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Title: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Jim on 05 21, 15, 02:24:37:AM
 
No wonder the Left don't want to see it...


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: takncarabizniz on 05 21, 15, 02:31:27:AM
I have it on my list...also waiting on Unbroken and hoping it's as good as the book was.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 05 21, 15, 05:32:44:AM
looks like a great movie from the previews i have seen.  bradley cooper's accent and attitude seem perfect.  they sure took liberties with the real sniper guy, but that's hollywood for ya. 


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: DaBoz on 05 21, 15, 05:44:06:AM
Haven't seen it yet but played every FPS and a sniper is my favorite.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: willam on 05 21, 15, 08:08:39:AM
My daughter and I went to American Sniper. We sat in our seats afterward and didn't speak.

On the way home we both agreed this movie is necessary viewing.

Important FOR EVERY ADULT AMERICAN to be mindful of - what we ask of our U.S. Military members.

Chris Kyle - only did his job. Commendably.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 05 21, 15, 08:19:38:AM
no. not true.  he looted iraqi homes after they had been killed.  that is bullshit.  that is not their job.  and he was sick enough to say killing iraqis was fun.  he was in their country, hiding from far away, shooting them for rising up against foreign invaders.  sure, it was his job.  but it sure should not have been fun.  we should not have been there.  period. 


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: willam on 05 21, 15, 08:56:58:AM
He performed the duties of a U.S. Miltary sniper. He did not loot. He did not engage in any unlawful conduct.

You don't "like" the JOB American snipers are required to do - too bad for you.

Chris Kyle was ONLY doing his job. Performing the duties of a sniper - while protecting American troops - and saving their lives. Along with protecting and saving the lives of Afghan soldiers serving alongside American troops, too.

All he did was his job. And he did it all commendably.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 05 21, 15, 09:20:02:AM
you are a liar.  in his own book kyle admits he looted the homes of iraqis HE WAS USING AS A PLACE TO HIDE IN AND SHOOT IRAQI'S FROM.  you should learn to know what the hell you are talking about BEFORE you make a fool out of yourself all the time.  HE ADMITTED DOING THIS IN HIS BOOK.  get it?

On home leave from Iraq, he gets a tattoo of “a crusader cross” on the front of one arm—inadvertently fulfilling Al Qaeda’s principal stereotype of Americans. “I wanted everyone to know I was a Christian. I had it put in red, for blood.” Offhandedly, he adds: “I hated the damn savages I’d been fighting.”


“Savage, despicable evil. That’s what we were fighting in Iraq,” he writes after describing his first kill, a woman who walked into a street with a grenade in her hand as marines advanced into her village. After a moment’s hesitation, he drops her with a shot.


“That’s why a lot of people, myself included, called the enemy ‘savages,’” he writes of this scene. “There really was no other way to describe what we encountered there.”


Well, yes, of course there is. In the first weeks following the air strikes and invasion, many Iraqis, despite their loathing for Saddam Hussein, rose up against the Americans until the insurgency proved hopeless. Later, sullen, disenfranchised, and unemployed Sunnis picked up the fight, and so did nationalistic and pro-Iranian Shiites. Then came Al Qaeda’s ruthless kidnappers and suicide bombers, determined to kill Americans at all costs. Then we paid the Sunnis who had been killing us to kill them.


Many insurgents, of course, found succor among Iraqis whose homes had been evacuated, destroyed, or looted by the Americans. That’s why, after the marines evicted 250 people from an apartment complex on the edge of Fallujah, Kyle set up his sniper nest in one of the top apartments to target insurgents from above.


But despite his firsthand, multitour exposure to the conflict, Kyle seems oblivious to the notion that such tactics can be self-defeating. “To me, the home I was in was just another part of the battlefield,” he breezily observes. “The apartments and everything in them were just things to be used to accomplish our goal—clearing the city.” He even put a baby crib “to good use” as a rifle platform. Then he started “rummaging through the complex to see if I could find any cool shit—money, guns, explosives. The only thing I found worth acquisitioning was a handheld Tiger Woods game.”


