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Hit the nail on the head!!!  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hattip.gif)

Some day people will look back at these days like we look back on the days of slavery.

 
Good point..

Moving image and to the point. Our DNA is possibly the highest form of life in the entire Universe. Liberal enlightenment tells us to treat it like a piece of meat.

I only disagree with his assertion that all women live in misery and suffering horribly...

Because there are too many women without conscience who use it as liberally as soap and water.

We can only hope that at some point, they will awaken to the horror of their actions, and seek forgiveness from that very angel, they somehow felt was not necessary in their lives.

I fully support a woman's right to choose...but I also pray that more women will not only ensure they do not need to choose, because they take precautions or simply abstain, but that should they end up in that situation, they will choose other means of putting that "mistake" behind them...there are so many other options...

that is all any pro choice person wants, takncare.  good god.  can right wingers spew more hateful shit?  doesn't it show how deep seated their hate of women goes to believe there are more than a tiny, tiny percentage of women who actually have no qualms about having an abortion, who use it as some form of birth control, instead of contraceptives and IUDs and whatever else they could do that DOESN'T REQUIRE PAINFUL INVASIVE SURGERY? how can any idiot, even teabaggers, believe that bullshit?  and here is the kicker....they want to force that tiny, tiny percentage INTO HAVING BABIES....wow!! imagine how they could fuck up a kid's life, if it even survives into kidhood. 

Obama voted in the Illinois Senate against SB 230, a bill designed to prevent partial-birth abortions.   He has voted against requiring minors who get out-of-state abortions to notify their parents.

Obama has consistently refused to support legislation that would define an infant who survives a late-term induced-labor abortion as a human being with the right to live.

Obama was the only Illinois senator who rose to speak against a bill that would have protected babies who survived late term labor-induced abortion.

I think it’s very hard to know what that means, when life begins. - Obama Source: 2008 Democratic Compassion Forum at Messiah College Apr 13, 2008





Of all the rocks upon which we build our lives, we are reminded today that family is the most important. And we are called to recognize and honor how critical every father is to that foundation. They are teachers and coaches. They are mentors and role models. They are examples of success and the men who constantly push us toward it.

But if we are honest with ourselves, we’ll admit that what too many fathers also are is missing--missing from too many lives and too many homes They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it.

You and I know how true this is in the African-American community. And the foundations of our community are weaker because of it. - Obama

Source: Chicago church speech, in Change We Can Believe In, p.234-5 (http://www.ontheissues.org/Change_Believe.htm) Jun 15, 2008

there is no such thing as a partial birth abortion.  another stupid fucking right wing lie that dumbfuck gullible pinheads like you believe....how about some truth to go with your force fed steaming pile of right wing bullshit, moron?

But "partial-birth" is not a medical term. It's a political one, and a highly confusing one at that, with both sides disagreeing even on how many procedures take place, at what point in pregnancy, and exactly which procedures the law actually bans.

'PARTIAL-BIRTH' TIMELINE:

1992: Dr. Martin Haskell presents a paper on a late-term abortion method known as dilation and extraction, or D&X, at a meeting of the National Abortion Federation.

1993: The National Right to Life Committee obtains Haskell's paper, publicizes it and begins a campaign to outlaw the procedure.

June 1995: Rep. Charles Canady (R-FL) introduces a House bill called the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act to prevent the D&X procedure. Sen. Bob Smith (R-NH) proposes a similar bill in the Senate.

November 1995: The Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act passes in the House of Representatives for the first time, 288-139.

December 1995: The act passes in the Senate for the first time, 54-44.

April 1996: President Clinton vetoes the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act.

May 1997: The bill is reintroduced, and approved in the Senate, 64-36.

Oct. 8, 1997: The bill is passed by the House, 295-136.

Oct. 10, 1997: President Clinton vetoes it for a second time.

June 2000: In Stenburg v. Carhart, the Supreme Court rules that the Nebraska ban against so-called "partial-birth" abortions should be overturned because the statute doesn't provide an exception for the health of the mother. The ruling invalidates similar laws in 29 out of 31 states.

July-March 2002: The House of Representatives passes a revised version of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act. The Senate passes a version, too.

Nov. 5, 2003: The Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act is signed into law by President Bush. The National Abortion Federation challenges the law in court, and blocks the enforcement of the law for its members.

June 2004: In Planned Parenthood v. Ashcroft, a federal district judge in California strikes down the law because of the "undue burden" it places on the woman and her health, and the vague language contained in it.

August 2004: In NAF v. Ashcroft, a New York district judge deems the law unconstitutional because it does not contain exceptions protecting a women's health.

July 2004: In Carhart v. Gonzales, three judges of the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously agree that "because the Act does not contain a health exception, it is unconstitutional."

September 2004: In Carhart v. Ashcroft, U.S. District Judge Richard Kopf of Nebraska concludes that, "in the absence of an exception for the health of a woman, banning the procedure constitutes a significant health hazard to women."

So to better understand the facts behind the controversy, we asked NPR health correspondent Julie Rovner to explain the origins of both the name and the procedure.

Where does the term "partial-birth" abortion come from?

The term was first coined by the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) in 1995 to describe a recently introduced medical procedure to remove fetuses from the womb. Alternately known as "dilation and extraction," or D&X, and "intact D&E," it involves removing the fetus intact by dilating a pregnant woman's cervix, then pulling the entire body out through the birth canal.

