and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation, to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." -
John Jay: Co-Author of the Federalist Papers; First Chief-Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court
 
http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?topic=160069.0 (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?topic=160069.0)
 
 
 
Obama would like to inform you Ho Chi Minh was totally inspired by Thomas Jefferson (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/07/26/obama-would-like-to-inform-you-ho-chi-minh-was-totally-inspired-by-thomas-jefferson/)
 
 
The sociopath strikes again...
 
 
Under the British common law, the term sodomy was used to identify same-sex relations and was a capital crime. Understand that the founders referenced Sir William Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws of England extensively. He was a British attorney, jurist, law professor, author, and political philosopher.

Blackstone’s commentaries were the premiere legal source used by the Founding Fathers in America. So this should carry some weight with those who claim they know what the Founding Fathers knew and wanted concerning the issue of homosexuality, but I’m guessing they will dismiss it.
 
Read more:

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/03/what-the-founders-believed-about-homosexuality/ (http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/03/what-the-founders-believed-about-homosexuality/)


 
What the founders said about homosexuality below

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7k623_JRxk0AfQZXNyoA?p=founding%20fathers%20and%20homosexuals&fr2=sb-top&fr=slv8-tyc9&rd=pref (http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7k623_JRxk0AfQZXNyoA?p=founding%20fathers%20and%20homosexuals&fr2=sb-top&fr=slv8-tyc9&rd=pref)
 
 

actually jefferson got most of his ideas on governing from theodore mazzei

but

don't let facts get in the way of your rant

What has TJ's ideas on governing have to do with homo perverts, your favorite group?



You have to have a relevant response here first or risk being a dumbfuck'

your favorite thing to be here! (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/laugh.gif)

jefferson wisely refused to listen to crazy christians

like all sane people

How long have you been confusing your dreams with reality

or

can you tell the difference being a dumbfuck liar and all round POS asshole?

The political philosophy of the Declaration was not new; its ideals of individual liberty had already been expressed by John Locke and the Continental philosophers.

What Jefferson did was to summarize this philosophy in "self-evident truths".
 
 The ideas of liberty he promoted continue to form the basis of the American cultural heritage today.
 
Jefferson expressed a sophisticated, radical vision of liberty with awesome grace and eloquence. He affirmed that all people are entitled to liberty, regardless what laws might say. If laws don’t protect liberty, he declared, then the laws are illegitimate, and people should rebel. While Jefferson didn’t originate this idea, he put it in a way that set afire the imagination of people around the world. Moreover, he articulated a doctrine for strictly limiting the power of government, the most dangerous threat to liberty everywhere.
 
Although Jefferson enjoyed a distinguished public career, he had an entirely different idea: that what counted most was the way individuals conducted their private lives, their contribution to civil society rather than politics.
 
Jefferson’s intellectual legacy has been hotly contested. For four decades after he left the White House, his ideas dominated U.S. government policy, and he was revered as the “Sage of Monticello.”  Then the Civil War changed everything. Some 620,000 people died amidst that struggle to preserve the Union, turning public opinion against Jefferson who had defended the right of secession and independence. He fell even further out of favor during the “Progressive Era” when reformers imagined every problem could be fixed by giving the federal government more power.
 
“I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” 
 
Since about 1960, Jefferson has again come under attack.  When historians finish dumping on Jefferson, they still won’t have cleared the way for Karl Marx or whomever they admire. Jefferson’s accomplishments and philosophy of liberty must be recognized for their monumental importance.
 
Jefferson was tutored by Anglican ministers in Latin, Greek, science and natural history. For two years, he attended William and Mary, America’s second-oldest college (after Harvard), located in Williamsburg. Then he began studying English common law. He wrote summaries of English legal classics, such the 17th century scholar Edward Coke’s Institutes of the Laws of England. Jefferson began practicing law in 1767, and he seemed to be doing well, because each year he handled more cases. He based his briefs on natural law as well as written law. For example, in a 1770 case, he declared that “under the law of nature, all men are born free, every one comes into the world with a right to his own person, which includes the liberty of moving and using it at his own will.”
 
In 1774, Jefferson wrote his first published work, a 23-page pamphlet called A Summary View of the Rights of British America. It was a legal brief which boldly declared that Parliament didn’t have the right to rule the colonies. The work established Jefferson as a man who had a way with words. He asked, “Shall these [colonial] governments be dissolved, their property annihilated, and their people reduced to a state of nature, at the imperious breath of a body of men whom they never saw, in whom they never confided, and over whom they have no powers of punishment or removal, let their crimes against the American public be ever so great?”
 
 
Jefferson was a radical libertarian for his day.
 
 

sorry

cas is not explaining it to you

 
No need for you to explain.  It already has been...
 
Jefferson was a radical libertarian for his day.

Jefferson’s intellectual legacy has been hotly contested. For four decades after he left the White House, his ideas dominated U.S. government policy, and he was revered as the “Sage of Monticello.”  Then the Civil War changed everything. Some 620,000 people died amidst that struggle to preserve the Union, turning public opinion against Jefferson who had defended the right of secession and independence. He fell even further out of favor during the “Progressive Era” when reformers imagined every problem could be fixed by giving the federal government more power.

Since about 1960, Jefferson has again come under attack.  When historians finish dumping on Jefferson, they still won’t have cleared the way for Karl Marx or whomever they admire. Jefferson’s accomplishments and philosophy of liberty must be recognized for their monumental importance.

then why post such wordy drivel ?

It is always good to have a bit of historical political intelligence for a change on this board... (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)

opinion is hardly intelligence

You miss the facts and spout off about your unintelligence when you post opinion, repeatedly.   Why would anyone care, Cas?   Stop projecting your ignorance on others.   It helps no one...  (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/rolleyes.gif)

no

what I don't miss is the idiotic drivel that endlessly states the obvious

jefferson was a founding father, so fucking what?

You do not care.  So fucking what?   (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/107w9oy.gif)

then post something useful or intelligent that's "so fucking what?"

 
You already lost this one, cassie...  Try again...

wtf does that mean?

It is over your head...   (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/cry.gif)

nothing more idiotic than posting something that can't be understood ?

it's really a form of mental masterbation

and best kept to onesself

Everyone got it but you.

You were told no one here will dumb down a post just for you, dumbfuck! (http://www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/laugh.gif)