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 10:05:06:AM
Kyle set up his sniper nest in one of the top apartments to target insurgents from above.

“To me, the home I was in was just another part of the battlefield,” he breezily observes. “The apartments and everything in them were just things to be used to accomplish our goal—clearing the city.” He even put a baby crib “to good use” as a rifle platform. Then he started “rummaging through the complex to see if I could find any guns, explosives. The only thing I found worth acquisition was a handheld Tiger Woods game.”

The Vietnam War’s most famous sniper, marine gunnery sergeant Carlos Hathcock, once said he agreed with Ernest Hemingway’s observation that “certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter.”

"But I never did enjoy killing anybody. It’s my job. If I don’t get those bastards, then they’re gonna kill a lot of these kids dressed up like Marines. That’s the way I look at it.”

At a minimum, history suggests life is not kind to military snipers. Nightmares, alcoholism, bar fights, car accidents, and jail stints litter their civilian records.   Of course, hundreds, maybe even thousands, of American snipers have gone on to crime-free, even happy lives after hanging up their scopes.

Kyle was shot and wounded twice while in Iraq and caught in IED (Improvised Explosive Device) explosions on 6 separate occasions. For his actions overseas, Kyle was awarded two Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars, and a host of other decorations. He rose quickly in the ranks, eventually attaining the rank of Chief Petty Officer before separating from the Navy in 2009 to spend more time with his family.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 05 21, 15, 10:07:24:AM
kyle said shooting them was fun.  deal with it. 


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 10:17:25:AM
Saving lives can be fun.   Depends on how you define 'fun"?   Kyle certainly was not an English major by any means...

Kyle was shot and wounded twice while in Iraq and caught in IED (Improvised Explosive Device) explosions on 6 separate occasions. For his actions overseas, Kyle was awarded two Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars, and a host of other decorations. He rose quickly in the ranks, eventually attaining the rank of Chief Petty Officer before separating from the Navy in 2009 to spend more time with his family.

Deal with it...


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: willam on 05 21, 15, 10:19:15:AM
He admits to looting and you condemn HIS WORK? Come on, Hoosier.

You cannot suggest he didn't perform his work duties with efficienty and proficiency - because he did.

He excelled at it. American troops depended on his calm, cool proficiency as a sniper - U.S. Military superiors needed him backing the troops on the front line up - saving their lives and saving the lives of Afghan troops too.

You appear to have read his book and been clueless as to what he did for a living. He was a sharp shooter and indeed did perform the duties of his job.

Enjoying one's work means the same thing to a sharp shooter/sniper during war time as it does to a police officer stateside who might end up killing someone any day at any time and their proficiency as a sharp shooter means the difference between keeping people safe or people dying. No one faults a police officer for loving their job too. Our police save lives ON THE JOB, too. Just like Chris Kyle did. Every single day.

Go back and read the parts where he trained and was tested and was called to duty as a sniper - over and over and over.

Praises are due to him - because of the American troop lives - he saved. They live on - as a testament of how good he was at his job as a U.S. Military sniper. Unapologetically.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: dont-blameme on 05 21, 15, 10:24:18:AM
kyle said shooting them was fun.  deal with it. 


If he said it deal with it hoosier, the point is everyone he killed could never kill another American Soldier or Marine is what you have a problem with hoosier?


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: willam on 05 21, 15, 10:28:19:AM
Watch PBS's documentary on the Navy Seals, people.

The problem with ratcheting down highly trained military troops after a period of engaged war fare is you risk not having sufficiently trained miliary personnel at the ready when the SHEEIT hits the fan- not just at time of war - but anytime our U.S. Military needs to engage in covert actions, too.

