocates. Clearly, the 32,000 figure is a far more dramatic number and it is often used for impact by anti-gun activists.


http://usconservatives.about.com/od/capitalpunishment/a/Putting-Gun-Death-Statistics-In-Perspective.htm

guns have only one purpose,  to kill

now you might think cas annoying but it's the only way to get through

thick, boney right wing skulls

Has anyone ever been killed during a 21 Gun Salute?

Caserio repeating an obvious lie only makes you look bad!

Has been used to kill - BAN IT!!!

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According to the FBI (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2008-2012.xls), there were a total of 625 murders committed with rifles and shotguns. That breaks down to 322 murders that were rifle related and 303 that were shotgun related.

The total number of deaths committed with fists, hammers, and other blunt objects was 1,196. That breaks down to 518 murders related to hammers and blunt objects and 678 related to fists.

Taken together, the rate of murder by fists and hammers was nearly 100 percent higher than the rate of murder by rifles or shotguns.  Even the "dreaded assault rifle" the left whines about.


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Bloody Hammer

I thought only Negro Dems killed???
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guns are for killing

the better the gun the faster you can kill

the better the gun the further away you can kill

the better the gun the more is the kill

notice? 4 sentences 4 kills?

Guns are nothing more than safety tools!

Do you drive without wearing a seat belt?

Do you operate power tools without wearing hearing and eye protection?

Do you pull food out of a 400 degree oven with your bare hands?

If you do, you are an idiot!

Guns are protection against violent criminals liberals insist must be out in society!

A factual look at guns in America:

http://americangunfacts.com/

80 percent of gun violence is in urban ghettos by people who have firearms illegally!!!!!

WWV10MHZ: [A rolling pin] [h]as been used to kill[.] BAN IT[!]

WWV10MHZ, why should rolling pins be banned? There are roughly 30,000 deaths caused by firearms every year in Shooting Gallery USA. How many deaths are caused by rolling pins, worldwide, in a given year? 

DUH!!!  The thread is about all the various things that are used to kill people.  Libs/Dems/Fags/Leftists seem to think it's ONLY firearms!!!!!!!

A rolling pin has been used to kill people.  So, we need Rolling Pin Control!!!!!

25 Methods for Killing With Your Bare Hands


http://listverse.com/2007/11/11/25-methods-for-killing-with-your-bare-hands/

In the Military, you're taught how to use the palm of your hand to punch up into the nose bone of your opponent and drive it into their brain.

Instant DEATH!!!!!

More hands are used to murder others each year than all of the rifles in the U.S. including the AR-15 or "AK-47" according to the FBI.   Now what?

Libs/Dems/Fags/Leftists are well-known as wussies and are scardy-cats when it come to firearms.

Let's face it, Libs are girlie-men!!!!

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guns have only one purpose to kill

rolling pins, knives, bats, rocks, fists, etc. have other more appropriate uses

If that were the case every time a gun was fired some one would die!

Proving Caserio dead wrong!

WWV10MHZ: The thread is about all the various things that are used to kill people.  Libs/Dems/Fags/Leftists seem to think it's ONLY firearms[.]

No, WazzockMegaNutz. You're attacking a straw man. No one has ever made the preposterous claim that firearms are the only weapos used to kill people. That silly claim always originates from you gun nuts, not from those who advocate gun control. Truth is, it's always you gun nuts who always like to downplay the epidemic gun violence in the US and babble nonsense about deaths caused by everything except guns. 

A rolling pin has been used to kill people.

Yes. Rolling pins have probably been used at one time or another to kill a person. But firearms kill far more people in the US annually than firearms. Don't they, you blithering idiot?

So, we need Rolling Pin Control!

Rolling pin control? No, WazzockMegaNutz. What's needed here is for you to stop posting appeals to ridicule, take a seat, and shut the fuck up!

D2D: If that were the case[,] every time a gun was fired some one would die[,]

Not surprisingly, you're the only one making that idiotic argument, DUMB2DUMBER


[p]roving [c]aserio1 dead wrong[.]

Your silly argument doesn't disprove caserio1's claim. But every time you make idiotic arguments like that in this forum, you reconfirm the fact that you're obviously brain dead, DUMBER2DUMBEST.

D2D: Guns are nothing more than safety tools[.]

No, DUMB2DOOFAS, you're confused again. Guns are actually weapons--deadly weapons, in fact.

