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Title: a bit of history Post by: caserio1 on 03 25, 15, 04:46:26:PM stalin figured that 20 million russian dead was a fair price to pay for eastern europe
when truman saw that he got word to the japs that they'd do better with the us alone without the land grabbing stalin the abomb was the closing argument the rest is history Title: Re: a bit of history Post by: upyrwazoo on 03 25, 15, 06:28:32:PM DO YOU EVER STOP LYING YOU IGNORANT BASTARD!
Title: Re: a bit of history Post by: caserio1 on 03 25, 15, 06:31:15:PM don't you remember?
it is discussed often we bombed japan with an a bomb Title: Re: a bit of history Post by: jst-the-fax on 03 26, 15, 12:13:26:AM And you're still crying about it to this day
Title: Re: a bit of history Post by: dondc on 03 26, 15, 02:42:28:AM Actually he wanted their help against the Japanese. (He didn't really know that much about the A bomb then, and a long and bloody war was expected.) The USSR and Japan, were neutral towards each other. The soviets even interned American air crews that flew to Russia after attacking Japanese and not be able to return to their home base.
FDR got them to release the crews, but they broke down and copies B 29s. Their main long range bomber for many years was that copy of the B 29. When Stalin saw he wasn't going to grab any more of Europe, he did attack the Japanese, and grabbed a Manchuria and some more. Russia still has given Japan back some of its traditional territory. Kuril Islands for instance. Title: Re: a bit of history Post by: dondc on 03 26, 15, 02:50:15:AM Hasn't given the Kuril
Fact is when the Japanese did surrender the Soviets kept attacking them and grabbing more. Title: Re: a bit of history Post by: caserio1 on 03 26, 15, 10:12:44:AM when truman saw the intransigence that was the stalin mo in europe he wanted no part of their
participation in the occupation of japan he actually stated that the russian dead paid for the occupation of eastern europe and the american approach of aiding a defeated enemy was anathema to him they had to pay for not fighting hitler enough that was the core of the dispute between russia and the us Title: Re: a bit of history Post by: caserio1 on 03 26, 15, 11:19:47:AM it is not very clear I see
stalin despised helping a fallen enemy there no way to stop stalin in europe short of a 3rd world war stalin claimed that 20,000,000 russians were killed fighting hitler and he wanted revenge there is no way hst was gonna get in the same pickle in japan if he could help it communication between combatants is always possible Title: Re: a bit of history Post by: caserio1 on 03 26, 15, 04:51:21:PM the attempt on hitler's life was encouraged by "wild bill" donovan............. in secret
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