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Title: Debates now on CNN
Post by: Jim on 09 16, 15, 08:10:42:PM
The first 4 were really getting down at each other...


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: Byteryder on 09 16, 15, 08:43:28:PM
Jeb is really getting Uppity.


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: Jw2 on 09 16, 15, 09:04:48:PM
Let the lies fly!  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/grin.gif)


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: Truman62 on 09 16, 15, 09:36:46:PM
Lies thick as flies there!


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 09 16, 15, 09:48:24:PM
trump is hilarious...he really screwed little boy rand into the ground.  and thoroughly slam dunked dumbass governor scotty's lies about not fucking up wisconsin's economy.  he is a blowhard, but he is funny.  He is LEADING THE GOP CLOWN CAR RACE!!!  AMAZING!!


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: KensanIV on 09 16, 15, 10:13:08:PM
I saw the second tier... No problem, they are attempting to get some traction.  Doubtful that many of them will be around for the next  debate.  I thought that a couple of them made some salient points... Will it get them to the main debate...Maybe???

The primary candidates seem well prepared and had the answers necessary to keep it going.  Personally I wasn't favorable to Bush at all... as well Trump seemed rather subdued, away from his usual bravado. 


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: emilyB on 09 16, 15, 10:16:05:PM
Lies or opinions?  Name a few of the lies, little boys.

Oh wait a minute,........there were lies that were named.................Hilary's.


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: Jim on 09 16, 15, 11:26:42:PM
he is a blowhard, but he is funny.  He is LEADING THE GOP CLOWN CAR RACE!!! 
 
I actually find it more amazing that Hoosier reminds me so much of Trump. They "have" to be related.  Blowhards, loud mouths, adding 2cents uninvited, overly acting tough for the crowd, has a hard time shutting up, runs their mouth longer than necessary, mixes unalike topics as if they are relevant, continually repeats himself, and over-explains that which only requires a simple response.   Its uncanny.


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: ttopcat on 09 17, 15, 12:04:49:AM
Reagan would have said something like this to Trump well you're no Handsome leading man yourself slugger. 


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: Jw2 on 09 17, 15, 12:06:40:AM
(http://bluenationreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Iran.jpg)


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: Jw2 on 09 17, 15, 12:07:37:AM
(https://dougmichaeltruth.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/iran-contracollage.jpg?w=450)


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: Jim on 09 17, 15, 12:16:53:AM
 

 That's funny.  JW trying to DIS Reagan with his uploaded "Pics", and yet Reagan is still the Best President since Kennedy.   <hahahahaha>
 


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 09 17, 15, 05:44:17:AM


That's funny.&nbsp;&nbsp;JW trying to DIS Reagan with his uploaded "Pics", and yet Reagan is still the Best President since Kennedy.&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;hahahahaha&gt;



to a loudmouthed sissy like you, maybe, chemtrail.  all of those reagan headlines in that picture ARE TRUE...but truth means nothing to punk blowhards like chemtrail, do they, chemtrail?  you prefer your right wing la-la land lies, as brought to you by Fox, a totally pwned subsidiary of the GOP.  he did break the law when he traded guns for hostages, held by iranians.  he did break the law when he gave arms to the right wing terrorists in guatemala.  he even admitted doing so, just like bush admitted iraq had no wmds, had no ties to al qaeda BEFORE we invaded and had no ties to 9/11 whatsoever.  even though he and his warmongering cronies KEPT INSISTING THEY DID FOR ABOUT A YEAR LEADING UP TO THE LYING INVASION.  but you teabaggers would rather focus on emails from 2 years ago that may or may not have been erased and may or may not have been even considered classified info. 

and what lies, emily?  really?  you are this uninformed you have to ask what lies did these lying assholes spew while on stage?  let me count the ways:

Fact check: Sen. Ted Cruz's criticism of the Iran nuclear agreement.

"There are several facilities in Iran they designate as military facilities that are off-limit altogether," the Texas senator said. "Beyond that, the other facilities, we give them 24 days' notice before inspecting them. That is designed to allow them to hide the evidence and most astonishingly, this agreement trusts the Iranians to inspect themselves."

The Additional Protocol, which Iran signed onto under the nuclear agreement, allows the International Atomic Energy Agency, a U.N. nuclear watchdog agency, to seek access to any site, including military sites.

Cruz's assertion falsely suggests that all nuclear inspections in Iran would be conducted by the Iranians, but without access to the full document, it's unclear exactly how inspections at Parchin will proceed. And the assertion that military facilities are entirely off-limits is also false.

VERDICT: False


Fact check: Donald Trump says Wisconsin is losing $2.2 billion.

In November 2014, the Wisconsin Department of Administration said state agencies' budget requests would exceed expected revenues by $2.2 billion dollars for the 2015-2017 budget cycle.

However, Wisconsin is required by state law to balance its budget. Therefore, state lawmakers cut spending, including slashing funding for the University of Wisconsin by $250 million (and cuts to the state highway fund). The budget that Gov. Scott Walker signed in July did not have a deficit.(they just cut a shitload of vital projects and programs to make up for the shortfall)

VERDICT: False


Fact check: Bush says U.S. has failed to bolster ties to any nation under Obama.