Do you drive without wearing a seat belt?Do you operate power tools without wearing hearing and eye protection?Do you pull food out of a 400 degree oven with your bare hands?If you do, you are an idiot!

Guns are protection against violent criminals [sic] liberals insist must be out in society[.]

If guns were actually as harmless as you and your fellow gun coddlers in this forum would have us believe, then they would be practically useless as protection against violent persons ("Criminals" aren't the only violent persons in a society, you DUMB little bitch)

To: sweetwater5s9

in re: Reply #106

Your logical fallacy: Cherry Picking (also known as suppressed evidence, fallacy of incomplete evidence, argument by selective observation, argument by half-truth, card stacking, fallacy of exclusion, ignoring the counter evidence, one-sided assessment, slanting, one-sidedness)

sweetwater5s9,

You've presented only carefully selected evidence in order to persuade the members of this forum to accept your position. But, of course, evidence that would undermine your position is conspicuously withheld. And, of course, your withholding evidence contradictory evidence makes your argument fallacious and, of course, the stronger the withheld evidence, the more fallacious your argument.

While it might be true that,"taken together, the rate of murder by fists and hammers was nearly 100 percent higher than the rate of murder by rifles and shot guns," your cherry-picked evidence, however, carefully avoids the fact that the vast majority of gun deaths in the United States is due to handguns rather than to either rifles, shot guns, or assault rifles. And, needless to say, deaths caused by hammers and fists in the United States pale in comparison with deaths caused by handguns. Isn't that true, sweetwater5s9?

 

1965hawks what language are you trying to translate my posts to?

Certainly it is not English!

DEMENTED2DELUSIONAL: 1965hawks what language are you trying to translate my posts to? Certainly it is not English! [sic]

DUMBELL2DUMBFUCK,in the English language, sentences don't begin with numerals and don't end with prepositions, you arrogant ignoramus. And declarative sentences don't end with exclamation points, you functional illiterate.

Until your DUMB ass learns to use the English language correctly, you can take a seat and shut the fuck up, you semi-literate ass clown.

It is you name!

You are the one who chose it!

I didn't choose it!

It is your name not a number!

Ass!

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It is you name!

You are the one who chose it!

I didn't choose it!

It is your name not a number!

Ass!

Huh? What the fuck are you babbling about, DUMBFUCK2DIPSHIT.

Your problem is obvious, you turd-brained moron. Take a seat and shut the fuck up!

I win!

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I win!

I know, D2D. I've already told your DUMB ass that you always win this forum's Head-Up-The-Ass Contest. Remember?

Guns are used to provide protection against people that are trying to kill YOU!!!!!

Guns are used for recreation - target practice.

Guns are used in International Competition - The Olympics.

Guns are used to hunt animals for food.

Guns are used by game hunters for Trophies.

Guns are used to protect people and livestock from predators.

Guns are used during salutes to honor important people during special ceremonies.

Guns are used by collectors of various and rare firearms.

Guns are used as historical displays in Museums.

Guns are used as part of the ornamental uniforms in Color Guards.

Guns are use for MANY beneficial things!!!

WWV10MHZ: Guns are used to provide protection against people that are trying to kill YOU.

That's because guns are weapons. In fact, they are defined more precisely as deadly weapons, because that's exactly what they were designed to do--kill. That's their only purpose: to kill.

Guns are used for recreation (target practice). Guns are used in International Competition (The Olympics). Guns are used to blah blah blah blah....

Guns are use for many beneficial things[.]

Yes, I agree, WWV10MHZ. Guns have many uses and are used for many beneficial things. But the cherry-picked list you provided conveniently omitted telling us their purpose. The purpose of all weapons--including firearms--is to injure or destroy. And since lethality is intrinsic to the design of firearms, they are construed to be deadly weapons--when used as weapons, death is the presumed result. Yes. Guns can be used for many things, but they were designed, manufactured, advertised, and sold for only one purpose--to kill.   

69Hocker.....

Depending upon HOW they are used by the person possessing them, firearms can be a weapon.  But that is only ONE of their uses.

Many things can be used as a weapon.  Shall we list them ALL.........again?

Because a very small number of people use an item as a deadly weapon, should they ALL be banned/controlled/limited, etc.? ? ? ? ? ?

Wouldn't that be the precise definition of "UNREASONABLE"? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Guns are nothing more than safety tools!