We got into serious national defense problems post World War II and Vietnam with our Navy Seal personnel - when we shut everything down and weren't keeping our nation at the ready - with sufficent numbers of HIGHLY TRAINED U.S Military proficient in doing just what Chris Kyle was paid and trained to do - every day. Be a sniper of the highest level of proficiency. Be a US Navy ready and trained to do anything and everything asked of them - when their nation demands it.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: caserio1 on 05 21, 15, 10:38:20:AM
actually the popularity of "sniper" proves one thing

there's a lot of money to be made if we bring back public executions

can you imagine the number of ads viagra would buy?

and muscle cars ?

and african safaris ?

cas wonders which form of execution would be most popular

firing squad, noisy, violent, masculine

hanging, that kicking at the end of a rope is pretty funny

lethal injection, only if we can magnify the heartbeat as it slowly comes to a halt

cas could sell thousands of ads for that show


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 10:41:05:AM
killing people who invade your country with guns and bombs seems to be the right thing to do doesn't it?

Yes.

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) used to have a different name: al-Qaeda in Iraq.

US troops and allied Sunni militias defeated al-Qaeda in Iraq during the 2007 "surge" — but didn't destroy them. The US commander in Iraq, General Ray Odierno, described the group in 2010 as down but "fundamentally the same." In 2011, the group began rebuilding, and in 2012 and 2013 freed a number of prisoners held by the Iraqi government who joined their ranks.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: caserio1 on 05 21, 15, 10:51:09:AM
killing is fun for some people

for most it's unnatural

sometimes it even effects the killer more than the killed................imagine that


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: willam on 05 21, 15, 10:51:43:AM
We have to have a defense. And every U.S. president has responded to attacks on our nation ON OUR SOIL with military might. Not just meritless speeches.

Should Obama have sent the US Navy Seals in to execute Osama Bin Laden based on the intelligence he was given? Or held hands with Michelle and Joe in the White House and let Bin Laden live on and on and on?

Highly trained Navy Seals aimed their weaponry and took him out with calm, cool sniper accuracy. And a grateful nation says THANK YOU to our Seals for that. And we all say thank you to Chris Kyle, too - for saving all of those American troop lives - every time he raised up his weaponry and protected each and every one of them.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: KensanIV on 05 21, 15, 10:51:50:AM
Ya know it is not a lot of comfort to know that Hoosier the gay loser,  Caserio and Wvit stand against American troops who are sent into a war zone to defend our democracy and to stand with our allies with whom we have agreed to help defend from these innocent terrorists who (of course) have no weapons and are not engaged in any action.

Obviously they were just minding their own business when these radical Americans just invaded their country and started to kill innocents.

When and if these terrorists win.. There will be no mercy for asshats named above if they are victorious

Reminds me of a statement in Dante's Inferno about those who practice neutrality getting the hottest rings of hell.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: caserio1 on 05 21, 15, 10:57:57:AM
yeah well we killed saddam for the towers

how much more revenge do you want?


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: takncarabizniz on 05 21, 15, 11:07:47:AM
Hoosier, he said others looted and he only found a game, didn't say he took it...


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 11:08:30:AM
We captured Saddam, the Iraqi's executed him, Cas...


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: willam on 05 21, 15, 11:09:11:AM
We killed because our intelligence told us of the threat. The same intelligence advised Bush of threats as did Obama.

The minute your report on here that Obama regrets ordering his highly trained Navy Seals to take out Osama Bin Laden by sniper accurate efficiency - will be the day we all believe Bush somehow regrets ordering up the death of Saddam Hussein too.

You keep right on believing Obama will apologize for that.

Right...


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: caserio1 on 05 21, 15, 11:43:15:AM
sw

doan insult my intelligence with such crap, ok?


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 11:57:07:AM
I didn't Cas, what little you have left...


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: caserio1 on 05 21, 15, 11:59:29:AM
yer right

yer not smart enough fer that


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 12:01:46:PM
((yeah well we killed saddam for the towers))


We captured Saddam, the Iraqi's executed him after his trial, Cas...   He was after all a mass murderer.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Dan on 05 21, 15, 12:10:09:PM
I enjoyed American Sniper, but didn't care that much for Unbroken.  It was not pleasant to watch gratuitous beating when you knew there was no chance for retaliation.  His "victory" was merely that he endured the suffering and survived.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: caserio1 on 05 21, 15, 12:15:03:PM
bullshit

he was killed to shut him up

he could have embarrassed a couple of american politicians big time

and doan say the iraqis did it they din do anything without our permission not a thing


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 05 21, 15, 01:22:36:PM
blammie and jerkwater probably would kiss the ass of any foreign soldiers that invaded and occupied this country.  that is why they are able to think of kyle as a hero for killing those who would fight against foreign occupiers. 


