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Title: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: Truman62 on 03 27, 15, 08:42:48:PM
Yes indeed.  Go to Indiana so you can discriminate in peace...

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Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: Mystic on 03 27, 15, 08:49:04:PM
Religion has nothing to do with business, why is it so hard to understand?

Even muslims sell bacon.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 27, 15, 08:55:33:PM
It will be funny when the assholes realize it applies to muslims too and muslims start discriminating.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 27, 15, 08:57:52:PM
It has nothing to do with religion or business. Some christians are just hateful, spiteful people who like punishing anyone who does not fit their narrow view.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: stretch351c on 03 27, 15, 09:02:06:PM
And Radical Leftists like dankweed, mystic and the rest here refuse to accept any beliefs that don't agree with their beliefs. They can't understand the difference between being left alone and being forced to accept the beliefs of others. A business doesn't want to take your money because of your lifestyle? fine. There are many others that will.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: dont-blameme on 03 27, 15, 09:04:21:PM
At least we don't blow them up or behead them, that is reserved for the followers of the Islamic cult!


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: dont-blameme on 03 27, 15, 09:06:56:PM
Even muslims sell bacon! Really pork or goat?


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 27, 15, 09:20:16:PM
Bullshit. Doing business with a customer is not them forcing their beliefs on you. You refusing to do business with them is YOU forcing YOUR beliefs on THEM. And no, there are not always other businesses to go to. If you don't want to do business with people for their so called lifestyles then you should not be allowed to do business with anybody, period.

Liberals are just fine with accepting people of all beliefs. We are not the ones forcing our beliefs on others, telling people they have to obey our crazy religion's rules or be denied service. That is what you self centered zombie worshipping jack asses do.

The bill is not religious freedom, it is religious tyranny.

But like I said, it applies to muslims and sharia too, they'll get to discriminate as well and force their crazy religion on people just like you scummy christians want to do. And I know you mf are going to go apeshit when it happens. People are so fucking stupid.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: dont-blameme on 03 27, 15, 09:24:45:PM
darkweed what ever happened to the right to refuse service?


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: dont-blameme on 03 27, 15, 09:26:20:PM
People are so fucking stupid. And thank you darkweed for providing yourself as an example!


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 27, 15, 09:29:58:PM
There is no such right. Public business serves the public and is not allowed to discriminate. That is common sense and you peeople would be screaming if it was you being discriminated against. You all can not even go a christmas without whining about people saying happy holidays.

But you sure love to discriminate against others and treat them like 2nd class citizens, making a mockery of your so called religion of love.

I don't know why you pretend like muzzies won't be doing it too. They will. You are the ones opening the door to sharia, not us.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 27, 15, 09:31:56:PM
No, you people are the clueless idiots, opening the door to sharia just so you can have fun being hateful assholes to gays.

Literally opening the door to sharia and too fucking stupid to realize it. That is stupidity beyond belief.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: chuck_curtis on 03 27, 15, 09:33:08:PM
Looks like a great opportunity to open a business that caters to everyone.  May the most profitable business win.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: dont-blameme on 03 27, 15, 09:33:57:PM
muslims don't pretend darkweed they take beheading and blowing people up real serious. The only good thing about a suicide bomber is they can't do It twice!


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 27, 15, 09:39:42:PM
You christians blow people up too and in far greater numbers and it was a christian who invented the gulliotine.

Not sure why it matters which of the two crazy ass religions is more violent when the topic is crazy ass haters hiding behind religion to justify discrimination and being too stupid to realize other religions will be able to do it too. Shooting your own nose off to spite your face, that is how idiotic the right wing christians are.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: justincase on 03 27, 15, 09:53:05:PM
(http://i57.tinypic.com/mbofhc.jpg)

I want to know what religion forbids someone to make a sandwich for a gay person-or tailor a suit, etc.? I'd like to see where it is written.


This has nothing, not a single solitary thing, nothing to do with religious freedom.  This is state sanctioned hate mongering. 



Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: chuck_curtis on 03 27, 15, 09:55:21:PM
In this case, it's not the law that is hurting anyone.   


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: dont-blameme on 03 27, 15, 10:07:46:PM
Why do you liberal homosexuals and lesbians make such a big deal out of someone not wanting to serve you or cater to your needs, one you file a lawsuit or start demanding then you are forcing compliance and acceptance.
 
That's like a child molester filing a law suit against a family for refusing to let them babysit their children can we expect that to be next from the left?


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: justincase on 03 27, 15, 10:17:45:PM
The fact that you even made that ridiculous statement is just more proof that you are a backward-thinking, knuckle-dragging mouth-breather.

