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Title: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 04 19, 15, 12:07:09:PM
OKLAHOMA CITY — About 1,000 gathered at the former site of the Oklahoma City federal building to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the terrorist bombing there that killed 168 people and injured many others.

Former President Bill Clinton and Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin were among those who spoke at Sunday's service at the Oklahoma City National Memorial, where the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building once stood.

The service started with a 168-second moment of silence and concluded with survivors and tearful relatives of the dead reading the names of those killed in the April 19, 1995, attack.

Timothy McVeigh, an Army veteran with strong anti-government views, was executed for carrying out the bombing. His accomplice, Terry Nichols, is serving life in prison.

At the time, it was the deadliest attack on U.S. soil.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/300582041.html

he timed the bombing of the day care center at the federal building so that it was the same day the right wing christian extremists, gun nut pedophiles who worshipped david koresh also died when they were killed by koresh and his head loons or committed suicide on their own, rather than face murder and gun and pedophilia charges.  that is how gun nut timothy mcveigh decided to "honor" that right wing asshole- by parking his bomb laden truck closest to the day care center of the federal building. he said toddlers and babies were legitimate targets.  i guess ben carson would compare tim mcveigh to our founding fathers, too. 


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 04 19, 15, 12:13:30:PM
Add McVeigh to the long list of atheists who was also a mass murderer...

McVeigh, was a self-proclaimed atheist, whose mantra was "Science is my religion."


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Byteryder on 04 19, 15, 12:16:05:PM
Cant you EVER get out of yesteryear?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: willam on 04 19, 15, 12:28:44:PM
Byter -  yesterday in this case was literally the blink of an eye ago. I had two children under five I was raising at the time - so the deaths of those children in the Day Care Center that McVeigh and Nichols intentionally targetted - hit me hard. Real, real HARD.

I will never forget and will always be impacted by the terrorist actions of choice of Al Qaeda's mass murdering suicidal operatives on 9/11. And the Boston Marathon bombing too.

We WILL see others commit planned acts of terrorism on American soil. We sure as hell had never, ever forget what happened in OK City and New York City and Boston too - and the INDEFENSIBLE lowly reasons why each person choosing to commit those crimes chose to - be blood thirsting mass murdering terrorists.


Americans need to never, ever FORGET - the innocent targeted victims. Continuing to discuss and revere Timothy McVeigh like idoators of terrorism that we are - disserves them every single day.

ALL Timothy McVeigh was - was a COMMON CRIMINAL. And he ended up paying the price for that choice of his. DEATH.



Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: willam on 04 19, 15, 12:28:44:PM
Byter -  yesterday in this case was literally the blink of an eye ago. I had two children under five I was raising at the time - so the deaths of those children in the Day Care Center that McVeigh and Nichols intentionally targetted - hit me hard. Real, real HARD.

I will never forget and will always be impacted by the terrorist actions of choice of Al Qaeda's mass murdering suicidal operatives on 9/11. And the Boston Marathon bombing too.

We WILL see others commit planned acts of terrorism on American soil. We sure as hell had never, ever forget what happened in OK City and New York City and Boston too - and the INDEFENSIBLE lowly reasons why each person choosing to commit those crimes chose to - be blood thirsting mass murdering terrorists.


Americans need to never, ever FORGET - the innocent targeted victims. Continuing to discuss and revere Timothy McVeigh like idoators of terrorism that we are - disserves them every single day.

ALL Timothy McVeigh was - was a COMMON CRIMINAL. And he ended up paying the price for that choice of his. DEATH.



Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: darkflower on 04 19, 15, 12:29:21:PM
McVeigh was born a christian, raised a christian, lived as a christian, and died a christian.

So much for the religion of peace.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: darkflower on 04 19, 15, 12:31:09:PM
ALL Timothy McVeigh was - was a COMMON CRIMINAL. And he ended up paying the price for that choice of his. DEATH.

True. That is true of all terrorists, they are all nothing but common criminals.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 04 19, 15, 12:31:53:PM
McVeigh was a self-proclaimed atheist, whose mantra was "Science is my religion."

To worship at the altar of science is, of course, idolatry and not Christianity.

With science as his religion, the terrorist Timothy McVeigh was much
closer to being a Nazi than a Christian. When a Dr. Nyiszli asked the
Nazi butcher Joseph Mengele, in Auschwitz: “When will all this
extermination cease?”, Mengele answered, “My friend! It will go on,
and on, and on.”

To be sure, many times the Nazi analogy is too quickly invoked or
misapplied. But, when it comes to those, like McVeigh, who claim their
cause justifies mass murder, the comparison is accurate and deserved.




Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 19, 15, 12:34:13:PM
McVeigh was born a christian, raised a christian, lived as a christian, and died a christian.

darkweed, are agnostics Christians?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: cathlab3 on 04 19, 15, 12:35:43:PM
McVeigh was born a christian, raised a christian, lived as a christian, and died a christian.

I wish we had 100,000 more just like him.
He did what he thought he had to do ,it's a shame he didn't know there were kids in the building. Could it be the left knew about this and were hiding behind the daycare center just as Islamic terrorists hide behind women and children ?  Much like hoser hiding behind his mothers ample rear end.


On second thought   we probably have more like 100,000,000  people like him waiting in the woods for Obama's Islamic army to attack. Then we'll see who the real Americans are.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 19, 15, 12:39:52:PM
cathlab, you think there should be 100,000 more terrorists out killing innocent people? that is crazy!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: willam on 04 19, 15, 12:45:48:PM
Are Al Qaeda terrorists right wing terrorists or left wing nut terrorists?

What's the point of suggesting right or left wing.

It's not like Tsarnaev or McVeigh were Bush supporters or foreign born Al Qaeda's legion of blood thirsting terorrists who boarded planes and directed them into the twin towers were supporters of left wing leader Obama.

So let's focus on the intentionally terrorist crimes of choice and the COMMON CRIMINAL individuals who chose to perpetrate them.

What we LEARN from what each of them chose to do -  is they were voluntarily willing to kill and harm innocent human beings - for no justifiable or criminally defensible reason - at all.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: DaBoz on 04 19, 15, 12:46:10:PM
Lets all remember the consequences of Oppressive Govt and WACO.

Janet Rino took responsibility for it and no one was punished for it.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: darkflower on 04 19, 15, 12:47:00:PM
The nazis were christians too.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 19, 15, 12:48:24:PM
darkweed, McVeigh said he was an agnostic, is that Christian?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: cathlab3 on 04 19, 15, 12:48:53:PM
We will need 100,000 Americans acting like terrorists to fight the coming Obama invasion. I just hope we survive the initial nuke attacks on the cities.
When they take the cities the so called rednecks that have organized since Clinton will be our saviors. Look for them where you can not see, search for them in the most unusual places. Call for them when you need the Flag and count on them when you are desperate for help and safety. Behind every tree , blade of grass, large rock and burned out car you will find them defending our Country. We did it in WW2  and WW1 only this time it will be on our own soil. We will shine, we will prevail and the USA will be renewed.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: DaBoz on 04 19, 15, 12:51:47:PM
McVeigh said he was an agnostic, is that Christian?

It is to a Muzzie.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: darkflower on 04 19, 15, 12:52:00:PM
He said he was agnostic and yet still took sacrament, and was still born, raised, and lived a christian. He was not raised an atheist nor did he flat out refute god.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 19, 15, 12:52:48:PM
WOW, cathlab...

Sounds like you are trying to stir up sedition and treason..

Typical republican boob...