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 01:28:53:PM
killing people who invade your country with guns and bombs seems to be the right thing to do doesn't it?  - wvit.

Yes.

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) used to have a different name: al-Qaeda in Iraq.

US troops and allied Sunni militias defeated al-Qaeda in Iraq during the 2007 "surge" — but didn't destroy them. The US commander in Iraq, General Ray Odierno, described the group in 2010 as down but "fundamentally the same." In 2011, the group began rebuilding, and in 2012 and 2013 freed a number of prisoners held by the Iraqi government who joined their ranks.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 01:30:53:PM
We know Hooty would kiss the ass of any foreign soldiers that invaded and occupied this country.   He refuses to arm against them or any other threat....


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: caserio1 on 05 21, 15, 01:35:24:PM
just cuz cas doan correct you doan mean cas agrees


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 01:40:43:PM
Good to see you siding with Saddam against our troops, Cas...   It fits...


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: caserio1 on 05 21, 15, 01:42:23:PM
conversely

it's not good watching you indulge yer stupidity

but

expected


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 05 21, 15, 01:44:30:PM
saddam was never one of kyle's targets, you silly moron.  god.  could somebody dart these heathens?  like i said, blammie and jerkwater and other chickenhawks would kiss the ass of foreign invaders here, and that is why they think kyle is such a great hero.  they would think the same of some muslim guy who sat on top of the Superdome shooting americans he deemed a threat to his fellow muslim occupiers. 


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 02:18:01:PM
Good to see you siding with Saddam against our troops, Cas...   It fits...


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: HK91-762mm on 05 21, 15, 02:21:29:PM
We know Hooty would kiss the ass of any foreign soldiers that invaded and occupied this country.   He refuses to arm against them or any other threat.



  This great country will never be invaded by an outside force ==There would be a gun behind every blade of grass!!![seems I have heard that before ]

I suspect the downfall of the USA will come from within !


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Jim on 05 21, 15, 02:33:10:PM
 
Its always head shaking to watch non-military, non-combat weenies giving their take on someone else's service to their country.
 
What pisses Hoosier, and those like him, off so much is that Chris Kyle was a mans man, a gun owner, Christian, and obviously politically Right sided.  Had Chis Kyle been a Gay Democrat Hoosier would be masturbating every time the name Chris Kyle was mentioned.  Anyone who has ever had any contact with Hoosier can attest that he literally Hates anything not noticeably on the Left.

Btw: If a place has been abandoned, it is not "looting" to see what they left behind.
 


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: bhsgrad1972 on 05 21, 15, 02:39:15:PM
I haven't seen American Sniper yet, but I want to.  Hopefully we can rent the DVD soon.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Jim on 05 21, 15, 02:43:48:PM
 
Weenie


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 05 21, 15, 02:52:02:PM
a man's man, if you are gay.  he looted the homes of iraqis.  he said it was fun to kill iraqis.  he claimed he went to the top of the superdome and shot civilians.  he claimed he was carjacked one night, pulled a dirty harry move on them and shot them dead.  but no bodies ever found, no footage of anything at the gas station.  he claimed he never made any money off his book, but he made millions.  he claimed he punched out a real man, jesse ventura, was proved to be a lying weasel and had to pay some of his book money to ventura.  that is your hero.  he was a punk. 


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 05 21, 15, 02:55:01:PM
Libs/Dems/Weenies didn't like the movie because:

- it had guns and shooting (it scares them)

- it showed Muslims doing the horrible things they always do (Islam, religion of Peace and Love - BS!!!)