What if, heaven forbid, a gay person should fall ill there? Can a medic refuse to assist them? Or a police officer refuse to help them if they are attacked?

Is that what we can expect next from the radical right?


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: chuck_curtis on 03 27, 15, 10:24:30:PM
The fact that you even made that ridiculous statement is just more proof that you are a backward-thinking, knuckle-dragging mouth-breather.

Perhaps, but it shouldn't make him a criminal.

What if, heaven forbid, a gay person should fall ill there? Can a medic refuse to assist them? Or a police officer refuse to help them if they are attacked?

What if your neighbor is in need, and you don't help him?  Same question.

Is that what we can expect next from the radical right?

It's nothing less than human liberty, and what you can expect from it.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: dont-blameme on 03 27, 15, 10:30:16:PM
Well Justin once you start forcing acceptance for one group it opens the doors for others why I asked this!   That's like a child molester filing a law suit against a family for refusing to let them babysit their children can we expect that to be next from the left?


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 27, 15, 10:49:30:PM
Chuck, public accomodations and anti-discrimination is long settled case law already established for race and gender. No, you don't have to help your neighbor, and you don't have to be a customer at a business you do not wish for whatever reason. But if you want to run a business then yes, you do have to do business with everyone.

And right wing christians are the biggest most disgusting hypocrites there are. They want to discriminate but yet whine and moan and claim they are discriminated against and oppressed by people saying happy holidays. They are so utterly self absorbed that they claim being denied the ability to discriminate is infringing on THEIR rights, even while they whine about people saying happy holidays. I honestly have to wonder if they might be sociopaths, empathy impaired, unable to wrap their minds around the fact that other people exist.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 27, 15, 10:50:51:PM
"forcing acceptance"

Nobody is forcing you to accept anything. If you can't do business with someone without embracing everything about that person then you should not be doing business, DUH.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: chuck_curtis on 03 27, 15, 11:06:03:PM
Chuck, public accomodations and anti-discrimination is long settled case law already established for race and gender. No, you don't have to help your neighbor, and you don't have to be a customer at a business you do not wish for whatever reason. But if you want to run a business then yes, you do have to do business with everyone.

That is all true, but it is only settled case law because of the oppressive requirement to be licensed to operate a business.  Once it is accepted that a man is not free to operate a business without permission from the state, then there is no limit to what can stop him from operating one.  That is far worse than him choosing who he shall and shall not conduct business with, as a business transaction a mutual agreement, not a dictate.   No consumer has a right to have his wants and needs met by anyone.  It is only by mutual benefit and consent between businessman and consumer that it happens at all.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 27, 15, 11:14:56:PM
You have not lived under the oppression of businesses deciding you are 2nd class.

Oppression is just as bad when it is private as public. There is no right to discriminate. And very little regarding business is truly voluntary. If someone is so hateful they can not do business without discriminating then that person has no right to do buisness at all, with anybody. And preferably should go far away and die. The world is too full of those sorts of people.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: dont-blameme on 03 27, 15, 11:19:06:PM
No consumer has a right to have his wants and needs met by anyone.  It is only by mutual benefit and consent between businessman and consumer that it happens at all.
You are 100% right Chuck, but that will never be accepted by the left.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: chuck_curtis on 03 27, 15, 11:21:11:PM
If there is no right to discriminate, then I suggest you must do business with a known former rapist, crook, thug, schlockhouse, from time-to-time, or what have you, whether you choose to, or not.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: dont-blameme on 03 27, 15, 11:22:19:PM
So now darkweed makes her true feeling know if you don't operate your business to her expectations then you should go die, that sounds like a couple other liberals on the board!


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: stretch351c on 03 27, 15, 11:26:12:PM
Dankweed expresses perfectly the intolerance of the "tolerant" Radical Left.  "You can have any belief you want, as long as I agree with it."


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: chuck_curtis on 03 27, 15, 11:31:11:PM
If you take this anti-discrimination bit to the logical conclusion, the so-called Christians who are forced to do business with overtly blasphemous people would shut their doors completely to everyone.  That is if they really believe in what they say they believe.  I sure would.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: stretch351c on 03 27, 15, 11:48:04:PM
Several have.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 27, 15, 11:53:07:PM
Stretch shows the intolerance of the right. The left does not care what you BELIEVE. You can BELIEVE whatever you want. You can BELIEVE gays are going to hell. ACTIONS are what matter and yes there are legal limits to ACTIONS.