Do you drive without wearing a seat belt?

Do you operate power tools without wearing hearing and eye protection?

Do you pull food out of a 400 degree oven with your bare hands?

If you do, you are an idiot!

Guns are protection against violent criminals liberals insist must be out in society!

The purpose of all weapons--including firearms--is to injure or destroy.


Wrong.   Obviously you are clueless or lying, hawk.



Nearly 300 colleges and universities in the U.S. offer shooting programs. If you are new to the collegiate shooting sports arena, read our Collegiate Shooting Guide (http://www.competitions.nra.org/collegiate/nra-collegiate-shooting-guide.aspx) to get started.  Our program sanctions over 11,000 tournaments and 50 championships, throughout the United States and the World.      

Following the lead of socially constructed emotions,
egalitarians and communitarians will instinctively recoil from guns in fear.

The media and television have convinced many that all firearms are bad and no one should touch them. Of course, we who are familiar with firearms know those things aren’t true, but how do we convince others who haven’t experienced what we have?

Well, we start by taking the fear out of it.

There’s a way to get over this fear too, but it’s a secret. Ready?

Get out there and do it!






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1965hawks: The purpose of all weapons--including firearms--is to injure or destroy.


sweetwater5s9: Wrong.  Obviously you are clueless or lying, hawk. Nearly 300 colleges and universities in the U.S. offer blah blah blah blah....

weapon  noun a thing designed or used for inflicting bodily harm or physical damage.   

Nothing in your irrelevant response even remotely refutes my assertion that a firearm's purpose--like that of all weapons-- is to injure or harm. Truth is, as is always the case, it's you, sweetwater5s9, who's clueless and lying.   

D2D:

Guns are nothing more than safety tools! Do you drive without wearing a seat belt? Do you operate power tools without wearing hearing and eye protection?Do you pull food out of a 400 degree oven with your bare hands? If you do, you are an idiot! Guns are protection against violent criminals liberals insist must be out in society!

D2D, as I've told you so many times before: you are nothing more than an idiot!

(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/smileys/YahooIM/24.gif) D2D's an IDIOT. IDIOT. IDIOT IDIOT. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

Guns are nothing more than safety tools!

Do you drive without wearing a seat belt?

Do you operate power tools without wearing hearing and eye protection?

Do you pull food out of a 400 degree oven with your bare hands?

If you do, you are an idiot!

Guns are protection against violent criminals liberals insist must be out in society!

Libs/Dems/Fags/Leftists......  If you are afraid of guns or don't like them for whatever reason, DON'T GET ONE!!!!!

But, leave Normal People alone to enjoy their 2nd Amendment Guaranteed Rights!!!!!!!

WWV10MHZ: If you are afraid of guns or don't like them for whatever reason, don't get one.

NRA Myth: "Those who support of gun control are motivated by 'fear of guns.' "

The support for gun control is motivated by the facts and statistics regarding violent crime and the availability of guns. I support licensing of drivers and registration of automobiles but I do not 'fear' cars. Again I will remind you that 42% of gun OWNERS support a gun licensing system. The NRA, on the other hand, constantly uses fear and hysteria to drum up opposition to gun control.

Nearly 300 colleges and universities in the U.S. offer shooting programs. If you are new to the collegiate shooting sports arena, read our Collegiate Shooting Guide (http://www.competitions.nra.org/collegiate/nra-collegiate-shooting-guide.aspx) to get started.  Our program sanctions over 11,000 tournaments and 50 championships, throughout the United States and the World.   

Following the lead of socially constructed emotions,
egalitarians and communitarians will instinctively recoil from guns in fear.

Guns can be used for many things, but they were designed, manufactured, advertised, and sold for only one purpose--to kill.

An interesting concept hawk. So based on you theory all levels of "police" within our country only carry guns to kill us. Interesting.

Guns can be used for many things, but they were designed, manufactured, advertised, and sold for only one purpose--to kill.



That is an outright lie.

sweetwater5s9: An interesting concept[,]hawk. So[,] based on you theory[,] all levels of "police" within our country only carry guns to kill us. Interesting.

No, sweetwater5s9. Your fallacious argument isn't interesting; it's incredibly stupid. Law enforcement officers carry firearms to be used as primarily for self-defense--although one could argue convincingly that they carry firearms to murder unarmed black males. But that's beside the point.