- it showed Muslims getting the killing they deserved (Libs LOVE Muslims for some cockeyed reason)

- it involved a war that the Libs/Dems didn't agree with (they VOTED in FAVOR of it!!)

- the star (and actor) was a Texan which conjures up thoughts of Conservatives, Christians and Republicans

- the movie kicked butt at the Box Office and made Normal People go see it instead of going to a movie about Libs and Negroes
   marching across a bridge in the Old South


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 02:56:46:PM
Kyle was shot and wounded twice while in Iraq and caught in IED (Improvised Explosive Device) explosions on 6 separate occasions. For his actions overseas, Kyle was awarded two Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars, and a host of other decorations. He rose quickly in the ranks, eventually attaining the rank of Chief Petty Officer before separating from the Navy in 2009 to spend more time with his family.

Deal with it...


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 05 21, 15, 02:59:32:PM
and he was a punk in real life.  that does not preclude you from being a good sniper.  why do you think one denies the other.  i admit he was good at his job.  but he was still a lying asshole. 


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 03:10:42:PM
I do not care about his private life out of the service and neither should you.   It is irrelevant to the heroic job he did saving American and Iraqi lives at the risk of his own death several times.

 It is not like the homosexual traitor in prison for selling out our troops in Iraq who now wants to be a "girl", is it?


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Jim on 05 21, 15, 03:12:34:PM
 
Like I said. If he's not a Gay Democrat then the Left will focus only on and build on the negatives..


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 05 21, 15, 03:15:47:PM
so somebody claiming he never took money from his book, that he gave it all to veterans, and it is all a lie, does not bother you?  claiming to have shot americans from ambush does not bother you? claiming he killed two carjackers with a dirty harry move does not bother you?  lying about kicking jesse ventura's ass, a guy about 30 years older than him, does not bother you?  looting iraqi homes does not bother you?  saying it is fun to kill iraqi savages, in their own country, does not bother you?  then okay.  you are as warped as he was. 


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: upyrwazoo on 05 21, 15, 03:17:13:PM
waiting on Unbroken and hoping it's as good as the book was.


YOU WILL BE DISAPPOINTED AS THE MOVIE DIFFERS FROM THE BOOK AND THE REAL LIFE STORY IN THAT WHEN HE RETURNED TO THIS COUNTRY HE WAS SCARRED BY HIS EXPERIENCES AND TURNED TO ALCHOHOL AND WAS NASTY TO HIS WIFE, HE TURNED HIS LIFE AROUND AFTER EMBRACING RELIGION BUT THAT PART IS LEFT COMPLETELY OUT OF THE MOVIE! NOT SURPRISING CONSIDERING THE PRODUCER!

ALSO WHAT IS NOT SURPRISING IS THE ATTITUDE OF NON MILITARY TYPES LIKE HOOSIER WHO CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE COURAGE OF THOSE WHO SERVE AS THEY DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN COMMON WITH THEM, THEY KNOW THEY ARE NOT AS GOOD AS THEM SO THEY DENIGRATE THEM!


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 03:33:21:PM
I do not care about his private life out of the service, hooty and neither should you.   It is irrelevant to the heroic job he did saving American and Iraqi lives at the risk of his own death several times.

It is not like the homosexual traitor in prison for selling out our troops in Iraq who now wants to be a "girl", is it?


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 05 21, 15, 03:36:41:PM
HORZ-BOY says:

"and he was a punk in real life.  that does not preclude you from being a good sniper.  why do you think one denies the other.  i admit he was good at his job.  but he was still a lying asshole. "


Talk about a double standard!!!!


Let's think about that statement and Bill Clinton who is a serial womanizer and received fellatio in the Oval Office of OUR White House!


"and he was a punk in real life.  that does not preclude you from being a good President.  why do you think one denies the other.  i admit he was good at his job.  but he was still a lying asshole. "


Bill Clinton = Punk in real life. A lying asshole. Good at his job.


Libs say it's bad when it's our guy, but not a problem when it's their guy!!!!!!!


Libs are such IDIOTS!!!!  You can't make this stuff up!!!!!





Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Dan on 05 21, 15, 03:37:57:PM
Quote
ALSO WHAT IS NOT SURPRISING IS THE ATTITUDE OF NON MILITARY TYPES LIKE HOOSIER WHO CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE COURAGE OF THOSE WHO SERVE AS THEY DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN COMMON WITH THEM, THEY KNOW THEY ARE NOT AS GOOD AS THEM SO THEY DENIGRATE THEM!

I've noticed that as well.  They denigrate that which they do not understand.  Religious folks and those who maintain a moral code are other examples of people they will trash.

They have not been exposed to such people.  They cannot relate to them.  They do not understand them.  Therefore they trash them.  It's disgusting and pathetic.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 05 21, 15, 03:43:47:PM
i understand everything in the world better than you, nancy dan.

HORZ-BOY says:

"and he was a punk in real life.  that does not preclude you from being a good sniper.  why do you think one denies the other.  i admit he was good at his job.  but he was still a lying asshole. "


Talk about a double standard!!!!


Let's think about that statement and Bill Clinton who is a serial womanizer and received fellatio in the Oval Office of OUR White House!


"and he was a punk in real life.  that does not preclude you from being a good President.  why do you think one denies the other.  i admit he was good at his job.  but he was still a lying asshole. "


Bill Clinton = Punk in real life. A lying asshole. Good at his job.


Libs say it's bad when it's our guy, but not a problem when it's their guy!!!!!!!


Libs are such IDIOTS!!!!  You can't make this stuff up!!!!!







and getting a hummer from a consensual fairly hot woman is not bad, sissy.  in fact, it is awesomely good.  you are just a screwed up wimp.  no wonder you had to turn to goats. 


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Dan on 05 21, 15, 03:45:42:PM
Quote
i understand everything in the world better than you, dan.

You told us that you don't understand religious practices.  So no, you don't understand everything better than I.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sine-qua-non on 05 21, 15, 03:46:36:PM
sounds like he didnt feel so "Justified" before Gods judgement in

every killing shot he made as he said he did, after all

Uppy!

i agree, the movie portays him in ways that he wasnt

but then this was a Hollyweird military rah rah movie

and not a documentary which tried to be accurate!


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Jim on 05 21, 15, 03:48:08:PM
 
This is why there are no more Hero's. Because those who would never be a hero will pick apart those who dare attempt to be called a hero. They did it with all the older hero's. They picked apart all the old Hollywood actors we once looked up to, they've even turned Superman, Batman, the Arrow and other fantasy characters into darker characters.  There is no longer anyone to look up to. Not for kids, not for adults, not for anyone. 
 
If the good guy does not actually "belong" 100% to the Left, then that good guy must be marginalized or even destroyed.. Even if you need to attack a down syndrome baby to do it.

 


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Dan on 05 21, 15, 03:50:29:PM
And the left will excuse or ignore the flaws of their leftist heroes.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 05 21, 15, 03:52:31:PM
If it was totally up to the Libs, all the heroes would be Negro Fag Atheists disguised as abortion doctors in the ghetto.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Jim on 05 21, 15, 03:53:47:PM
 
Case in point:  Einstein is a bigger inspiration than Jesus: Study reveals (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?topic=208814.msg1662863#msg1662863)


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sine-qua-non on 05 21, 15, 04:06:27:PM
not so

Chuck Norris friend of Steve McQueen took the hero mantel from the 'Duke'

after he died!


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Dan on 05 21, 15, 04:08:10:PM
But he inspired a lot more people than Einstein.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 04:11:01:PM
Jesus was most probably a real person and an inspiration to people. But he wasn't a god and he wasn't the son of a god.


And you know this as fact, how?   Show us your proof?    Even Einstein could not dismiss what you do, wvit.

Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.  God is subtle but he is not malicious. - Einstein


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: upyrwazoo on 05 21, 15, 04:11:49:PM
THE MOST DECORATED SOLDIER IN WW2 AUDIE MURPHY SLEPT WITH A .45 UNDER HIS PILLOW FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE!