Dismissed..,

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Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 19, 15, 12:54:09:PM
fighting an invasion or revolting against an illegal government, is one thing. killing un protected innocents is another. McVeigh's fight wasn't with the secretaries, the janitors and all the other people there who had absolutely nothing to do with Waco/ruby ridge!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: willam on 04 19, 15, 12:55:35:PM
So mass murdering/suicidal David Koresh who locked the doors of his cult compound and wouldn't release women and children being held there - and instead DOOMED THEM ALL to their deaths because he had a felony warrant out for his arrest - is akin to what again? 9/11 and OK City bombing?

Janet Reno is dishonestly cast this time as a COMMON CRIMINAL?

Come on...

No one considers the actions of choice of alleged felon David Koresh to be akin to those of an innocent man who was subsequently wronged by the US Government.

All Koresh had to do - was surrender. Or at the very least - let his indoctrinated cult members go. Timothy McVeigh knew that. And he ignored that fact - when he ABUSED Waco, Texas as some form of criminal defense for his actions of choice.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: DaBoz on 04 19, 15, 12:55:43:PM
All those FBI agents he aimed the attack at , somehow were not there.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 19, 15, 12:57:20:PM
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.

he claimed to be an agnostic, darkweed, you wish him to be something else, so that, as usual, you can disparage something. you are one sick, sad puppy!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 19, 15, 12:57:53:PM
seahooker, if you think for a MOMENT that "I" condone what McVeigh did, you are very much mistaken...

But then, the gop can't see beyond it's OWN shit covered glasses..

Dismissed..,

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Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: cathlab3 on 04 19, 15, 12:58:19:PM
Bill Ayers, a friend and hero of Obama  bombed and killed state federal and city employees . he did not pay for it with his life.
Is he as bad as McVeigh ?   Ayers is actually a hero of the left ,why should we feel the same about McVeigh ?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 19, 15, 12:59:46:PM
Liberals are exactly like McVeigh.  Therefore all liberals are terrotlrists.  Nancy teabagger proves it.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 19, 15, 01:00:49:PM
Again, a half assed "ASS"umption on YOUR part, dan..

Nothing more..

Like I said, the gop can't see BEYOND their OWN shit colored glasses..

Dismissed..,

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Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 19, 15, 01:01:44:PM
Really reaching, ain't ya, Cath?

You STILL have NOTHING on Obama, but your pathetic republican mewls..

Dismissed..,

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Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: DaBoz on 04 19, 15, 01:06:49:PM
Republicans are the Terrorists worst nightmare. That's why they Hate Bush.


Obama says Republicans are the ENEMY,,, not the unmentioned Islamic Terrorists.


Obama stands against the wrong people,,AMERICANS


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: willam on 04 19, 15, 01:10:16:PM
DaBoz - David Koresh didn't intentionally murder his cult members by refusing to allow them to exit the compound - women and CHILDREN included?

Come on.

You can't spin that.

The FBI - they knew targetted victims of David Koresh were inside - what were they supposed to do - walk away and allow Koresh to continue to rape children - on and on and on?

Koresh made his CHOICE - and HE murdered his cult members by choosing to take them down with him. One by one. Jim Jones style.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: darkflower on 04 19, 15, 01:11:28:PM
Republicans are terrorists and bush is among the worst terrorists in history.

If you meant islamic terrorists, they love republicans, republicans give them aid by providing such great recruitment material.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 19, 15, 01:18:38:PM
LOLOLOL!!

You republican "BOOBS" keep praising your fallen hero, bush lite,  and his failures..

You STILL have NOTHING on Obama.

Your lil girl panties, like your dumbness is showing again, republican clowns.

It's HILARIOUS to watch you guys "wiggle and whine."

*Snicker..*

Dismissed..,

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Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: DaBoz on 04 19, 15, 01:19:21:PM
William

David Koresh could have been picked up in town with no deaths at several times prior to the slaughter. Him and His cult were targeted and intentionally smeared with unproven charges of some kind of child sexual misconduct and illegal arms storage.

There is no spin on facts as they occurred and have been uncovered.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Byteryder on 04 19, 15, 01:23:46:PM
What an exercise in Partisan stupidity.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 19, 15, 01:24:36:PM
seahooker, if you think for a MOMENT that "I" condone what McVeigh did, you are very much mistaken...

But then, the gop can't see beyond it's OWN shit covered glasses..

Dismissed..,

Don't flatter yourself as I have no idea what you are referring to. I do my best to ignore you and never mentioned you at all in this post. my attention was mostly on cathlab and darkweed!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: willam on 04 19, 15, 01:26:34:PM
Darkflower - ISIS - which is friendly talk to Obama - just took over another Iraq city nearby Baghdad. Under Obama. Not Bush.

You tell me - who is terrorist friendly and loving it? Apparentlly OUR enemy - ISIS/Al Qaeda/The Taliban - for the past eight long years.

As Obama prepares to hand the middle east back to them - upon his "retirement" from public service. Too bad for us and for the world that is pining for an end to terrorism - that Obama has made no foreign policy inroads at all - toward peace.

We all know Iran is going nowhere, nor do they care to.

What will be Obama record of success as a Commander in Chief or President on the international foreign policy stage?

Good luck recording that - on here.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 19, 15, 01:27:43:PM
Yea, you do. seahooker

You and your repub moron pals stupidly think that Democrats and Liberals condone his actions and have him for some kind of hero..

ALL of you republican boobs do.

You are almost TOO laughable....

Almost...

Dismissed..,

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Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: willam on 04 19, 15, 01:32:47:PM
YOU all re-elected him.

Of course YOU condone him and his actions OF CHOICE.

For all time. Why is it again - in 2012 - no dem challenged Obama for the presidency?

Why is it again - Romney and Ryan were the lesser choice and dems weren't just feeling entitled about keeping dysfunctioning corrupted Obama in place?

Record one by one - Obama's actual foreign policy successes - not just his numbing irrelevant speeches. Time and time again.

Don't fault any GOP registered voter - for what DEM chose to nominate and stick us all with  - back in 2008 AND 2012. When we all had Hilary as a choice back in 2008 and 2012 too.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 04 19, 15, 01:33:57:PM
hate to burst the right wing snot bubbles, but he took the last communion as a catholic.  that means he was a christian, by the textbook, when he died.  why do right wingers lies so much, especially the ones who CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIANS?  THEY ARE THE BIGGEST LIARS OF ALL. 


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 19, 15, 01:35:03:PM
WHY in hell would we elect a republican boob, william?

The repubs have proven, repeatedly, that they are disasters at leadership and getting ANYTHING done for the people of this nation.

So Obama was elected twice.

At least it isn't the TOTAL failure of bush lite and his regime..

Puzzle on that one for a while, I dare you..

LOLOLOL!

Dismissed..,

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Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 19, 15, 01:40:37:PM
bitchcrow feather, since you called me out, I will answer. I don't believe anyone, democrats, republicans, independents, homophobes, gays, lesbians, liberals or any other group or individuals, would condone McVeigh's action, unless they are nuts!

is that clear enough for you?

please don't call me out again as I prefer to ignore your stupidity!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: willam on 04 19, 15, 01:41:25:PM
So all of Mitt Romney's successes as the Governor of a BLUE STATE - raising the unemployment rate, balancing the state budget, instituting health care reform that sustainably still is in place for every single Massachusetts resident long before Obama was even a US Senator  - is the stuf you ignored - when you considered him as a presidential candidate in 2012? That is on you not me.