Cops carry firearms for protection, one of the many uses on which we've agreed that guns have. Law enforcement officers have no choice but to carry firearms, because this country's lax gun laws allow almost anybody--including our society's criminal element--easy access to firearms. Since guns are, in actuality, deadly weapons, cops in this country are forced to carry them as a countermeasure for those who might use guns with the intent to either harm or kill them. Sorry, sweetwater5s9. No amount of your spin will ever change the fact that the primary purpose of a gun (a deadly weapon) is to kill.

 

Guns can be used for many things, but they were designed, manufactured, advertised, and sold for only one purpose--to kill.

sweetwater5s9: That is an outright lie.

Whether guns are used for recreation, sport, or completion; or whether they are collected by museums and individuals, or used inhistorical re-enactments or in military ceremonies and pageantry, the fact you're conveniently ignoring is that all firearms--whatever they might be used for--are, in essence, deadly weapons; lethality is intrinsic to their design. Their primary purpose, their sole purpose, is to kill. That's what all deadly weapons are designed to do; that's their only purpose. Don't believe everything you think, sweetwater5s9.

Guns are nothing more than safety tools!

Do you drive without wearing a seat belt?

Do you operate power tools without wearing hearing and eye protection?

Do you pull food out of a 400 degree oven with your bare hands?

If you do, you are an idiot!

Guns are protection against violent criminals liberals insist must be out in society!

They all read the same!

After all they all parrot the same talking points!

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Local5th, I'm neither fooled nor impressed by your pseudo-intellectualism. Truth is, there's really no difference between you and all our forum's other right-wingnut ass clowns. You're all the same to me.

LOL

Guns are nothing more than safety tools!

Do you drive without wearing a seat belt?

Do you operate power tools without wearing hearing and eye protection?

Do you pull food out of a 400 degree oven with your bare hands?

If you do, you are an idiot!

Guns are protection against violent criminals liberals insist must be out in society!

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Guns are nothing more than safety tools!

Guns are nothing more than safety tools!

Do you drive without wearing a seat belt?

Do you operate power tools without wearing hearing and eye protection?

Do you pull food out of a 400 degree oven with your bare hands?

If you do, you are an idiot!

Guns are protection against violent criminals liberals insist must be out in society!

sweetwater5s9: An interesting concept[,]hawk. So[,] based on you theory[,] all levels of "police" within our country only carry guns to kill us. Interesting.


I did not write that, hawk.   Like everything else you babble about, you are wrong, again.

btw, all vehicles and tools have the potential to be lethal.  As with firearms it is up to the operator.   The most expensive firearms are designed specifically for sporting use and not self-defense or hunting.  In fact they fail at either.

Guns are nothing more than safety tools!

Do you drive without wearing a seat belt?

Do you operate power tools without wearing hearing and eye protection?

Do you pull food out of a 400 degree oven with your bare hands?

If you do, you are an idiot!

Guns are protection against violent criminals liberals insist must be out in society!

Hands and blunt objects murder more than all of the rifles and shotguns in the U.S. as the FBI has repeatedly reported.   The left's anti-gun nuts wing should be embarrassed with their dishonesty.

sweetwater5s9: Hands and blunt objects murder more than blah blah blah blah ....

sweetwter5s9,

As you should know by now, I'm not easily distracted by red herrings. Stay on topic; stop trying to change the subject; stick with the original issue.

http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display/20152016/HB/731

Either do that or take a seat and shut the fuck up, sweetie!

Stung by effective arguments and facts, 1965hawks denies them as "red herrings"!

Seems he cannot cope!

Local5th: Killing is not the purpose of all guns.

What other purpose do guns--or any other deadly weapon-- have, Local5th?

Local5th: Target rifles are designed specifically for competition to the point weight, size. ergonomics and  caliber make them impractical for any other use.

Target rifles are designed to be used for competition, but that doesn't make them impractical  for use as deadly weapons. Does it, LOCO5th? The fact remains that a so-called target rifle is, in actuality, a deadly weapon. Isn't that correct, LOCO5th?

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LOCO5th attempting to prove that all guns are not designed to kill.

The fact remains if only guns kill there would be a death resulting from every pull of the trigger!

D2D: The fact remains[:] if only guns kill there would be a death resulting from every pull of the trigger[.]

D2D, your argument has a serious flaw: it's illogical to argue that simply firing a gun always results in a death.