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sine-qua-non on 05 21, 15, 04:14:13:PM
But he wasn't a god and he wasn't the son of a god.



since he fulfiiled 4 thousand years of prophecy to the letter

thats a ignorant statement!

you have the Lucifarian veiwpoint down pat, i see!


many Jews even a few Pharisees believed him!

you're out of your monkey tree on this one nitwit!


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: upyrwazoo on 05 21, 15, 04:30:03:PM
Uppy!

i agree, the movie portays him in ways that he wasnt

but then this was a Hollyweird military rah rah movie

and not a documentary which tried to be accurate!


I WAS REFERRING TO THE MOVIE "UNBROKEN" NOT AMERICAN SNIPER. HOLLYWOOD TOTALLY DISMISSED THE IMPACT OF RELIGION ON THIS MAN!


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 04:31:42:PM
None of the Jews believe Jesus was divine


Except for the many Jewish-Christians that continued His religion after His crucifixion or the Jews for Jesus, today...


We should take care not to make the intellect our god; it has, of course, powerful muscles, but no personality
.  -  Einstein


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: caserio1 on 05 21, 15, 04:43:46:PM
leftwingers make fun of downs syndrome sufferers???

are you kidding me?

cas stopped answering boz posts cuz he called everybody he didn't like a mongoloid or mongol and for the uninformed

they are both the same thing

and that nitwit is 100% right wing

lemme give you a bit of advice..........lying to people makes yer value less


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: caserio1 on 05 21, 15, 04:51:04:PM
cas has worked with down's sufferers

and finds making sport of them inhuman


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 05:12:02:PM
The more I study science, the more I believe in God. ~Albert Einstein


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Dan on 05 21, 15, 05:40:19:PM
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dan seems to have created a new personality in caserio1.  why do you do things like this dan?

Now you've done it.  You had to go and commit forum suicide, didn't you?

It was nice knowing you ...


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Dan on 05 21, 15, 05:41:34:PM
Wvit didn't even notice Caserio is a big lib like he is.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 21, 15, 05:45:16:PM
(http://www.rightposters.com/images/posters/thomas_jefferson_jesus.jpg)

This quote comes from a letter that Jefferson wrote to Charles Thomson, formerly the secretary of the Continental Congress, on January 9, 1816.


Jefferson lived in a world where political rulers routinely established a single sect of faith as the official religion. He promoted religious freedom in order to secure the rights of differing religions and to protect the freedom of an individual to practice the religion of their choosing.

The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth was created in 1820 by Thomas Jefferson. He was seventy-seven years old when he constructed his book by cutting excerpts of the New Testament Gospels from six printed volumes published in English, French, Latin and Greek. Jefferson edited and arranged the passages in a chronological order to tell the story of Jesus’s life, parables and moral teachings.

Jefferson’s goal was to clarify the teachings of Jesus which he believed provided “the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man.”

The Government Printing Office published a facsimile of the Jefferson Bible in 1904 which was distributed to the two chambers of Congress. Following elections each newly elected senator was presented with a copy of the book until the supply ran out in the 1950′s.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Dan on 05 21, 15, 05:48:13:PM
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sorta like your old dard character.

I thought he was YOUR character.  He sounded just like you.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: upyrwazoo on 05 21, 15, 05:54:12:PM
lemme give you a bit of advice..........lying to people makes yer value less                                                                                       
                        
                        
YOU SHOULD FOLLOW YOUR OWN ADVICE! BUT THEN YOU HAVE NO VALUE TO LESSEN!


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: caserio1 on 05 21, 15, 06:06:44:PM
every post waz posts is a personal attack on cas

cas's question is

when are you gonna have a thought?  does it still hurt when you try to think?

do it slowly at first, that might help


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Jw2 on 05 21, 15, 06:29:46:PM
poor daniel.  he lacks character.  I see that most of aesops conservatives are the sensitive types.  that's so gay.  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: Dan on 05 21, 15, 06:34:25:PM
Keep the personal attacks to yourself, John.  We don't need any more people ruining civil discourse here.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 05 21, 15, 07:12:01:PM
(http://www.rightposters.com/images/posters/thomas_jefferson_jesus.jpg)

This quote comes from a letter that Jefferson wrote to Charles Thomson, formerly the secretary of the Continental Congress, on January 9, 1816.