President Barack Obama has reopened ties with at least two countries that the U.S. had no diplomatic relations with when he entered office.

In 2012, the Obama administration renewed full diplomatic ties with Myanmar, which had been an international pariah for more than two decades over the crackdown of its military government on the pro-democracy movement. Obama has visited the country twice as president.

This year, Obama renewed relations with Cuba, meeting the country's leader, Raul Castro, at a summit in Panama and officially reopening the U.S. embassy in Havana last month.

America's diplomatic ties to other countries, including Israel, have been strained under Obama, as Obama has acknowledged in some cases. But it's not accurate to suggest that all U.S. relationships abroad have suffered under Obama.

VERDICT: False


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 09 17, 15, 05:47:49:AM
Fact check: Trump says he never lobbied Bush for casinos in Florida.

Bush knocked Trump, saying, "The one guy that had special interests that I know of that tried to get me to change my views and was generous and gave me money was Donald Trump. He wanted casino gambling in Florida."

Trump flatly replied, "No, I didn't."

But although Trump himself never personally appealed to Bush for casino gambling in Florida, he had lobbyists do so on his behalf, and he ultimately lost. Trump hosted a high-dollar fundraiser for Bush in 1998, shortly before he won office, and gave $50,000 to the Florida Republican Party. But upon taking office, Bush stuck to his stance against gambling and Trump's proposed casino never materialized.

VERDICT: False

Fact check: Bobby Jindal says letting more Syrian refugees into the U.S. would involve a circumvention of the normal immigrant vetting process.

"The answer to this is not to put a Band-Aid on this and allow even more people to come into America," Jindal said at the first debate. "We should not short-circuit the vetting process -- we've got a normal vetting process. Simply allowing more people into our country doesn't solve this problem," Jindal said.

Actually, the increase the Obama administration is proposing would be managed through the normal process within the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program.

The 10,000 refugees the administration plans to admit in fiscal year 2016 will follow this multi-step process, which involved registering with the United Nations High Commission for Refugees, then undergoing a physical exam, interview and interagency security vetting.

Once they've completed this process, the refugees will be referred to approved sponsor agencies in the U.S. that will facilitate their integration into American life.

The president of the United States, in consultation with Congress, sets the quota for how many refugees can be admitted through the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program at the beginning of each fiscal year, and can change that number mid-year if there is a humanitarian refugee crisis.

VERDICT: False


http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/16/politics/republican-debate-fact-check/


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: Baretta19 on 09 17, 15, 05:51:05:AM
What your byline is missing Jockwhiffer.
 
Reagan did it FOR AMERICA
 
Mullah Obama did it FOR ISALMIC TERRORIST.
I doubt you have the intelligence to grasp the reality.
 
(http://bluenationreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Iran.jpg)


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 09 17, 15, 05:59:27:AM
What your byline is missing Jockwhiffer.

Reagan did it FOR AMERICA

Mullah Obama did it FOR ISALMIC TERRORIST.  (what is an isalmic terrorist?  is that like balsamic vinegar?  or what?  dumbass.)
I doubt you have the intelligence to grasp the reality.

(http://bluenationreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Iran.jpg)


president obama did what for a terrorist, stupid shit?  so reagan broke the law by giving arms to iran, a UN embargo that we GOT PASSED IN THE UN and our own domestic law about dealing with iran in any weapons sales, in order to get dough to give more arms to send to right wing terrorists in guatemala which WAS ALSO SPECIFICALLY AGAINST UNITED STATES LAW, was somehow for America?  how, dumbass? do you even know what iran-contra was about, dipshit?


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 09 17, 15, 06:08:46:AM
Diversion from the debates?   LOL...


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: Baretta19 on 09 17, 15, 06:30:18:AM
president obama did what for a terrorist, stupid shit?
 
ROFL - I can never figure out how far Hoosier has his head up Obama's ass, "shoulder deep" just doesn't work. Hussein Obama OPENLY ADMITTED ON NATIONAL TV that the money he is going to give to Iran WILL IN FACT FUND TERRORIST.
 
Spin it anyway you can whore BOY..You're Jim Jones like devotion and complete stupidity is very very obvious, This is not only my opinion but FACTS to be obtained from many sources, you can deny all you want it will NEVER change the FACT that Hussein Obama is PERSONALLY supplying material support to the number one state sponsor of terrorism.
 
I hope I spelled everything rite..<Insert your standard "fuck fuck Bush, chickenshit racist intelligence here>
 
White House 'Nearly Certain' Iran Will Still Fund Terrorism
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/08/05/obama-administration-nearly-certain-iran-will-still-fund-terrorism (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/08/05/obama-administration-nearly-certain-iran-will-still-fund-terrorism)


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 09 17, 15, 06:35:09:AM
if you define iran as a terrorist country, which we do, that is a no-brainer, bitch.  tell that to england, france, germany, the UN, canada, japan, and all of our other major allies who have all supported this deal as the best way going forward.  you right wing dickheads are wrong.  you and a slight majority of the israeli people, and saudi arabia, are the only ones on the planet AGAINST THIS DEAL....why do you think dumbass teabagger warmongers have a clue, stupid?  they are only about twice as smart as you. 