 A ban on "assault" rifles "is as illogical as it is unconstitutional. We face far greater danger from individuals armed with carpenters' tools and a caveman's stick".

FBI: More people killed with hammers, clubs, fists than with rifles, shotguns.

Perhaps Feinstein and her allies would be better off demanding that kitchen knives, clubs, blunt objects and bare hands be registered, requiring everyone to undergo training in their proper use.  They kill far more people in the U.S. than with all rifles and shotguns, even the dreaded so called "assault" ones.

sweetwater5s9:  A ban on assault rifles is as illogical [...]more people [are] killed with hammers, clubs, fists than with rifles [or]shotguns.

Your argument is a red herring, sweetwater5s9. The vast majority of gun deaths in the United States are caused by handguns, not by AR15s and the like. Viewed in light of that fact, it would be much more logical to ban handguns rather than ban semiautomatic assault rifles. And, of course, it goes without saying that handguns cause a lot more deaths in the US than hammers, clubs, and fists. Don't they, sweetwater5s9?

 That is what you are arguing when you claim guns only kill!

Don't blame me for your lack of logic!

D2D: That is what you are arguing when you claim guns only kill[.]

No, you lying little moron. That's a classic example of the distorted reasoning an unsound logic on which you base the lies you use every day here in this forum. I've never made the illogical claim that guns only kill; that's the bogus argument you're attributing to me--a straw man you've propped up to refute and then claim you've refuted the original argument. But let me remind you again that the issue here isn't whether  guns only  kill; it's whether the purpose of a gun is to kill. The purpose of a gun (a deadly weapon) is to kill, an assertion that  neither you nor your gun loon pals have yet to refute.   
Don't blame me for your lack of logic[.]

You're confused again, you arrogant little moron. It's your DUMB ass that's obviously lacking logic in this discussion. And I'm blaming your stupid and ignorant ass for the lack of sound logic and nonexistent reasoning for the incredibly inane argument you've presented here, you turd-brained imbecile. 

No, the purpose of a gun is determined by the hand that wields it!

Criminals use guns to take lives and acquire goods without paying for them!

The law abiding use guns for hunting, target shooting, collecting, and self defense!

Everything you and your liberal cronies have proposed only effects the law abiding!

We need criminal control not gun control!

D2D: No, the purpose of a gun is determined by the hand that wields it [.]

The purpose of a firearm is to kill, no matter whose hands wield it. You're babbling about how firearms are used, not their purpose.

Criminals use guns to take lives and acquire goods without paying for them[.]

But the law-abiding never use guns to take the lives of others and even themselves. Right, DUMBO2DELUSIONAL? And, by the way, DELUSIONAL2DIMWITTED, you don't need a gun to take some's life or to take property without paying for it.

The law abiding use guns for hunting, target shooting, collecting, and self defense[.]

But how gun are used doesn't change the primary purpose of guns. Does it, DUMBELL2DELUSIONAL? Guns used for hunting have the purpose of killing. Don't they, D2D? And the purpose of target shooting is to hone ones marksmanship skills in order to fully exploit the lethality of a firearm, it's true purpose.

Everything you and your liberal cronies have proposed only effects the law abiding[.]

And every time you conservatives make that illogical argument you prove just how stupid and ignorant you truly  are.

We need criminal control not gun control! [sic]

You need to stop tacking on unnecessary exclamation points at the end of your harebrained sentences and then, you DUMB little bitch, you need to take a seat and shut the fuck up.

 

No, the purpose of a gun is determined by the hand that wields it!

Criminals use guns to take lives and acquire goods without paying for them!

The law abiding use guns for hunting, target shooting, collecting, and self defense!

Everything you and your liberal cronies have proposed only effects the law abiding!

We need criminal control not gun control!

 it would be much more logical to ban handguns rather than ban semiautomatic assault rifles.


The Democrats in Congress and the Executive are clueless then...

And they will not let go of trying to ban scary looking semi-auto rifles even if it is not logical.

sweetwater5s9: And they will not let go of trying to ban scary looking semi-auto rifles even if it is not logical.

"scary-looking semiautomatic assault rifles."

"Scary-looking?" Yeah...right, sweetie.

NRA Myth: The supporters of gun control are motivated by "fear" of guns.