Romney had a better record as a candidate for presidency - than Obama - whose Obamacare is still needing more fixes - and Romney's health care reform is in place and equitably working for ALL in Massachusetts - because HE worked effectively with democrats to make that happen. The right way.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 19, 15, 01:45:58:PM
MUHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

seahooker, you horse's ass, I WILL Call you out when I feel it is necessary..

Go screw yourself into the ground with the other repub loser's boy..

You are full of shit and I AM calling you AND your fucked in the head republican 'butt buddies' out on it.

Not a goddamn thing you can do about it either..

Now go stand in a corner and don't forget your dunce hat.

dismissed..,

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Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 19, 15, 01:47:26:PM
One thing though, William...

Romney didn't have the balls to be President, so he was left in the musty dusty..

Too bad...

Dismissed.,

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Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 04 19, 15, 02:38:28:PM
McVeigh was a self-proclaimed atheist, whose mantra was "Science is my religion."

To worship at the altar of science is, of course, idolatry and not Christianity.

With science as his religion, the terrorist Timothy McVeigh was much
closer to being a Nazi than a Christian. When a Dr. Nyiszli asked the
Nazi butcher Joseph Mengele, in Auschwitz: “When will all this
extermination cease?”, Mengele answered, “My friend! It will go on,
and on, and on.”

To be sure, many times the Nazi analogy is too quickly invoked or
misapplied. But, when it comes to those, like McVeigh, who claim their
cause justifies mass murder, the comparison is accurate and deserved.

Add McVeigh to the long list of atheists who committed mass murder in the 20th Century...   Hundreds of millions and counting not including any war dead.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jim on 04 19, 15, 03:31:10:PM
 
So, its been 20 years since the ONLY person you "think" might have on the Right (but you're not entirely 100% certain) and connected with "terrorism", has passed.  And all the others that has happened in schools, in theaters, on campuses, in Malls, or on Army Bases,  by Leftists, don't even rate a mention from you.
 
Hypocrite much?



Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 19, 15, 05:07:48:PM
Who was that "lil" jab aimed at, Jim?

Surely since you are one of the "greatest" of the republican hypocrites on these boards, you don't fear some sort of backlash? Bold rascal you are then...., but not very wise....

Other republicans have tried that trick and failed at the attempt, jim..

Dismissed..,

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Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jim on 04 19, 15, 05:23:18:PM
 
If you have something concrete that proves me wrong, then by all mean post it.  Lets look at it together...


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jw2 on 04 19, 15, 05:44:19:PM
wrong, again, william.
 
the American people elected and re-elected Barack Obama.  By significant majorities in both the popular vote and the electoral vote.
 
 
right wing terrorism continues in America.
 
 
hope the NSA has a tag on you.
 
 
 


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 19, 15, 05:47:46:PM
By ALL means, Jim, if you EVER print ANYTHING of fact on these boards, let's DO examine them..

I am sure your postings are hilarious enough to be reexamined over and over for it's hilarious and not so subtle stretching of truth as it has from the beginning..

LOLOLOL!

Dismissed...,

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Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jim on 04 19, 15, 05:50:35:PM
 
I'll take that as a big NO, you have nothing concrete to add...  Thank you for your timely response....    (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)
 


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 19, 15, 05:52:06:PM
I take it you have no more bullshit to fling , at the moment, jim..

Thank YOU for your timely and most hilarious response...

Dismissed..,

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Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jw2 on 04 19, 15, 06:40:25:PM
thank you, jim, for demonstrating that you've got nothing, except praise and support for the terrorism that McVeigh brought to this nation.
 
the real question is... McVeigh expected the rest of youse well-armed anarchasits right wingers to take his bombing as the start of the right wing revolution "to take the country back"...
 
and youse people puzzied out.
 
 
why?
 
 


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jim on 04 19, 15, 07:26:22:PM
 
Show where I said (or implied) that I supported McVeigh or you risk finding yourself in the same position as Hoosier. 
And there is no right wing revolution, for if there were you certainly wouldn't be on this board talking about it.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: ttopcat on 04 19, 15, 08:12:29:PM
What this McVeigh did was terrible but it don't come close to what the Muslims did on 9/11 in cost of lives nor in the trillion it cost to recover from the attack.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jw2 on 04 19, 15, 08:31:14:PM
be my guest, jim.
 
denounce Timmothy McVeigh.
 
denounce right wing terrorism against America.
 
 
your political/social positions are identical to McVeigh's.
 
these are positions you publicly take day in and day out.
 
that's a fact.
 
if you can't find it easy to denounce McVeigh publicly in front of the rest of the anarcharistic right wingers here, then that suggests you sympathise with McVeigh and the killing of innocent people (children) for a political statement, or you're unwilling to alienate the extreemist right wingers who populate this board.
 
that you cowardly can't follow through with the extreme action of McVeigh, suggests you don't really belive the chit you post.
 
 
right wingers love to use association to belittle or challenge those you disagree with.
 
turn-a-bout is fair play then.
 
God is asking you to face the truth every day, and you choose to delude yourself and lie to others.
 
 
your position is so pathetically weak, you're going to/already banned hoosier...and threatening me.
 
 
all you have to do is say McVeigh was wrong.
 
 
you can do it.
 
 
 
 
 


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: takncarabizniz on 04 19, 15, 09:10:28:PM
Thank you to former President Clinton for taking the time to be part of the ceremony. This nation's soul continues to be wearied by the attacks we have suffered. But we can never forget that we gain strength through commonality and camaraderie; and these despicable acts, whether domestically or internationally wrought, will not go unanswered or without justice. May our nation regain strength through decent leadership, strengthening and enforcement of our laws and by the citizens remaining vigilant.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: D2D on 04 19, 15, 09:26:38:PM
Somehow liberals believe McVeigh's horriffic acts justify more than a century of left wing terrorism!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: KensanIV on 04 19, 15, 09:29:07:PM
Most terrorists are kooks... Does it really matter if he were a left wing or a right wing kook?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 19, 15, 11:41:37:PM
I would much rather see jw, wit or bitchcrowfeather banned than ho. they don't have any principles to stand on, all they are doing is stirring the pot for reaction. I have been on boards with ho for many, many, years and no matter how wrong he is, he has always promoted the same twisted ideas!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jim on 04 19, 15, 11:52:27:PM
denounce Timmothy McVeigh.
denounce right wing terrorism against America.



And yet again you Deflect. I requested that you to prove your accusation against me and instead you deflect. Now go back through my fucking posts and point out where I ever indicated I supported Timothy McVeigh OR his Tactics. Whether they were Right wing, Left wing or Liberal wing.


And for future reference (after you locate what you claim) I denounce Timothy McVeigh and his terrorists tactics.
But wait, theres more!  I will go out on what I think is a very safe limb and announce to you that I believe everyone on this board denounces McVeigh as well!
That should upset the crap out of you and ruin your sleep for a full week.  Moron.
 
Now, go find your proof of my support you friggin deer tic.




Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: D2D on 04 20, 15, 12:34:33:AM
Jw2, denounce the Weather Underground,  Bill Ayers, etc.!

Denounce the SLA, FARC, May 19, Shining Path, Red Army faction, Badder Meinhoff, Action Direct, etc.!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: daroadie on 04 20, 15, 05:05:58:AM
What Difference does it make Now Shit Stain?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: wmdn_bs on 04 20, 15, 07:26:18:AM
Jw2, denounce the Weather Underground,  Bill Ayers, etc.!

Denounce the SLA, FARC, May 19, Shining Path, Red Army faction, Badder Meinhoff, Action Direct, etc.!