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 09 17, 15, 07:24:16:AM
we KNOW SAUDI ARABIA FUNDS TERRORISM...DUH....AL QAEDA....BIN LADEN....ISIS....any of these names ringing any bells, dumbass?  who do you think supports these radical right wing terrorists in the name of the most radical form of islam?  and how many sweetheart military deals have we given them?  how many times have we let them slide when we catch them funding these right wing fundamentalist terrorists?


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: Jim on 09 17, 15, 04:51:04:PM
 
Hahahahaha

Did I mention how I find it amazing how Hoosier reminds me so much of Trump?
How can they not be related.  I create one short paragraph statement, and he responds with TWO posts!

Did I mention they are both Blowhards, loud mouths, overly acting tough for the crowd as if the crowd gives a carp, has a hard time shutting up, runs his little mouth longer than necessary, mixes unalike topics as if they are somehow relevant, continually repeats himself, continually repeats himself, continually repeats himself, and over-explains nonsensically that which only required a simple response. 

I mean, honestly, Cluster Muffin, I'm sure I must have...
 


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: a777pilot on 09 17, 15, 05:15:36:PM
This "debate" was formulated by CNN to turn the GOP candidates on each other.  They, CNN, were very successful in the execution of their plan.  Some of the candidates tried to steer clear of the trap, but alas they were not successful.

Six o f those on stage last night are not qualified to be President.  Those would be the three outsiders and the three first term Senators.

I want a current or former governor.


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: JigSaw-II on 09 17, 15, 05:36:08:PM
The candidates who's rating in the polls are single digits, should drop out or be dropped.  They are nothing but excess baggage...


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: caserio1 on 09 17, 15, 06:35:08:PM
when one reads all the posts on this subject

it becomes increasingly clear that

the republicans have nobody who can be presidential


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: KensanIV on 09 17, 15, 10:44:12:PM
Hmmmm, Don't know about Trump lobbying Bush.... But there have been gambling casinos in Florida for many years. 

As for Reagan and Iran... Did anyone happen to remember that Iran was our ally for many years... Before they took our embassy members prisoners under that Georgia loser Carter. 

Say, what you like but Reagan was responsible for them being released. 

Listening to the Ayatollah recently, he seems to not give a rats ass about the deal that Obama/Kerry etc have made with them.  He continues to bad-mouth the USA.

DOES ANYONE SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT RHETORIC?  When we are trying to get a nuke treaty signed with them? 


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 09 18, 15, 07:34:02:AM
Hmmmm, Don't know about Trump lobbying Bush.... But there have been gambling casinos in Florida for many years.&nbsp;&nbsp;

As for Reagan and Iran... Did anyone happen to remember that Iran was our ally for many years... Before they took our embassy members prisoners under that Georgia loser Carter.&nbsp;&nbsp;

Say, what you like but Reagan was responsible for them being released.&nbsp;&nbsp;

Listening to the Ayatollah recently, he seems to not give a rats ass about the deal that Obama/Kerry etc have made with them.&nbsp;&nbsp;He continues to bad-mouth the USA.

DOES ANYONE SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT RHETORIC?&nbsp;&nbsp;When we are trying to get a nuke treaty signed with them?&nbsp;&nbsp;


the long standing policy of this country is to not negotiate with kidnappers- because if we do, no american overseas will be safe from any clown of any country kidnapping them and demanding a ransom- DUH.  prisoner exchanges have always occurred, but outright payoffs to kidnappers?  carter refused.  reagan and former CIA chief vice-president candidate bush persuaded iran to hold off on releasing the hostages until after the election and get paid off.  which they did.  duh.  and you prefer a chickenshit, anti-american deal like that designed to influence an election over keeping a long standing policy to NOT NEGOTIATE WITH KIDNAPPERS?  that just shows why you are a teabagger.  you do not have the sense or the integrity NOT to be. 


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: KensanIV on 09 18, 15, 03:23:17:PM
Yes HOOSIER THE LOSER, I see how well Obama has been following the no negotiating for prisoners when he made that 5 for 1 deal for Bergdorf.  He had the traitor in the rose garden and made a big deal of what a great deal it was.

Now the military is setting up the wheels for a General Courts Martial for the jerk.  They are reserving a special cell in Leavenworth for the loser, meanwhile, the 5 high ranking (former Gitmo POWs) are possibly now commanding special ISIS brigades. 

And we HAVE ONLY OBAMA TO THANK FOR THAT.


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: caserio1 on 09 18, 15, 03:31:19:PM
a prisoner swap is a time honored way to get prisoners released

romans did it in jerusalem

but

prisoners for arms (like reagan did) breaks all rules of proper conduct


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: caserio1 on 09 18, 15, 03:35:51:PM
actually them gitmo releases are farmers in yemen


Title: Re: Debates now on CNN
Post by: KensanIV on 09 18, 15, 11:04:00:PM
Yes, For certain Cas.... Farmers in the desert... Growing old waiting for the word to go ahead.  Only in the your dim world.