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Title: Why You Never Saw The CIA’s Interrogation Tapes -
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 20, 15, 05:35:32:PM
“I was told, if those videotapes had ever been seen, the reaction around the world would not have been survivable."


When graphic photographs of American soldiers abusing detainees at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq surfaced in 2004, they sparked international outrage — and prompted new scrutiny of how the U.S. treats its prisoners.

Even though Abu Ghraib itself wasn’t a CIA-run facility, the agency was worried about the scandal’s ramifications.

That’s because the CIA was in possession of something that was potentially more explosive than the detainee abuse photos: hundreds of hours of videotaped “enhanced interrogations” of two Al Qaeda suspects in CIA detention, that included the use of techniques widely described as torture.

As FRONTLINE details in tonight’s new documentary, Secrets, Politics and Torture, those tapes would never see the light of day. Their destruction was ordered by Jose Rodriguez, then the CIA’s top operations officer.

“I was told, if those videotapes had ever been seen, the reaction around the world would not have been survivable,” Jane Mayer of The New Yorker tells FRONTLINE.
Go inside the CIA’s decision to destroy the tapes — and learn why CIA attorney John Rizzo was so surprised by that choice — in this advance excerpt from tonight’s new FRONTLINE film:

The destruction of the tapes would eventually be reported by The New York Times – enraging the Senate Intelligence Committee, and helping to spark their decision to embark on an independent investigation of the CIA’s covert interrogation program.

As Secrets, Politics and Torture explores, Senate investigators would eventually determine that one of the suspects in the tapes, Abu Zubaydah, “was not a senior member” of Al Qaeda. The second man in the tapes, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, “did not provide any additional threat information during, or after these interrogations,” according to Senate investigators.

Rodriguez was never prosecuted. As FRONTLINE reports in tonight’s documentary, in 2006, President George W. Bush signed legislation granting immunity to anyone at the CIA who had worked on the program.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/government-elections-politics/secrets-politics-and-torture/why-you-never-saw-the-cias-interrogation-tapes/


Title: Re: Why You Never Saw The CIA’s Interrogation Tapes -
Post by: DaBoz on 05 20, 15, 05:49:26:PM
The same reason we have not seen Hillary Server content.


Title: Re: Why You Never Saw The CIA’s Interrogation Tapes -
Post by: Byteryder on 05 20, 15, 05:51:19:PM
Hhahahahahahahahhaha


Title: Re: Why You Never Saw The CIA’s Interrogation Tapes -
Post by: dont-blameme on 05 20, 15, 05:52:31:PM
Maybe the CIA could get the information from hilderbeast, with a little encouragement she may give it all up!


Title: Re: Why You Never Saw The CIA’s Interrogation Tapes -
Post by: dont-blameme on 05 20, 15, 05:55:04:PM
I for one don't care what type of encouragement the CIA used to get the information that was needed as long as it saved American lives.


Title: Re: Why You Never Saw The CIA’s Interrogation Tapes -
Post by: caserio1 on 05 20, 15, 06:04:08:PM
it cost more lives not saved

that's how we get isis


Title: Re: Why You Never Saw The CIA’s Interrogation Tapes -
Post by: dont-blameme on 05 20, 15, 06:06:07:PM
Sure it was cas sure it was! Stupidity serves you well never give it up!


Title: Re: Why You Never Saw The CIA’s Interrogation Tapes -
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 20, 15, 06:07:23:PM
what information do you think we got from torture?  even the CIA admits they didn't get any usable information.


Title: Re: Why You Never Saw The CIA’s Interrogation Tapes -
Post by: wvit1001 on 05 20, 15, 06:12:09:PM
The committee reviewed 20 of the most frequent and prominent examples of purported counterterrorism “successes” that the CIA has attributed to the use of its enhanced interrogation techniques. Each of those examples was found to be wrong in fundamental respects. In some cases, there was no relationship between the claimed counterterrorism “success” and any information provided by a CIA detainee during or after the use of the CIA’s enhanced interrogation techniques. In the remaining cases, the CIA inaccurately represented that unique information was acquired from a CIA detainee as a result of the CIA’s enhanced interrogation techniques, when in fact the information was either (a) acquired from the CIA detainee prior to the use of the CIA’s enhanced interrogation techniques or (b) corroborative of information already available to the intelligence community from sources other than the CIA detainee, and therefore not unique or “otherwise unavailable,” which was the standard for effectiveness the CIA presented to the Department of Justice and policymakers.


Title: Re: Why You Never Saw The CIA’s Interrogation Tapes -
Post by: sweetwater5s9 on 05 20, 15, 06:19:26:PM
They interrogated enemy prisoners during war.  No, our techniques should not be released to the public as most are psychological and will be used by the enemy to thwart their effectiveness and harsher measures will be needed.  KSM and two others were waterboarded.  So what?   We do the same technique with tens of thousands of U.S. troops during SERE...  Get over it...   The interrogations killed OBL and hundreds of other enemy combatants under him while saving thousands of lives which is unmentioned in the article.   I am on the side of our troops and innocent civilians.  Some of you are not.   Your choice.


Any complaints about Obama still using extraordinary renditions developed during the Clinton years for "torture"?


Title: Re: Why You Never Saw The CIA’s Interrogation Tapes -
Post by: Jim on 05 20, 15, 06:40:37:PM
“I was told, if those videotapes had ever been seen, the reaction around the world would not have been survivable."
 
Rumors and hearsay can do lots of damage. So, first question the author of this revelation and his/her political motivations.