Golly D2D, how do you find time to be a member of all those clubs? I can't speak for JW2, but I denounce those organizations. Now that I suspect you are a member, it gives me yet another reason to denounce them.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 04 20, 15, 07:43:45:AM
bm jim cannot name one mass shooter that was a liberal, much less any of those clowns he has talked about before.  the connecticut killer's mom was a survivalist, not a liberal.  and i doubt if he had any political leanings, he was a stone cold insane person.  how could even a liar like jimbob claim he was a liberal?  or the theater shooter at the batman theater?  or the loon that shot one of the few democratic legislators at a political rally?  how can even somebody as stupid as jimbob believe a liberal would shoot one of the only democrats in a state?  if you can believe liberals believe in getting guns to go shoot people they disagree with in the first place.  or the columbine students that shot up their school!!  why would somebody as loony tune and gullible as bm jim believe they were "liberal?"  how is it liberal to use a bunch of guns to kill people?  even that muslim psychiatrist at the army base- a liberal?  the muslims who are terrorists are RIGHT WING FUNDAMENTALISTS, NOT LIBERALS!!  surely even somebody as politically clueless as bm jim must know that.  you know, like jesus was a liberal because he was AGAINST violence, against killing anybody, much less strangers in a mall or school or army base.  i would say that out of all those shooters probably the only really politically motivated killer was the muslim, and that was a decidedly conservative muslim belief that condones mass killing of bystanders to make a political point. 


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 20, 15, 01:59:36:PM
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a half assed "ASS"umption

Very good, LRW.  You're learning! (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)

You are correct.  This guilt by association crap nancy teabagger is trying to pull is just that - crap.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jim on 04 20, 15, 02:21:34:PM
jim cannot name one mass shooter that was a liberal,
 
I never said "Liberal."  I said they were Leftists. You know; Left of center. As in far FAR Left of center.
And YES, that would include Holmes, Loefner, Lanza, Columbine, Virginia Tech, Oregon Mall... etc..


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 04 20, 15, 02:27:19:PM
the connecticut killer's mom was a survivalist, not a liberal. 


Who cares what a murderers parent's are?    Adam was the insane liberal firearm thief and killer.   


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: KensanIV on 04 20, 15, 02:29:55:PM
Of all the mass killers in our country, I am certain of one thing.

NOT ONE OF THEM WAS A MEMBER OF THE N.R.A.  National Rifle Association. 

And basically since only CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS ARE MEMBERS of the NRA.

The solution is simple.  Don't sell Guns to Liberals.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: cathlab3 on 04 20, 15, 04:37:04:PM
Jim, I wanted to thank you personally for showing how badly these left wing idiots fail when pushed.  They have nothing but hate for any opinions but their own. I truly believe they are plants that may be being paid to be here.  Anyone of character would never support the kind of garbage they spout.
they follow the Alinski /Obama model to the T  . As Obama once said, get in your neighbors face, shout them down, push them around. Thanks for being here and keeping up the fight for freedom.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 04 20, 15, 04:42:26:PM
No sane rational person would support the OKC terrorist bomber.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: darkflower on 04 20, 15, 04:49:13:PM
No sane rational person would support any of the shooters either.

Does not change the fact he was totally right wing.

And sane rational people support a whole lot worse than okc. The war on terrorism is a million times worse. Yet people support it.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 04 20, 15, 04:53:53:PM
McVeigh's beef was the U.S. government murdering innocents.   Much like the Islamists.   Left or right wing did not matter....


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: upyrwazoo on 04 20, 15, 04:56:07:PM
NOR WOULD ANY SANE PERSON DEFEND THE ACTS BY OUR GOVERNMENT AT RUBY RIDGE! THE FBI BEGGED THAT MAN TO SAW OFF THE BARREL OF A SHOTGUN HE REFUSED MANY TIMES UNTIL HE AGREED JUST TO GET RID OF THEM. THE "CRIME" WAS TOTALLY CREATED BY THE FEDS, THEN THEY ASSASSINATED HIS SON AND WIFE, AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE BUT THE COURTS DID AND FOUND THE GOVERNMENT AT FAULT! AND AS FAR AS WACO IS CONCERNED THE SHERIFF SAID HE COULD HAVE ARRESTED KORESH ANY TIME HE CAME INTO TOWN AND THE SHERIFF DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE FEDS DIDN'T LET HIM DO THAT! JANET RENO BURNED THOSE KIDS ALIVE!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 04 20, 15, 04:59:27:PM
Both were about liberal gun control on Americans.   The government screwed up royally.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 20, 15, 05:41:31:PM
anchoragedan, you are; as always, full of shit..

And seahooker, Jim isn't gonna do shit to me..

Go screw yourself into an outlet you screwed up lightbulb!

Dismissed..,

Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: cathlab3 on 04 20, 15, 05:43:16:PM
Go screw yourself into an outlet you screwed up lightbulb!

LOL....good one Melinda.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 20, 15, 05:43:43:PM
Quote
he was totally right wing.

So?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 20, 15, 05:45:58:PM
Quote
anchoragedan, you are, as always full of shit..


So it is your contention that since McVeigh was a right winger, that means all right wingers are terrorists?  And you say I am the one who is full of shit???  Shame on you!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 20, 15, 05:47:47:PM
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Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago

How many children were killed 22 years ago by left wing terrorists?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 20, 15, 05:48:55:PM
MY contention is that you area an ignorant, arogant bastard who doesn't know shit from shinola, dan..

Dismissed..,

Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: darkflower on 04 20, 15, 05:49:53:PM
Get a clue already. People on the right are the ones running around saying anyone who is not one of them is a terrorist. This thread is an answer to THEM throwing their own bullshit back in their faces. Shame on YOU for not grasping that, Dan.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 20, 15, 05:51:57:PM
Quote
MY contention is that you area an ignorant, arogant bastard who doesn't know shit from shinola, dan..

Then why did you say that you believe in the doctrine of guilt by association?

Or are you admitting you don't have a clue what I said?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 20, 15, 05:54:10:PM
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People on the right are the ones running around saying anyone who is not one of them is a terrorist.

Liar.

Quote
This thread is an answer to THEM throwing their own bullshit back in their faces.

False premise.  We never condemn an entire group based on the actions of a lunatic.  That's JW2's modus operandi.

Quote
Shame on YOU for not grasping that, Dan.

Shame on YOU for falsely accusing us of that.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: upyrwazoo on 04 20, 15, 05:59:48:PM
So it is your contention that since McVeigh was a right winger, that means all right wingers are terrorists?

THEN WHY DOES THE LEFT FEEL SO DIFFERENTLY ABOUT MUSLIMS?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jim on 04 20, 15, 06:01:10:PM
Does not change the fact he was totally right wing.

A proper education would inform you that there is a very huge difference and very clear separation between Right Wing and Anarchist.
Just as there is a very huge difference between Left Wing and Socialism, except Socialists have clearly taken over the Left.
 


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 20, 15, 06:05:01:PM
You see lib after lib find an article about someone misbehaving who happens to be Republican/ right wing, and they gleefully report it in an attempt to blanketly condemn the entire group.  They often use the guilt by association doctrine.

It illustrates their lack of substance.  They can't win a battle of ideas, so they use the Alinsky tactic to attack the messengers.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jw2 on 04 20, 15, 06:12:01:PM
no difference between the right wing sentiments aesops posters (including you, jim) and the anarchists.

anarchists are more likely to actually take action.


Our form of governance depends on a willingness to compromise.  I don't see that sentiment expressed by aesops righties.  It's easier to demean others.  It seem obvious that certain righties have some personal sexual perversion they wish to exhibit with their name calling.