The support for gun control is motivated by the facts and statistics regarding violent crime and the availability of guns. I support licensing of drivers and registration of automobiles but I do not 'fear' cars. Again I will remind you that 42% of gun OWNERS support a gun licensing system. The NRA, on the other hand, constantly uses fear and hysteria to drum up opposition to gun control.

Democrats fear anything that contributes to individual rights and freedoms!

D2D: Democrats fear anything that contributes to individual rights and freedoms[.]

D2DUMBELL why are you afraid to tell me the difference between opinion and fact and the difference between purpose and use? Could it be that your DUMB ass doesn't know?

Again, these guns may "look" like a military weapon but they are the farthest thing from one... they fire just one bullet at a time the way every other civilian rifle is sold. There is fundamentally no difference between them and Uncle Bob's hunting rifle except in they way they look, and a smaller type bullet.

Here's an excellent ten minute video about this subject.

You'll get to see a normal, everyday hunting rifle change to an "evil black rifle" right before your very eyes. And when you realize that it is fundamentally no different from you going from suit and tie with combed hair to bluejeans and a tee shirt with unkempt hair then you'll understand the lies the gun banners have been trying to foist off on the public.

https://youtube.com/v/ysf8x477c30 (https://youtube.com/v/ysf8x477c30)


Now that you know the truth of the matter you can spot when someone is ignorant about assault weapons and yet are still willing to give their opinion about something they know nothing about.


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sweetwater5s9:Again, these guns may "look" like a military weapon but they are the farthest thing from one[; they fire just one bullet at a time the way every other civilian rifle is sold.

NRA Myth: The NRA has been saying that the assault weapons ban only affects guns with certain "cosmetic" differences that make them look more dangerous. The guns affected by the assault weapons ban are no more dangerous than any hunting rifle.

You're parroting an NRA myth again, sweetwater5s9.

That's like saying there are only "cosmetic" differences between a Ford Taurus and an M-1 tank. The features found on semiautomatic assault rifles are not just cosmetic. They are features that make those weapons more suitable for killing people in battle than for hunting, target shooting, or self defense.

 The features found on semiautomatic assault rifles are not just cosmetic. They are features that make those weapons more suitable for killing people in battle than for hunting, target shooting, or self defense.

There is no such thing as a semi-automatic only assault weapon hawk.

1965hawks, how do pistol grips, a bayonet lug and flash hiders or the lack there of alter a weapons performance for good or ill?

1965hawks, how do pistol grips, a bayonet lug and flash hiders or the lack there of alter a weapons performance for good or ill?

1965hawks,

[H]ow do does a pistol grips grip, a bayonet lug[,] and  flash hiders suppressor s[,] or the lack there of thereof alter a weapons weapon's performance for good or ill?


D2D




D2Disinformed, a pistol grip, bayonet lug, and flash suppressor are not merely "cosmetic" features added to military-style weapons to "alter their performance" or to make them look "scary." They are incorporated into the design of a weapon to make it more suitable to fulfill its purpose--to kill people in battle. Simply removing a military weapon's bayonet lug and flash suppressor, removing its capability to function as an automatic weapon, and then advertising and selling that weapon as a "modern sport rifle," does not change the fact that the weapon itself remains essentially a civilian version of a weapon designed for combat use rather than for hunting, sport, competition, or self-defense.

      

1965hawks, how do pistol grips, a bayonet lug and flash hiders or the lack there of alter a weapons performance for good or ill?
                                                                                                                                       

the ONLY function of a gun is to kill
 
the ONLY function of a Soldier is to kill, but guess what, we need those too...

D2D, your lack of reading comprehension skills is well-documented in this forum. Your inability to read and understand what is presented here for your perusal places you at a distinct disadvantage. But that's your personal problem, D2Dummkopf, not mine.

jim: [T]he only function of a gun is to kill.

No, jivin' jim. You always get it wrong! The only purpose of a gun is to kill.
 
[T]he only function[?] of a soldier is to kill,

Really, jivin' jim? Do members of a country's armed forces have "functions" or duties?

but guess what, we need those too[.]

Guess what, jivin' jim. You don't know what the hell you're babbling about here. So here's what you need to do: take a seat and shut up, you clueless ignoramus.

Yet, 1965hawks you seem incapable of answering my questions!

1965hawks, how do pistol grips, a bayonet lug and flash hiders or the lack there of alter a weapons performance for good or ill?