We are not the intolerant hateful assholes who want to turn people into 2nd class over nothing more than BELIEFS. That is your side. We believe in something called EQUALITY. And yes, that means you have no right to do business with anybody if your ACTIONS discriminate. You don't have to BELIEVE everyone is equal but you damn better ACT like it if you want to run a business.

There was a time when discrimination by business was rampant and hell no that is not acceptable in any sort of society that calls itself free. That ain't freedom, that is oppression. And yes it is worth fighting and dying for.

Pretty disgusting that the intolerant hateful right claims not tolerating their intolerant ACTIONS is itself intolerance. What bullshit.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: seahooker on 03 27, 15, 11:55:47:PM
common davik, any State is a great place for you liberals to be a bigot!


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 27, 15, 11:57:53:PM
" forced to do business with overtly blasphemous people"

Chuck, do you reject the whole concept of being a professional? People who run a business or work have to "suck it up" and do business with people they may not like. If they can't then they have to find something else to do. Their own beliefs are their own problem, not the customer's. If that is too hard then tough. There is zero right to discriminate. Period. Grown ups accept that. Turning away people and making your problem into their problem is selfish and not acceptable and it has happened before and was disgusting and was fought and was worth fighting.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: chuck_curtis on 03 28, 15, 12:05:41:AM
Frankly, I won't suck up to a state that says I needs its permission to transact in the first place.  THAT's what's totally against my religion.  I do business my way, with who I want, when I want, or not at all.  That's what free men do.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: justincase on 03 28, 15, 12:06:38:AM

Dear Abby: I work in a seafood restaurant in Indiana. The Bible, every word of which I believe, says nothing about serving shellfish, but makes it very clear that those who eat shellfish should be stoned to death.

My question: Do I get to stay on the clock while stoning the customers I just served? Under the new law, I think it should be considered part of my job, but my boss says the state should pay me for this, since I'd really just be following state law.

Signed, Ready To Get Stonin.'






Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 28, 15, 12:12:15:AM
Apartheid is not freedom.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: justincase on 03 28, 15, 12:46:20:AM
 To put our arm around someone who is gay, someone who has an addiction, somebody who lives a different lifestyle, someone who is not what we think they should be… doing that has nothing to do with enabling them or accepting what they do as okay by us. It has nothing to do with encouraging them in their practice of what you or I might feel or believe is wrong vs right.

It has everything to do with being a good human being. A good person.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 28, 15, 01:21:26:AM
Well said. That was one of Jesus messages, ironically.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: justincase on 03 28, 15, 01:27:14:AM
Yes, and it is unfortunate that, that message gets lost in the dogma of organized religion.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: wvit1001 on 03 28, 15, 09:12:30:AM
(http://i.imgur.com/pzJ2n8a.jpg)


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: Byteryder on 03 28, 15, 09:27:07:AM
Seems reasonable. I'm on #4 and such a policy wouldn't offend me at all.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: wvit1001 on 03 28, 15, 09:32:16:AM
then you're saying that in the eyes of the church you aren't really married.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: wvit1001 on 03 28, 15, 09:35:18:AM
Matthew 19:9 (http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-19-9/) - And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: wvit1001 on 03 28, 15, 09:35:59:AM
Romans 7:3 (http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-7-3/) - So then if, while [her] husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: D2D on 03 28, 15, 12:28:43:PM
Who is harmed when a business refuses to serve a customer?

Not the customer!

Only that business!

Capitalism by its nature discourages such actions!

Government regulation is NOT needed!


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: HK91-762mm on 03 28, 15, 03:03:13:PM
Great payback for suing  bakeries and flower shops ---I hate Gays with a passion over that !!


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: darkflower on 03 28, 15, 03:10:19:PM
Right d2, apartheid never happened and never harmed anyone even if it did.  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: wvit1001 on 03 28, 15, 03:26:42:PM
HK, you hated gays before.  Are you saying that you hate them even more now?


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: D2D on 03 29, 15, 11:55:23:AM
 
Right d2, apartheid never happened and never harmed anyone even if it did.  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)
Darkflower proves he doesn't know what apartheid was!


Title: Re: Indiana - GREAT Place to be a Bigot!
Post by: takncarabizniz on 03 29, 15, 11:58:38:AM
Actually, I read that Indiana's law is similar to that of 19 others and the federal government.

I find it laughable that Seattle's Ed Murray is banning city employees from using ANY taxpayer funding to travel to Indiana on city business (LOL, as if they need to) and is demanding that an upcoming mayor's conference be moved...LOL  If he's that pissed, why not just NOT GO?

LOL