So it is your contention that since McVeigh was a right winger, that means all right wingers are terrorists?


That's basically the same thing righties here do all the time, associate with liberals and progressives with extreemists.

With the table turned, you take offense.


I am a real conservative.  A supporter of the US Constitution. You and the usual pretenders simply hijack the idea for political purposes.
 
 
Poor daniel, still upset that his political contributions to secessionsit Alaksan politicians is public record, and still making excuses for political corruption.
 


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jim on 04 20, 15, 06:15:22:PM
I am a real conservative.  A supporter of the US Constitution. You and the usual pretenders simply hijack the idea for political purposes.

Yeah, thats the ticket. It was you all along that was the "Real" hero. If only we had known.....  If only we had known....



Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 20, 15, 06:18:40:PM
Quote
That's basically the same thing righties here do all the time, associate with liberals and progressives with extremists.

Nope.  That's something YOU do all the time.  Guilt by association.  YOU are the one who searches for negative articles about Republicans so you can condemn the entire group by association.

Quote
With the table turned

We don't do that.  We argue the merits.

Quote
I am a real conservative.

So am I.

Quote
A supporter of the US Constitution.

Me too.

Quote
You hijack the idea for political purposes.

What's wrong with embracing (what you call hijacking) the Constitution?  Why is that a bad thing?

Quote
Poor dan, still upset that his political contributions to secessionsit Alaskan politicians is public record

Poor johniel, still upset that his child sexual molestation conviction is a matter of public record...

I'll make a deal with you.  You don't lie about me, I won't lie about you.  Deal?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 20, 15, 06:21:42:PM
I've donated to exactly 3 Alaskan political candidates:

Dan Sullivan - $500
Joe Miller - $500
Amy Demboski - $300

Which one is Secessionist, johniel?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jw2 on 04 20, 15, 06:22:37:PM
Hero?  eh?


My conservativism is genuine. 


What passes as conservative with the usually suspect is a cross between anarchy and libertarianism.


The US Constitution provides a wealth of tools that are designe to provide for the general welfare. 

The above mentioned phonies, wish to throw away and ban those tools (well, except guns), because they (you, too?) don't give a ratz azz as long as youse got yours.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 20, 15, 06:31:38:PM
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My conservativism is genuine.

What conservative values do you hold?

Fiscal responsibility?
Limited government?

Quote
The US Constitution provides a wealth of tools that are designed to provide for the general welfare.

What tools are authorized by the constitution to do that?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 04 20, 15, 07:03:27:PM
you boys make so many stupid mistakes BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW THE DEFINITION OF SO MANY WORDS!!  all governments are socialist in nature.  some are way more socialist, where almost all the major, most expensive basic necessities of living are provided and guaranteed by the public sector.  others, most notably this country, rely on socialist programs for a relatively few necessities- public roads, municipal utilities, parks, libraries, k-12 public schools, medicare, medicaid, social security, the FBI, CIA, NASA, FCC, FDA, and many more.

Below, you will see some of the most socialistic nations in the world today:

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium
Despite popular myths, there is very little connection between economic performance and welfare expenditure. Many of the countries on this list are proof of that, such as Denmark and Finland. Even though both countries are more socialistic than America, the workforce remains stronger.

http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-most-socialist-countries-in-the-world/[/COLOR]]http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-most-socialist-countries-in-the-world/ (http://[COLOR=#000000)

and then there is this from forbes:

10. US
9. Netherlands (also 1 of most socialist)
8. Switzerland
7. Canada (also 1 of most socialist)
6. Sweden (also 1 of most socialist)
5. New Zealand (also 1 of most socialist)
4. Australia
3. Finland (also 1 of most socialist)
2. Denmark (also 1 of most socialist)
1. Norway (also 1 of most socialist)


http://www.forbes.com/2011/01/19/norway-denmark-finland-business-washington-world-happiest-countries_slide_11.html


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: D2D on 04 20, 15, 07:54:45:PM
Hoosier seems to be living under the delusion that government is socialism and only no government is not socialism!

Bizarre!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: upyrwazoo on 04 20, 15, 08:55:44:PM
BUT STILL HE PROVED THAT HE CAN POST WITHOUT SWEARING, AMAZING!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: D2D on 04 20, 15, 09:04:54:PM
That is amazing!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jim on 04 20, 15, 09:09:15:PM
all governments are socialist in nature. 
 
Thats like saying everyone drinks water, therefore we're all fish.




Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jw2 on 04 20, 15, 10:07:04:PM
Fiscal Conservative: 
 
yep, we should stop funding the enormously corrupt and costly and morally bankrupt world empire building military industrial complex.
 
fiscal conservativism does not exclude raising revenues to run the government.  Taxes have been part of the government since day one.
 
The Constitution provides for the regulation of commerce.  The government used to derive a large percentage of revenue from import tarrifs - there's a bi-partisian effort to impliment unfair trade that ships American jobs (and the taxes they generate) overseas and decreases import fees.  Both sources of revenue we have less of.
 
 
Less government intrusion into our lives means, the woman makes the decision regarding abortion.  You can't use the nanny state government to force another citizen to do what you want, against her wishes.
 
You really don't believe in freedom and liberty. 
 
 
You want non-existant taxes and no government...move to Somalia.
 
 
 


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: D2D on 04 20, 15, 10:09:02:PM
What about the dependency industrial complex, Jw2!

We should defund that first!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sine-qua-non on 04 20, 15, 10:15:37:PM
So from whom did Timmy get his C-4 from?

Witnesses reported seeing Tim a week before with little butter boxes!

The tv news said there were more bombs in the building
Apparently, there were Two more bombs that didn't go off!

Timmy was the patsy in the Govt. Psy- ops by BJClinton to take the
focus off of all of his and bubbettes scandles!

OK City, and the torcher demolition and murder of the 84 Christian men women and children in their own home
In Waco will always haunt BJClinton and Bubbette the evil duo!(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/evil.gif)


http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=254


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: wmdn_bs on 04 21, 15, 06:12:44:AM
    OMG, not another conspiracy!!!  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/iamwithstupid.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/laughing4.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: DaBoz on 04 21, 15, 06:14:29:AM
In Waco will always haunt BJClinton and Bubbette the evil duo!(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/evil.gif)


http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=254 (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=254)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: wmdn_bs on 04 21, 15, 06:17:31:AM
    Another one... (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/iamwithstupid.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/laughing4.gif) How many more are there? (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/huh.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 04 21, 15, 06:46:46:AM
all governments are socialist in nature.  

Thats like saying everyone drinks water, therefore we're all fish.




no, it is nothing like that!!  another clueless remark from monitor boy.  you boys make so many stupid mistakes BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW THE DEFINITION OF SO MANY WORDS!!  all governments are socialist in nature.  some are way more socialist, where almost all the major, most expensive basic necessities of living are provided and guaranteed by the public sector.  others, most notably this country, rely on socialist programs for a relatively few necessities- public roads, municipal utilities, parks, libraries, k-12 public schools, medicare, medicaid, social security, the FBI, CIA, NASA, FCC, FDA, and many more.