Jefferson lived in a world where political rulers routinely established a single sect of faith as the official religion. He promoted religious freedom in order to secure the rights of differing religions and to protect the freedom of an individual to practice the religion of their choosing.

The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth was created in 1820 by Thomas Jefferson. He was seventy-seven years old when he constructed his book by cutting excerpts of the New Testament Gospels from six printed volumes published in English, French, Latin and Greek. Jefferson edited and arranged the passages in a chronological order to tell the story of Jesus’s life, parables and moral teachings.

Jefferson’s goal was to clarify the teachings of Jesus which he believed provided “the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man.”

The Government Printing Office published a facsimile of the Jefferson Bible in 1904 which was distributed to the two chambers of Congress. Following elections each newly elected senator was presented with a copy of the book until the supply ran out in the 1950′s.



Letter from Thomas Jefferson to John Adams
Thomas Jefferson
April 11, 1823

Jefferson attacks Calvin, predestination, the immaculate conception and other facets of Christianity.

DEAR SIR, -- The wishes expressed, in your last favor, that I may continue in life and health until I become a Calvinist, at least in his exclamation of `mon Dieu! jusque à quand'! would make me immortal. I can never join Calvin in addressing his god. He was indeed an Atheist, which I can never be; or rather his religion was Daemonism. If ever man worshipped a false god, he did. The being described in his 5. points is not the God whom you and I acknolege and adore, the Creator and benevolent governor of the world; but a daemon of malignant spirit. It would be more pardonable to believe in no god at all, than to blaspheme him by the atrocious attributes of Calvin. Indeed I think that every Christian sect gives a great handle to Atheism by their general dogma that, without a revelation, there would not be sufficient proof of the being of a god. Now one sixth of mankind only are supposed to be Christians: the other five sixths then, who do not believe in the Jewish and Christian revelation, are without a knolege of the existence of a god!

And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter




  i wonder why fake christians like you who try so hard to defend christianity and jesus as being divine, don't even attempt to live your life like jesus did and like he taught?  how hypocritical is that, boy?


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: sine-qua-non on 05 21, 15, 07:21:13:PM
cas's question is ....

 ....






Who was it that put that question to you,

and

did it hurt or where you to CS to try?





Tom Jefferson,

See?

He isnt a Christian either!

He thinks Jesus was a good philosopher by his remarks, but not divinity in the flesh
which is what a Chrstian believes, naturally.

As the Christ even said, 'believe on me, and be saved," as it ever was from he time of the fall.
No mere man has ever done the things he did before or after.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: DaBoz on 05 22, 15, 05:29:43:AM
Why does jw2 smear gays.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: KensanIV on 05 22, 15, 10:33:25:AM
Because he has looked deeply into his soul, and deep down he is afraid to admit that he is gay.


Title: Re: Just watched "American Sniper"
Post by: willam on 05 22, 15, 10:59:42:AM
And yet these very same founding fathers - allowed for Americans to be free to practice religion or not.

Ah, how insecure Christian factions must hate that.

In fact - George Washington and Thomas Jefferson et al, didn't care if you adhered to any Christian dictate - all you "needed" to be - was an American to be considered to be an American - by them. Uh, all you had to be - was a WHITE person, that is. To be considered for all of those rights and privileges - under their constitution. That assured the world - our founding fathers considered "all" persons to be free persons. Really they did - as they all went home to their slaves - and raped their slaves, too.

Our proud American History and founding fathers - what a hoot - sometimes.

Chris Kyle - still is who he was. A U.S Military veteran we all are proud of - to this day. For his service to us all four times over - deployed to the front line of war.  Following the orders of his superiors - over and over and over. Saving the lives of his fellow American servicemen and women - time and time again.