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Title: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: KensanIV on 07 30, 15, 10:03:58:AM
One of the earlier posts regarding a former convict who was killed in Chicago got me to thinking about the drug problem, I don't think any community is exempt... Not too long ago we even had 2 Amish kids arrested for drug offenses.

Chicago seems to set a bad example for the world to follow... Are there NO decent people living there? If an elected official isn't being tried and sent to jail, another one is getting out and it seems that daily several people are killed over drugs deals that went bad.

I am sure Chicago is no worse than Detroit, Phila, NYC, Dallas, LA or San Francisco, Atlanta, New Orleans or Houston... All of the larger cities seem to have the same experiences.

Are other places just as bad and are we losing control of our who culture?

The county seat of the place I live has a population of about 27-30 thousand people, we have a lot of Hispanics who have come into the area and are taking the jobs in the chicken processing plants nearby.

Over this past week-end we had 3 deaths due to heroin overdosing. 2 of them were of the Hispanic heritage, the info on the third one has not been released to the public.

Trillions of dollars have been spent nationally from the "war on drugs" to the cost of putting drug dealers and yes even users into confinement.

We are not winning this war.  Even in small communities the problem seems to be escalating. 

Are there any answers on how to stop this insanity?


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: dont-blameme on 07 30, 15, 10:20:08:AM
The war on drugs is like the war on poverty, both are government failures, but like all government sponsored programs more money is always the answer!
 
 


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: Byteryder on 07 30, 15, 10:23:48:AM
Drugs, mind altering substances, have been with us since the dawn of time.  The worst of the lot is Alcohol.


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: dont-blameme on 07 30, 15, 10:31:12:AM
The worst of the lot is Alcohol.
 
Yep and the government banned it and out of that mess organized crime was born! Another blunder by the government.  If it ain't broke don't worry the government will fix it!


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: Local5th on 07 30, 15, 10:35:06:AM
Legalize and tax weed, decriminalize/treat drug use, life sentence for trafficking and/or selling illegal drugs.


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 07 30, 15, 10:43:12:AM
As long as the life sentence is for large and repeated trafficking of drugs by drug dealers and not a "friend" selling/giving to a friend small quantities and I would agree with everything you said local...


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: dont-blameme on 07 30, 15, 10:43:46:AM
Life sentence in todays prisons are a cake walk for some they live better inside then they could on the outside!

For drug dealers the sentence should be death, at the time of arrest!


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: wmdn_bs on 07 30, 15, 10:46:40:AM
For drug dealers the sentence should be death, at the time of arrest!

When did you join ISIS DBM?


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: dont-blameme on 07 30, 15, 10:53:11:AM
Does the government at the federal level down to the local level really want the drug problem solved? Does anyone have any ideal of how much money is taken in on a yearly basis, just on drugs alone?


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: dont-blameme on 07 30, 15, 10:57:01:AM
Looks as if BS approved of drug dealers selling death and destruction, how often do you get high in a 24 hour period BS, you're a liberal and democrat BS so don't bother to answer it answers it's self!


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: chuck_curtis on 07 30, 15, 10:59:43:AM
There are no complete answers.  Proper upbringing is the best possible action.  Government action only makes matters worse, in almost every case.  The only value of government is in holding users accountable for their actions.


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: dont-blameme on 07 30, 15, 11:04:10:AM
The only value of government is in holding users accountable for their actions.
 
But who holds government accountable for their actions, when their actions are to ignore or claim there is no wrong doing. the moral decline of America can be lain at a the feet of the liberal democrats, and some republicans that lay with them!


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: darkflower on 07 30, 15, 12:24:38:PM
The drug war itself is the problem. Just legalize all drugs and the problem will end. No more overpriced drugs, no more drug gangs, no more drug deals gone bad, all ended.

As it is now, the drug war not only creates all the above, it also is used as an excuse to violate our liberties, to smash through doors like thugs rather than knock like protectors and to take property without due process.

Selling or using drugs should not even be a crime. The real crime is what the government has done.


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: wmdn_bs on 07 30, 15, 12:40:43:PM
Looks as if BS approved of drug dealers selling death and destruction, how often do you get high in a 24 hour period BS, you're a liberal and democrat BS so don't bother to answer it answers it's self!

That's what you take away from my post DBM? I was not the person suggesting doing away with equal protection under the law. I was not the one suggesting we do away with the criminal justice system beyond giving police the authority to execute without the benefit of a trial. I am not the person suggesting we do away with presumed innocense unti proven guilty in a courtroom.
 
My question to you is how high were you when you suggested aboloishment of the Constitution of the United States and becoming an ISIS like anarchist country?


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: D2D on 07 30, 15, 12:43:26:PM
The reason we are losing the war on drugs is democrats insist the government fund the purchase of illegal drugs through welfare payments sans drug testing!


Title: Re: The War on Drugs is being lost.
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 07 30, 15, 12:49:09:PM
 Just legalize all drugs and the problem will end.


As long as they pay for their own choices economically and not expect others to pay for their lifestyle choices with handouts when they cannot(survive) work or suffer poor health by using drugs.