Below, you will see some of the most socialistic nations in the world today:

China
Denmark
Finland
Netherlands
Canada
Sweden
Norway
Ireland
New Zealand
Belgium
Despite popular myths, there is very little connection between economic performance and welfare expenditure. Many of the countries on this list are proof of that, such as Denmark and Finland. Even though both countries are more socialistic than America, the workforce remains stronger.

http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-most-socialist-countries-in-the-world/[/COLOR]]http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-most-socialist-countries-in-the-world/

and then there is this from forbes:

10. US
9. Netherlands (also 1 of most socialist)
8. Switzerland
7. Canada (also 1 of most socialist)
6. Sweden (also 1 of most socialist)
5. New Zealand (also 1 of most socialist)
4. Australia
3. Finland (also 1 of most socialist)
2. Denmark (also 1 of most socialist)
1. Norway (also 1 of most socialist)


http://www.forbes.com/2011/01/19/norway-denmark-finland-business-washington-world-happiest-countries_slide_11.html


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: DaBoz on 04 21, 15, 06:49:52:AM
 McVeighs actions were a revenge attack for Clintons actions

 9/11 was Osama revenge attack for Clinton's actions..

Clintons actions just HAPPENED to coincide with some serious woman problems.


 Do you see the common core here??


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: hoosier_daddy on 04 21, 15, 08:31:27:AM
i see you are a lying asshole.  go fuck yourself, stupid bitch. 


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 21, 15, 12:28:02:PM
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Less government intrusion into our lives means, the woman makes the decision regarding ...

... whether or not to buy health insurance?  The ability to choose what school to send her children?  Whether or not to join a union if she wishes?

Quote
abortion.

How about robbery?  Should the government intrude on her decision to commit robbery?

Quote
You can't use the nanny state government to force another citizen to do what you want, against her wishes.

You mean like forcing her to buy health insurance against her will?  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)

Quote
You really don't believe in freedom and liberty.

You mean YOU don't.  You are the one who supports Obamacare.  Not me.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sine-qua-non on 04 21, 15, 09:21:12:PM
Clintons actions just HAPPENED to coincide with some serious woman problems.




BJ Bubba had lots of problems with an inept foreign policy

his womanizing was the least of them but what took him down

When he lied bald faced to the American people !


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: DaBoz on 04 22, 15, 05:52:42:AM
His wag the Dog routine was the joke of the year/


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: wmdn_bs on 04 22, 15, 06:42:39:AM
Clintons actions just HAPPENED to coincide with some serious woman problems.




BJ Bubba had lots of problems with an inept foreign policy

his womanizing was the least of them but what took him down

When he lied bald faced to the American people !

And exactly how was he brought down? He was and continues to be one of the most popular presidents in history. He is far more successful than any of us on this forum and the vast majority of the country. He presided over a very successful administration, balancing the budget and leaving a healthy surplus for his successor, who squandered it. You are a fool. I am happy I can laugh at your idiocy every time you post, knowing that there are darned few people who buy into your seemingl endless strings of lies and conspiracy theories.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: August West on 04 22, 15, 06:52:42:AM
 
Clintons actions just HAPPENED to coincide with some serious woman problems.




BJ Bubba had lots of problems with an inept foreign policy

his womanizing was the least of them but what took him down

When he lied bald faced to the American people !
Clinton had an inept foreign policy because he didn`t start any useless wars?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sine-qua-non on 04 22, 15, 07:00:03:PM
Bubbas gift to America was to sign legislation

to send Americas jobs abroad !  Remember Ross Perots

prediction?  The giant sucking sound of our jobs going south?

Well liked?  Yeah like Al Capone!  He was well liked by the left until he bskd face

lied on TV to the nation.  Americans are forgiving but don't like to be taken for chumps

so when he didn't ask our forgiveness and started stealing from the Haiti rescue charity

most moral folks found him to be less than desirable.

No? Rather play ignorant and dumb about the impeached and disgraced

cocaine addict sold out American jobs causing our current 7 year depression?

I laugh at your denial leftist tools and "useful idiots " !


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: D2D on 04 22, 15, 08:38:26:PM
 
  Clinton had an inept foreign policy because he didn`t start any useless wars?
Clinton's inept foreign policy caused 9/11 leading directly to the war on terror!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jw2 on 04 23, 15, 08:06:12:AM
Billy Bob Clinton was out of office for 8 months when 9/11 occured.
 
George W. Bush is the one who ignored an August 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing that warned that OBL was determined to strike the USA.
 
A fact detailed in the official 9/11 Report.
 
know the facts.
 
work with the truth.
 
cast away your delusions.
 
or always stay a loser.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: DaBoz on 04 23, 15, 08:11:22:AM
Billy Bob Clinton was out of office for 8 months when 9/11 occurred.

The stupidest president in History according to YOU, had not found the bathrooms in the WH yet after the hassle Gore gave him with court cases.

Bill Clinton Fired Missiles at Osama bin laden in Afghanistan and missed, and Bin laden retaliated with 9/11.

How could anyone have planned an act against Bush and Attacked Him,?? And for what reason? Clinton had all the info Bush got, Same CIA directors,,,why didn't Clinton act???


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jw2 on 04 23, 15, 02:54:28:PM
my oh my, aren't you full of excuses.
 
so much for personal responsibility as a core conservative trait.  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 23, 15, 02:56:22:PM
Quote
George W. Bush is the one who ignored an August 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing that warned that OBL was determined to strike the USA.

What action should he have taken given that ambiguous threat?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sine-qua-non on 04 23, 15, 03:50:41:PM
Bubba was offered up OBL 14 times and refused

each time!

WTF,  is wrong with you leftist  commies?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 23, 15, 03:54:20:PM
fun to see ho's name keep popping to the top!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jw2 on 04 23, 15, 03:57:26:PM
keep making excuses.
 
the facts don't change.
 
 


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 23, 15, 04:11:20:PM
Quote
keep making excuses.

What kind of answer is that supposed to be?  I asked you a question.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 23, 15, 08:27:34:PM
JW doesn't answer questions, but then, what numb minded robot does?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Byteryder on 04 23, 15, 08:36:43:PM
haven't we left this topic to die of terminal WHO GIVES A SHIT yet??


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 24, 15, 12:53:03:AM
I think I do


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 24, 15, 06:16:43:PM
since ho has left, the total liberal idiots have taken over as lead liberal posters!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: D2D on 04 24, 15, 09:01:45:PM
Have you noticed that McVeigh was a socialist?

He fought for the Socialist cause!

He murdered in the name of Socialism!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 04 24, 15, 09:14:58:PM
People are responding to this post merely to see HOR's-BOY's name kept alive.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 24, 15, 10:16:31:PM
I am, just for the hell of it!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: D2D on 04 24, 15, 10:19:47:PM
I think we are going to miss Hoosier!

He was profane and childish always the typical liberal!

He did more harm to the liberal cause than anyone else on this board!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 24, 15, 10:25:18:PM
D2D, I often thought he was a conservative in disguise.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 25, 15, 12:21:13:AM
please jim, bring ho back and ban darkweed. her ignorance or naiveté makes me want to throw up!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Byteryder on 04 25, 15, 01:21:07:AM
I could consider that.  Ho's bite is bad enough, but Darks bite only leaves two marks.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: D2D on 04 25, 15, 01:26:30:AM
Darkflower simply parrots Maoist, Soviet, ISIS, Al Qaeda and PLO propaganda!

He is easily refuted and dismissed!

Hoosier merely adds profanity and childish name calling to the spew!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: daroadie on 04 25, 15, 04:22:54:AM
Too bad You were not one of the Victims Shit Stain.  You were there Of course!  Witnessed it All First Hand.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: D2D on 04 25, 15, 04:48:58:AM
You are only a victim if you allow yourself to be one!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: takncarabizniz on 04 25, 15, 10:43:21:AM
Oops, I would have thought by now that this would have been moved to hot topics...


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 25, 15, 02:30:38:PM
George W. Bush is the one who ignored an August 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing that warned that OBL was determined to strike the USA.