After a physician presented a paper at a conference of the National Abortion Federation describing the new procedure, the NRLC commissioned drawings to illustrate it and published them in booklet form, as well as placing them as paid advertisements in newspapers to build public opposition. In an interview with The New Republic magazine in 1996, the NRLC's Douglas Johnson explained that the term was thought up in hopes that "as the public learns what a 'partial-birth abortion' is, they might also learn something about other abortion methods, and that this would foster a growing opposition to abortion."

In 1995, Rep. Charles Canady (R-FL) included the term as part of a bill he proposed that would make it a federal crime to perform a "partial-birth" abortion. (That year, the Ohio state legislature also passed the first state ban, but it was struck down by a federal district court; the Supreme Court later refused to hear an appeal.)

If this procedure is so controversial, then why was it developed in the first place?

The further along a pregnancy is, the more complicated — and the more controversial — the procedures are for aborting it. Abortions performed after the 20th week of pregnancy typically require that the fetus be dismembered inside the womb so it can be removed without damaging the pregnant woman's cervix. Some gynecologists consider such methods, known as "dilation and evacuation," less than ideal because they can involve substantial blood loss and may increase the risk of lacerating the cervix, potentially undermining the woman's ability to bear children in the future.

How often is the D&X procedure performed?

According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute about 15,000 abortions were performed in the year 2000 on women 20 weeks or more along in their pregnancies; the vast majority were between the 20th and 24th week. Of those, only about 2,200 D&X abortions were performed, or about 0.2 percent of the 1.3 million abortions believed to be performed that year.

And contrary to the claims of some abortion opponents, most such abortions do not take place in the third trimester of pregnancy, or after fetal "viability." Indeed, when some members of Congress tried to amend the bill to ban only those procedures that take place after viability, abortion opponents complained that would leave most of the procedures legal.

Under what health circumstances are D&X abortions performed?

There is currently no statistical information available on why "dilation and extraction" abortions are performed.

In a widely-publicized interview with The New York Times in 1997, Ron Fitzsimmons, executive director of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers, estimated that in the majority of cases, the procedure is performed on a healthy mother and healthy fetus that is 20 weeks or more along in development.

Yet the procedure is also performed in cases where the woman's health is at risk, or when the fetus shows signs of serious abnormalities, some of which don't become apparent until late in pregnancy.

Take, for example, cases in which the fetus develops hydrocephalus (commonly known as water on the brain). Often undetectable until well into the second three months of pregnancy, the condition causes enlargement of the skull up to two-and-a-half times its normal size. It not only results in severe brain damage to the fetus, it can also create severe health risks to the mother if she tries to deliver it vaginally.

Some doctors say D&X abortion is a preferable method for ending such pregnancies without damaging the woman's cervix.

Indeed, many abortion opponents believe even severely deformed fetuses should be delivered regardless of their prospects for a healthy life.

"We don't believe that sick babies — babies with disabilities — should be pulled out by the legs and struck through the head," Right to Life's Johnson told The New Republic. "We believe they should live out their life — whether it's a few minutes or six hours."

Has the Supreme Court weighed in on this issue before?

Yes. In the year 2000, the court struck down a Nebraska law banning any abortion procedure that "partially evacuates fetal material through the cervix into the birth canal."

By a 5-4 ruling, the majority in Stenberg v. Carhart said Nebraska's ban was unconstitutionally vague and lacked a needed exception allowing the procedure to be used to protect the health of the pregnant mother.

http://www.npr.org/2006/02/21/5168163/partial-birth-abortion-separating-fact-from-spin

Obama voted in the Illinois Senate against SB 230, a bill designed to prevent partial-birth abortions.   He has voted against requiring minors who get out-of-state abortions to notify their parents.

Obama has consistently refused to support legislation that would define an infant who survives a late-term induced-labor abortion as a human being with the right to live.

Obama was the only Illinois senator who rose to speak against a bill that would have protected babies who survived late term labor-induced abortion.

I think it’s very hard to know what that means, when life begins. - Obama Source: 2008 Democratic Compassion Forum at Messiah College Apr 13, 2008




http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/partial+birth+abortion


Partial
 
birth
 
abortion,
 
medically
 
known
 as
intact
 
dilation
 
and
 
extraction
 
(IDX),
 is a
method
 of
late-term
 
abortion
 
that
 
ends
 a
pregnancy
 
and
 
results
 in
the
 
death
 
and
 
intact
 
removal
 of a
fetus
 
from
 
the
 
uterus.
 In
the
 
United
 
States,
 as of
late
 
2008
 
the
 
procedure
 
was
 
illegal.





http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/partial+birth+abortion (http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/partial+birth+abortion)

IDX first involves administration of medications to cause the cervix to dilate. Dilation usually occurs over the course of several days. Next, the physician rotates the fetus to a footling breech position. The body of the fetus is then drawn out of the uterus feet first, until only the head remains inside the uterus. The physician then uses an instrument to puncture the base of the skull, which collapses the fetal head. Typically, the contents of the fetal head are then partially suctioned out, which results in the death of the fetus and reduces the size of the fetal head enough to allow it to pass through the cervix. The dead but otherwise intact fetus is then removed from the woman's body.


http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/partial+birth+abortion (http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/partial+birth+abortion)

Obama voted in the Illinois Senate against SB 230, a bill designed to prevent partial-birth abortions.   He has voted against requiring minors who get out-of-state abortions to notify their parents.

Obama has consistently refused to support legislation that would define an infant who survives a late-term induced-labor abortion as a human being with the right to live.