A fact detailed in the official 9/11 Report.

Can you show us in the 9/11 report, jw, where it says Bush ignored warning that OBL was determined to strike the USA? Can you JW?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jim on 04 25, 15, 03:58:35:PM
McVeigh was born a christian, raised a christian, lived as a christian, and died a christian.

No he was not.  He may have started out that way, but he changed.
"in 2002, he (McVeigh) stated that he did not believe in a hell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell) and that science is his religion.[95] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#cite_note-95)[96] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#cite_note-96) In June 2001, a day before the execution, McVeigh wrote a letter to the Buffalo News identifying himself as agnostic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism).[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#cite_note-Borger-3) Before his execution, McVeigh took the Catholic sacrament of the Anointing of the Sick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anointing_of_the_Sick_(Catholic_Church))"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh)

He only hedged his bets on the way out the door.  Just as all of you will when you ask God for forgiveness in your last breath.



The nazis were christians too.

Again:
No, The Nazis were NOT Christians.  The soldiers who were fooled into following Hitler may have been one form of Christian or other, but the SS and pure Nazi's were Secularists. Hitler was agnostic at best. Hitler used the catholic church and its priests to further his grip on the german people.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 04 25, 15, 05:47:21:PM
Jim.....  Thanks for including FACTS with this discussion. (Not that the Christian-haters will believe them!)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: takncarabizniz on 04 25, 15, 06:15:10:PM
Just so you know...

No one is BORN a Christian...

No one is considered a Christian until they have accepted Christ as their personal savior...even a baby is not considered Christian until they have been baptized...

Matthew 28:19-20King James Version (KJV)19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: ttopcat on 04 25, 15, 06:39:51:PM
I watched Brown beat a old man up while his lowlife mother looked on, he was no damn good, and she deserves nothing for raising him up to be a bad boy!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 25, 15, 07:43:38:PM
George W. Bush is the one who ignored an August 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing that warned that OBL was determined to strike the USA.

A fact detailed in the official 9/11 Report.

Can you show us in the 9/11 report, jw, where it says Bush ignored warning that OBL was determined to strike the USA? Can you JW?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: D2D on 04 25, 15, 08:44:04:PM
Every presidential briefing from the day al Qaeda came into being said that organization was determined to attack the USA!

In fact every presidential briefing from the before the day modern Israel came into existence there have been organizations known to be determined to attack the USA!

At no time did anyone have any actionable intelligence!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sine-qua-non on 04 26, 15, 01:04:56:AM
Al- CIAduh was started by the CIA and funded and supported by the west
Recently, due to bad PR they changed the name to ISis to ratchet up the fear level
and get ready for full martial law here in America!

Btw, ISis leader is a Mossad trained Jew!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuRot1mvC9k


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: wmdn_bs on 04 26, 15, 06:54:49:AM
Thanks for the laughs at your gullibility Sine. (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/laugh.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sine-qua-non on 04 26, 15, 11:51:53:AM
Sorry that you find facts, not my facts, all documented, that you didn't know funny ...BS
That's how the ignorant role here apparently!

Btw, who do you say is funding and supporting them, and show your source, k?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: wmdn_bs on 04 26, 15, 12:22:46:PM
Your "facts" are nobody's facts. "Evidence" from kooks is... well, just kooky.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sine-qua-non on 04 26, 15, 01:11:30:PM
You don't have a clue, do you?

Just as I thought, you revel in your ignorance
like its a badge of honor, like a typical leftist moron!(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: wmdn_bs on 04 26, 15, 01:56:39:PM
It is not I that doesn't have a clue my friend. 


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sine-qua-non on 04 26, 15, 02:29:29:PM
Yeah, you outed yourself clueless
When you couldn't answer the question, loser !


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 26, 15, 03:12:33:PM
talk about not answering questions:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
George W. Bush is the one who ignored an August 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing that warned that OBL was determined to strike the USA.

A fact detailed in the official 9/11 Report.

Can you show us in the 9/11 report, jw, where it says Bush ignored warning that OBL was determined to strike the USA? Can you JW?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 04 26, 15, 04:41:31:PM
Can you show us in the 9/11 report, jw, where it says Bush ignored warning that OBL was determined to strike the USA? Can you JW?

Expect crickets from JW...  He cannot...


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: DaBoz on 04 26, 15, 04:45:05:PM
I expect cricket from jw2 after everyone of his hit and run posts. just sayin.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: cathlab3 on 04 26, 15, 08:13:16:PM
Your "facts" are nobody's facts. "Evidence" from kooks is... well, just kooky.




Funny BS   the only facts are the ones you post.......right ? 



Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: wmdn_bs on 04 26, 15, 08:58:00:PM
Not necessarily CathLab. Plenty of folks on this foru?, both right and left post facts. Learning to discover which posts are facts, which ones are outright lies, and which ones are delusional anti-government conspiracy theories is the trick. There are times I disagree with just about everyone. There are also times when I agree with nearly everyone on this forum. Nobody is right all the time. I think we all vote our conscience, and that's as it should be. This forum, I believe, was intended to be a vehicle to share ideas. Unfortunately it's turned into a rant fest. I don't expect to change anyone's mind, and there's no way my mind will be changed. We've both been here long enough to know that I will treat people with respect while disagreeing with them as long as I get treated likewise. I will give as I get.


BTW, don't forget to vote May 5. I know the yes vote vastly outspent the no vote folks. We will see if it was enough to buy the ballot measure.

BTW, I don't know where you stand on the proposal, but I am firmly on the NO side. So much for this Liberal always being on the side of higher taxes eh?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 26, 15, 08:59:09:PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
talk about not answering questions:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
George W. Bush is the one who ignored an August 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing that warned that OBL was determined to strike the USA.

A fact detailed in the official 9/11 Report.

Can you show us in the 9/11 report, jw, where it says Bush ignored warning that OBL was determined to strike the USA? Can you JW?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 26, 15, 09:00:11:PM
Sorry, I should have led with.......THANK YOU JIM!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 26, 15, 09:49:30:PM
still waiting JW!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 27, 15, 11:54:14:AM
Still waiting for the troll, jw, to respond!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 04 27, 15, 01:27:24:PM
You will wait until the next coming mini-ice age before JW responds to your question.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: DaBoz on 04 27, 15, 02:14:09:PM
JW2 is up to his old tricks of posting lies and running away.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 27, 15, 06:02:58:PM
jw, man up to your lies!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Jw2 on 04 27, 15, 06:30:24:PM
The President's Daily Brief - National Security Archive (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCwQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnsarchive.gwu.edu%2FNSAEBB%2FNSAEBB116%2F&ei=1bc-VfeAG4ydyATyg4GQCQ&usg=AFQjCNF8z56JRfkcMKnI1aMYNkMfwZ1Y6Q&sig2=q4wFQzdrfiapb42LxMYbqQ&bvm=bv.91665533,d.aWw)
 
Documents: The 6 August 2001 PDB and more (http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB116/#docs)
The page-and-a-half section of the President's Daily Brief from 6 August 2001, headlined "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US," (http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB116/pdb8-6-2001.pdf)
damn, youse people are serriously in denial of facts.
your mental illness is astonishing


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 27, 15, 06:44:11:PM
Bush ignored it how. does it say in there Bush ignored it? as usual you lefties make shit up and because your friends believe your shit, you think conservatives will too. Ain't gonna happen, we are too smart for dummies like you!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 27, 15, 06:47:35:PM
Obviously not, seahooker...

You stable of likely candidates for the office of POTUS leaves much to be desired..

Although, that isn't much to be surprised about either..

Blind leading the Blind.....

*snick!*

dismissed..,

Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif) (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif) (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: Dan on 04 27, 15, 06:50:35:PM
Johniel,

Thank you for proving that the report does not say Bush ignored the ambiguous PDB.  Now if you would only take time to read it yourself...


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 27, 15, 06:55:44:PM
yea, ldr, you lefties have certainly picked a good, baggage free, young, charismatic candidate who like to ride around in a mystery wagon with a friend named huma weiner!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 27, 15, 07:00:24:PM
LOLOLOL!!

Nice try, seaidiot, but you KNOW I was talking about you pathetic repubulican losers..

Keeeep whining, dude..

We will just keep laughing at your "attempts" at bullshit deflection..

Dismissed.,


Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif) (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif) (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: seahooker on 04 27, 15, 07:06:50:PM
jim, ladycrowwing shows exactly why we need ho back, you can at least debate with him. these children can't do anything except antagonize and bait, and they do that very badly!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 04 27, 15, 08:25:39:PM
Why did this POS Post come back? ? ? ? ?

Maybe we should all keep posting some BS crap to it and keep it at the top of the list until everyone is finally sick of it totally!!!!!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 27, 15, 08:50:04:PM
seahooker, you don't have the brains to debate anyone, so don't flatter yourself in your dishonest arrogance.

Jim won't do shit to me, seahooker, so keep whining... pitifully.... lololol!

wwv, just WHOM are you referring to?

Your own ignorance is more clearly seen here as are the rest of your desperate, dumb, whining, republican pals..

Keep whining, you two..

LOLOLOLOL!

Dismissed..,

Again........,

STILL Laughing...,


Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif) (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif) (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 04 27, 15, 10:13:13:PM
Lazy-Raving-Wench.....

Proper English Grammar says your sentence should say:

WWV, just to WHOM are you referring?

-or-

WWV, just WHO are you referring to?

"Whom" is the objective form of "who".

Think of "him" versus "he" or "her" versus "she".

Get it?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 27, 15, 10:48:37:PM
ROTFLMAO!!!

THAT is ALL you've got, wwv?

Wow! The "Limp Wristed" and "Limp Brained" republican clown show buries themselves again..

MUHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Dismissed...,

ONCE again...,

Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 04 27, 15, 11:15:57:PM
It's never too late to learn the language used in America.

It would help you to not look so foolish when you post your absurdities.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 28, 15, 09:24:31:AM
This from an arrogant bastard who is part of the party of republican traitors to his OWN country..

LAUGHABLE, wwv...

Keep whining, boy...

ROTFLMAO!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ROTFLMBO!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

dismissed...,

ONCE AGAIN...,

Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sine-qua-non on 04 28, 15, 01:14:40:PM
Posters who laugh in every post here at their betters
Who point out their stupidity are apparently
mentally ill and in need of professional help but not the kind
of DARPA mental mind control as was the case with the Batman killer!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 04 28, 15, 08:16:21:PM
sine, your out and out pea green jealousy is touching..

You are too stupid to post ANYTHING but your bullshit, republican, traitor drivel...

Really, bitch... get a life..

Disimssed..,

Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sine-qua-non on 04 29, 15, 01:20:38:PM
LRW, your delusions you post here have stopped being amusing

as when one first encounters an idiot mentally ill person, and now

it appears that you really like degrading yourself here for some warped

mentally ill reasons that only professional help can accertain.

Seek help soon, ya freakazoid leftist loon! (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/smileys/YahooIM/43.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/richedit/smileys/YahooIM/78.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: WWV10MHZ on 04 30, 15, 10:47:57:PM
(http://www.ecis.com/~sonny/MILK.BMP)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: D2D on 05 01, 15, 08:25:54:AM
McVeigh was a scumbag who had nothing but contempt for the USA and the US constitution just like democrats!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: LadyRavensWing on 05 01, 15, 11:06:38:AM
Sine,

You hilariously hypocritical, ridiculous, STUPID posts here have become VERY amusing..

Fuck off and die, bitch...

dismissed..,

Ldy R.*  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/sarcasmics/107w9oy.gif)


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: wmdn_bs on 05 01, 15, 11:59:45:AM
McVeigh leaned so far right he was in constant danger of falling over.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: D2D on 05 01, 15, 12:03:54:PM
He was a national socialist!

He didn't believe in the Constitution!

He believed in socialism!


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sine-qua-non on 05 01, 15, 12:32:54:PM
Timothy McVeigh -  The patriot. He was prepared to shed blood to defend liberty.
What separates American terrorist Timothy McVeigh from thousands of other ...
www.salon.com/ 2001/ 04/ 07/ mcveigh/


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: wmdn_bs on 05 01, 15, 12:43:35:PM
I guess so... if your definition of patriot equals the Webster's definition of seditionist, or anarchist.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sine-qua-non on 05 01, 15, 12:51:59:PM
Yep, just like the founding fathers all were as well(http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)

To bad their are so few Patriots like them today!
Poor Tim had good intentions but was played for a patsy by the BJClinton
Crime cabal but to his credit the other two C-4 bombs didn't go off!
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Now, where do you suppose a civilian gets hundreds of pounds of C-4 to plant in a building?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: willam on 07 29, 15, 10:30:55:AM
This was "moved" for what reason and purpose - so that a headline could be posted today on Current Events re: right wing terrorism this morning?

What is NEW about what Timothy McVeigh chose to do? 20 years later what he and Terry McNichols acted all alone and did together - sticks to them. No one else and no other group or political party.

Timothy McVeigh - my hope is he is roasting in hell in true unending tortured a state for what he chose to do to those innocent children and women and men inside of the Murrah Federal Building, as well as to hundreds of Oklahomans who continue to suffer still today from the trauma and injuries he chose to cruelly inflict on all of them.

Because of right wing anything?

Timothy McVeigh wasn't "right wing" - he was BOTTOM DWELLING MEAN AND CRUEL and indefensibly terrorizing  - completely absent any "wings".


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 07 29, 15, 10:36:33:AM
It was a very big bomb with no firearms involved.   They did rush the execution through quickly unlike many Islamic terrorists.   Wonder why?   Not that I disagree with his capital punishment as some on the left might?


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: willam on 07 29, 15, 11:03:17:AM
Sweet - what is to disagree with or about in regard to simpleton monster Timothy McVeigh and the mass human being destructing crimes he chose to engage in?

Why try to lump Timothy McVeigh in with anyone else.

McVeigh wasn't executed because he belonged to any right wing group. He alone did what he did - with help ALONE from mass murdering monster Terry McNichols. Not Al Qaeda or The Taliban. Or ISIS. Or the Republican party.

It was right and JUST to fry McVeigh. Fry him to a crisp. Post haste.

Our government was RIGHT to do so - and not waste any time. After all - McVeigh copped to it all. Died proud of what he did - to those babies in the day care center and every other human being too. No remorse. No regret. McVeigh went to hell a happy man by his choice. He was not a right wing anything. Even he admitted as much. He just hated and killed. His hate sent him to HELL. Good riddance to him for that.


Title: Re: Right Wing Terrorist McVeigh Killed 168 People 20 Years Ago
Post by: sine-qua-non on 07 29, 15, 02:54:18:PM
you still havent answered where civilians mcviegh and nichols and others reported

got the C-4 that was found after the first blast?

witness later said they had seen Tim and other young men
the week before with sticks like butter with them.

so, the evidence is verified so that means they didnt get the

real criminals again, just their patsy!